2020 Mr. Olympia Finals - Top 4 Video Analysis
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- This is my take on the 2020 Olympia Finals, featuring the top 4 callout of Big Ramy, Brandon Curry, Phil Heath, and Hadi Choopan.
0:00 - General thoughts/impressions of the top 4 at the 2020 Mr. Olympia
4:37 - Official contest scorecard
6:30 - Top callout comparison analysis
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haadi's enthusiasm on the stage was so wholesomeee , can't not love him , or any of the competitors the whole lineup was respectful towards each other .
His playful competitiveness was fun to watch🤣
First time I've ever watched a body building video, this was great 👌🏾 That Hadi guy needs more praise.
Maxx Charles Needs more praise even more so, check him out and check out how much better he is than those that place higher than him. He should have been in the top 3 or four and that was so Not the Case. Smh!!!!!!!
@@berthadelone8544 chill
Welcome to the world of body building ...
These are not ordinary men..anyone who has done little body building experience ..will bow his head to these legends...for me all are great..
Scruch is that you @ofentse Mwase films
The more and more I see the footage, the more I keep feeling Hadi Should have placed 2nd
If he was as sharp at the pre-judging as he was at the night show. 100% agree. Should have been at least 3rd even at the prejudging IMO. Phil wasn't as polished either day for 3rd IMO. Brandon's upper body ascetics carried him to 2nd not his noticeably softer conditioning and lack of legs.
If you look at the scorecards, the judges actually did have hadi second in the finals, but it just wasn’t enough to put him ahead of Phil overall.
@@Tyler1330 Brandon had no leg definition from the front. A little bit of a teardrop and that is about it. His legs were literally non-existent. You have to severely penalise that since it is half of the body.
Yes U R absolutely deadly right yaha ap dekho ki phill ko dia gaya 3rd lekin vo deserve nhi krta mere husab se to phill ko retire ho jana chahiye kyuki abs to h hi nhi yaha per mere hisab se Ramy ka size matter kr gaya verna ap jis angle se dekhoge jb bhi dekhoge Hadi sbse conditioned dikhega nazar us k ooper se hategi nhi baki kya hua sb jante h aur ye barso se hota chala aa rha h
Phils abdomin was very poor. He was body was not condition totally. Hadi deserve 2nd place
Your commentary is really spot on. Hadi fucking showed up in the finals. Steve Weinberger had to reprimand Hadi a good few times during the entire contest - Hadi gets cheeky and even talks smack... while not even knowing English! I love that guy.
I thought exactly the same. Plus, he gets away with it because he is somehow a likable fella🙂
He is too good. 2nd for me. I will wait roelly and hadi to take it now
1. RAMY 2. HADI 3. CURRY 4. HEATH
Damn Hadi definitely does have the warrior spirit. He’s intense.
he shouldve been second. far better conditioning than brandon w superior legs
@@19GBABY19 ... ABSOLUTELY 💯
@@19GBABY19 I'd say 3rd for sure! 2nd.... I'd agree with if he looked the same in pre-judging as he did in the final's!
Daniel Therrien tbh he did already. Curry had a few spots that weren’t really eye catching to me.
Exactly 🦾🦾🦾
The fact that Big Ramy won against all odds makes it even more impressive, he totally deserves to be Mr. Olympia 💪🏻👑
What odds? Lol the guy got a special invite, covid isn't as bad as people think and everyone else was off lol
@@hf6541 politics duh
@@hf6541 not everyone was off, just that Big Ramy destroyed the freaking lineup by a mile
@@crimsonchin142 alright whatever you say 😉
@@hf6541 hater!!!
Curry was well conditioned as usual. But you are correct, his legs were still lagging.
You're absolutely right, you Handsome Bastard! 😀👍🎄
He wasn't more conditioned though. still off. Hadi choopan is 2nd for me
I think you're semi-right. Brandon has quite poor legs for a top 3 in the mr. O, but his legs don't suck as bad as most would claim. In the top 4, everyone except him had killer legs, so he stood out more. Dexter Jackson, Dorian Yates and Kevin Levrone did not have the best legs out there either. I mean, they're not Johnnie O Jackson level is what I mean.
