Thank you for all the R&D on the 2GR! Me and my wife love our 2GR and how it just makes power so smoothly and reliably even on a 110 degree days! I also have a 2AZ so I will be watching more of your videos on that to learn up and hopefully buy some amazing products to make it better suited for track days.
I used to be die hard stuck on 2grfe swapping my mr2 spyder but now that I’ve decided to turbocharge my 1zz engine your 2ar videos have convinced me that I can make some incredible power na out of the 2ar which leads me to think it can make some unreal power boosted while also being lighter and likely easier + cheaper to swap than the 2gr.
The 2AR really is a significantly better fit for the Spyder than the 2GR. A lot of people also forget the weight difference between the generations also. The SW20 weighs over 20% more than the ZZW30, this means the ~200whp that you can easily get with the 2AR worse power to weight ratio than a 2GR SW20 but not by nearly as much as most people thing and a cam'd 2AR making 240whp is noticeably faster than a 2GR SW20. Keep in mind that power can be made with the 2AR-FE with only factory parts and an aftermarket engine controller so no big spend is needed to get there.
I’m so excited to see the progression of cams for the 2gr and other supporting mods that will follow. I’m really curious if the intake manifold will be able to support the additional flow
There's only one way to find out but i suspect the stock intake manifold will give us to about 350whp or so before changes need to happen there. but this is uncharted, we need to figure it out.
I have a weird question. I have a 2009 Lexus es 350. I was wondering if the mods you’re doing was possible for me as well. i know it’s a grandma car but i got it before i even knew that Lexus was a brand off Toyota. 0 knowledge prior but I still wanna have fun with it
The engine i'm working with is the exact same one as is in your car, the difficulty you're going to run into is your transmission's limits and because of that transmission you're also stuck with the stock ECU so you'll need a way to program your ECU.
Hi bro i have a Lexus is220d with 3gr fse Swap i use the car for drift events do you know if your cams are good for my ? I have a workshop manual for 3gr but I don’t have for 2gr , engines have the same camshafts?
I really wish I didn't wreck my '09 Camry SE V6 cause I had plans to get a cold air intake & at least a muffler delete but sadly that didn't happen I want another '09 Camry like my old one & now looking at this video, I want to get a cam upgrade, headers, full custom exhaust, CAI, etc
Thanks for making these videos and parts! What do you think whould 2GR-FE engine fit with E154F transmission. Gearbox cases are the same as the E153, but I'm wondering how much room there is for transfer cases in the 2GR-FE engine.
Its been done before. Colt cams andvweb cams will refried custom cams. 3mz cams are worth around 15whp and 400 rom. Going much over thev3mz cams will require aftermarket ecu to control it. The stock intake is not good much after 6000 rpm.
Is the 2GR FE as it is stock in a Toyota the exact same thing as in an Evora? Could the Lotus blower be put on the Toyota? I just ask because if I built a kit car with a V6, starting from a Toyota motor is a lot cheaper than a Lotus. I don’t actually have a plan to do this, just like to wonder.
they will definitely not work in the single vvt-i motor, that motor is actually direct cam to valve without rockers, a completely different valvetrain. they may fit the dual vvt-i version but i have nothing here to check it with.
Have you ever thought about free valve on the 2gr? I understand it would be some work to implement but it would be interesting to see what kind of power gains could be had while remaining NA
Freevalve is an amazing system and i've spent way too many hours looking at the patents and it really is neat stuff. I've even reached out to the freevalve company a few years ago to discuss a few things and they even responded to me. This is the kind of thing that interests me to an unreasonable level. But it does not align with my goal here. My goal is to help people get more performance from their motors and developing entirely new valve actuation mechanisms and the control units to go along with them is just not something that can happen on a proper time scale.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks I have pulled the cams on the 2GR-FE, 2GR-FSE, and 3GR many times by only removing the intake, valve covers, and chain tensioner. I set cylinder #1 TDC and apply paint marks on the timing chain links for reassembly. Make sure the chain is marked correctly several times. You have to remove bank 1 chain on the intake cam first because the slack allowed by the chain tension being removed. After removing the chain on bank 1 you can remove the chain on bank 2 Once the cams are removed use a bungee to keep the chain from falling into the front cover
Life kinda got in the way there for a bit but the motor is in a car now and i'm working on wrapping up all the bits around it to make it into a running car. hopefully it won't be too much longer.
