39 year, still on the tools every day tile setter here. I always insulate and vapor barrier first. If you steam every day I would definitely hang copper dissipating rods vertically through the middle of each joist space. You can use 1/2" copper water supply pipe. Use copper wire to balance them in the joist space. This is like putting a spoon in a cup of very hot water. It will keep the space a lower temperature so it will lesson the cavity from expanding. KERDI does a good job with water, steam and vapor but I would definitely grout with Epoxy. I always tell people a steam shower is like building a shower in outer space. It is not just steam. The space becomes pressurized.The vapor is much much smaller than a water or steam droplet. I also recommend a few tips for keeping your shower performing for years. Squeegee. Always leave the door open when you finish, when applicable. Always leave your bathroom door open afterward. Leave a timed fan on for 20 or 20 minutes. Consider a hydrostat up high in your bathroom. It can be set to automatically turn your fan on. Open a window if applicable. I still swear by construction style sloped bases using 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 drypack. This I would definitely leave to a long time pro. Liner underneath. Waterproof with Hydro-Ban on top after at least 2 full days of drying. Put a fan or even better a humidifier in the room and run it as long as you can stand it. I use WEDI board exclusively. More money but I have had zero failures ever since it came out. I also recommend running in floor heat so it can be continued under the liner in the shower. This will also help dry the space. I will also heat the bench top if length of wire allows. Kudos to everyone who does it their own way. There is more than one way to skin a cat. I haven't had to fix a shower in well over 30 years Last tip for your existing shower. Every 3 or 4 weeks or when cleaning it check for any cracking or missing grout. I takes 5 minutes. Over time this will be disastrous. Also do the same with silicone. Because I use epoxy only I don't need silicone. Silicone ofter has a hard time in steam showers. I do nothing but high end custom work and they pay a premium. I book an appointment a week later with the customer and I personally go over the grout and joints. The customer accompanies me and I instruct them what to look for. If they see some cracked or missing grout I will touch it up for nothing. If they are nice people it will away free for about 3 years. But that is only if they catch it fairly quick. I have never left a comment before in the tile space. This was just to provide potential ideas for any future steam showers you attempt.
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As a tile setter. I recommend priming the walls of your shower first. Stops the drywall from wicking the moisture out of your thinset , when installing membranes
Also as a tile setter running a flood test for 24hrs should be done as for drilling into your waterproofing membrane and not using kerdifix or even a schluter channel so your glass sits in and there is no screws lastly looks like you used 1/4 notch trowel for your kerdi drain membrane always use kerdi trowel when using kerdi !… wouldn’t be surprised if this was to fail watch more schluter videos or attend there courses all over
When using kerdi, only giving the drywall a drink of water is necessary by wiping down with a damp sponge. Also, the "green" drywall is not necessary if you are properly installing the schluter system. I also cringed every time you drilled through the waterproof system and didnt waterproof the holes you drilled. I hope it doesnt fail.
@@thesparks613 Nooo. Do not prime with paint or PVA. There is a specific primer that reduces surface porosity, in the UK I use BAL all in one plus primer. You can also use it as an admixture for tile adhesive and grout which is awesome in shower areas. HOWEVER, personally, I would not use plasterboard in showers and especially not in a steam room. I would use a synthetic tile backer board. They are waterproof, light and so easy to work with. With the cost inflation of plasterboard, there also isn't much difference in the cost.
And helps home owners see the problems when they are told "trust me" and yet you showed along with plumbers and tilers and gc's stating the old way doesnt last or worse cut corners and 5 yrs down the road no reprocutions
i'm in the middle of repainting our kitchen cabinets and ahve had like 4-5 of these angry moments with mistakes lol... lessons learned. In the end, we're better DIYers and homeowners for making these mistakes and as long as we fix them and do it right the 2nd or third time, everything's fine. Just more time spent on it is all. I've still gotta put the bottom cabinets back together and get the top started. What might've been a two week project suddenly turned into a two month project more than likely.
We all feel his pain. No job goes without problems, even for the professionals. But even knowing this I still get MAD with myself when I mess up!! This is a great finished product
As someone just getting into DIY - it is really nice to see that even someone with your experience can make mistakes too. Thanks for leaving it in and not editing it out like many would.
Professional bath and kitchen guy here, thankd for your honesty and thourough process. I commend you on showing the failures and hard times, you're great at this. Also, those contractors were really on the premium side and should have done an immaculate jobe in a week for that price.
I like the fact that he’s not that good at this stuff and he still shows the video because it’s very encouraging for everybody. Keep up the work, you just got a new subscriber.
Man, I love your channel. I love your mistakes and how you don't hide from them. Truly one of the best channels on youtube. Thank you, and I am always excited to see more.
Here is some feedback from me, a tradesman, and what I would have done differently. In any wet areas I use a synthetic tile-backer board. You don't need to use a system over top of it so it saves hassle, time and money overall. Control valves at the side of the shower so you can turn the shower on without getting wet and less likely to get moisture behind it. That aside, outstanding finish! Love it.
so you Just Put Boards on the framing and waterproof the connecting Points? does that mean you dont need any drywall? you can Put tiles directly on the Boards?
@@rolikasbam2569 either actually. There is a thin board that can be adhered to dry wall. Or a board which is the same thickness as drywall that you fix directly to framing and can tile straight on to.
I’m tad dumb…but prefer hardware stores to clothes stores….don’t you need vent to outside? Isn’t that why you get mould? When I was in UK….well it seems windows in bathtub/shower vent….yep there was mould….
@@paulineverriere8054 yes, but not only that. Ventilation is a massive factor, but so is insulation. You get mould wherever water pools, so if you get lots of condensation, especially on cold surfaces, you get mould. To combat that you can make the surfaces warmer and improve ventilation. This is exactly what I did on my own property which had a horrible mould problem. Also, using a squeegee after showering make a surprising difference.
Hey there, plumber here. When you do your shower arms and anything that is going into the 1/2” fip fittings through the tile and drywall, put a 6” brass nip and a cap inside of it temporality until you put your fixtures in it. That protects the water lines and won’t allow any sediment to get inside. Otherwise great work!🎉
I remember seeing the promo for this video months ago on UA-cam shorts and was wigging out that I’d missed the full upload, but seeing all the challenges you had with delivery and structural issues makes sense now. As for that tile demo, takes me back to my last laundry demo and my most used tool on that project was a rotary hammer drill and a chisel bit. Certainly took the sweat component out of it, leaving me with 100% courage to do that project in a week!