@@mrcallofdutyman1 wow man. Slow down. Dorian had crazy legs and he won many ab and thigh due to that fact. Kevin had a crazy side leg with that quad sweep. Brandon has thin legs,with no mass, no detail ,no separation , from all sides and most mass is on abductors. Like literal trash. Make me want to appreciate dennis wolf who is the white version of him with bigger legs but thinner arms. Also since you want to compare tight midsection is alright but those swallow abs can only win phil.
Curry's not well conditioned at all. He lacks separation, he's too smooth, all these in addition to lackluster legs. He won the olimpia because he was practically competing by himself. And he was too high even now
Big Ramy has set a new standard. That mass with that conditioning is hard to be achieved by other bodybuilders
Honestly I prefer the shape and symmetry of Brandon. I just wish his legs were better. Ramy looked unbeatable in certain poses tho.
Builders are going to destroy themselves trying to play that size game, to match him. I'm not sure he could have problems replicating that form every time.
He's looking alot like me when I was 13... No on a serious note, Brandon's legs just aren't up to snuff...
@@rogerrousco2921 true. man's a freak! like ronnie who could put on more size easily compared to others. if all others try to play the mass game in next year's mr.O they just gonna ruin the body
@@KingJhase803 Brandon with bigger legs could challenge him. I don’t feel like Hadi can beat Rami at the mass game since he is shorter. I can’t see how Hadi comes in more conditioned either. Has to be Brandon or Rami being off.
I can't believe how energetic Hadi is while being such dieted down and conditioned
the way hadi was challenging phil and brandon during the pose down is great to see
He was beating Brandon too in the finals but he was so far back in conditioning in the prejudging it hurt him
@@Kevin_Calzada Funny think is that in predudging he was less conditioned and he still was the most conditioned guy on the stage :D
@@efo4697 he wasn't. Hadi wasn't the most conditioned in prejudging.
That should be,
Rammy
Haddi
Brandon
Phil
Yup
Yep your right on.
Yes... U r ryt
@@jude9889 i thought that vacuum was pretty sick imo
Brandon has no legs!.. That's it!
Hadi is hilarious in the pose down
I know - I laughed so much. But you gotta hand it to him, the guy came to fight!
Man did not give up in making phil pose with him😂
@@ezeuzuka3344 .....and straight after that, "show me the legs Brandon" xD
@@MrBierbanger he is so funny
Big Ramy finally realized his potential. Excellent analysis.
I 2nd the notion!
Yours is a fair, detailed and objective BB channel, which is so difficult to find. The video is a great closure to this year’s Olympia event. My final thoughts are: The era of Phil has ended and the reign of Ramy has begun.
You can say this when Big Ramy wins seven or eight M.O.
After seeing this comparison, I think it's clear that Hadi should have gotten second. His condition is awesome and his midsection is the best out of the four. He's pretty much complete aside from a few genetic things here and there.
Didn’t you watch the video? Had I DID place second here. This is the finals where Hadi placed 2nd.
@@timjones7336 I was talking about the actual competition where Hadi finished 4th behind Ramy, Brandon, and Phil.
@@thomas_2285, but you still have to consider the prejudging where he hold water and got straight 4th place. If he would already have brought his Finals package in the prejudging, he would have been 2nd in total. I think he probably should have got 3rd in total, with Phil in 4th place.
Tom are you going to cover classic as well? Cbum looked unbeatable this year.
Yup that'll probably be up next
@@Tomn8er please don't lag it by a week.
@@Tomn8er Great Can hardly wait! You do an excellent commentary!
Hadi lacked in prejudging otherwise he would’ve been the clear 2nd place. But Ramy was untouchable 💪💪
Finally someone who gets it. People seem to be forgetting that this Finals footage is only half the equation.
@@Tomn8er Indeed Hadi was carrying a lot of water in prejudging it could be due to his very late arrival in USA due to Visa issues. But he is young can comeback strong in 2021.
It's a shame Hadi got 4th. Even though he wasn't as good in pre judging, in the finals he looked better that Brandon or Phil did at any stage in the competition.