Spun a bearing. Time for a rebuild. Interested in more info on the ezp cams. Possibly high compression pistons from the 2gr-fxe or MWR Wiseco offering. Along with the neccessary valve train upgrades. I miss the forums
There's a Discord where we discuss all kinds of relevant upgrades like this, feel free to join us: discord.gg/frankensteinmotorworks The EZP cams are great, good for 20-25whp and i do have an updated MR2 tune for them. They run well with the stock tune but the updated tune just gives them a tiny bit more power. The Wiseco pistons are designed for turbo applications and i would not recommend the rings they run on an NA engine. It won't cause any damage but it will cause unnecessary internal friction losses. The FXE pistons run great though i have not checked their clearance with the EZP cams. They should clear just fine but it needs to be checked. No valvetrain upgrades needed for the EZP cams.
So found your videos a few weeks back, fyi great videos. What about the 2gr fxe from the Lexus hybrids. I would think similarly like the 2ar fxe it would have fantastic base potential due to the high compression ratio.
The 2gr-fxe could likely be used to make some pretty nice power in a similar way but the intake cam in those cannot be used in the exhaust position so you can't quite do the same thing.
The 1GR-FE is an oddball. it has 72mm main journals and the 2gr-fe has 61mm main journals. There are many other differences but this is enough to see that the crank would not swap right over.
Thankfully this motor has vvt-i which really makes a huge difference in low end power. It allows massive cams to be used without the normal downsides associated with big cams. I expect that other than a 900 or 1000RPM idle these will be perfectly tame.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks that's super interesting. I was originally planning to get version A for better idle, but if idle isn't a concern version B might make more sense. I'm planning to be NA for a year or so before adding a turbo in sw20. Would you recommend one version over another?
@@DzuyNguyen I'll have better feedback on idle with these once they are installed but just to show the power of vvt-i, here is the 2AR-FE idling on camshafts very similar to 263-C with vvt-i adjusted to idle properly: ua-cam.com/video/rTGQNKaLZx8/v-deo.html and here is the same motor with a bit more vvt-i angle, not even enough angle to be making peak power yet: ua-cam.com/video/wNZBKYNaZ_k/v-deo.html
@@FrankensteinMotorworks with all these mods on the 2arfe.. lets say 240whp.. can this motor still be made to be road legal with emissions obd2 functionality?
Mark, I've looked at Kelford's website and noticed that all of these cams are created for turbo applications. As a result, they have a higher duration on the exhaust cam. Wouldn't the optimal NA cam design be the other way around (more duration on the intake cam)? I do look forward to the results of these however. Either way, the results should be better than stock and MWR.
Honestly i'm not a big fan of how they've described them on the site. Comments like "Great for 4.0liter stroker builds" are rather silly when you know what goes into a 4.0L stroker build from a 2gr-fe. The other thing to keep in mind is the VVT-I on these motors really changes the game for what kind of things you can do with big cams.
No, they are intended for the MKII MR2 only. Also the 2006 tC has an e series transmission but it is the narrow e series so the left side stub is the wrong length for you.
I wonder what you can do with the 2G-fxe. It has the high compression ratio of 12.5:1. Would be crazy if same sort of thing of the 2AR you did can be applied to 2GR
Unfortunately the 2AR has a special party trick where the intake camshaft can work in the exhaust position. The 2GR does not have the ability to do the same thing. Also, the 2GR-FXE is almost impossible to get around here. It was much more popular in other countries.
I have zero experience with the automatic transmission but if you have the manual transmission the 2GR will bolt right to it, you'll need to make a custom right side motor mount and you can use my manual 2gr swap ECU. The custom wiring won't be too hard since both the 2GR and the 2AR have the same general electrical architecture. The DBW pedal is the same exact signals so that will just work. I would rate the swap an advanced but reasonably doable swap if you have some experience.