As a drywaller id had to remove plenty of moldy greenboard and we use something called tilebacker which is fiberglass sheetrock which is water resistant and way better mold resitant than greenboard which is really just the paper on the board that helps the with the mold not the actual drywall plus all you need to do is just redguard or whatever the joints not the whole thing
I loved that you didn't show the final product until the end of the video. It builds anticipation for viewers and increases viewer retention. Excellent job with the bathroom!
Wow! Awesome job. I can't believe this, plus the other upgrades, would have made this a 35k+ bathroom remodel if it was done by a contractor. That's nuts. Way to save money. My only add would have been a shower light with a built in vent fan. They look just like a normal can light but when you're done you just hit the switch and draw all of that moisture out.
did my bathroom myself a year ago, glad to see guys better than me have screw ups and the frustration so I know I'm not the only one. I also lost it at the part of "drywall stud or waterline" HA yup.
I'm sure you're aware of Isaac's Tile Coach channel - I've learned so much about the bad tile work that people do and what can be done to avoid problems in the future. He's covered a few of the problems you experienced.
We all run into dilemmas in home improvement projects...thanks for not editing yours out!! We all feel your frustration. In the end, as always, you did an amazing job!!
Hey Dude, not sure if someone has commented this before - if you want to speed one process up - rather than using drywall for the ceiling, i've used kerdi-board for the shower ceiling, rather than fighting the drywall overhead, as well its already pre-waterproofed, just need to seal the corners. Cost difference vs time/material is minimal or if anything you'll save time which is money in your pocket if priced appropriately. Good Luck
I’m a General Contractor and love the Kerdi system; installed a lot of showers with this system. I have now switched to Kerdi board vs using the membrane system…saves a lot on time but cost more in materials. For the DIY person the Kerdi board also takes out a few of the steps that can cause issues as shown in this video. Watch the official manufacturers videos for install methods and call their tech support if you have questions, they are very helpful.
Being from Austria where every house is made of brick and mortar or cement, I envy you for the flexibility that you get with the American way of building walls.You may have more issues with Sound proofing or insulation but changing the Layout of a room is so much easier.
@@Pilotfarmand Tell me about it. Bought a house from the 30's and I want to renovate the bathroom. I'll literally need sticks of dynamite to tear that shit down :O(
@@innominatum9906 Same thing with my house, renovate it would cost lots in demolitions. Basically they said to me "You'll spend less in demolishing it all and rebuild it from zero". Bricks and mortar/concrete sucks :D
@@Pilotfarmand The downside is that American houses are pretty much designed to fail. They won't last nearly as long. This is how America fosters consumerism. I'd like to see that shower after 10 years.
Man, LOVE all the editing you do -- it looks like you have fun doing, too, and it makes the video more interesting and amusing to watch. Good job, not only the shower but the whole deal. You're an entertainer!
Awesome video! Really cool to see someone with basic tile experience tackle a project like this ! Only critique i have is the niche shelf. I hate how thick schluter shelves are. I prefer either ripping it down, using a small slab of stone, or using the field tile if it is large enough. Amazing video!
That's a great build. Justs wondering the reason for the bench right under the shower heads. Did I miss it? Looks like half of the water is on the bench.
I prefer to lay the sheeting "bottom up" so that the upper layers overlap, like you would tile a roof. So top edge is over lower pieces. Probably not needed but you never know. Cool, thanks for the video, lots of information here.
Overall, I'd say really good job! One thing you should have don't differently is one the floor drain, you should have installed the ring around the drain and then installed the membrane over top of it. It would be more "proper" for drainage. Kudos on having the patience to install so much of that small tile. Looks great though! 👍👍
Great video, I might have missed someone else’s comment, but never use PT lumber for framing when tile is going over it regardless of the waterproofing method you use. PT lumber moves a lot more than untreated lumber. Could comprise waterproofing and tile bond. If the right waterproofing method is used the wood would not be exposed to any moisture at all.
10:29 you said the waters turned on and no leaks, BUT, you need to cap the drop elbows and test those lines too. Home Depot sells these plastic things that screw into the drop elbows. Only then are you testing all your pex connections.
Great work. Can’t do anything like that myself but as a lifelong shower enjoyer, I have to ask. Why is the rainfall shower head blocked off by a ledge? How are you supposed to stand right under it? That’s the whole selling point of rainfall shower heads.
We renovated our whole bathroom and it took 2 months but only worked on the weekends, the amount of hiccups we ran into was insane, not to mention all the different connectors going from copper to pex
I did a similar shower if you want a step up from this shower I suggest delta hardware and Laticrete shower system. Laticrete is a bit hard to get your hands on (ie not in lowes or home depot) but the system imo looks more thought out. And delta is the ones who probably thought of the shower hardware that Amazon resellers ripped off and probably did a worse job at. I bought Amazon hardware returned it and got delta, the difference is amazing but the price tag makes you cry so.
*Things do differently Steam shower glass with vent. *Use solid material like engineered stone or porcelain with no grout or only grout lines that promote draining off Curb and bench areas. *Use epoxy grout *Put same ceiling slope on underside of bench *I would have sloped ceiling to the left away from bench instead of at the bench so all the cold water isn't running down that wall onto my bum lol and will better preserve the bench waterproofing and the lack of slope on underside of bench. *Most women hate rainhead only shower heads since they don't want to have to wash hair every time they shower *Caulk all change of planes not just along pan but all vertical corners, ceiling corners, bench, and niche area Things Not sure if you did or didn't *no ceramic tiles ever in steam shower only porcelain Waterproof thinset in shower as added barrier (same as pools) Exhaust fan just outside steam shower vent/door area
@@bg73 ceramic is porous vs the glaze of the porcelain which is not porous so you don't have the water permeating to back side. (my guess) I'm just DIYing my own 5bd 3ba house and not a professional.
