For anybody who's ever been out of work, and knows the stress and the pressure of having to interview for a job, this is one of the greatest scenes of all time.
I can completely sympathize with that. Earlier this year, I was laid off from a job that I was making good money doing, and at a bad time too, no less. I wasn’t in a custody battle but I couldn’t live off unemployment benefits. Luckily, I was able to land back on my feet within 3 weeks. And just like Mr. Kramer, my salary was reduced but I didn’t care because I needed a job.
Matt Prado My problem is last year my Father passed away so that meant I had to move away from my hometown for the first time in my life to live with family elsewhere in the world so that meant I had to quit work as well as leaving friends & family behind! Then I am diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome which means I am a highly functioning autistic adult! This year has started out really bad for me. I just want to find a job now some where some place.
@Rob Jaimes It’s a brilliant scene. He’s in command of his talent. The dialogue when he says “No this is a one-day offer.” He knows his worth. It’s a two way street. They need each other. There’s a great book called How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie published in the 1930s & talks about this.
Jaz pa sem vedel, da ga bosta sprejela ! Nižji položaj, za nižjo plačo, sprejel je oba pogoja. Boljšega kandidata ne bi dobila ! Ted pa je malo dvomil, a zaman !
"Hello Darkness, my old friend......I've come to talk to you again. Because a vision softly creeping, Left its seeds while I was sleeping, And the vision that was planted in my brain, Still remains, Within the sound of silence."
I’ve been in his shoes there. Holiday season and everyone is having a great time. As I sat and worried as much as any man could worry and hope for a chance to do right!
I watched this movie a few months ago, during a time filled with uncertainty. I was about to lose my job. I didn't know what the future had in store for me. I was terrified at the idea of being unemployed. I had already experienced unemployment in my life, and I was afraid to go back to that dark place again. Four days after I quit my former job, I got the opportunity to attend an interview for a job position I had applied for. This was exactly the opportunity I was looking for. I went to this interview with the same determination as Ted, having promised myself that I would get the job no matter what. I had downloaded the audio clip of this scene into my phone. While on my way going to the interview, I kept listening to it, again and again. This scene served as my inspiration. I attended the interview, gave it my best shot, tried to appear as confident as Dustin Hoffman. And two days later, i got the job. This scene will always be special to me because it inspired me beyond words. At a time when I was lost, it gave me the courage to keep hoping. It played a major part in the fact that I finally got the job I've been looking for.
For those who haven’t seen the full movie or don’t remember the context, it wasn’t just the desperation of being out of work, which is already portrayed well here. He had an impending custody hearing scheduled for the first week of January and would’ve been completely done for going into that without employment. The $4800 less in salary was absolutely meaningless compared to the possibility of losing his son. He guaranteed his lawyer a job in 24 hours, and he delivered.
Amen! Ya Gotta Do What Ya Gotta Do to get paid. Dustin Hoffman's Facial Expressions are brilliant. Although what he did Kissing The Lady would be "bad" by today's standards when you have good fortune you are so happy you overlook certain things. These guys should be impressed that Ted doesn't mind the Salary. Now more than ever folks are taking lower Salaries. It's like an Accountant being demoted to being a Bookkeeper not that there's anything wrong with that but it happens.
@@rockyracoon3233 Yes. I remember watching it in The Cinema when I was 13. I was so worried for him, yet things worked out. By today's standards being so assertive may not have worked, yet desperate times mean desperate measures. I remember watching "She's Having A Baby" and Kevin Bacon's Character Jefferson aka "Jake" went through the Interview from "H@ll!". They knew how much he wanted the Job but they dangled it in front of him.
@@laminage I disagree. Being assertive even today does get you the job. Employers like go getters. They want someone who’s going to be serious about the job.
How badass is that man?! He walked into a last-minute interview two days before Christmas with the greatest poker face and balls of steel all whilst being under the highest level of pressure, because he just couldn't leave that office with a rejection, since that would cost him the custody of his son. You see non of the actual desperation in his face or body movement. Despite everything that's at stake here and with a ticking clock, Kramer remains perfectly composed, calm, and professional and just gets it done! - I probably would've shown all my despair with every phrase and gesture...if not just told them about the whole custody battle situation! - I don't even have kids yet, but this is so inspirational!
I think it's a matter of luck: the emotions are usually hard to control for anybody, and sometimes being backed into a corner just gets the adrenaline flowing, pepping one up. In real life, 8 out of ten times the guy would flinch, giving some sign of desperation that would turn them, off. On the other hand, he caught them in a holiday celebration which might have made them generous: who wouldn't enjoy the holiday more giving a guy a job, versus sending him home in despair? A lot of interesting variables and factors here.
Persistence pays off. Great scene. There is nothing more determined than a parent of a child when it comes to providing for them. A good parent that is.
Great way to work a job interview. Those guys are big shot executives and should be able to make a decision without a lot of shilly-shally. Hoffman was confident, knew what he had to offer and put the ball in their court.
Today’s woman would sue the company the office decorators Santa 🎅 and the elves. Be on CNN MSNBC Poor Ol’Dustin would have to run for office as a liberal politician to rid the ridicule
If you saw the movie then you know he lost his really great but highly demanding job because he also had to parent and they needed him almost 24/7. He was told by his attorney that he has to have a job by Xmas or he will definitely not get custody of Billy. So, for Billy and himself he had to fight hard for this new job even if a step down. I love how determined he is here as well. When we are desperate we do what we must. 🙂
Especially todays world with this entry requirement nonsense. They say “we’re hiring” but you apply there and you hear nothing. As I bartender I asserted to the same Irish pub over and over and don’t stop till I get the job.
what such a boldness for dealing with people you meet at the first time , specially at an interview , but this scene describes a lot of his personal qualities .