Can’t believe I’m saying this but it’s kinda weird how Phil’s conditioning carried him to all those Olympia titles. Everyone was saying “Phil just needs to be 85% to be everybody” and here Phil is at 85% and in third with an argument he should’ve been in forth.
Just for the record I said 90% 😜
💯
Exactly
I dunno man, Phil was 85% in '14 or '17, he was worse than that this time, maybe 70%. If he had come in with the same hernia, same destroyed abs but WITHOUT the gut... he might have won the whole thing even if his overall body is worse than in '17
He was downsized and on top of that his gut was bad. I recall Phil saying it himself that if ramy was conditioned he couldn't beat him and that was when Phil was better. Imagine how it is now?
well.. as u can see it was close in the prejudging between him and ramy^^ if phil came on without any gut issues he would have still maybe take it.. and thats craaaaaazy^^ big ramy is far bigger then he is but phils genetics and 3D is just disgustingly insane and creates an illusion thats rarely seen... he looks far bigger then he really is^^ so i would say thats phils 70-80%... and hes still 3rd xD u realize that dude or? do u see how insane that stuff is? if hes ongame like nobody can beat him and if they do its just slightly and cause they are more bigger then him^^ his quality is insane in every aspect and he behaves like a champ and professional most of the time too^^ i think he didnt deserve to win this time btw but i also had him 2nd in pre judging but still its crazy to me what he can still pull off with that insane injury he had there^^ hes just a legend in his own right and sorry but brandon may be similar in some ways but hes still far inferior to me.. these chicken legs are just not easy forgivable and i still think they should have placed phil b4 brandon.. its crazy to me how they could say the legs are less important then the abs.. so i dont know but besides the phil/brandon placing im satisfied with this Mr.O good judging lighting was decent live stream was decent and ramy brought it finally^^
I'm liking Hadi more and more!👍
My friend I've waited for your analysis more than any other channel(no blowing smokes up the a@@),you've got the pith, wit and eye for detail. Many thanks ahead
Your commentary is excellent!
Always the best comparison breakdown.
You.
This channel is a great reminder of how much I love bodybuilding.
Hadi pushing phil during pose off is so funny 😂
Top-quality commentary as usual, Tom, thanks. And I agree that something must be done about the distracting backgrounds.
I have never been moved watching the Mr. Olympia nearly this much. So happy for him and for the sport of bodybuilding!
It's been 3 weeks since the Mr. O and it's probably the 3rd or 4th time that I'm watching this video, been a long time subscriber of your's Tom and you are the most in-depth analyser of this sport/pageant. Your channel has grown steadily but I guess that you have other errands to run as you don't post that frequently coz if you had, you'd been one of the big boys of the game but I'm glad that you pursue this as a passion and not as a profession, that way, your insight seems more relatable to us guys on the outside looking in....PS: loved those bodybuilding history and top-best body-part videos. God bless ya, man!
Not too long at all -- bring on the 15-20+ minute breakdowns! Great coverage as usual, much appreciated.
Anyone else notice Phil running away from hadi for *a few* minutes? 😆
Yeah.... And that was becuase Hadi was challenging phil for an Ab and thigh pose I think.... And phil was like, why don't we do a back double instead and Hadi was physically turning phil to the front. And that is when phil realised that he was in trouble..😁
@@pramod14091993 exactly. Even when he was in the center with Ramy and they were posing facing each other, you could see Phil staring at ramy then turning around. Probably to not lose focus
Another cool vid! Looking forward to the other reviews for 2020. Thank you!!
I was waiting for this one
Regan looked like a child up there with those giants 😳
He makes me nervous, it's like his head/neck makes him look like he's not responsible enough to wield that kind of power.
Give the GH a lil time
@@Thedudeabides803 GH = growth hormone ?
Excellent job mate! This was such a fun Olympia to watch. Such a huge turn of the tide! Ramy I love as the mr Olympia winner
tom8er we need more content .dont be lazy.love your videos 😅♥️♥️
Man i love your channel!