29:24 You should also add in an estimate for your time. Because the 25k a contractor is giving you isn't just material. It's also labor. So comparing the two isn't the same thing.
@@justinstrouse1015 First off, Your time is NEVER free. And it isn't comparing the same thing. Because a contractor is including his time into his estimate.
I've always wondered, just what kind of maintenance do these American style wooden homes require? Ever since I saw a few in person, I'm not as anti as I used to be, but I still can't shake the concern that these are fancy temporary structures! Brick and concrete blocks are still king where I come from 16:31 Lol, you got me!
Wooden houses are built all around and there is nothing wrong in them if done correctly. Every style is bad if you dont do it right. The thing that I always wonder is the lack of ventilation to instantly dry shower after.
They can live quite long and take an amazing amount of abuse. I have a 1934 home on sand facing the Gulf of Mexico that won't fall down despite decades of neglect from prior owners (we plan to tear it down anyway). The problem with wood homes keeping them dry, because of mold. Especially if the insulation gets wet. But concrete has the same issue - cold concrete, warm inside = condensation behind walls. Termites are something to worry about, especially in attics. But wood homes are easier to fix and expand, and they heat and cool easier. Spray foam insulation today can turn them into superior energy efficient designs, compared to concrete. Will they survive centuries, like those little stone huts you all have in Europe? Nope. But the upside is we get to build new modern structures at least once a century. ;)
In the land of Sauna we never needed sloped ceilings. Maybe cause the real sauna is at 80'C and we ventilate for comfort and oxygen if its puukiuas (close transl. "woodstove"). Or because of harsh winters the houses are insulated well but have to be able to vent the moisture so they are built specially that in mind, some of these new element house blocks are notorious to grow mold in a year.
You asked for comments about what you should have done differently...the showered heads look like they need to extend out more. The bench is directly under them. How are you supposed to stand there and take a shower with that bench directly under the shower head? Shin banger for sure
I feel your pain with the opening dimension for the shower glass. I had the same and allowed myself a healthy tolerance which the glazing hardware would hide. Still was too tight and I had to remove finishes and re-do...and yes, I was sweary too!
Love seeing the process from start to finish, especially the mistakes made and the genuine feeling of frustration but also persevering through it all. Great work
15:51 One of my fav drain brands to use is FloFX, as they include everything need in their kits for installs (except grate) AND they work AWESOME and ON every shower drain floor system made, even adapts to kerdi and highly recommend over the kerdi drains, b/c not a fan of them (find the fleece kerdi uses on drains and that the drain flange is smooth on underside….well, let’s say there’s better ones out there that BOND so much better, imo of course as everyone has their own “favs” ✌🏻
Great job The fact that you needed cardboard to keep your knees from denting the schluter pan was exactly the reason I avoid the schluter system. It’s too soft. The Wedi or it’s Floor and Decor knock off is much stiffer I find I get better tile ashes soon.
Great project and realisation! Are not you hitting your legs on a bench when taking a shower and using the waterfall/rain-overhead? Seems that center of that shower waterfall is right above the bench's edge.
I bet you don't ever want to tear out tile/sheetrock again but if you do, a 2x4 makes an excellent lever to pull off big chucks so you don't have to use so much energy. Trick to find studs, magnets - I have purchased about 1" round magnets from HD and then I can find the screws easily. I haven't had it fail yet and I have flipped a few houses.
18:38 Good habit to get into: layout floor tile before thinset is placed on floor or do anything else. Than able to see where tile “lands” on drain, walls, curb, etc….and able to make adjustments so not making weird wonky cuts to your tile. Than can pull out (number them if want to) and start process of tiling. Method works for any size tile, and can do for walls as well. Really helps to visualize and “see” grout lines, and tile cuts. I’d also recommend porcelain tile for steam shower not ceramic; and definitely would use an epoxy grout, for this. Not as hard as ppl think, just park w/ clean water and small areas if just getting started; aka: don’t do anymore than arm can reach w/o actually “reaching by stretching”….cuz you’ll be in trouble in no time if never used epoxy grout before
love your videos bro even though im not a builder , as a father and husband i really love watching this type of videos. Obviuosly you also looks like having fun doing all of that. keep it up.
This is a great build! Personally, the only thing I would’ve done differently is to place the shower faucets differently, to allow users to rest their backs comfortably against the wall while sitting side by side. Question: what is the total weight capacity of that foam structure (bench)?
@@Tacompton425 thats, meh given it could be two people. Certainly owner plus wife that's fine here, but if your going to sell the house, you'd rather not have someone smash through the bench in the middle of showering because they are heavy or because the five year old kid ran in or something. I think you really need to be closer to 600-800 range. Frankly the problem was probably that he wanted to stay with the Kerdi foam when a different solution was needed.
Seems to me like the biggest mistake is that bench. How the hell do you stand under those showers heads? Honestly that’s a terrible layout. All the tile is awesome though.
i was thinking this as well. the normal shower head is fine, itll shoot over it. but the rain shower head can really only be used while sitting on the bench.
Loving the contrast between the gloomy intro and the beginning of the video full of enthusiasm and excitement. Showing mistakes is incredibly important as they happen to everybody. You earned a subscriber.
God bless ya man I HATE doing tile... haha. Nice work and end result! Here's one thing I noticed: I recommend putting insulation batts inside those walls since it's a steam shower. Best to keep that heat contained and prevent the condensation inside the walls (from the adjacent spaces) when the walls cool off.
I did a mini bathroom DIY the other day and I totally respect people who do their entire bathrooms I'm at the point where I'd hire someone, but at least now I know how shitty my apartment complex contractors are with what was going on with my sink if I could re-do the entire bathroom I would, but I'm like 98% positive I'd find mold and maybe termites.
I didn't quite understand what the "worst mistake he ever made" was? Is it that the ledge going around the bottom of the shower would be too high once the tiles were added??
it's not just cutting corners with some paint, most showers are built this way with the green board, thin set, tile... but all stone/tile products and grout are porous and over time (years, especially decades) there will always be mold and the green board will soak up until it can't anymore and become brittle and break apart causing structural issues.