This is great stuff ! Would you be able to make a video on porting the heads of the 2gr ? I hear that they are restrictive and a good amount of hp can be free'd up if ported
Considering we are making over 300whp from a motor plucked right out of a minivan with only external modifications that means that we are getting right around 100hp/L. That hardly qualifies as restrictive. I'm sure there are gains to be had but i will be focusing on the easier to replicate modifications first before i dive into stuff like that.
excited to see the 2gr exploration, but surprised to see you’re selling these before testing and dyno - or did i misunderstand what was done before this specific video?
Kelford has done their QC. If these were my design then yes, i absolutely would not be selling a single one until i had tested them a whole bunch. But i suspect most people will be waiting until i show results before buying and that's fine.
the vvt-i system will make it idle quite smoothly but i'll make sure to get a video showing the cam'd idle noise :) Meanwhile you can listen to the lumpy cam'd idle of a 2AR-FE if you ask the vvt-i system to make that noise: ua-cam.com/video/wNZBKYNaZ_k/v-deo.html
No, i have a lot more tests to do there. I've been focusing on getting the production run for the 240whp version since those turned out such good results.
300 at the wheels is where the 2GR MR2 is with a bone stock motor. it gets in the mid 12's at the drag strip with a full interior and no weight reduction. THere's a good chance that cams will allow it to just barely dip into the 11's in the quarter mile.
@@FrankensteinMotorworksI don't know about that, one guy had 350 at the wheels 20 years ago he was barely doing high elevens in a full interiorized MR2. I have about 280 at the wheels and I still lose to stock Mustangs by a few cars.
@@cduncan5690 yeah I remember this guy guts his car out with no seats sitting on a milk crate to get sales from ppl with full interior. Whatever it takes man.
@@tommyhajimoto6968 not every spyder is equal, mid engine accels at launching braking and handling, I’m guessing you’re loosing while doing a highway pull which practically only shows who has higher hp. Stock mr2s would beat most mustangs at an autocross.
@グルグ fuck I get 20 with ac on just at the lowest blow what you think I could replace to get better gas millage ? I have a 2012 Camry 140k miles 2grfe v6
I'll try to remember to include it in the video but the vvt-i system allows a lot of liberty with the exact exhaust note. but i can show this, here's the 2AR in exactly the same setup but just a tune difference. Lumpy VS. Smooth: ua-cam.com/video/rTGQNKaLZx8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/wNZBKYNaZ_k/v-deo.html The difference at higher RPM and higher load can be even more pronounced.
The 2.8 never got much love. The only GM V6 that did is the L67 3.8 Supercharged engines. If I still had my Fiero from 20yrs ago, the L67 would be my choice. Had 2 GTP’s and they were a riot! There are other options, but it’ll be custom and very expensive.
The 2ZZis not really a motor that captures my interest. It's the entire reason i made the 2AR-FE swap kit for the spyder because i felt that the 2zz was just underwhelming and expensive.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Unfortunetly you're pretty right, especially from that expensive part IMO, I really wish that it could be bored out to 2+ liters, that way it could actually compete with the K series and not just the B. Im surprised by how capable the 2AR seems to be too!
@@FrankensteinMotorworks The sizes of those ports makes me think so, maybe they had idea's for new XRS' or a sportier 4 banger Camry. Who knows but that would've been cool
Thank you for all the R&D on the 2GR! Me and my wife love our 2GR and how it just makes power so smoothly and reliably even on a 110 degree days! I also have a 2AZ so I will be watching more of your videos on that to learn up and hopefully buy some amazing products to make it better suited for track days.
interested to see you do a vid of the cam install. I just finished mine and it wasn't fun. I didn't need shims thankfully.
yeah, it isn't hard but it certainly is involved. many more steps than the 2AR-FE
I'll be super interested when they have something for the 2GR-FSE....unless the FE and FSE shares the same head config?
Im seeing that you have the old oil cooler pipes , i really advise you to change it to the full metal pipes , its a ticking bomb.
I want to know all the boring ways you measured it
i have a question, have you ever experimented with cheap honda/acura v6’s from cars like the pilot, accord, mdx, rdx, tsx, odyssey, and tl?
There's plenty of people out there playing with the Honda motors, i am sticking to the Toyota motors for now.