Ramy is beautiful inside and outside as well, Ramy got what he deserved => an Olympia winner, ppl champion and he beated 3 Olympia winners on that stage .. i will never forget when he put a smile on phil face after he kissed his head and for people whom wondering why Ramy did that let me say this is a part of our culture to express gratitude and sympathy at the same time... on behalf of all Egyptians we really do respect Phil Heath he is a legend and we all admired what he done as 7 time’s Olympia winner... and best of luck for Brandon .. Thank you Dennis thank you Chad for making Ramy 100% in condition to get back SANDOW to Egypt .....you guys gave us a fantastic show in such tough year.
People wrote Mamdouh off big time after the AC, so glad he delivered the goods this time.
Lol the guy kept coming in soft af for the last 4 years,what do you expect? Let me guess, you're still waiting for kai to compete?lol
Great content as always!
Spot on analysis, even calling out the busy background. Respect.
Hady is a clear close second!
I met Ramy on a flight , he was sitting by himself so I asked if it was really him, he got up shook my hand and asked me if i wanted an autograph.
Hes such a humble and polite man...
Excellent commentary on this channel.
Good job Tom!
I really thought it should have been ramy, hadi, curry, then Heath.
Agree with u
Exactly! With the way Heath looked, he could have ended up even lower. How many times have you seen someone win third place with barely visible abs? It doesn't matter why, that's just the way it is. I believe Heath was not judged as he appeared. He was judged as a former Mr. Olympia. He got points because he is Phil Heath. I hope Hadi doesn't get too discouraged because he is awesome!
Agreed
That's exactly how it should be but they weren't gonna let 1st and 2nd places be non Americans from the Middle East.
@@bigcamel I don't think that had anything to do with it. Otherwise, why did Big Ramy win at all? Bodybuilding judging has been very controversial for decades even when it was a far more international sport. The Olympia was often held outside of the U.S.
Any "political" motivations in judging had more to do with who was under contract with the mags and supplement companies.
And bodybuilding fans have always been more concerned with great physiques than with nationality.
Fortunately, politics never came out in this contest!
except w Hadi perhaps
He should tbh. He had everything in textbook form and was on point.
Not for the #1 spot, but Hadi was arguably "politic'd" out of a placing... or even two.
You are spot on in all or this video & I loved it!
Loved to see the analysis,point to point observation.
Fun video as always, and I'll share my own analysis.
Front Double Bi - Something worth noting, Rammy's biceps look twice as large as Brandon's right bicep, which is much smaller than his left. To me, that assymetry is further compounded by Brandon's triceps. His right tricep is notably larger than his left as well, creating a wonkyness to his pose. Rammy's bigger with better legs as well, so to me, this is a dominant victory for the Egyptian Phenom. Also, just because a competitor is going to get smoked from there on out, that doesn't mean they should get poses they don't deserve man. Hadi is definitely a better comparison.
Front Lat Spread - I think you're correct here.
Side Chest - Hadi looked better at the finals in this pose while Phil looked washed out. Muscle for muscle, Brandon outsizes Phil considerably, and without Phil's trademark separation, he loses imo. I put Phil in last with Hadi in third because his Obliques looked insane in that shot, and his conditioning was the best. He does get outmuscled by the behemoths in the middle.
Back Double - I give this to Hadi in this comparison. He's dense everywhere, and he's dailed in through the lower body. Phil's second, with Rammy third and Brandon last. Brandon's arm's don't overpower everyone's from this angle, and without that, his legs completely throw his pose off.
Back Lat Spread - I agree. I think you're on the money.
Side Tricep - Once again, you're right. Damn, Phil needed this win.
Ab and Thigh - I agree.
Most Muscular - I think you're underselling Hadi's hands clasped variation. Hadi's arms, while narrow when viewed from some angles, are very wide when facing forwards like this. At 16:23 you can see Hadi has a tremendous amount of detail across his entire body, with his abs just looking incredible. To me, they take up a lot of visual space here, and it's very impressive. Something else worth mentioning, Phil's right shoulder is about half the size of his left during the crab.
Either way, I think Hadi was a solid challenge for Ramy at the finals, and though the egyptian was simply too large and had better strengths than Hadi. EG, normally Rammy's calves are worthy of getting dinged. They are larger than Hadi's, and Hadi's quads, normally an overwhelmingly strong bodypart, are eclipsed entirely by Ramys.