Great project, but I can't seem to see why you would put a bench under the showerheads? I don't see another spot for them but seems like a weird location. Any particular reason? Awesome.
huge mistake .You need a special light fixture for a steam shower, as the room pressurizes with the steam and a regular can will allow steam( water) into the void above the drywall
@@scmile8359 bruh I had to put in a roof exhaust system because I assumed my electrician knew which can fan to install…wrong wrong pressure is a mf’er. The homeowner was more than happy to pay the cost after the mistake was addressed and informed on the solution. Warranty is king!
I agree. Looks nice alone but clashes with everything else. Honestly it looks like the wife got say on 70% of the bathroom and he got what he wanted in the shower for the 30% lol
Wouldn’t have been to start at the bottom and overlapped going up to the ceiling so any moisture would find it’s way down the wall to the drain without going between the barrier and drywall
for future reference should plumb all shower lines sized up if your using pex, lose alot of volume. next time you get a chance compare a copper pipe to a crimp pex fitting
@@xxbondsxx I don't know if this is true everywhere, but in California, building code requires the base plate of any wooden frame be PT wood as that will be the wood that will get the most moisture and therefore be most likely to rot if it wasn't PT.
I am old and have never had a shower ceiling that sloped... And I thought you werent supposed to use PTL inside a home? Like your style! Good videos. Thanks!
Absolutely great build! I just have one question. Why did you put the bench right below the shower heads? I’m sure there’s a reason I’m just not seeing it. Honestly just really curious.
I believe so it is just to sit there and let the water run over you. When i did my shower, i built the bench in the corner. I would have to hold the water hose over my head but i like this idea better
@@marineVaviator fair enough I was really just curious because I had never seen anything like that. When I built a shower for someone they had the bench on the opposite wall
@@scorpio6587 Shower seats/benches are often intended to be used while performing tasks like leg-shaving (either sitting on the bench or using it as a foot prop). In that case it's good to have the bench located so that the water doesn't wash off shaving products. With a shower hose option installed locating the bench under the standard head probably makes sense because you can easily sit under the water or switch the water to the hose when you don't.
Wow! I just got finished watching the finished product and it is excellent! I personally wouldn’t attempt anything like this after watching your mistakes, but I’m glad you did it because it came out great! Plus the price is ridiculous, I thought it was going to be $20,000.
My modification to watch this was because I want to make my shower a sauna like feature in it. This was a great insight on how to accomplish that. Thanks.
Great Shower! I was just wondering if you had considered waterproofing it with a liquid waterproof membrane over the joints. I'd be paranoid about leaks of any kind so I tend to go for a belt and braces approach. The tiles look fantastic too! Keep up the good work
I love it . I wish I can do hard projects but plumbing and electrical i think that’s were my fear comes from but hopefully one day I can face my fear and learn more about it . But love your channel you do good work!
Honest question. How come you didnt use cement board (Durock) for the inside of the shower? When I worked for a remodeling company anytime we remodeled a shower we would use cement board instead of drywall inside the shower
39 year, still on the tools every day tile setter here. I always insulate and vapor barrier first. If you steam every day I would definitely hang copper dissipating rods vertically through the middle of each joist space. You can use 1/2" copper water supply pipe. Use copper wire to balance them in the joist space. This is like putting a spoon in a cup of very hot water. It will keep the space a lower temperature so it will lesson the cavity from expanding.
KERDI does a good job with water, steam and vapor but I would definitely grout with Epoxy.
I always tell people a steam shower is like building a shower in outer space. It is not just steam. The space becomes pressurized.The vapor is much much smaller than a water or steam droplet.
I also recommend a few tips for keeping your shower performing for years.
Squeegee.
Always leave the door open when you finish, when applicable.
Always leave your bathroom door open afterward.
Leave a timed fan on for 20 or 20 minutes.
Consider a hydrostat up high in your bathroom. It can be set to automatically turn your fan on.
Open a window if applicable.
I still swear by construction style sloped bases using 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 drypack. This I would definitely leave to a long time pro. Liner underneath. Waterproof with Hydro-Ban on top after at least 2 full days of drying. Put a fan or even better a humidifier in the room and run it as long as you can stand it.
I use WEDI board exclusively. More money but I have had zero failures ever since it came out.
I also recommend running in floor heat so it can be continued under the liner in the shower. This will also help dry the space.
I will also heat the bench top if length of wire allows.
Kudos to everyone who does it their own way. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
I haven't had to fix a shower in well over 30 years
Last tip for your existing shower. Every 3 or 4 weeks or when cleaning it check for any cracking or missing grout. I takes 5 minutes. Over time this will be disastrous. Also do the same with silicone. Because I use epoxy only I don't need silicone. Silicone ofter has a hard time in steam showers. I do nothing but high end custom work and they pay a premium. I book an appointment a week later with the customer and I personally go over the grout and joints. The customer accompanies me and I instruct them what to look for. If they see some cracked or missing grout I will touch it up for nothing. If they are nice people it will away free for about 3 years. But that is only if they catch it fairly quick.
I have never left a comment before in the tile space. This was just to provide potential ideas for any future steam showers you attempt.
All great tips but you've been building showers alone since you were 9?? Lol
Are you saying you grout corners/changes of plane with epoxy grout? I've always avoided it, but then I've not done epxoy often.
Awesome book that gives you step-by-step photos ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt and directions to make every day project. I can see myself making a few of these projects and giving them as housewarming and holiday gifts!
As a tile setter. I recommend priming the walls of your shower first. Stops the drywall from wicking the moisture out of your thinset , when installing membranes
priming them with paint?
@@thesparks613 PVA primer
Also as a tile setter running a flood test for 24hrs should be done as for drilling into your waterproofing membrane and not using kerdifix or even a schluter channel so your glass sits in and there is no screws lastly looks like you used 1/4 notch trowel for your kerdi drain membrane always use kerdi trowel when using kerdi !… wouldn’t be surprised if this was to fail watch more schluter videos or attend there courses all over
When using kerdi, only giving the drywall a drink of water is necessary by wiping down with a damp sponge. Also, the "green" drywall is not necessary if you are properly installing the schluter system. I also cringed every time you drilled through the waterproof system and didnt waterproof the holes you drilled. I hope it doesnt fail.
