1:05 Awesome video, as usual, congratulations, but, yes, you can do that with the AF 6! You can assign 2 switches for preset up and down, either by individual presets or by tens. It´s on page 52 of the manual, in case other owners want to try. The AF6 is a lot of fun, incredibly natural and organic sounds, I've had mine for a month, only, it makes me want to play more. Cheers from Brazil, and keep up your fantastic work here on YT.
Thanks for comparing these! It's pretty cool now that there are so many products that can give us good tones going direct. I remember the old Zoom 9000S. Good clean tones, but the crunchy tones left something to be desired, especially in comparison to then.
Man I really like your videos, thank you for this. A while ago I had an amplifire with 3 knobs, loved that thing. The playing didn't feel as organic, responsive and tube-like as my Axe FX 2 and the sound was not as rich but that electronic tight compression it had made it sound almost better, more powerful, tight and in your face. I went with the Fractal and sold the other but the choice was not that easy. The Atomic was so light, I could throw it in the air, 2 backflips and catch it back no problem. I made a comparison of them on my channel. On the waiting list for an FM3, very excited but I think fractal could find inspiration in Atomic's pedal format, that 6 and 12 combination is killer !
Yeah the fractal stuff is legit, sounds so much like a real amp. The atomic stuff is like an "idealised" version of those amps and definitely sounds amazing too. Can't wait for the FM3!
digital shill? LOL. Dude at the rate the industry pumps out these all in one units, and how many there are out there, its a sh*tload of consumer overload. With that, I'd rather say, Digital Informant. Someone who takes time out of their day to show me the goods in an honest manner is okay with me. thanks leon for what you do!
6 and 12.....but should have done the 3 as well! Since all computer-based and modeler, I'm sure there is no tonal difference in the 3, 6, or 12 if the settings are the same!!
I realize you're kidding! You're about the only guy who handles all approaches, as I've said before, indiscriminate. You want a MP1, through a Mesa amp, Vintage 30 up against a Marshall JCM, up against an Axe FX, up against an Amplifier, up against Bias FX? LEON TODD's the man for the job. Hell of a player too!
Stupid question: Its greatr to play with the Atomic 12 through headphones but taking it on stage (volume etc) after you have your presets already set seems to be a big challenge. Is there any way you could make a video on how to convert to stage volume etc after you sit on the computer and set yourt pedalboard up? Maybe also a video on the different ways to preset the pedals (AB) etc??
Hello, First, very informative and honest review/comparison video! Thank you for posting. Can you tell me if external dual foot pedal parameters can be stored for each saved preset on the unit? more specifically, 1 external pedal for gain control and 1 external pedal for volume? This very basic feature was lacking in the Line6 Live and is ONE of the reasons I got rid of it. Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.
Atomic Amps AmpliFire 6 & Morningstar MC6 vs Atomic Amps AmpliFire 12. The former will cost a bit more but would give you more options for different setup scenarios. Alternately paired with the Boss MS-3 which would add relay switching when mixing it with an analog amp/hybrid setup \m/
Hi Leon hey I know this is like 3 yrs ago but I like the 12 alot and wanted to see what you thought about these? I think it now has an update on software too
Most (if not all) of the videos for either of these units haven't really explored the expression pedal capabilities in relation to the unit's onboard wah, pitch shifting, and modulation effects. If the 6 were being used as the centerpiece of an existing pedalboard, those sorts of functions would be a big factor I think. What's been your experience using the expression functionality? #expressyourself
@@LeonTodd explore lots of different parameters with this if you do -- there used to be all sorts of bugs for me in trying to assign different parameters to expression from the computer editor and I was forced to always assign expression pedal control via hardware editor to know my assignment was going to actually hold. I think wah was fine, but I was working with some of the deeper delay parameters and...really buggy.
I’ve been thinking of switching from Helix to the Amplifire 6 simply because this unit is small enough to fit in my gig bag and I don’t drive. The only thing is...I have got very used to snapshots on Helix (seamless switching) what is the switching like on amplifire?
Hey Leon awesome video ! Just bought the Atomic Amp 12 and love it, but cant seem to figure out how to re amp with my apollo twin . Do you have any suggestions for that ?