I used to be die hard stuck on 2grfe swapping my mr2 spyder but now that I’ve decided to turbocharge my 1zz engine your 2ar videos have convinced me that I can make some incredible power na out of the 2ar which leads me to think it can make some unreal power boosted while also being lighter and likely easier + cheaper to swap than the 2gr.
The 2AR really is a significantly better fit for the Spyder than the 2GR. A lot of people also forget the weight difference between the generations also. The SW20 weighs over 20% more than the ZZW30, this means the ~200whp that you can easily get with the 2AR worse power to weight ratio than a 2GR SW20 but not by nearly as much as most people thing and a cam'd 2AR making 240whp is noticeably faster than a 2GR SW20. Keep in mind that power can be made with the 2AR-FE with only factory parts and an aftermarket engine controller so no big spend is needed to get there.
Does the camry 3.0 1mz engine have the same engine block as the camry 3.5 2gr? Is there a way to put the pieces of the 2gr in the 1mz?
I’m so excited to see the progression of cams for the 2gr and other supporting mods that will follow. I’m really curious if the intake manifold will be able to support the additional flow
There's only one way to find out but i suspect the stock intake manifold will give us to about 350whp or so before changes need to happen there. but this is uncharted, we need to figure it out.
@Frankenstein Motorworks Can I install this cam without also installing a new computer in the car?
I need help plz get back to iD like some guidance on how to boost my 06 Toyota Avalon limited
Amazing, Thank you for your work. I assume that they would be useful for the 4gr guys as well.
Can u show us a 9K rpm 2GR???
That isn't on the todo list at first but eventually i'd like to get there.
very much looking forward to the camshaft performance data and the install details...My 2GR is ready for some juice
TURBO CHARGE IT !!!!!!!!!!! I want to turbo mine !!!!!!
I have a weird question. I have a 2009 Lexus es 350. I was wondering if the mods you’re doing was possible for me as well. i know it’s a grandma car but i got it before i even knew that Lexus was a brand off Toyota. 0 knowledge prior but I still wanna have fun with it
The engine i'm working with is the exact same one as is in your car, the difficulty you're going to run into is your transmission's limits and because of that transmission you're also stuck with the stock ECU so you'll need a way to program your ECU.
Was the camshaft installation video ever made? I don’t see it
When will you do the install video for the cams ?
Will these cams work for the 2gr-fks ?
Hey can I run a haltech ecu with stock 2GR-FE on my 07 Camry
Hi bro i have a Lexus is220d with 3gr fse Swap i use the car for drift events do you know if your cams are good for my ? I have a workshop manual for 3gr but I don’t have for 2gr , engines have the same camshafts?
I really wish I didn't wreck my '09 Camry SE V6 cause I had plans to get a cold air intake & at least a muffler delete but sadly that didn't happen
I want another '09 Camry like my old one & now looking at this video, I want to get a cam upgrade, headers, full custom exhaust, CAI, etc
They work for rav4 2012 v6?
Where the hell you find a tune for a 2grfe
Will 1GR crank and rods drop in or is the deck too short? Figured if anyone has tried it, you have.
It's not a deck height problem, the journals are all different sizes.
do you think these will run well on a daily stock motor?
It Will be same for 4 liter 2gr fe
Thanks for making these videos and parts!
What do you think whould 2GR-FE engine fit with E154F transmission. Gearbox cases are the same as the E153, but I'm wondering how much room there is for transfer cases in the 2GR-FE engine.
Thanx for the heads up on how to fix my timing cover leak if it ever leaks. Also THANX TOYOTA 😑
Wish the 1mz had all this love. Would love to have my Avalon with a custom set of cams
Its been done before. Colt cams andvweb cams will refried custom cams. 3mz cams are worth around 15whp and 400 rom. Going much over thev3mz cams will require aftermarket ecu to control it. The stock intake is not good much after 6000 rpm.
AWESOME! hey you missed a great pun "IT'S UNCAMY" LOL
Is the 2GR FE as it is stock in a Toyota the exact same thing as in an Evora? Could the Lotus blower be put on the Toyota?