Love his eyes❤😻his look great great actor always a gentleman to every body wether they're rich or not famous or not he don't care he's still indigenous and that's why I appreciate him so much 🎀
This is my favourite sequence of this amazing film. Personally I would never tell a prospective boss that my application was a "one day only" offer, because I'd get laughed out of the office, but Ted's determination is amazing. This is great filmmaking.
Mark Brown: I agree that the 'one day only' thing normally backfires. But because Ted was overqualified and was willing to take a pay cut, they figured out that it was a win-win situation.
It's like Patrick Mahomes needing to move to New York City right away tombe with his girlfriend who needs "care". He walks into the JETS or GIANTS front office and says I'll be your backup-QB and take $20 million less a season. This is a "one-day offer". He isnt getting laughed out and the GM will wonder why this talent has landed in their lap on the cheap.
@@hehhehhuhhuh7014 Until he spills raw french toast on his projects trying to make breakfast and do his work at the same time. When they call his previous employer, he hints to them on the phone that Kramer is good for one thing and one thing only: lightening your workload by losing clients.
He knew he had an edge with his experience and reputation, and they would have been fools to turn the man down, particularly with that kind of salary cut.
I genuinely feel that this is one of the most inspirational sequences in all of cinema for anyone in a difficult and seemingly helpless situation. In the context of the film, knowing that failure will almost certainly mean losing his son, Ted's under huge pressure, with this contrasted by the fun and joy of the party at the office. But throughout he remains determined, clear on what he wants and firm whilst staying polite. He won't let any obstacle stand in his way and the payoff is the relief and happiness in his face at 4:08 when he gets what he needs.
Yeah its crap when you seem to tick all the boxes so whats to think about? Im tempted myself to try this......wont know until im in the heat of the interview and unlike Ted in this movie I was laid off not fired 😂
I love this scene..makes me cry because we have to put others besides our selves..he has to do this for his child..humility n the cruelness of this world will make u a man!!
"Mr Kramer, I'm not sure we have anything here that is suitable for you.." "Look, I'm desperate - I'll take a $200 salary with unpaid overtime." "Can you start tomorrow ?"
"I'll pay you to let me work here so I can say I have a job at the custody hearing. By the way, try on my new Bulova, it would look nice on you." ... "You're hired."
I originally saw this at the movie theater when I was about 10 years old and through the years this was always one of my favorite parts of the movie but it's definitely now my favorite because I can completely identify with what he's going through, and that extreme relief when you get a really good job after you went through so much hell
In 2022, he’d get fired one minute after getting hired for kissing that lady without her consent which is technically sexual assault. If she decides to call the cops he might even get arrested. Mrs. Kramer would use that against him in court and he’d lose the kid permanently. It’d be an entirely different movie 😆
It can happen with dedication - I was temporarily out of work, and applied everywhere. Within two weeks, .I was given an interview, offered the job and I started the very next morning.
Quite recently I was given the bad news my Sainsbury's store was closing and I was worried on being jobless. The managers put up vacancies for new roles and I seen one & applied. I watched and studied this scene saying to myself I was getting the job and I went in for my interview feeling confident and determined. And a few days later I got the job! This scene was the inspiration for my success. If anyone needs motivation this scene is it.
It's quite possible that they created the track specifically for the movie. Might have been cheaper to do it that way than pay the rights for an existing song.
I think your right and this is probably the case. I have been trying to find this song (on and off) for the alt 7 years - by every now and then doing a search on some of the lyrics - nothing ever comes up ... I suspect the producer had a friend who had a fiend who agreed to bash out a tune for them for the movie. i know to get a copy righted song into a movie used in a song takes one of two things (or both) a hell of a lot of money or you know some one in the music business who will do you a favor ...
In 2022-23 it kind of is easy. If you have the qualifications and your industry is understaffed, you can pick and choose with a good number of years under your belt. I received many offers within 24-hours or when the interview wrapped up. It's a good feeling.
For anyone with Dustin Hoffman's swagger and eloquence, they would be....especially in the late 70's when they based hiring decisions more on who was more qualified for the job and less on filling minority employment quotas.
Questa è la scena piu' potente di questo splendido film. Scritto benissimo. Ed è anche una delle scene che terro' sempre con me. IMMENSO DUSTIN HOFFMAN
In real life they'd say the guy must be an idiot to leave his briefcase, and retract the job offer, and just chuck the briefcase with a "thanks, but no thanks' not on it out the window so it lands on his head. By the way, the guy who hires him only works there part time. In "3 days of the Condor" you see him working for the CIA operating a switchboard.
It's a catchy disco song - but I suspect that it was a song just written for the movie (perhaps to avoid issues around negotiating copyright policies) as the song, by any title description does not appear in the end credits of the movie... I have the dvd and have looked at the end credits carefully - it's not there ..
Smoking and drinking in a workplace setting with no health police demanding to shut everything down. Being able to kiss a pretty woman you don't know without anyone freaking out. The 70s were the last truly great time to be alive.
@@m.e.d.7997 , Definitely, he could not have gotten away with that nowadays as that would be considered sexual harassment. I wondered what he might have been thinking. Then again, he did this at a party but still, the woman looked like she did not know him at all.
@@williamlandolfi7858 Workplace flirtations are even obsolete now. Mena re afraid to say much to a woman unrelated to work business. The same goes for women. I think some of it went too far for sure.
This scene is so fantastic - life forces Ted's hand into desperately begging for a position for which he is well overqualified, but he puts his best foot forward, knocks it out of the park, and puts his foot down when he has to.
@1:03 - Wow ! Now that was fast ! The employment clerk called the company to book an appointment for Kramer, and he arrived before the receptionist had even put the phone down !
