My First Ever Gaming Tournament
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Also I'm a total liar, my friend Mark just reminded me that I played in a Guildball tournament a couple years ago. That was likely my first tournament, but I forgot. Sorry!
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Ah fuck, I can't believe you've done this.
I miss Guildball tournaments!
says a lot about how memorable that tournament was LOL
Yep. Another banger.
Perhaps... Scott plays and attends tournaments: The series?
I'm down to try some more!
Du eet!
@@Miniac looking forward to more Song content from you, tournaments, painting, discussions ...
"PAINT MORE MINIS!" says the guy that played a tournament with unpainted minis haha. Thanks for sharing that experience, I've seen some war gaming tournaments at PAX unplugged and watching the sweaty try-hards there definitely turned me off to war gaming tournaments (to be fair I won one of the tournaments for the evolution board game because I became a sweaty try hard for that game when I heard there was going to be a tournament at PAX Unplugged). Hearing about your relaxed tournament experience definitely got me more curious to check out some local wargaming tournaments (and not feel like I have to be a sweaty try hard about it).
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In my experience local tournaments are really relaxed. I also have only played non GW games though
Imagine playing a tournament against the Miniac and not have Any of his insanely gorgeous painted miniatures to look at.... 😕
S E V E N Y E A R S S S S S S S S ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Hey Scott, thanks for sharing your love of ASOIAF. My friends and I were getting burnt out on our usual GW game and your content convinced us to try out ASOIAF. Now we are back to weekly game nights! Thanks.
To me a tournament that allowed unpainted figures would be a signal that it was going to be all about the winning. I'm glad you got the experience you were looking for
Well this certainly sparked some nostalgia hah, used to play 40k tournaments at the Games Workshop in Gurnee Mills Mall in the Chicagoland area in the late 90's and 2000 before moving away (Black Legion/ Khorne mix was my go-to). Was a good time, long days, but super fun.
Liking the stubble!!!! Keep it up Scott
Congratulations! Looking forward to following your ASOIAF journey!
I've played in a lot of local tounaments (the big 'uns are too far away), though the tournament scene has petered out recently, as has in-store gaming in general. Always had fun, but the most memorable had to be a 40k tournament at our FLGS. A friend and I decided to take identical armies, so after perusing our collections we decided on Eldar. I wrote up a backstory about twin farseers and made it general enough that it could go with either twin. We even wore matching GW t-shirts. The funniest thing that happened was that we played each other's first round opponents in the second round. Their dawning realization as we placed units was priceless! He went 3-0, while I got 1-2. I guess our lists matched his play style better. All in all it was a great experience!
I think next year when covid (should) be a lot better a lot of the local scenes should be getting back to normal
I second the vote for a tournament prepping and experience series.
The outro should have been ''and dont forget to PLAY your minies!!''
Cool to see wargaming making a comeback.
The genesis of DnD reborn.
I'm more of an OSR player, but like seeing this type of gameplay.
The stigma of sweaty buttcracks was definitely an opinion I had of tournaments and the players. Guess I’ll have to start poking around for local tournaments, thanks Scott!
Maybe the real sweaty buttcracks were the friends we made along the way?
I wouldn't mind getting into this game... the Wildlings are looking especially up my alley. :D I'm loving the emphasis you're putting on the game.
I’ve been wargaming for 25 years and this is my favorite. If you’re a wargamer and a fan of the books/show… you should definitely be playing it.
Now try an Infinity tournament! From my experience only GW/Privateer Press games had unpleasant tournaments... smaller communities just don't have the stamina for letting them exist; They either kill the community or they bounce out.
Honestly, I think tournaments and highly competitive play is detrimental to the enjoyment of the hobby. When people play with their friends or random strangers or clubs, they're often just playing for fun. I remember when I was young and we played magic the gathering in high school. This was back when magic was very very young. It was really fun, until I got to college, it was fun for a bit there too, but then everyone starting to get into fine tuned 2 turn stomp decks for competitive play. Gone were massive crazy theme fun decks. Playing became less about playing and more about your stats and you could see their disappointed when they didn't get the starting hand they wanted, and their minds would immediately go to tweaking the deck rather than enjoying the game in front of them.
The stereotype of a wargaming tournament being all extremely sweaty and serious tryhards who are there to win at all costs and not to make friends is just totally false in my experience. I've gone to so many tournaments across so many games for the past decades, and not once has this been my experience.