I just ask because if I built a kit car with a V6, starting from a Toyota motor is a lot cheaper than a Lotus. I don’t actually have a plan to do this, just like to wonder.
Will these cams work on 1gr-fe single or dual vvt?
they will definitely not work in the single vvt-i motor, that motor is actually direct cam to valve without rockers, a completely different valvetrain. they may fit the dual vvt-i version but i have nothing here to check it with.
Does this stuff work for the 2gr in a 2009 camry
Yes, it does.
Noted. Wait for the 2gr to blow up before changing cams.
yeah, i wish they made these a lot easier to swap.
A cam teardown, upgrade, and reassembly would be so helpful.
Yes, i will do my best to make a good video on how to upgrade the cams in these motors.
This is amazing
Welp, I’m excited for my GT warranty to finish in 2 years 🙌🏻
Have you ever thought about free valve on the 2gr? I understand it would be some work to implement but it would be interesting to see what kind of power gains could be had while remaining NA
Freevalve is an amazing system and i've spent way too many hours looking at the patents and it really is neat stuff. I've even reached out to the freevalve company a few years ago to discuss a few things and they even responded to me. This is the kind of thing that interests me to an unreasonable level. But it does not align with my goal here. My goal is to help people get more performance from their motors and developing entirely new valve actuation mechanisms and the control units to go along with them is just not something that can happen on a proper time scale.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks completely understand, more so food for thought. Always curious about theoretical power gains. Thanks for the reply!
DO these also work on 2 GR FSE
Sorry, they do not. the 2GR-FSE has direct injection and the fuel pump for that is driven from the camshaft. the 2GR-FE cams do not have that feature.
I would be interested in what you can do on a 1GR 4L truck engine.
You can replace camshafts in the 2gr without taking the front cover and oil pans off.
In theory you can do it but it's tricky.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks I have pulled the cams on the 2GR-FE, 2GR-FSE, and 3GR many times by only removing the intake, valve covers, and chain tensioner. I set cylinder #1 TDC and apply paint marks on the timing chain links for reassembly. Make sure the chain is marked correctly several times. You have to remove bank 1 chain on the intake cam first because the slack allowed by the chain tension being removed. After removing the chain on bank 1 you can remove the chain on bank 2 Once the cams are removed use a bungee to keep the chain from falling into the front cover
Love the content. Just subscribed
Awesome is there any updates on this?
Life kinda got in the way there for a bit but the motor is in a car now and i'm working on wrapping up all the bits around it to make it into a running car. hopefully it won't be too much longer.
Spun a bearing. Time for a rebuild. Interested in more info on the ezp cams. Possibly high compression pistons from the 2gr-fxe or MWR Wiseco offering. Along with the neccessary valve train upgrades.
I miss the forums
There's a Discord where we discuss all kinds of relevant upgrades like this, feel free to join us: discord.gg/frankensteinmotorworks
The EZP cams are great, good for 20-25whp and i do have an updated MR2 tune for them. They run well with the stock tune but the updated tune just gives them a tiny bit more power.
The Wiseco pistons are designed for turbo applications and i would not recommend the rings they run on an NA engine. It won't cause any damage but it will cause unnecessary internal friction losses. The FXE pistons run great though i have not checked their clearance with the EZP cams. They should clear just fine but it needs to be checked. No valvetrain upgrades needed for the EZP cams.
I know you said it in one of your videos but what mpg are you getting with the swap and tune?
Do you have any ecu tune available
I currently have a tune for the 263-EZP cams as well as the 263-C cams.
So found your videos a few weeks back, fyi great videos. What about the 2gr fxe from the Lexus hybrids. I would think similarly like the 2ar fxe it would have fantastic base potential due to the high compression ratio.
The 2gr-fxe could likely be used to make some pretty nice power in a similar way but the intake cam in those cannot be used in the exhaust position so you can't quite do the same thing.
Do they have stroker kits for 2gr fe/fse?
Not that i know of. and the 1gr-fe parts do not fit without a bunch of machining.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks ok thanks man
am i have the ability to put the 1gr 4.0 strocker in my 2gr to increase the size of fire room ?
The 1GR-FE is an oddball. it has 72mm main journals and the 2gr-fe has 61mm main journals. There are many other differences but this is enough to see that the crank would not swap right over.