@@thesparks613 Nooo. Do not prime with paint or PVA. There is a specific primer that reduces surface porosity, in the UK I use BAL all in one plus primer. You can also use it as an admixture for tile adhesive and grout which is awesome in shower areas. HOWEVER, personally, I would not use plasterboard in showers and especially not in a steam room. I would use a synthetic tile backer board. They are waterproof, light and so easy to work with. With the cost inflation of plasterboard, there also isn't much difference in the cost.
Showing your mistakes makes it all the better! The way you showed the anger is relatable to what all of us go through lol Great build 🤙🏾
Amen to this
And helps home owners see the problems when they are told "trust me" and yet you showed along with plumbers and tilers and gc's stating the old way doesnt last or worse cut corners and 5 yrs down the road no reprocutions
Real deal is by far a lot better than seeing all these fake dudes showing how smooth and easy everything is, while it really isn't...
i'm in the middle of repainting our kitchen cabinets and ahve had like 4-5 of these angry moments with mistakes lol... lessons learned. In the end, we're better DIYers and homeowners for making these mistakes and as long as we fix them and do it right the 2nd or third time, everything's fine. Just more time spent on it is all. I've still gotta put the bottom cabinets back together and get the top started. What might've been a two week project suddenly turned into a two month project more than likely.
We all feel his pain. No job goes without problems, even for the professionals. But even knowing this I still get MAD with myself when I mess up!! This is a great finished product
As someone just getting into DIY - it is really nice to see that even someone with your experience can make mistakes too. Thanks for leaving it in and not editing it out like many would.
Professional bath and kitchen guy here, thankd for your honesty and thourough process. I commend you on showing the failures and hard times, you're great at this. Also, those contractors were really on the premium side and should have done an immaculate jobe in a week for that price.
I like the fact that he’s not that good at this stuff and he still shows the video because it’s very encouraging for everybody. Keep up the work, you just got a new subscriber.
Man, I love your channel. I love your mistakes and how you don't hide from them. Truly one of the best channels on youtube. Thank you, and I am always excited to see more.
Here is some feedback from me, a tradesman, and what I would have done differently. In any wet areas I use a synthetic tile-backer board. You don't need to use a system over top of it so it saves hassle, time and money overall. Control valves at the side of the shower so you can turn the shower on without getting wet and less likely to get moisture behind it. That aside, outstanding finish! Love it.
you talking about a hardibacker?
so you Just Put Boards on the framing and waterproof the connecting Points? does that mean you dont need any drywall? you can Put tiles directly on the Boards?
@@rolikasbam2569 either actually. There is a thin board that can be adhered to dry wall. Or a board which is the same thickness as drywall that you fix directly to framing and can tile straight on to.
I’m tad dumb…but prefer hardware stores to clothes stores….don’t you need vent to outside? Isn’t that why you get mould? When I was in UK….well it seems windows in bathtub/shower vent….yep there was mould….
@@paulineverriere8054 yes, but not only that. Ventilation is a massive factor, but so is insulation. You get mould wherever water pools, so if you get lots of condensation, especially on cold surfaces, you get mould. To combat that you can make the surfaces warmer and improve ventilation. This is exactly what I did on my own property which had a horrible mould problem. Also, using a squeegee after showering make a surprising difference.
Hey there, plumber here. When you do your shower arms and anything that is going into the 1/2” fip fittings through the tile and drywall, put a 6” brass nip and a cap inside of it temporality until you put your fixtures in it. That protects the water lines and won’t allow any sediment to get inside. Otherwise great work!🎉
I remember seeing the promo for this video months ago on UA-cam shorts and was wigging out that I’d missed the full upload, but seeing all the challenges you had with delivery and structural issues makes sense now.
As for that tile demo, takes me back to my last laundry demo and my most used tool on that project was a rotary hammer drill and a chisel bit. Certainly took the sweat component out of it, leaving me with 100% courage to do that project in a week!
As a drywaller id had to remove plenty of moldy greenboard and we use something called tilebacker which is fiberglass sheetrock which is water resistant and way better mold resitant than greenboard which is really just the paper on the board that helps the with the mold not the actual drywall plus all you need to do is just redguard or whatever the joints not the whole thing
I loved that you didn't show the final product until the end of the video. It builds anticipation for viewers and increases viewer retention. Excellent job with the bathroom!
I personally like to skip ahead to the final product to see if its worth watching until the end.
A tip from an ex shower door installer. Add a dab of silicone in the holes you drilled on the sill before screwing in the mounting brackets!
absolutely. All the waterproofing working and then you are drilling holes in it.
Wow! Awesome job. I can't believe this, plus the other upgrades, would have made this a 35k+ bathroom remodel if it was done by a contractor. That's nuts. Way to save money.
My only add would have been a shower light with a built in vent fan. They look just like a normal can light but when you're done you just hit the switch and draw all of that moisture out.
did my bathroom myself a year ago, glad to see guys better than me have screw ups and the frustration so I know I'm not the only one. I also lost it at the part of "drywall stud or waterline" HA yup.
I'm sure you're aware of Isaac's Tile Coach channel - I've learned so much about the bad tile work that people do and what can be done to avoid problems in the future. He's covered a few of the problems you experienced.
The shower really looks great. I love the dark color and the light-colored fixtures.
We all run into dilemmas in home improvement projects...thanks for not editing yours out!! We all feel your frustration. In the end, as always, you did an amazing job!!
i like how you do it. It's natural to get angry or upset when you run into trouble. fun to watch.
Hey Dude, not sure if someone has commented this before - if you want to speed one process up - rather than using drywall for the ceiling, i've used kerdi-board for the shower ceiling, rather than fighting the drywall overhead, as well its already pre-waterproofed, just need to seal the corners. Cost difference vs time/material is minimal or if anything you'll save time which is money in your pocket if priced appropriately. Good Luck
Go board even better…
I’m a General Contractor and love the Kerdi system; installed a lot of showers with this system. I have now switched to Kerdi board vs using the membrane system…saves a lot on time but cost more in materials. For the DIY person the Kerdi board also takes out a few of the steps that can cause issues as shown in this video. Watch the official manufacturers videos for install methods and call their tech support if you have questions, they are very helpful.