Everyone is there to just play a bunch of games that they love. Sure, they might be trying to win, but people are very rarely dicks about it.
Tournaments are great, and I think it is a shame that this perception is preventing people from playing in them.
As a newer player, I had this concern when looking for a DnD group. I found a great group and I can’t believe it took me so long to take the plunge. It’s been the same with board game groups. It’s worth trying. If it’s a really bad experience, you can always leave. On the other hand, you might discover a new enjoyable element of a hobby you already enjoy.
I'm getting some Stannis Baratheon minis for this game come Christmas, watching this for some tips and tricks, and your painting videos for...more tips and tricks. Keep up the good work, big guy.
Having just started to play AoS from painting, I jumped into my first tournament with my Soulblight just a couple of months ago. Best experience in a competitive setting. Local lists arent ultra competitive, and having had only 3 games played prior I felt I was going to be too slow and give my opponents a poor experience. Could not have been farther from the truth, as all 3 of my opponents were very relaxed and understanding, and although I only managed one victory I learned a ton and had so much fun. The interaction with other players, not just talking about the game you are playing but chit chatting was very enjoyable, and it felt more like a casual game than cutthroat gameplay. I would strongly recommend to anyone to participate at least in a local tournament of your game of choice. It should be a fun and rewarding experience
"No one was running a net list"*
*Except Curtis!
He did bring it, but I don't think he ever ran it
Why have we added a nose ring? I mean, is this some search for oneself? You’re not 21 any more sir. Get your suit and tie. 😂
Every time i go to a tournament i expect the tryhards to be there but i'm yet to find one. Last tournament I played in was an AoS doubles, i figured for hilarities sake i'd run a cities list with alarielle. to my suprise the other cities player in my area entirely without any discussion between us also turned up with an Alarielle list. everyone had the stuff they thought was cool and it was just over all super chill. can't wait for my locals next ASOIAF tourney, missed the last one by virture of not seeing your video that sold me on it yet but next time i'm definitely there.
You showed Conquest! At 7:58 , The knights in blue. The best game ever! 😀👍🏻
I play with my siblings. For me every game is a tournament.
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This is awesome, I've been a huge fan of the MESBG but no one in CT plays. Makes me wanna get into it. What are the cavalry models at 8 min in!? They look awesome and I cant find them on the webstore.
Oh my god that used to be my LGS but I just moved out of Minnesota two months ago. Dreamers Vault in Burnsville Minnesota.
Or “Burnville”, as Scott pronounced it at the end.
I don’t know if he just misspoke, or if we should mock him mercilessly for still not knowing that suburb’s name after living in the Twin Cities for so many years. 😆
I actually just had my first tournament about two weeks ago! I started playing 40k with friends back in 2020, but recently fell in love with the x-wing mini game (I think I’ve played 20ish games in the past month I’ve been playing) as I ended up trying it at my LGS.
I was lucky that everyone I’ve met so far has been super friendly in the local league, and totally willing to lend me a unit or card to try a combo out. I ended up going 2-2 which I was super happy with, as even in my losses I learned a significant amount. I met a bunch of cool people and learned about some more unique combos. I didn’t really expect to ever play tournament style but I honestly would recommend it to everyone at least once!
Your enthusiasm for Ice and Fire is a great advert, you’ve got me wanting to give it a try!
unpainted mini's shame shame shame on you
I've been playing in tournaments for the last ten years, haven't tried an ASOIAF event yet but I'm keen
My main system is Epic Armageddon, I've competed in 27 tournaments to date, including representing the UK in both the European and World Championship (in fact I'm a team member of the current reigning world champions)
I've even organised and run a couple of local tournaments
It's nothing like the try-hard, win at all costs events everyone is afraid of, and with a handful of warmachine events under my belt, I am starting to doubt the existence of such events... Overwhelmingly my experiences have been positive, win and lose.... I've made lifelong friends at tournaments, started friendly rivalries, won awards for best painted army, and had a great time. There have been a handful of games that my opponent has been a bit dodgy, but you can't let that sour the overall experience of tournament gaming.
I think the people who turn their noses up at competitive play are probably just aware that they aren't good players and are probably sore losers to boot..... There are few better experiences than testing your skills against like minded folks, and losing games teaches you lessons
Apologies for the essay!
Woop woop! Conquest at the 8th minute!