Right, like if i think your cute Christopher and i got a new job why cant I go up to you and kiss you passionalty for a second, and why should you feel weird about that? I hate liberals
@@luiscuesta0719 This has nothing to do with being Liberal or Conservative politically. Today, kissing a complete stranger at a company party would be definitely be considered sexual harassment. As for Ted Kramer (Dustin Hoffman), I don't know what he was thinking except he was thrilled he landed a job and he was surrounded by people who were having a company party. I am not saying that action was right but we have to remember that this scene took place in the late 1970's (more than 40 years ago). I don't think people were as concerned about sexual harassment as they are today.
@@williamlandolfi7858 I was being sarcastic about that last part, you know how super conservatives think anything that makes sense to not be an asshole is a liberal agenda, and im not saying we should cancel the actor or anything. But it definitely should not be glorified or wished that it happened today, thats creepy.
@@williamlandolfi7858 (as far as intended film composition, the message reads: m only missing a wife-double to feel complete nd too join these festivities)
Just watched this on Amazon Video. Great film. Anyone know what the "ride along with me, set me free" song playing in the last 30 seconds at the Christmas party is? Shazam, Google et al have all let me down.
I remember watching this movie for the first time in my early 20s and thinking about the Streep character, 'what a bitch, running out on her husband and kid like that.' I watched it again about seven years later and I got it and understood why she left. She'd become completely immersed in her husband's identity. She was no longer Joanna Kramer, she was Ted Kramer's wife and Billy Kramer's mother. She had to re - establish her individuality.
I didn't have to do it like this but the way he gets a job so fast reminds me of myself. Company i was working for went bankrupt the end of November. The same day i was told my boss gave me details of someone who could help me. I had a job the next day. It ended up being a shit job so i applied for another, they called me the next day i had an interview the next and was hired the same day.
Damn.. even if those disco songs were just meant as 'throwaway background party songs' just for the movie, they're actually JAMS! (unintentionally?) lol Would still love to know if they're actually real songs or just 30 sec. snippets made for the movie (to avoid copyright etc..) From the comments on here, seems they're nowhere to be found :/
Even back then, he would need written proof of the job offer to hold up in court, which HR wouldn't be able to draft for him until after the holidays anyway (since they likely all have already stopped working).
In 2022 after a successful 40 year career with thus company, the coworker he kissed at the end of the scene files a sexual harassment complaint and he gets fired.
he doesn't get fired, because his sharp lawyer is able to prove that the girl set the whole thing up to get her own lawsuit against the company, by getting Kramer's wife to leave him so he would get fired and apply for this job and kiss her, all of it an elaborate scheme to launch her own sexual harrassment case.
Look for work? He’s a professional, not a construction worker or other tradesman! But kudos to him! He didn’t feel sorry for himself after getting fired and took a new job within a week. Maybe for less pay, but he did it.
This great film could never be made now. Firstly, it has a man who is a better parent than a woman and, secondly, this scene depicts men and women flirting together in an atmosphere of fun and anticipation, without the assumption that men are somehow aggressors. This is the kind of film to make feminists spit.
Let the feminists spit! I worked in the good old days of the big advertising agency. Guys were guys and the gals were gals. We all clawed our way to the top. The feminists do themselves a great disservice.
@@dianadugina883 have you seen the mad men series also? I agree with you. At countrywide home loans from 2002 to 2007, they hired a lot of young people and the housing or mortgage business was booming. there was no drug tests required and more than half the people were probably high while working. a lot were also temporary workers, and if they needed permanent workers, they just hired them through the employment agencies. A lot of this stuff depicted in this party happened, although inappropriate. I'm not sure what happened at the holiday parties, etc, because I didn't go to them, but even from 2002-2007 I remember it being loose, with alcohol and dancing provided, although probably not as blatant as what is depicted here, like directly kissing a female you just saw. If most people listen to music and party, and not listen to news stories, they wouldn't know about harassment issues or sexual harassment, etc. This was even during the second iraq war but your average young person still didn't care back then. They even had female and male soldiers who returned from iraq I think, but nobody seemed to care. Unlike now perhaps where more young people are paying attention to political issues. There was no required courses on how to act, at countrywide home loans from what I recall, other than a worded warning perhaps in whatever you signed, before you got hired. I'm sure some were aware of the issues, but there were still a lot of wild after hour parties, and everyone just accepting what was going on, without any critical thought about it. Lots of inappropriate contact, kissing, comments, and stories inside this large three floor building. It was just what was going on for hundreds of years basically. It was better to be a forceful woman who could defend herself, if you needed to, and this was three decades after this movie, more or less etc. Of course you had your sensitive female who would report you for saying something nice, but that was usually rare. That was one reason I didn't say much while working there, because of a past previous experience. I just was more careful, when I needed to be, after that. I just made sure I was talking to a woman who seemed more relaxed and not strict. Although I got in trouble for complaining about what I saw was laziness by some workers, which was an unusual thing for me to be put on probation for. Why would I get in trouble for that? Anyway, I agree with you.
EXEC : "Mr Kamer, could we talk privately for a moment ? " KRAMER : "Certainly. (To manager) Ahm, would you excuse us please ?" EXEC : "No, I meant could me and HIM talk privately.."
This is kind of unrealistic. Employers don't like to be talked to like that by employees, let alone a potential employee, and would probably reject him on the spot, in real life.
I disagree. He was assertive but polite. Determined. Honest. An employer is a cut throat field needs guys like this on the team. That is how people got things done.
Exactly. Being assertive but respectful is an art. He made some great points, he knows he’d be an asset because he’s overqualified and he’s willing to take a cut in pay, he’s sacrificing a lot. All they had to do was let him know that day, small price to pay if you ask me.