Being from Austria where every house is made of brick and mortar or cement, I envy you for the flexibility that you get with the American way of building walls.You may have more issues with Sound proofing or insulation but changing the Layout of a room is so much easier.
Same goes for Denmark ! You are pretty much set with layout of the house you have bought, or make major renovations.
@@Pilotfarmand Tell me about it. Bought a house from the 30's and I want to renovate the bathroom. I'll literally need sticks of dynamite to tear that shit down :O(
@@innominatum9906 Same thing with my house, renovate it would cost lots in demolitions. Basically they said to me "You'll spend less in demolishing it all and rebuild it from zero". Bricks and mortar/concrete sucks :D
@@ShinLeeChan It REALLY do suck =D
@@Pilotfarmand The downside is that American houses are pretty much designed to fail. They won't last nearly as long. This is how America fosters consumerism. I'd like to see that shower after 10 years.
man the honesty and humility you show is very humbling. I'm definitely a fan!
Man, LOVE all the editing you do -- it looks like you have fun doing, too, and it makes the video more interesting and amusing to watch. Good job, not only the shower but the whole deal. You're an entertainer!
Use a tooth brush to clean out grout lines as you go to prevent the timely process of cleaning them out after the thinset dries
For sure cleaning the grout lines after Install is super important cleaning after its dry could damage the kerdi as well.
I love how real you are. Aside from the parts that went right, this looks like most of my DIY jobs.
I’ve never seen you dabble in click bait before. Honestly, you don’t need it. Keep grinding
I honestly didn't think you could top that giant shower you did in your last house. But I was wrong. It came out looking great. 👏👏👏
🤬 You're a Beast! Much respect, this project was challenging to watch, nevermind you doing the actual work! Came out fantastic!
Awesome video! Really cool to see someone with basic tile experience tackle a project like this ! Only critique i have is the niche shelf. I hate how thick schluter shelves are. I prefer either ripping it down, using a small slab of stone, or using the field tile if it is large enough. Amazing video!
My god, my shoulders hurt watching you tile that ceiling. Great job pushing through all of it.
That's a great build. Justs wondering the reason for the bench right under the shower heads. Did I miss it? Looks like half of the water is on the bench.
I like the way everytime he's ripping off the wall he takes a deep breath in. MMM i love me some dry wall in the morning.
Just a heads up about the audio on the ad!
Always convert your audio to mono if it's voice! No need to keep it in stereo
I prefer to lay the sheeting "bottom up" so that the upper layers overlap, like you would tile a roof. So top edge is over lower pieces. Probably not needed but you never know. Cool, thanks for the video, lots of information here.
Overall, I'd say really good job! One thing you should have don't differently is one the floor drain, you should have installed the ring around the drain and then installed the membrane over top of it. It would be more "proper" for drainage. Kudos on having the patience to install so much of that small tile. Looks great though! 👍👍
Great video, I might have missed someone else’s comment, but never use PT lumber for framing when tile is going over it regardless of the waterproofing method you use.
PT lumber moves a lot more than untreated lumber.
Could comprise waterproofing and tile bond.
If the right waterproofing method is used the wood would not be exposed to any moisture at all.
I had a deck rip itself off a house one time because a pressure treated post turned into a banana as it dried.
10:29 you said the waters turned on and no leaks, BUT, you need to cap the drop elbows and test those lines too. Home Depot sells these plastic things that screw into the drop elbows. Only then are you testing all your pex connections.
Do you have a link?
"I feel like I'm disarming a bomb here" *heavy breathing* if you close your eyes and listen it sounds like it's out of a 90s spy movie 😂
Great work. Can’t do anything like that myself but as a lifelong shower enjoyer, I have to ask. Why is the rainfall shower head blocked off by a ledge? How are you supposed to stand right under it? That’s the whole selling point of rainfall shower heads.
dont understand that aswell, tbh.. the final result looks rushed and not really useful
I think the rain heads are positioned for someone to sit down under them, lean back...and smack into the control handles. Ouch.
I’ve read through the comments and you get a hard time, looks great, looks appropriate build and will last. Thank you!!
I would have used a larger size tile for the walls. The smaller tiles are a bit too busy imo. But it looks great otherwise!
i dont know much about remodeling, but i like this guy and like the channel, good vibe here
We renovated our whole bathroom and it took 2 months but only worked on the weekends, the amount of hiccups we ran into was insane, not to mention all the different connectors going from copper to pex
that bathroom alone added like 50k to 100k to house networth. GJ !!
I did a similar shower if you want a step up from this shower I suggest delta hardware and Laticrete shower system. Laticrete is a bit hard to get your hands on (ie not in lowes or home depot) but the system imo looks more thought out. And delta is the ones who probably thought of the shower hardware that Amazon resellers ripped off and probably did a worse job at. I bought Amazon hardware returned it and got delta, the difference is amazing but the price tag makes you cry so.
Clicked the vid to support a fellow re-diyer. We learn with every mistake. In building it just costs a lot.
*Things do differently Steam shower glass with vent.
*Use solid material like engineered stone or porcelain with no grout or only grout lines that promote draining off Curb and bench areas.
*Use epoxy grout
*Put same ceiling slope on underside of bench
*I would have sloped ceiling to the left away from bench instead of at the bench so all the cold water isn't running down that wall onto my bum lol and will better preserve the bench waterproofing and the lack of slope on underside of bench.
*Most women hate rainhead only shower heads since they don't want to have to wash hair every time they shower
*Caulk all change of planes not just along pan but all vertical corners, ceiling corners, bench, and niche area
Things Not sure if you did or didn't
*no ceramic tiles ever in steam shower only porcelain
Waterproof thinset in shower as added barrier (same as pools)
Exhaust fan just outside steam shower vent/door area
I like the concern for venting. Always have an exit strategy for the humidity once done with the steam shower.
You must be a tile guy like me....
"no ceramic tiles ever in steam shower only porcelain"... please explain this for people like me that don't know why?
@@bg73 ceramic is porous vs the glaze of the porcelain which is not porous so you don't have the water permeating to back side. (my guess) I'm just DIYing my own 5bd 3ba house and not a professional.
What's even more amazing is he said he has a friend who is a tile guy and even he didn't make sure he got the correct tile.