@@LeonTodd hey Leon thanks for the reply ! I watched the video , sadly cant find a way to edit the main outputs individually on the atomic ( for example setting output 2 to input 1 ) Cant find anything on the net about this too, please let me know if you someday try it yourself . Thanks a lot again !
I've owned both. The simple comparison is the Atomic AA3 I had was like driving my girlfriends Ford Fiesta, perfectly acceptable and gets you where you need to be, but my AX8 is like my BMW 330 MSport. Does everything the AA3 did, but sooooo much better! The Fractal is just better: better amp tones, better effects, etc The Atomic is no slouch mind you, but there is a big difference to my ear in tone, quality and feel I ended up selling the AA3 and got a HX Stomp. Which itself is very good, and closer to the AX8, but still no-where near where i'd even consider parting with the Fractal If I saw an AA6 for sale at a good price I'd certainly get one as they're great handy units and I've improved my FRFR's now so I'm sure I might like it a bit better It depends what you want from the unit. The Fractal is twice the price and a big leap in complexity (Should you want to deep dive into tweaking). Some think they're on a comparable level. I didn't find that at all. But as a b/rig or backup to something like the AX8 the AA3/AA6 and HX Stomp are invaluable
@Linus I had mine up until the HX Stomp came out and I sold it to pay for the Stomp. The Stomp's a real useful little box, actually sat programming it right now for a gig where I dont want to take the AX8. With modern modellers I dont think you can go too wrong. They're all capable of great stuff. It just depends on what you want it to do soundwise and how well you set it up
I was just about to try to ask Leon for his opinion on this. I owned an AA3 for about 6 months, a couple of years ago. I thought it was 'okay.' But, it never *moved* me. When i hear people demoing the Amplifire on youtube, it sounds 'okay.' When i hear the fractals, it sounds 'like wow.' Something is just better/more exciting. I don't quite get it, because when there are direct comparisons between the two units, the differences are so slight, if they exist at all. I'm wondering more recently if it's a matter of the fractals having better delays and reverbs? And the actual amp models are what are almost even? So, might it be an even match to compare an Amplifire *plus* a couple of excellent reverb and delay pedals? I dunno. I'm about to spend twice the money on the AX8, but have been hoping for some rationalization to go back to the Amplifire. But when there are players who have both, they almost invariably save the Atomic for 'backup' duty to the Fractal. That has to mean something, no? Oh, yeah-i really, really, really need to nail the EVH Brown Sound. Thats why i won't even consider a Helix, and part of the reason why i didn't love the Amplifire. It just didn't do EVH nearly as well as what i've heard over and over from the Fractals. I had the AA3, and part of my dislike was the lack of footswitches. I just needed more. If i went back, it would be for the 6 or 12, and the other part of the appeal is that i just love the idea of having separate pedals. Went to Guitar Center the other day and the glass cases with all those beautiful devices was just so compelling. A more interesting approach than the 'one box' Fractal AX8. But, then i'd have to deal with the practical issues of Power, and cables, but still.... Pedals are cool.
I owned a Helix LT and I thought it sounded like garbage. I also had a Kemper for a week or so and I thought it sounded good but it's a bit of a rabbit hole finding the right profile. Im just trying to find the right thing for me. I am looking for something with good presets because im not much of a tweaker.
@@rccampbell460 Give Fractal a go. They're easy to set up and you can get really goof sounding presets for free from Leon off of AxeChange that are really useful
@@LeonTodd I think auto complete messed up my question - I meant to ask if it’s possible to hook the eventide H9 via sends and have it in Stereo rather then only mono? I’m using the 12…Thank for taking the time to reply
I know it aint as flexible but for me the tech 21 wipes the floor with this pedal. it sounded so harsh and digital that after 2 weeks I lost my nerve and sent it back. I have not regretted it for one minute. I really was shocked by how much I had grown to dislike it. Give me a tech 21 any day. Pity it has no presets though
Brett, I'm having a dilemma I would like to purchase a multi-effects unit .. could you possibly give me some advice! In your professional opinion the ISP Theta pro or the Atomic Amplifier 6 (12) ... I know the Helix and the boss gt-1000 are out there ... And I cannot afford a Fractal Ax8 ... Thank you!!