I'm looking forward to seeing what those cams make!!! ...and to see what the drivability is like.
Thankfully this motor has vvt-i which really makes a huge difference in low end power. It allows massive cams to be used without the normal downsides associated with big cams. I expect that other than a 900 or 1000RPM idle these will be perfectly tame.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks that's super interesting. I was originally planning to get version A for better idle, but if idle isn't a concern version B might make more sense. I'm planning to be NA for a year or so before adding a turbo in sw20. Would you recommend one version over another?
@@DzuyNguyen I'll have better feedback on idle with these once they are installed but just to show the power of vvt-i, here is the 2AR-FE idling on camshafts very similar to 263-C with vvt-i adjusted to idle properly: ua-cam.com/video/rTGQNKaLZx8/v-deo.html and here is the same motor with a bit more vvt-i angle, not even enough angle to be making peak power yet: ua-cam.com/video/wNZBKYNaZ_k/v-deo.html
@@FrankensteinMotorworks with all these mods on the 2arfe.. lets say 240whp.. can this motor still be made to be road legal with emissions obd2 functionality?
Mark, I've looked at Kelford's website and noticed that all of these cams are created for turbo applications. As a result, they have a higher duration on the exhaust cam. Wouldn't the optimal NA cam design be the other way around (more duration on the intake cam)? I do look forward to the results of these however. Either way, the results should be better than stock and MWR.
Honestly i'm not a big fan of how they've described them on the site. Comments like "Great for 4.0liter stroker builds" are rather silly when you know what goes into a 4.0L stroker build from a 2gr-fe. The other thing to keep in mind is the VVT-I on these motors really changes the game for what kind of things you can do with big cams.
Will the stock cluster work normally with the haltech somehow? AC Compressor ?
Yes, the haltech can feed the stock cluster in the SW20 and in the ZZW30 it can as long as you also use the body controller i designed for taht.
The cv axels. You selling on the website can i use it with 2006 scion tc manual transmission?
No, they are intended for the MKII MR2 only. Also the 2006 tC has an e series transmission but it is the narrow e series so the left side stub is the wrong length for you.
Awesome Video - Keen to see updates and finished install
I wonder what you can do with the 2G-fxe. It has the high compression ratio of 12.5:1. Would be crazy if same sort of thing of the 2AR you did can be applied to 2GR
Unfortunately the 2AR has a special party trick where the intake camshaft can work in the exhaust position. The 2GR does not have the ability to do the same thing. Also, the 2GR-FXE is almost impossible to get around here. It was much more popular in other countries.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks that is indeed one heck of a party trick you discovered 👍🏻
Yyyyyyyyyeeeeesssssssss
Marc is the man!
Holy crap, Marc! Can’t wait to see what this does. Really excited to see this installed.
Awesome, Thanks Marc!
I'm here from Gears & Gasoline! This is awesome man.
Thanks for stopping by, you came to the right place if you're looking for more in depth technical explanations.
And idea of how hard it is to fit one of these In a 2011 Scion tc
I have zero experience with the automatic transmission but if you have the manual transmission the 2GR will bolt right to it, you'll need to make a custom right side motor mount and you can use my manual 2gr swap ECU. The custom wiring won't be too hard since both the 2GR and the 2AR have the same general electrical architecture. The DBW pedal is the same exact signals so that will just work. I would rate the swap an advanced but reasonably doable swap if you have some experience.
Anxious to see the outcome. Well Done.
This is great stuff ! Would you be able to make a video on porting the heads of the 2gr ? I hear that they are restrictive and a good amount of hp can be free'd up if ported
Considering we are making over 300whp from a motor plucked right out of a minivan with only external modifications that means that we are getting right around 100hp/L. That hardly qualifies as restrictive. I'm sure there are gains to be had but i will be focusing on the easier to replicate modifications first before i dive into stuff like that.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks ah ok gotcha ! 👍🏽 Makes sense ! Thank you for the response ! 🙏🏽
Would these work for the fse too?
no, the FSE has a lobe to drive the high pressure fuel pump and these cams do not have that.