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INTRO!!! My long lost friend! I thought you had died! Forgive me for having such little faith that you would one day return! :P
Outro, I love you too...
I remember my first MtG tournament... I had a mono black removal deck and my oppo had a mono blue counter deck... maaan, it was a slow game! I won by doing 1 damage per turn just using the single festering goblin I played during the first turn!
A non “competitive” content creator for minis?!??! What madness is this! How dare you not play tournaments every weekend
I stumbled onto this video after recently acquiring the Starks vs. Lannister starter set and trying to figure out what to do with it, especially how to get it played (or whom I can sucker into learning it with me)... Anyway, I have no idea if tournaments are still happening in my city, but you've inspired me to go look for one. And you are hilarious! Subscribed, and now I shall go though your video list to find more things to watch :)
I used to be quite heavily into X-Wing before the power creep and relaunch with version 2.
The local scene was great with a real mix of player types, lists and for the most part really friendly. There was only one player that "net decked" at every tourney and he was an absolute jerk to play against. Deliberately mumbling his way through action declarations, being shady with token placement, and having some dubious movement template usage. Needless to say he was normally in the finals and was a joy drain to play against as you had to watch him like a hawk and call out all his crappy behaviours.
welcome to try hard town
Dreamers Vault is great! Now that I can get back out into the world again, that’s been my FLGS of choice! Tournaments NEED by rounds IMO for food and mental health breaks. My first tournament was at GenCon doing a new collectible miniatures game that didn’t last long called Dreamblade. It was a BRUTAL 8 rounds over 8 hours straight with no breaks. By the fifth round I just quit playing because I was so burned out, and I sold my miniatures at the Con and never played again. I don’t think my variety-craving adult ADHD brain can handle all-day tournaments regardless of the people types attending.
I went to gaming conventions back in the mid-80's (Suncoast Skirmishes -FL) and always had a great time. Back then there was a great variety of games, much like today. Kind of like GenCon, Adepticon and such. I've never attended a game-specific tournament though. Looking towards my first.
Hi Scott, at 8th minute you actually show Conquest: The Last Arguments of Kings Household Knights and Mercenary Crossbowman. Do you play it as well?
Just some random Conquest in there? Nice.
Is this means that Conquest calvary looks better than asoiaf : > - and this one was actually nicely painted!
@@losiul It's a matter of preference. Conquest have much larger miniatures (38mm vs. 32mm) but the individual bases are smaller, so the bigger models are packed tighter. I have painted models for both games and one doesn't stand out as significantly better in terms of quality.
I played at a LGS tourney back at the start of 8th edition 40k. I played 3 rounds and what I really like about it was the fact I got to play against 3 armies I had never played against before.
Imperial Guard, Space Wolves and Harlequins.
Everyone was super nice.
The Guard player won the event and crushed me game one. His list was very optimised and competitive unlike the majority of the players.
He was still very friendly though.
I think thats kinda sad that mostly people show warhammer games, when we have a lot of cool board games like Nemesis, Skytear, Runebouns etc. Thats why I think thats really nice that you show something new on youtube if we talking about miniature games 😁
Just had to make a shout out for my love of Skytear. Found this channel a year and a half ago to paint my Super Fantasy Brawl and Skytear minis.
@@Aquateenmitch very nice game 😀
A few years back I was part of a gaming club which met every saturday to play Flames of War in our local store. The store had a separate location for gaming, and we started organizing a tournamnet there. It was great fun, because we soon had a group of regulars who'd come twice a year. Games were mostly friendly, many gentleman gamers. I'd play a tournament likee that again in a heartbeat, but I do not think I would like a highly competitive tournament.
Joining local tournaments and GTs is a huge motivation for me to paint my armies. Lots of joy to see my army performs, lots of grief when they die though lol
Edit: I really urge people to join local tournaments. Our LGS is doing a food drive tournament and that's a huge plus for me. Sometimes local tournaments are simply to step away from my daily routines and to roll some dice.
Grand tournaments are fun too. Definitely way more stressful. Not for everyone but anyone should experience it at least once.
The important part is to have fun. You'll encounter NPE players out there, no doubt. But you'll also find people who's running meme list and had more fun than anyone else there.
I'm from the Twin Cities and always like popping into game stores I pass. Even if I don't really need anything. This video I was like, "ooh! I bought some washes there!"