Too complicated for me. I'm an analog man. I've been playing for 35 years and i still plug the cables in backwards on my pedals. But it's fun to watch anyway. LOL
Leon. Please please please do a review of the 2 button Amplifier-box by these guys. Man, the more I hear their products the more I'm impressed, especially at the price. Cool stuff. You have turned me into a modeler guy. 😂 Seriously though. It just makes sense. I could never afford, store, upkeep, and take several amps and effects with me to a gig compared to these wonderful sound scape products. Just killer time to be playing guitar.. Really enjoy your channel sir. Can't thank you enough for all the value you bring to me as a guitar player and music lover.. Oh. If you've not heard of Gary Schutt. Check him out doing the keyboard song Frankenstein on guitar. It's so cool.. ua-cam.com/video/y-gEslkFnzo/v-deo.html
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1:05 Awesome video, as usual, congratulations, but, yes, you can do that with the AF 6! You can assign 2 switches for preset up and down, either by individual presets or by tens. It´s on page 52 of the manual, in case other owners want to try. The AF6 is a lot of fun, incredibly natural and organic sounds, I've had mine for a month, only, it makes me want to play more. Cheers from Brazil, and keep up your fantastic work here on YT.
100% on point Leon. Informative and instructive as usual. Thumbs up.
I run a Mooer Preamp Live with an HX Stomp. Same ideas as 3:35 - really flexible and great sounds.
Thanks for comparing these! It's pretty cool now that there are so many products that can give us good tones going direct. I remember the old Zoom 9000S. Good clean tones, but the crunchy tones left something to be desired, especially in comparison to then.
You got a subscriber here. I was torn between hx stomp and aa6 and you made solid points so I’m getting a 6. Love your videos brother !!!!!!
Why you choose the aa6?
Man I really like your videos, thank you for this. A while ago I had an amplifire with 3 knobs, loved that thing. The playing didn't feel as organic, responsive and tube-like as my Axe FX 2 and the sound was not as rich but that electronic tight compression it had made it sound almost better, more powerful, tight and in your face. I went with the Fractal and sold the other but the choice was not that easy. The Atomic was so light, I could throw it in the air, 2 backflips and catch it back no problem. I made a comparison of them on my channel. On the waiting list for an FM3, very excited but I think fractal could find inspiration in Atomic's pedal format, that 6 and 12 combination is killer !
Yeah the fractal stuff is legit, sounds so much like a real amp. The atomic stuff is like an "idealised" version of those amps and definitely sounds amazing too. Can't wait for the FM3!
@@LeonTodd Can the Amplifire be used as a midi footswitch ? It's the same price as the Fractal footswitch, I would rather buy an Atomic !
digital shill? LOL. Dude at the rate the industry pumps out these all in one units, and how many there are out there, its a sh*tload of consumer overload. With that, I'd rather say, Digital Informant. Someone who takes time out of their day to show me the goods in an honest manner is okay with me. thanks leon for what you do!
That has a much better ring to it!
6 and 12.....but should have done the 3 as well!
Since all computer-based and modeler, I'm sure there is no tonal difference in the 3, 6, or 12 if the settings are the same!!
Hi Leonn, in 2023 would you recommend getting any of these?
I realize you're kidding! You're about the only guy who handles all approaches, as I've said before, indiscriminate. You want a MP1, through a Mesa amp, Vintage 30 up against a Marshall JCM, up against an Axe FX, up against an Amplifier, up against Bias FX? LEON TODD's the man for the job. Hell of a player too!
Stupid question: Its greatr to play with the Atomic 12 through headphones but taking it on stage (volume etc) after you have your presets already set seems to be a big challenge. Is there any way you could make a video on how to convert to stage volume etc after you sit on the computer and set yourt pedalboard up? Maybe also a video on the different ways to preset the pedals (AB) etc??