Also to think that in this day and age, Interviews are so different. They need to do a background check, sometimes a credit check, and they are more strict when it comes to references. Also it reminds me of Thirtysomething when Michael Steadman and Elliot Weston lost their Ad Agency and Michael goes on an Interview with a Company that looks like "Walmart" in it's early days. It's far below him but he knows that Beggars Can't Be Choosers. Elliot finds out and he is furious but Michael tells him, he's Two Months behind on his Mortgage, his Wife Hope isn't working and they have a New Baby coming which is a miracle since they suffered a miscarriage. Co-Incidentally in England there was a Little Girl named Cheryl Ann Tweedy who used to Model for a Store similar to Walmart with Flyers who became a Music Superstar as part of Girls Aloud.
Some grand φethos, aligned with the synchronous GRAND childbearing and childrearing. Come to think of it, we modern moms sure make better companions/partners guardians/parents to our φPETS.
leafyutube: I'm not sure that his pushiness would have worked in 2021. And BTW he certainly would have gotten thrown out on his a** for kissing that woman on the mouth.
For anybody who's ever been out of work, and knows the stress and the pressure of having to interview for a job, this is one of the greatest scenes of all time.
ralphus44 know it from my dad
I can completely sympathize with that. Earlier this year, I was laid off from a job that I was making good money doing, and at a bad time too, no less. I wasn’t in a custody battle but I couldn’t live off unemployment benefits.
Luckily, I was able to land back on my feet within 3 weeks. And just like Mr. Kramer, my salary was reduced but I didn’t care because I needed a job.
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Matt Prado My problem is last year my Father passed away so that meant I had to move away from my hometown for the first time in my life to live with family elsewhere in the world so that meant I had to quit work as well as leaving friends & family behind! Then I am diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome which means I am a highly functioning autistic adult! This year has started out really bad for me. I just want to find a job now some where some place.
I know that feeling. I should know, I’m in between jobs myself.
The good old days, searching newspaper classifieds. Love this sequence and his dogged determination.
Not so sure about the "good old days" at least as far as looking for jobs. It thankfully requires much less leg work now.
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I was looking at newspaper classifieds into the 2010s or weekly job circulars.
They still exist.
The scene when his sitting outside the office while everyone is celebrating is so painful.
Is genius!
@Rob Jaimes It’s a brilliant scene. He’s in command of his talent. The dialogue when he says “No this is a one-day offer.” He knows his worth. It’s a two way street. They need each other. There’s a great book called How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie published in the 1930s & talks about this.
Jaz pa sem vedel, da ga bosta sprejela ! Nižji položaj, za nižjo plačo, sprejel je oba pogoja. Boljšega kandidata ne bi dobila ! Ted pa je malo dvomil, a zaman !
"Hello Darkness, my old friend......I've come to talk to you again.
Because a vision softly creeping,
Left its seeds while I was sleeping,
And the vision that was planted in my brain,
Still remains,
Within the sound of silence."
I’ve been in his shoes there. Holiday season and everyone is having a great time. As I sat and worried as much as any man could worry and hope for a chance to do right!
I watched this movie a few months ago, during a time filled with uncertainty.
I was about to lose my job. I didn't know what the future had in store for me. I was terrified at the idea of being unemployed. I had already experienced unemployment in my life, and I was afraid to go back to that dark place again.
Four days after I quit my former job, I got the opportunity to attend an interview for a job position I had applied for. This was exactly the opportunity I was looking for.
I went to this interview with the same determination as Ted, having promised myself that I would get the job no matter what.
I had downloaded the audio clip of this scene into my phone. While on my way going to the interview, I kept listening to it, again and again.
This scene served as my inspiration.
I attended the interview, gave it my best shot, tried to appear as confident as Dustin Hoffman.
And two days later, i got the job.
This scene will always be special to me because it inspired me beyond words.
At a time when I was lost, it gave me the courage to keep hoping. It played a major part in the fact that I finally got the job I've been looking for.
Bullshit.
@Diana Thomas. You're awesome!♡
@@rockyracoon3233 Thank you!
@@dianathomas2467 . You are most welcome! May I also say that I revere strong Women.:)
Diane- Did you kiss some Random Guy or maybe some random girl after you were told you got the Job?
For those who haven’t seen the full movie or don’t remember the context, it wasn’t just the desperation of being out of work, which is already portrayed well here. He had an impending custody hearing scheduled for the first week of January and would’ve been completely done for going into that without employment. The $4800 less in salary was absolutely meaningless compared to the possibility of losing his son. He guaranteed his lawyer a job in 24 hours, and he delivered.
Amen! Ya Gotta Do What Ya Gotta Do to get paid. Dustin Hoffman's Facial Expressions are brilliant. Although what he did Kissing The Lady would be "bad" by today's standards when you have good fortune you are so happy you overlook certain things. These guys should be impressed that Ted doesn't mind the Salary. Now more than ever folks are taking lower Salaries. It's like an Accountant being demoted to being a Bookkeeper not that there's anything wrong with that but it happens.
As I've stated before, this scene alone won Hoffman the Oscar!
@@rockyracoon3233 Yes. I remember watching it in The Cinema when I was 13. I was so worried for him, yet things worked out. By today's standards being so assertive may not have worked, yet desperate times mean desperate measures. I remember watching "She's Having A Baby" and Kevin Bacon's Character Jefferson aka "Jake" went through the Interview from "H@ll!". They knew how much he wanted the Job but they dangled it in front of him.
Really good comment! I think that scene shows how vulnerable we are regarding employment and that determination gets you places...
@@laminage I disagree. Being assertive even today does get you the job. Employers like go getters. They want someone who’s going to be serious about the job.