I play "competitive" starcraft brood war, an RTS from 1998. I play in a closed channel, invite only. We don't exclude based off of elitism in regards to skill level, you simply have to be competent. Casual try hard would be a good description as well. We do exclude based off of personality. Were all a bunch of 30 something year old players and we aren't interested in trash talk for mistakes.
There is something to be said about the invite only only closed groups. The players make the game just as much as the rules/mechanics do and that even holds true in a video game.
Only tournament I played in was in like 1997 and for battle tech when I was a kid. I probably would play in a small tournament like you did for 40k some day if I coukd get some games in before.
I’ve done a few 40K tourneys, AoS, and A song of ice and fire and I’ve only had one shitty opponent.
The ironic thing is he brought a fluffy list that had no chance of winning so I assumed he would be laid back. He ended up being super salty and argued with me over literally everything.
You should have visited Chicago last month for the Chaos Cup. There is no greater tournament community than Blood Bowl. This year's Chaos Cup had 110 teams. The World Cup in Dornbirn, Austria, had almost 1500 teams! It was GLORIOUS!
A note on "net lists". Just because someone is using such a list does not mean they know how to pilot it.
I have seen similar things in various games I have played (M: tG, WHF, WM/H, etc). Any list is only as good as the player using it.
The right sort of competitions are a lot of fun and worth anyone playing, the wrong sort give you much the same feeling as self-circumcision, best avoided! I love the look of this game though, if I had opponents in the Scottish Borders i'd be all over it! As it is i'll be a slavering spectator as any purchases would just sit in my lead/plastic pile of shame. :(
Really like this video. I would like to hear about how the next tournament goes. Maybe even ask some of the other players a few questions.
7th Ed Kill team at WHW. Won one and lost two. However the guy cheated in my last game. Played a few since. But mainly play 30k events.
given how long some of these games take to play - im surprised tournaments are a viable event.
Imagine MTG tournaments with 45min games.
I played in a Warmachine tournament, played 10 points down because I refused to play with my unpainted models (personal chose), and I came in second place. Lots of fun!
I won my first (and only, so far) tournament (it was a super small semi casual), the prize was a 15 euro gift card to the store that organized it. The gift card said that it is valid until the end of time and I still have it. That was 15 years ago. Sometimes when I stumble upon it I think it would be funny to go use it and see their reactions. Maybe I need to give it some more time.
Going to my first 40 tournament on Nov20th. Played in a lot of Magic tournaments back in the day but I am still nervous yet excited for this
I've been to a smattering of Tournaments over the years with a wide spectrum of characters. I'm extremely wary to enter any tournaments. My outlook on Tabletop gaming is that all of these people have dropped so much time and money on this game, took the time to paint up their models, let's have a good time. I can crank up my gaming to various degrees of Tryhard Sweaty if that's what my opponent wants but I don't start at that level.
Funny how now I am grown-up friends and play games with the poor ex-GW staff who probably used to babysit me for minimum wage while my parents went shopping for a few hours.
I try a pregame with 40k a friend and I play, he completely dominated so I had no fun so I just paint minis. Tournaments are something I stay away from
Is there anyway you could post some battlereps of this on your channel? Love seeing games I haven’t played be played by personalities I enjoy!
I've never played any game against someone who isn't friend or family, never played a game at a local shop or tournament. I'm not sure I'd want to play tournaments, but I'd be game for shop games, just need to actually get an army together, I buy models/units I like rather than all required for one army
I know a couple of 40K players who have been tabled (wiped of the table by turn 3 lists) at tournaments and have never gone back to paly those list are great if all your playing is tournament play but if you there just for fun it's a big turn off.
Tournaments are good experience 😁
I remember when we went for Underworlds tournament, in Netherlands. In my Renault Laguna...without heating during winter time 😅
For me I wish I had done small tournaments. It was either Warmachine 2nd edition or magic the gathering tournaments. They were exhausting and I got burnt out. As I got older more narrative driven wargaming I enjoy more.
SLAY THE GREY! lol, you fielding an unpainted army is sooo off-brand
I have never played any of the games that go with the mini's I paint. There aren't a lot of LGS's around here and the ones I looked up had questionable reputations. I enjoy painting mini's but it would be cool to play a game and use my painted mini's at some time.