Hello,
First, very informative and honest review/comparison video! Thank you for posting. Can you tell me if external dual foot pedal parameters can be stored for each saved preset on the unit? more specifically, 1 external pedal for gain control and 1 external pedal for volume? This very basic feature was lacking in the Line6 Live and is ONE of the reasons I got rid of it. Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.
I'm actually happy with the normal one (the one that came out before the 6).
How is it compare to HX stomp?
Atomic Amps AmpliFire 6 & Morningstar MC6 vs Atomic Amps AmpliFire 12. The former will cost a bit more but would give you more options for different setup scenarios. Alternately paired with the Boss MS-3 which would add relay switching when mixing it with an analog amp/hybrid setup \m/
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE POSTED THE LT CHUNK PRESET ANYWHERE?
Here's the most recent presets www.dropbox.com/s/1nsmoz03vf7a4ji/Amplifire%20Presets.zip?dl=0
Thanks for this video! I'm impressed with how you make this units sound. They have dual IR loading, to program a stereo IR cabs output?
Hi Leon hey I know this is like 3 yrs ago but I like the 12 alot and wanted to see what you thought about these? I think it now has an update on software too
Most (if not all) of the videos for either of these units haven't really explored the expression pedal capabilities in relation to the unit's onboard wah, pitch shifting, and modulation effects. If the 6 were being used as the centerpiece of an existing pedalboard, those sorts of functions would be a big factor I think. What's been your experience using the expression functionality? #expressyourself
Hats a very good point, I'll organise a video around it.
@@LeonTodd explore lots of different parameters with this if you do -- there used to be all sorts of bugs for me in trying to assign different parameters to expression from the computer editor and I was forced to always assign expression pedal control via hardware editor to know my assignment was going to actually hold. I think wah was fine, but I was working with some of the deeper delay parameters and...really buggy.
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I’ve been thinking of switching from Helix to the Amplifire 6 simply because this unit is small enough to fit in my gig bag and I don’t drive. The only thing is...I have got very used to snapshots on Helix (seamless switching) what is the switching like on amplifire?
With the 6, is it possible to send the IR signal only out the Left channel to FOH, and the right channel (no IR) to a stage cab?
What about the amplifire 3? is it also the same as these two? just less foot switches?
Yes
Hey brother which one is the latest the 6 or the 12 great video. Thanks
The 12 has an On/Off switch. I find that another nice little thing.
I missed that, indeed it's a very handy little feature!
Hey Leon awesome video ! Just bought the Atomic Amp 12 and love it, but cant seem to figure out how to re amp with my apollo twin . Do you have any suggestions for that ?
I have a video on reamping with the AX8 and the Apollo Twin, should be the same process.
@@LeonTodd hey Leon thanks for the reply ! I watched the video , sadly cant find a way to edit the main outputs individually on the atomic ( for example setting output 2 to input 1 ) Cant find anything on the net about this too, please let me know if you someday try it yourself . Thanks a lot again !
AA12 everyday and twice on Sundays!
Can I have those last two settings? please
Leon how would you compare the Atomic to the AX8 in terms of quality of tones?
I've owned both. The simple comparison is the Atomic AA3 I had was like driving my girlfriends Ford Fiesta, perfectly acceptable and gets you where you need to be, but my AX8 is like my BMW 330 MSport. Does everything the AA3 did, but sooooo much better!
The Fractal is just better: better amp tones, better effects, etc
The Atomic is no slouch mind you, but there is a big difference to my ear in tone, quality and feel
I ended up selling the AA3 and got a HX Stomp. Which itself is very good, and closer to the AX8, but still no-where near where i'd even consider parting with the Fractal
If I saw an AA6 for sale at a good price I'd certainly get one as they're great handy units and I've improved my FRFR's now so I'm sure I might like it a bit better
It depends what you want from the unit. The Fractal is twice the price and a big leap in complexity (Should you want to deep dive into tweaking). Some think they're on a comparable level. I didn't find that at all. But as a b/rig or backup to something like the AX8 the AA3/AA6 and HX Stomp are invaluable
@Linus I had mine up until the HX Stomp came out and I sold it to pay for the Stomp.
The Stomp's a real useful little box, actually sat programming it right now for a gig where I dont want to take the AX8.