16:37 "Hey Schluter is made in Germany!" - (3ft from him: Schluter-Home, Made in Canada)... :D
29:24 You should also add in an estimate for your time. Because the 25k a contractor is giving you isn't just material. It's also labor. So comparing the two isn't the same thing.
but his time didn't cost him any dollar amount so its irrelevant when comparing a dollar figure
@@justinstrouse1015 First off, Your time is NEVER free. And it isn't comparing the same thing. Because a contractor is including his time into his estimate.
Also didn’t include price of tile. Most people wont get sponsored tiles for free so its dumb to not consider it.
The moment he said, "I tell you hWhat" I instantly Subscribed.
I've always wondered, just what kind of maintenance do these American style wooden homes require? Ever since I saw a few in person, I'm not as anti as I used to be, but I still can't shake the concern that these are fancy temporary structures! Brick and concrete blocks are still king where I come from
16:31 Lol, you got me!
concrete holds moisture too! it just has diff effects
Wooden houses are built all around and there is nothing wrong in them if done correctly. Every style is bad if you dont do it right. The thing that I always wonder is the lack of ventilation to instantly dry shower after.
If built properly, very little
They can live quite long and take an amazing amount of abuse. I have a 1934 home on sand facing the Gulf of Mexico that won't fall down despite decades of neglect from prior owners (we plan to tear it down anyway). The problem with wood homes keeping them dry, because of mold. Especially if the insulation gets wet. But concrete has the same issue - cold concrete, warm inside = condensation behind walls. Termites are something to worry about, especially in attics. But wood homes are easier to fix and expand, and they heat and cool easier. Spray foam insulation today can turn them into superior energy efficient designs, compared to concrete.
Will they survive centuries, like those little stone huts you all have in Europe? Nope. But the upside is we get to build new modern structures at least once a century. ;)
In the land of Sauna we never needed sloped ceilings.
Maybe cause the real sauna is at 80'C and we ventilate for comfort and oxygen if its puukiuas (close transl. "woodstove").
Or because of harsh winters the houses are insulated well but have to be able to vent the moisture so they are built specially that in mind, some of these new element house blocks are notorious to grow mold in a year.
You asked for comments about what you should have done differently...the showered heads look like they need to extend out more. The bench is directly under them. How are you supposed to stand there and take a shower with that bench directly under the shower head? Shin banger for sure
When cutting that floor you can also make a template out of cardboard strips, makes it way easier
I feel your pain with the opening dimension for the shower glass. I had the same and allowed myself a healthy tolerance which the glazing hardware would hide. Still was too tight and I had to remove finishes and re-do...and yes, I was sweary too!
Love seeing the process from start to finish, especially the mistakes made and the genuine feeling of frustration but also persevering through it all. Great work
15:51 One of my fav drain brands to use is FloFX, as they include everything need in their kits for installs (except grate) AND they work AWESOME and ON every shower drain floor system made, even adapts to kerdi and highly recommend over the kerdi drains, b/c not a fan of them (find the fleece kerdi uses on drains and that the drain flange is smooth on underside….well, let’s say there’s better ones out there that BOND so much better, imo of course as everyone has their own “favs”
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Great job
The fact that you needed cardboard to keep your knees from denting the schluter pan was exactly the reason I avoid the schluter system. It’s too soft. The Wedi or it’s Floor and Decor knock off is much stiffer I find I get better tile ashes soon.
Great project and realisation! Are not you hitting your legs on a bench when taking a shower and using the waterfall/rain-overhead? Seems that center of that shower waterfall is right above the bench's edge.
I bet you don't ever want to tear out tile/sheetrock again but if you do, a 2x4 makes an excellent lever to pull off big chucks so you don't have to use so much energy.
Trick to find studs, magnets - I have purchased about 1" round magnets from HD and then I can find the screws easily. I haven't had it fail yet and I have flipped a few houses.
Just FYI, the part where you talk about the pillows is muted.
i appreciate how he drops in helpful tips as he goes.
18:38 Good habit to get into: layout floor tile before thinset is placed on floor or do anything else. Than able to see where tile “lands” on drain, walls, curb, etc….and able to make adjustments so not making weird wonky cuts to your tile. Than can pull out (number them if want to) and start process of tiling. Method works for any size tile, and can do for walls as well. Really helps to visualize and “see” grout lines, and tile cuts.
I’d also recommend porcelain tile for steam shower not ceramic; and definitely would use an epoxy grout, for this. Not as hard as ppl think, just park w/ clean water and small areas if just getting started; aka: don’t do anymore than arm can reach w/o actually “reaching by stretching”….cuz you’ll be in trouble in no time if never used epoxy grout before
love your videos bro even though im not a builder , as a father and husband i really love watching this type of videos. Obviuosly you also looks like having fun doing all of that. keep it up.
This is a great build! Personally, the only thing I would’ve done differently is to place the shower faucets differently, to allow users to rest their backs comfortably against the wall while sitting side by side.
Question: what is the total weight capacity of that foam structure (bench)?
Kerdi foam bench claims up to 400lbs
@@Tacompton425 thats, meh given it could be two people. Certainly owner plus wife that's fine here, but if your going to sell the house, you'd rather not have someone smash through the bench in the middle of showering because they are heavy or because the five year old kid ran in or something.
I think you really need to be closer to 600-800 range. Frankly the problem was probably that he wanted to stay with the Kerdi foam when a different solution was needed.
@@sparkzbarca he did put extra reinforcement in it with those metal rails. If they claim 400 I could see it being a lot more than that
Wow! Great job! That’s gonna be so relaxing to chill in!
Seems to me like the biggest mistake is that bench. How the hell do you stand under those showers heads? Honestly that’s a terrible layout. All the tile is awesome though.
i was thinking this as well. the normal shower head is fine, itll shoot over it. but the rain shower head can really only be used while sitting on the bench.
It looks like the shower heads move freely though
Ever thought the 2 person shower maybe be more interesting with a bench in it???🤭😍
I agree but it's his freakin shower not yours
Using the steam: you want to sit and relax! Multi functions, great job!
I was not under the impression that pressure treated wood needed to be in a framed up shower… water shouldn’t be getting to the frame.
rubber membrane was suppose to hold water unless its code on his state....