When he gets the new job, I feel like I got the job
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It shows how much the father would do for his kid. Brilliant film
I like the decision that he can finally hear the music once he has the job. Good filmmaking.
The filmmaking level kept until that decade is unreachable ever since. film fossils~
How badass is that man?! He walked into a last-minute interview two days before Christmas with the greatest poker face and balls of steel all whilst being under the highest level of pressure, because he just couldn't leave that office with a rejection, since that would cost him the custody of his son. You see non of the actual desperation in his face or body movement. Despite everything that's at stake here and with a ticking clock, Kramer remains perfectly composed, calm, and professional and just gets it done! - I probably would've shown all my despair with every phrase and gesture...if not just told them about the whole custody battle situation! - I don't even have kids yet, but this is so inspirational!
Great analysis
I think it's a matter of luck: the emotions are usually hard to control for anybody, and sometimes being backed into a corner just gets the adrenaline flowing, pepping one up. In real life, 8 out of ten times the guy would flinch, giving some sign of desperation that would turn them, off. On the other hand, he caught them in a holiday celebration which might have made them generous: who wouldn't enjoy the holiday more giving a guy a job, versus sending him home in despair? A lot of interesting variables and factors here.
Persistence pays off. Great scene. There is nothing more determined than a parent of a child when it comes to providing for them. A good parent that is.
Great way to work a job interview. Those guys are big shot executives and should be able to make a decision without a lot of shilly-shally. Hoffman was confident, knew what he had to offer and put the ball in their court.
He leaves his book so he would have to return and face them again. Taking notes*
These days who brings a book?
@@dewanmdurnto3592 A CD-ROM?
@@dewanmdurnto3592 Anybody who wants to show the work they have done in print.
@@dewanmdurnto3592 depends on what office job you're applying for
Ted goes to work his first day then finds out he was fired for kissing a coworker as he’s leaving the company’s holiday party.
Tom M: Not back in the 80's, but today, absolutely.
@@hehhehhuhhuh7014 you have all reazon
Today’s woman would sue the company the office decorators Santa 🎅 and the elves. Be on CNN MSNBC Poor Ol’Dustin would have to run for office as a liberal politician to rid the ridicule
And he has a lawsuit
That would never fly today
Good old 70's Holiday parties. The world has gone to pot in many ways.
I hear ya sister!
4:13 Gets the job. 4:33 Gets fired for sexual harassment. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory Kramer, ffs...
He clearly kept his job. Had it been nowadays then yeah
You could actually touch members of the opposite sex without fear of retribution in the 70's and a little into the 80's.
Mr Kramer why did you kiss that woman?What you think we are a love and hugs firm?
You’re fired!
The editing of this scene is exquisite
1economic editing to the bare bone-unlike the idiotic editing orgies of afluentsilly editors todaY.
He sure was a go getter. Sometimes you have to do things like this and cram yourself down peoples throats to get anywhere.
If you really want a job and know you are qualified. Scream it to the mountain tops. Confidence is usually very persuasive.
If you saw the movie then you know he lost his really great but highly demanding job because he also had to parent and they needed him almost 24/7. He was told by his attorney that he has to have a job by Xmas or he will definitely not get custody of Billy. So, for Billy and himself he had to fight hard for this new job even if a step down. I love how determined he is here as well. When we are desperate we do what we must. 🙂
Especially todays world with this entry requirement nonsense. They say “we’re hiring” but you apply there and you hear nothing. As I bartender I asserted to the same Irish pub over and over and don’t stop till I get the job.
If you want something, GO GET IT!
Dustin Hoffman man...now that's an actor right there. One of the greatest performances of all time.
God!! I miss the 70s..thats a christmas party without all the pc n hr bullshit!!
Amazing how an advertising executive in the 70s managed to get any work done without the aid of computers
We did it in the 80's too!
Not really.
Loads of them were using computers well into the 1970s -- certainly the big boys of the advertising world here in Britain.
Really? That's what you got from this scene? Did you watch the whole movie?
what such a boldness for dealing with people you meet at the first time , specially at an interview , but this scene describes a lot of his personal qualities .
Love his eyes❤😻his look great great actor always a gentleman to every body wether they're rich or not famous or not he don't care he's still indigenous and that's why I appreciate him so much 🎀
This is my favourite sequence of this amazing film.
Personally I would never tell a prospective boss that my application was a "one day only" offer, because I'd get laughed out of the office, but Ted's determination is amazing. This is great filmmaking.
Mark Brown: I agree that the 'one day only' thing normally backfires. But because Ted was overqualified and was willing to take a pay cut, they figured out that it was a win-win situation.
Not like he had anything to lose - there was no way they were hiring him that day otherwise.
His impeccable presence, his determination, his professional demeanor and his impressive credentials. There was no way he was getting laughed out.
It's like Patrick Mahomes needing to move to New York City right away tombe with his girlfriend who needs "care". He walks into the JETS or GIANTS front office and says I'll be your backup-QB and take $20 million less a season. This is a "one-day offer". He isnt getting laughed out and the GM will wonder why this talent has landed in their lap on the cheap.
@@hehhehhuhhuh7014 Until he spills raw french toast on his projects trying to make breakfast and do his work at the same time. When they call his previous employer, he hints to them on the phone that Kramer is good for one thing and one thing only: lightening your workload by losing clients.
He knew he had an edge with his experience and reputation, and they would have been fools to turn the man down, particularly with that kind of salary cut.
A great actor. He has always been my favorite since I was in my high school days.
2018...that kiss cost him the job and one million dollars
And he never worked again and became a serial killer.
And back when girls did not mind of you did it.!! The world has gone so PC.
@@m.e.d.7997 good, boomer.