With modern modellers I dont think you can go too wrong. They're all capable of great stuff. It just depends on what you want it to do soundwise and how well you set it up
I was just about to try to ask Leon for his opinion on this. I owned an AA3 for about 6 months, a couple of years ago. I thought it was 'okay.' But, it never *moved* me. When i hear people demoing the Amplifire on youtube, it sounds 'okay.' When i hear the fractals, it sounds 'like wow.' Something is just better/more exciting. I don't quite get it, because when there are direct comparisons between the two units, the differences are so slight, if they exist at all. I'm wondering more recently if it's a matter of the fractals having better delays and reverbs? And the actual amp models are what are almost even? So, might it be an even match to compare an Amplifire *plus* a couple of excellent reverb and delay pedals? I dunno. I'm about to spend twice the money on the AX8, but have been hoping for some rationalization to go back to the Amplifire. But when there are players who have both, they almost invariably save the Atomic for 'backup' duty to the Fractal. That has to mean something, no?
Oh, yeah-i really, really, really need to nail the EVH Brown Sound. Thats why i won't even consider a Helix, and part of the reason why i didn't love the Amplifire. It just didn't do EVH nearly as well as what i've heard over and over from the Fractals.
I had the AA3, and part of my dislike was the lack of footswitches. I just needed more. If i went back, it would be for the 6 or 12, and the other part of the appeal is that i just love the idea of having separate pedals. Went to Guitar Center the other day and the glass cases with all those beautiful devices was just so compelling. A more interesting approach than the 'one box' Fractal AX8. But, then i'd have to deal with the practical issues of Power, and cables, but still.... Pedals are cool.
I owned a Helix LT and I thought it sounded like garbage. I also had a Kemper for a week or so and I thought it sounded good but it's a bit of a rabbit hole finding the right profile. Im just trying to find the right thing for me. I am looking for something with good presets because im not much of a tweaker.
@@rccampbell460 Give Fractal a go. They're easy to set up and you can get really goof sounding presets for free from Leon off of AxeChange that are really useful
Dude my 12 doesn’t update and it stays stuck at the first screen smh
Do you have an opinion about what´s better amplifirebox or amplifire 6 or even 12?
This or the Hotone Ampero?
Hey legend - is is possible to have the H9 tuning in Stereo on those?
You can setup a dual detune in the pitch block
@@LeonTodd I think auto complete messed up my question - I meant to ask if it’s possible to hook the eventide H9 via sends and have it in Stereo rather then only mono? I’m using the 12…Thank for taking the time to reply
I know it aint as flexible but for me the tech 21 wipes the floor with this pedal. it sounded so harsh and digital that after 2 weeks I lost my nerve and sent it back. I have not regretted it for one minute. I really was shocked by how much I had grown to dislike it. Give me a tech 21 any day. Pity it has no presets though
Brett, I'm having a dilemma I would like to purchase a multi-effects unit .. could you possibly give me some advice! In your professional opinion the ISP Theta pro or the Atomic Amplifier 6 (12) ... I know the Helix and the boss gt-1000 are out there ... And I cannot afford a Fractal Ax8 ... Thank you!!
Too complicated for me. I'm an analog man. I've been playing for 35 years and i still plug the cables in backwards on my pedals. But it's fun to watch anyway. LOL
Leon. Please please please do a review of the 2 button Amplifier-box by these guys.
Man, the more I hear their products the more I'm impressed, especially at the price. Cool stuff. You have turned me into a modeler guy. 😂 Seriously though. It just makes sense. I could never afford, store, upkeep, and take several amps and effects with me to a gig compared to these wonderful sound scape products. Just killer time to be playing guitar..
Really enjoy your channel sir. Can't thank you enough for all the value you bring to me as a guitar player and music lover..
Oh. If you've not heard of Gary Schutt. Check him out doing the keyboard song Frankenstein on guitar.
It's so cool..
ua-cam.com/video/y-gEslkFnzo/v-deo.html
Dumb question but is this supposed to be used with a power amp and cab? Does it work like a pedal? I’m a digital newbie
Can function as a preamp into a power amp/cab or as a direct solution with FRFR