My first tournament was playing legion, I was really nervous about it but it turned out to be mostly me and my friend's which really helped calm them nerves
I also recently have gotten into ASOIAF, I partially blame you, and am looking forward to getting to try a tournament some time. Now if only we could get a ASOIAF stuff easier in Canada (I have no idea when I'll actually be able to buy the card updates here. I'd love to see your lists!
Nice Video. Sometimes just go to a tournament, it's a lot of fun, important is to manage your own expectations :)
I definitely haven't arrived at Magic Opens and Regionals and immediately gone to the vendors to buy the rest of my deck and some sleeves. No sir, not me.
I know I know ... but WTF. Most of the armies in this tournament not painted. Why do we even bother :)
Been lookong to jump into this game and got some.friends who are going to.teach me eventually too. Once I do, I may have to.come.join your tournament to share in the fun :)
I've only painted minis so far.. I haven't even played a game yet. I know the rules and how to play. Its just that none of my friends are into 40k, and I'm still on the fence about going to a local store to play.. I guess this is the sign that I need to just get going and do it.
Lol! The "buttcracks every" line got me. I about died laughing.
Tournaments can be great or terrible. You never know if the opponent will be nice or a total jerk. Usually they are nice.
My husband said I can't go to any tournaments or war gaming events or game stores and watch without him. Too many guys I guess lol :( This helps I guess me not get into buying more minis :D
Not gonna lie, I have only ever seen you from the direct on shot. From other angles you are a more handsome dude than I initially gave you credit for. This is from a completely straight guy.
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I actually went to my very first tournament at a local store a few weeks ago, after 20 years in the hobby. Was similar to your experience, small scale and friendly with no real try Garda (except for this one AdMech player 🙄)
Great video, loved the chill vibe
Curtis, Jesus loves you and in Him you can have victory and a knowledge of your true identity and value to Him. Never again will you have to worry about your confidence or lack thereof :)
I tried Star Wars Legion and all my opponents played net lists. I was quickly defeated and ended up losing interest after many games. I still paint the minis and might play some time in the future.
I want to get into some tournaments but my big problem is that I am in Europe for work and depending on where the tourney is I don't know if we will have a language in common.
Never done a mini tournament but I did play in a MTG tournament when I was around 10 maybe. I lost in the first round to a dude that was in his 20's and he stomped me into the dirt to the point I never played in another tournament as he made it very unenjoyable.
I really wanna play ASOIF but here in Brasil this game is extremely expensive!
I don’t know about y’all but the reason I am reluctant about going to a local tournament is because I am terrified of sweaty nerds.
Yo, Curtis, you a good dude. Keep that confidence-a buildin’
First tournament was 7th Edition Killteam. I brought 23 Kroot models, so I had the largest Killteam, but they died fast. They had an infiltrate ability so I would just not deploy any models until my opponent was set up then always counter deploy. The last game was against 3 Marine bikers. It got down to his Sgt and one kroot. My opponent charged and I declared overwatch with sniper rounds. I got a 6 to hit, followed by a 6 to wound and he failed his save. My 360 no scoped a Marine on a bike. Good times.
that is SO EPIC
Did you see the archvillian october release? its all vamps XD tho i guess its nov now...
If you enjoyed the tournament and wanted to learn a easy game you ever considered blood bowl you could easily paint a team up to enjoy your videos plus there bringing out dungeon bowl this year
I used to do weekly Friday night tournaments back in 5th ed 40k at a now no longer running flgs called realm of legends. then 6th ed came around and at the time I didn't have the money spare to spend a fortune on a new core rule book and marine codex so instead i just kept playing a hybrid version of the 5th with a mate of mine that took what I knew of 6th and added it to 5th, so yeah i stopped playing 40k there though at the same time that flgs had to give up the lease on the massive showroom they had and moved to a much more cramped store and i also didn't like the suburb they were based in (but then showing up to a station an hour after a guy got stabbed there isn't the nicest experience
Ninjon isn't really a ninja and I know you vomited twice and are normal human sized and not miniature. 🧏
You have lost weight. Good work. Glad you are enjoying this.
I got housed by phatasian in my first tournament. Been in therapy ever since.
Are you going to get the new vampire lady from GW out today? Great vid as always.
Always enjoy your ASOIAF content. Hope to see more of it!
How do you rate that Dreamers Vault Burnsville compared to the other 4?
I hate that shit IP. I hate the show. I hate the books. I hate the minis.
This video was pure joy.