@@hydqjuliilq27 it was snowflake
I liked the...pulling up the zipper,...just before he demanded an answer...now!...great touch.
God was definitely with Ted
Back in the good ole days when you could get the job you wanted with balls and determination.
I genuinely feel that this is one of the most inspirational sequences in all of cinema for anyone in a difficult and seemingly helpless situation. In the context of the film, knowing that failure will almost certainly mean losing his son, Ted's under huge pressure, with this contrasted by the fun and joy of the party at the office. But throughout he remains determined, clear on what he wants and firm whilst staying polite. He won't let any obstacle stand in his way and the payoff is the relief and happiness in his face at 4:08 when he gets what he needs.
Been looking for work for over a year. Maybe, I'll try this tactic on my next interview. Can't hurt.
Yeah its crap when you seem to tick all the boxes so whats to think about?
Im tempted myself to try this......wont know until im in the heat of the interview and unlike Ted in this movie I was laid off not fired 😂
I've been at it for three.
@@fatwalletboy2
Is there a difference between being laid off and getting fired?
I love this scene..makes me cry because we have to put others besides our selves..he has to do this for his child..humility n the cruelness of this world will make u a man!!
Dustin Hoffman plays desperate characters so well
I like when movies paced themselves and allowed a scene to just sit without rapid fire dialogue every second.
"Mr Kramer, I'm not sure we have anything here that is suitable for you.." "Look, I'm desperate - I'll take a $200 salary with unpaid overtime." "Can you start tomorrow ?"
"I'll pay you to let me work here so I can say I have a job at the custody hearing. By the way, try on my new Bulova, it would look nice on you." ... "You're hired."
Even George Costanza can learn from this.
To be fair, George did get hired by the NY Yankees after telling off the owner, George Steinbrenner.
We often talk about how brave and dedicated moms can be but there are also some dads who do all in their power for their children well-being.
Ah, the seventies. When a man could celebrate a new job by sexually harassing a new co-worker even before his official start date.
@3:42 Everybody's whispering "Who's the stiff ?"
I originally saw this at the movie theater when I was about 10 years old and through the years this was always one of my favorite parts of the movie but it's definitely now my favorite because I can completely identify with what he's going through, and that extreme relief when you get a really good job after you went through so much hell
Show me anybody with that much persistence in today's world?? NY, gotta love that place during the times!!
I was interviewed by Dyad during their 1979 office Christmas party and got the job. They had great annual garden parties.
When you think about it it actually IS a great time to interview for a job.
@@m.e.d.7997 It was. It was a great computer to work for too I shoulda stayed there or gone back.
I've probably watched this movie 6 times. The acting is amazing. This movie and "The China Syndrome" are my favorite films of 1979.
how about "Manhattan"?
@@AnonYmous-ry2jn I can't remember if I've seen the whole film. I'll have to watch it.
People used to wear real clothes back then. I'm impressed
DUSTIN es un actor de primera clase!
In 2022, he’d get fired one minute after getting hired for kissing that lady without her consent which is technically sexual assault. If she decides to call the cops he might even get arrested. Mrs. Kramer would use that against him in court and he’d lose the kid permanently. It’d be an entirely different movie 😆
It can happen with dedication - I was temporarily out of work, and applied everywhere. Within two weeks, .I was given an interview, offered the job and I started the very next morning.
Ted Kramer is what a real man should be. Responsible, able, strong. Love this character.
Quite recently I was given the bad news my Sainsbury's store was closing and I was worried on being jobless. The managers put up vacancies for new roles and I seen one & applied.
I watched and studied this scene saying to myself I was getting the job and I went in for my interview feeling confident and determined.
And a few days later I got the job!
This scene was the inspiration for my success.
If anyone needs motivation this scene is it.
It’s incredible the amount of comments this clip has garnered, but this is by far my favorite.
It's quite possible that they created the track specifically for the movie. Might have been cheaper to do it that way than pay the rights for an existing song.
That's true. I was too young to know the difference back then.
I think your right and this is probably the case. I have been trying to find this song (on and off) for the alt 7 years - by every now and then doing a search on some of the lyrics - nothing ever comes up ... I suspect the producer had a friend who had a fiend who agreed to bash out a tune for them for the movie. i know to get a copy righted song into a movie used in a song takes one of two things (or both) a hell of a lot of money or you know some one in the music business who will do you a favor ...
Check the credits at the end of the movie 👍
If only job interviews were as easy as this in real life haha
In 2022-23 it kind of is easy. If you have the qualifications and your industry is understaffed, you can pick and choose with a good number of years under your belt. I received many offers within 24-hours or when the interview wrapped up. It's a good feeling.
For anyone with Dustin Hoffman's swagger and eloquence, they would be....especially in the late 70's when they based hiring decisions more on who was more qualified for the job and less on filling minority employment quotas.
Questa è la scena piu' potente di questo splendido film. Scritto benissimo. Ed è anche una delle scene che terro' sempre con me. IMMENSO DUSTIN HOFFMAN
4:33 Today: Hired and Fired The Same Day.
He left his suitcase in the office to insure he could come back in.
In real life they'd say the guy must be an idiot to leave his briefcase, and retract the job offer, and just chuck the briefcase with a "thanks, but no thanks' not on it out the window so it lands on his head. By the way, the guy who hires him only works there part time. In "3 days of the Condor" you see him working for the CIA operating a switchboard.
Love this scene. Wonderful film.. Does anyone know the name of the track played as he leaves the office after gaining the job?
It's a catchy disco song - but I suspect that it was a song just written for the movie (perhaps to avoid issues around negotiating copyright policies) as the song, by any title description does not appear in the end credits of the movie... I have the dvd and have looked at the end credits carefully - it's not there ..