Nice nice nice
excited to see the 2gr exploration, but surprised to see you’re selling these before testing and dyno - or did i misunderstand what was done before this specific video?
Kelford has done their QC. If these were my design then yes, i absolutely would not be selling a single one until i had tested them a whole bunch. But i suspect most people will be waiting until i show results before buying and that's fine.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks thanks marc!
We want to hear camed 2gr idle on mr2.
the vvt-i system will make it idle quite smoothly but i'll make sure to get a video showing the cam'd idle noise :) Meanwhile you can listen to the lumpy cam'd idle of a 2AR-FE if you ask the vvt-i system to make that noise: ua-cam.com/video/wNZBKYNaZ_k/v-deo.html
Mark, did you test all of the sets you made for the 2ar?
No, i have a lot more tests to do there. I've been focusing on getting the production run for the 240whp version since those turned out such good results.
Nice 1 !!!
18k for installation for 300 at the wheels will get you beating slightly modified new V8 mustangs.
300 at the wheels is where the 2GR MR2 is with a bone stock motor. it gets in the mid 12's at the drag strip with a full interior and no weight reduction. THere's a good chance that cams will allow it to just barely dip into the 11's in the quarter mile.
@@FrankensteinMotorworksI don't know about that, one guy had 350 at the wheels 20 years ago he was barely doing high elevens in a full interiorized MR2. I have about 280 at the wheels and I still lose to stock Mustangs by a few cars.
@@tommyhajimoto6968 If max hp per dollar and drag racing is your only interest I'm sure there is a better engine option out there for you.
@@cduncan5690 yeah I remember this guy guts his car out with no seats sitting on a milk crate to get sales from ppl with full interior. Whatever it takes man.
@@tommyhajimoto6968 not every spyder is equal, mid engine accels at launching braking and handling, I’m guessing you’re loosing while doing a highway pull which practically only shows who has higher hp. Stock mr2s would beat most mustangs at an autocross.
With current gas prices in Florida I might be rethinking my dream 2GR build lol
2grfe from Camry and all can run on 87..
The 2GR actually gets really good fuel economy. These cams will likely affect this.
@グルグ fuck I get 20 with ac on just at the lowest blow what you think I could replace to get better gas millage ? I have a 2012 Camry 140k miles 2grfe v6
@グルグ yeah makes no send for a suv to have better gas mileage with the same engine
Cannot wait to hear the sound it's gonna make !!
I'll try to remember to include it in the video but the vvt-i system allows a lot of liberty with the exact exhaust note. but i can show this, here's the 2AR in exactly the same setup but just a tune difference. Lumpy VS. Smooth:
ua-cam.com/video/rTGQNKaLZx8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/wNZBKYNaZ_k/v-deo.html
The difference at higher RPM and higher load can be even more pronounced.
@Frankenstein Motorworks can I install this cam and that's it or do I have to put a computer in my car as well?
Would love to see what you could do with a Feiro V6 engine.
My schtick really is modern motors, i will be touching other brands occasionally but i'm unlikely to dip into the 1980's
@@FrankensteinMotorworks that's sad but understandable.
The 2.8 never got much love. The only GM V6 that did is the L67 3.8 Supercharged engines. If I still had my Fiero from 20yrs ago, the L67 would be my choice. Had 2 GTP’s and they were a riot! There are other options, but it’ll be custom and very expensive.
What if…Marc built a 2GRFE powered Fiero for Lemons. A Toyotafied Pontiac would be hilarious.
@@apricity69 I could dig it
Do you ever do 2ZZ cams?
The 2ZZis not really a motor that captures my interest. It's the entire reason i made the 2AR-FE swap kit for the spyder because i felt that the 2zz was just underwhelming and expensive.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Unfortunetly you're pretty right, especially from that expensive part IMO, I really wish that it could be bored out to 2+ liters, that way it could actually compete with the K series and not just the B. Im surprised by how capable the 2AR seems to be too!
@@loganamurray64 The 2AR really is a hidden gem, i think Toyota had much bigger plans for this thing.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks The sizes of those ports makes me think so, maybe they had idea's for new XRS' or a sportier 4 banger Camry. Who knows but that would've been cool