Rubber membrane not needed as he used the schluter waterproof system.
Looks good. That tile is really dark though. Good thing you have that glass.
Loving the contrast between the gloomy intro and the beginning of the video full of enthusiasm and excitement. Showing mistakes is incredibly important as they happen to everybody. You earned a subscriber.
Subscribed too. ❤
dude, that's an amazing shower, but honestly, how often do you take a steam shower? :) regardless, it looks sweet, and is huge!
Prime example of, do it yourself. Thank you for this video
God bless ya man I HATE doing tile... haha. Nice work and end result! Here's one thing I noticed: I recommend putting insulation batts inside those walls since it's a steam shower. Best to keep that heat contained and prevent the condensation inside the walls (from the adjacent spaces) when the walls cool off.
I did a mini bathroom DIY the other day and I totally respect people who do their entire bathrooms I'm at the point where I'd hire someone, but at least now I know how shitty my apartment complex contractors are with what was going on with my sink if I could re-do the entire bathroom I would, but I'm like 98% positive I'd find mold and maybe termites.
Anyone else laugh when he said " it is crazy!!!" 😂😂😂
I didn't quite understand what the "worst mistake he ever made" was? Is it that the ledge going around the bottom of the shower would be too high once the tiles were added??
it's not just cutting corners with some paint, most showers are built this way with the green board, thin set, tile... but all stone/tile products and grout are porous and over time (years, especially decades) there will always be mold and the green board will soak up until it can't anymore and become brittle and break apart causing structural issues.
Great project, but I can't seem to see why you would put a bench under the showerheads? I don't see another spot for them but seems like a weird location. Any particular reason? Awesome.
I thought that also but he installed a head to the right of them.
I use cement board and redguard. Shower pans whenever possible. Never had a call back for a leak.
huge mistake .You need a special light fixture for a steam shower, as the room pressurizes with the steam and a regular can will allow steam( water) into the void above the drywall
he showed the lens with a gasket that's shower rated
@@scmile8359 bruh I had to put in a roof exhaust system because I assumed my electrician knew which can fan to install…wrong wrong pressure is a mf’er. The homeowner was more than happy to pay the cost after the mistake was addressed and informed on the solution. Warranty is king!
@@scmile8359 But not steam shoer rated
The back cover of the right shower would tilt me so hard, but overall nice looking bathroom. Would copy that wash basin, looks sick
the all dark tiles really clash with the color scheme and vibe of the rest of the bathroom imo
I agree. Looks nice alone but clashes with everything else. Honestly it looks like the wife got say on 70% of the bathroom and he got what he wanted in the shower for the 30% lol
Add some hue lights next time so you can set an ambiance for your chill steam time
Wouldn’t have been to start at the bottom and overlapped going up to the ceiling so any moisture would find it’s way down the wall to the drain without going between the barrier and drywall
Believe it or not schluter doesn’t require you to shingle-lap the seams. If installed right water doesn’t go that far into the seams.
for future reference should plumb all shower lines sized up if your using pex, lose alot of volume. next time you get a chance compare a copper pipe to a crimp pex fitting
Definitely shouldn’t use PT for shower or interior due to drying out and they will twist and bend and will crack the tiles or sheetrock.
Also they bleed pt... which is why a minimum of one year installed outdoors is a minimum requirement before painting pt
Agreed! Also it doesn’t seem like he knows the difference between mold and wood rot
Yeah I've never seen PT lumber indoors, is there any application for it?
I have used KDAT which is PT wood which is kiln dried after treatment to frame in Windows and door jambs but will never use wet PT wood indoors.
@@xxbondsxx I don't know if this is true everywhere, but in California, building code requires the base plate of any wooden frame be PT wood as that will be the wood that will get the most moisture and therefore be most likely to rot if it wasn't PT.
I am old and have never had a shower ceiling that sloped... And I thought you werent supposed to use PTL inside a home? Like your style! Good videos. Thanks!
Why wouldn’t you use PT in a home? It is actually required if it is in contact with concrete, such as the sill plates for basement wall framing.
Absolutely great build! I just have one question. Why did you put the bench right below the shower heads? I’m sure there’s a reason I’m just not seeing it. Honestly just really curious.
I believe so it is just to sit there and let the water run over you. When i did my shower, i built the bench in the corner. I would have to hold the water hose over my head but i like this idea better
@@marineVaviator fair enough I was really just curious because I had never seen anything like that. When I built a shower for someone they had the bench on the opposite wall
@@srhoads1234 I have always wondered why benches are often away from the shower head. For me, I would prefer to have the water raining down on me.
@@scorpio6587 Shower seats/benches are often intended to be used while performing tasks like leg-shaving (either sitting on the bench or using it as a foot prop). In that case it's good to have the bench located so that the water doesn't wash off shaving products. With a shower hose option installed locating the bench under the standard head probably makes sense because you can easily sit under the water or switch the water to the hose when you don't.
@@dave7038 that makes sense
Wow! I just got finished watching the finished product and it is excellent! I personally wouldn’t attempt anything like this after watching your mistakes, but I’m glad you did it because it came out great! Plus the price is ridiculous, I thought it was going to be $20,000.
How does the steam escape when taking a regular shower ?
My modification to watch this was because I want to make my shower a sauna like feature in it. This was a great insight on how to accomplish that. Thanks.
That shower bench is hella sus.
Come one guys let's get *Mr Build it* to 1million subscribers
Great Shower! I was just wondering if you had considered waterproofing it with a liquid waterproof membrane over the joints. I'd be paranoid about leaks of any kind so I tend to go for a belt and braces approach. The tiles look fantastic too! Keep up the good work
That glass door/walls is looking real tidy with the gold hardware.
I love it . I wish I can do hard projects but plumbing and electrical i think that’s were my fear comes from but hopefully one day I can face my fear and learn more about it . But love your channel you do good work!
Honest question.
How come you didnt use cement board (Durock) for the inside of the shower?
When I worked for a remodeling company anytime we remodeled a shower we would use cement board instead of drywall inside the shower
Cement board is not necessary when using kerdi schluter system.
@@cynthapennington interesting, thanks!
I love it when advert audio doesn't get put in by accident. Haha no advert for me just generic dmca free music.