It's the "kramer is a rapist" song.
Smoking and drinking in a workplace setting with no health police demanding to shut everything down. Being able to kiss a pretty woman you don't know without anyone freaking out. The 70s were the last truly great time to be alive.
Well said!! I so agree!
The 80's were, too!!
How can you kiss someone without consent?,smoke and get cancer,drink get drunk and fight,lol people have evolved
Dewan M Durnto people haven’t evolved. They still smoke, drink etc
The girl at last scene: WTF…… Hey Dustin Hoffman!
if that was done today he would have been sued and terminated before he even started the job.
Sad.
@@m.e.d.7997 , Definitely, he could not have gotten away with that nowadays as that would be considered sexual harassment. I wondered what he might have been thinking. Then again, he did this at a party but still, the woman looked like she did not know him at all.
@@williamlandolfi7858 Workplace flirtations are even obsolete now. Mena re afraid to say much to a woman unrelated to work business. The same goes for women. I think some of it went too far for sure.
This scene is so fantastic - life forces Ted's hand into desperately begging for a position for which he is well overqualified, but he puts his best foot forward, knocks it out of the park, and puts his foot down when he has to.
Happy birthday to Dustin Hoffman 8 8. This is my favorite scene of his after the end of the 🎓 graduate of course
He just turned 84. He was 42 when he made Kramer vs Kramer.
@@hehhehhuhhuh7014 thank you for sharing I like to know the facts
@@hehhehhuhhuh7014 Joke's on you pal. The clock caught up and he's turning 88.
@@AnonYmous-ry2jn What's your point?
$4,800 is equivalent to about $20,000 in 2022 dollars. A whopper of a pay cut, fr.
but was it a small or large *percentage* of his prior pay?
In today's world he probably would have been charged for kissing that woman without her consent.
He should have had his job offer revoked immediately after that!
@1:03 - Wow ! Now that was fast ! The employment clerk called the company to book an appointment for Kramer, and he arrived before the receptionist had even put the phone down !
04:32 Could you possibly imagine such a kiss happening today? Everyone would scream "sexual harassment!"
Christopher Thorkon it brings that famous photo from WWII to mind, the soldier kissing a nurse on the street.
Right, like if i think your cute Christopher and i got a new job why cant I go up to you and kiss you passionalty for a second, and why should you feel weird about that? I hate liberals
@@luiscuesta0719 This has nothing to do with being Liberal or Conservative politically. Today, kissing a complete stranger at a company party would be definitely be considered sexual harassment. As for Ted Kramer (Dustin Hoffman), I don't know what he was thinking except he was thrilled he landed a job and he was surrounded by people who were having a company party. I am not saying that action was right but we have to remember that this scene took place in the late 1970's (more than 40 years ago). I don't think people were as concerned about sexual harassment as they are today.
@@williamlandolfi7858 I was being sarcastic about that last part, you know how super conservatives think anything that makes sense to not be an asshole is a liberal agenda, and im not saying we should cancel the actor or anything. But it definitely should not be glorified or wished that it happened today, thats creepy.
@@williamlandolfi7858 (as far as intended film composition, the message reads: m only missing a wife-double to feel complete nd too join these festivities)
This is what I call "Nothing to lose and willing to risk it".
Whenever I need a confidence boost, this does it.
this is why Pacino lost the Oscar,but Dustin was great in this
At the first time I saw a scene of this movie , I thought he was Alpacino
Pacino incidentally turned the roll of Ted Kramer down.
nice view of the park
And thus he was instantly fired
this is a great scene. Someone should try this 1 day offer in real life.
Just watched this on Amazon Video. Great film. Anyone know what the "ride along with me, set me free" song playing in the last 30 seconds at the Christmas party is? Shazam, Google et al have all let me down.
I think I heard somewhere it was composed specifically for the movie to bypass copyright law or something.
I remember watching this movie for the first time in my early 20s and thinking about the Streep character, 'what a bitch, running out on her husband and kid like that.' I watched it again about seven years later and I got it and understood why she left. She'd become completely immersed in her husband's identity. She was no longer Joanna Kramer, she was Ted Kramer's wife and Billy Kramer's mother. She had to re - establish her individuality.
I didn't have to do it like this but the way he gets a job so fast reminds me of myself. Company i was working for went bankrupt the end of November. The same day i was told my boss gave me details of someone who could help me. I had a job the next day. It ended up being a shit job so i applied for another, they called me the next day i had an interview the next and was hired the same day.
This is an awesome scene, it inspires me to use this tactic and use it in my own way for my next job interview. :)
No shitdick
Damn.. even if those disco songs were just meant as 'throwaway background party songs' just for the movie, they're actually JAMS! (unintentionally?) lol Would still love to know if they're actually real songs or just 30 sec. snippets made for the movie (to avoid copyright etc..) From the comments on here, seems they're nowhere to be found :/
I wanna know too.
I came here to try and find what this track is. It doesn't seem to be listed anywhere as part of the soundtrack...
That guy did not deserve the commission.
Well kissing a stranger at the Xmas party without her consent ... Another court case for him ... Lol
🤣😁
Even back then, he would need written proof of the job offer to hold up in court, which HR wouldn't be able to draft for him until after the holidays anyway (since they likely all have already stopped working).
In 2022 after a successful 40 year career with thus company, the coworker he kissed at the end of the scene files a sexual harassment complaint and he gets fired.
he doesn't get fired, because his sharp lawyer is able to prove that the girl set the whole thing up to get her own lawsuit against the company, by getting Kramer's wife to leave him so he would get fired and apply for this job and kiss her, all of it an elaborate scheme to launch her own sexual harrassment case.
Look for work? He’s a professional, not a construction worker or other tradesman!
But kudos to him! He didn’t feel sorry for himself after getting fired and took a new job within a week. Maybe for less pay, but he did it.
Very determined
God knows how advertising executives in the 70s managed to get any work done without computers
Edward Bliss Hard Work
Boards, X-acto knives, glue, scotch tape, pencils and paintbrushes, and couriers and FedEx for getting the artwork to and from clients for approval.
NAJLEPŠA SCENA V FILMU ! TED DOBI SLUŽBO IN ZABAVA !
Tak/Da, Jest to/eto najlepsze/najlepsje scena z filmu!!
I forgot what a great movie this was
How much would that last tactic work out in real life if you just demanded to your future employer the need to make a decision now?
This great film could never be made now. Firstly, it has a man who is a better parent than a woman and, secondly, this scene depicts men and women flirting together in an atmosphere of fun and anticipation, without the assumption that men are somehow aggressors. This is the kind of film to make feminists spit.
Let the feminists spit! I worked in the good old days of the big advertising agency. Guys were guys and the gals were gals. We all clawed our way to the top. The feminists do themselves a great disservice.
@@dianadugina883 have you seen the mad men series also? I agree with you. At countrywide home loans from 2002 to 2007, they hired a lot of young people and the housing or mortgage business was booming. there was no drug tests required and more than half the people were probably high while working. a lot were also temporary workers, and if they needed permanent workers, they just hired them through the employment agencies. A lot of this stuff depicted in this party happened, although inappropriate. I'm not sure what happened at the holiday parties, etc, because I didn't go to them, but even from 2002-2007 I remember it being loose, with alcohol and dancing provided, although probably not as blatant as what is depicted here, like directly kissing a female you just saw. If most people listen to music and party, and not listen to news stories, they wouldn't know about harassment issues or sexual harassment, etc. This was even during the second iraq war but your average young person still didn't care back then. They even had female and male soldiers who returned from iraq I think, but nobody seemed to care. Unlike now perhaps where more young people are paying attention to political issues. There was no required courses on how to act, at countrywide home loans from what I recall, other than a worded warning perhaps in whatever you signed, before you got hired. I'm sure some were aware of the issues, but there were still a lot of wild after hour parties, and everyone just accepting what was going on, without any critical thought about it. Lots of inappropriate contact, kissing, comments, and stories inside this large three floor building. It was just what was going on for hundreds of years basically. It was better to be a forceful woman who could defend herself, if you needed to, and this was three decades after this movie, more or less etc. Of course you had your sensitive female who would report you for saying something nice, but that was usually rare. That was one reason I didn't say much while working there, because of a past previous experience. I just was more careful, when I needed to be, after that. I just made sure I was talking to a woman who seemed more relaxed and not strict. Although I got in trouble for complaining about what I saw was laziness by some workers, which was an unusual thing for me to be put on probation for. Why would I get in trouble for that? Anyway, I agree with you.
EXEC : "Mr Kamer, could we talk privately for a moment ? " KRAMER : "Certainly. (To manager) Ahm, would you excuse us please ?" EXEC : "No, I meant could me and HIM talk privately.."
Love how he strong-arms these 2guys
3:25 Getting "The Graduate" vibes. Only question is.....Where are Simon & Garfunkel, Elaine and/or Mrs. Robinson?
story of a man who goes against the clock
This was my Christmas from 1999 to 2005.!,, Up and down! It Sucked !! Great scene from the movie
Csodàlatos Film volt Mikortól lehetne Magyarul beszèlôen meg nèzni ?? Elôre is Nagyon szépen köszönöm vàlaszukat Éva
This is kind of unrealistic. Employers don't like to be talked to like that by employees, let alone a potential employee, and would probably reject him on the spot, in real life.
abc xyz: I agree. These employers would definitely be an exception to the rule.
I disagree. He was assertive but polite. Determined. Honest. An employer is a cut throat field needs guys like this on the team. That is how people got things done.
Exactly. Being assertive but respectful is an art. He made some great points, he knows he’d be an asset because he’s overqualified and he’s willing to take a cut in pay, he’s sacrificing a lot. All they had to do was let him know that day, small price to pay if you ask me.
Not if he was an excellent candidate. He didn't get assertive until they acted indecisive.
#DustinH, you were great at 'getting the job' in #Tootsie too.
This can only be commented on a Friday 22nd at (almost) 4 o clock... Here we are... Friday 22nd 2023 3:13 pm.
Also to think that in this day and age, Interviews are so different. They need to do a background check, sometimes a credit check, and they are more strict when it comes to references. Also it reminds me of Thirtysomething when Michael Steadman and Elliot Weston lost their Ad Agency and Michael goes on an Interview with a Company that looks like "Walmart" in it's early days. It's far below him but he knows that Beggars Can't Be Choosers. Elliot finds out and he is furious but Michael tells him, he's Two Months behind on his Mortgage, his Wife Hope isn't working and they have a New Baby coming which is a miracle since they suffered a miscarriage. Co-Incidentally in England there was a Little Girl named Cheryl Ann Tweedy who used to Model for a Store similar to Walmart with Flyers who became a Music Superstar as part of Girls Aloud.
That uncalled-for kissing of an unknown woman (4:33) wouldn't stand a second in today's Me-Too movement ethos
Some grand φethos, aligned with the synchronous GRAND childbearing and childrearing. Come to think of it, we modern moms sure make better companions/partners guardians/parents to our φPETS.
Incredible what you can do when you're desperate.
leafyutube: I'm not sure that his pushiness would have worked in 2021. And BTW he certainly would have gotten thrown out on his a** for kissing that woman on the mouth.
Left out the best part! He kisses the female party-goer on his way out the door!