Great video man, and keep up the great work.
Awesome arguments all around! Just to be clear, I wasn't commenting on Hadi's hands clasped; he's definitely deadly there. I was more unimpressed by his one hand on hip. Don't think he should bother with that in the future.
Great Analysis I’m putting you way up there 💪🏾👏🏾👏🏾
If Ramy gets more feathering and detail in his quads, and more detail in his back he will be extremely difficult to beat. Was honestly expecting Phil to come in super peeled, it would have been a good battle if he came in 100%. Glad Ramy won tho, he deserved it.
Crazy how this aged
great breakdown my man! wish I knew about you years ago!!!!
👏 love ur breakdown
look at phil running away from Hadi challenging him to a front shot. a most muscular; used to be a shot phil loved hitting. now he runs to the back double bicep. smh. still one of the greatest but really rough last couple years. hope he loses some of the attitude
That's the best I've ever seen Big Ramy he look fantastic honestly in my opinion I go Hadi second then curry 3rd and Phil 4th I always believed because of Ramy' s size he just needed to be detailed and he nailed it by a mile
Nice comparison review
What a fun posedown, omg, never saw them this liberated. Watched it at least 4-5 times!
Hadi had some bull shark testosterone before that posedown man, dude was challenging the fuck out of every moving object haha
I am so happy for ramy! It was a long time coming and it clearly meant a lot for the guy. But he could have some real competition if brandon brought his legs up to match his upper body
Egyptian fans who have been waiting since Mohammed Makkawy finished 2nd in 83 and Nasser who came so close I feel your joy
Nasser was flat out robbed in 97
I appreciate the channel 👌
Great work bro
The dark background definitely hid a lot of Curry's details. It didn't do him any favors.
Agreed.
Excuses. Akim was very dark as well but we could totally see the conditioning he brought in the same background. Guys like Terrence, George had totally black background and yet showed all the details. Admit it, Curry wasn't conditioned enough and gradually faded while doing call outs. Hadi was much sharper and reserved to place ahead.
@@christmg4682 Hadi was indeed better, but that doesn't change the fact that the background was totally unnecessary and washed out Curry's much darker skin (come on, Hadi is dark yes but Brandon is literally black). Also, the lighting was simply disappointing in general, and didn't do justice to any of the competitors. Should have sticked with the 212 lighting and background.
@@nero9506 Hadi? Who's talking about Hadi in reference to having a dark background? I'm referring Hadi as if you're harder you'll look harder and have Terrence for a good example. Hadi was harder with or without the black background and should've placed ahead.
@@christmg4682 Oh damn my bad, I read Hadi instead of Akim.
Finally, someone agrees with me, that phil heath should have beaten curry. I think heaths back and legs completely outshined Curry
yeah curry looked soft next these three and the lack of legs he just underperforms.
Keep up the videos Christmas is getting better.
Awesome quality so soon after the contest!
The thumbnail. My gosh look at Ramys legs. Ramys leg is the ideal ham for Christmas lol but seriously wtf!
Yeah if Brandon had better legs he could’ve won his second Sandow
Nah he looked flatter me. Ramy still would have won.
Then he should work on 50% of his body . I don't think there is much to be done for his legs he already reached his genetic limits
And a little better shape, but yeah probably. Anyways its hard to judge when a guy like ramy stands next to curry. Apples n oranges. Often they could go either way depending on your preference. But at least for now until curry comes in sharper and gets bigger legs, the answer is pretty damn clear imo.
@@1USF I've heard there's an issue with his knees
It is just like what if Phill comes with an eight pack(flex wheeler's midsection)
Forget the what if scenario, congratulate Ramy for his dominance.
Awesome video
i was waiting for ramy to win from 2019. Thank god.
btw, Good analysis bro.
If im early, will tomn8er reply?
2:50 look at haddi and phil hahaha great guys
Excellent coverage! You seem to be the only commentator who ever mentions the calves these days- it is half of the leg, after all!
All the other bodybuilders seemed really happy for Ramy
Great review 👍
Choopan's back latspread reminds me of Kevin Levrone's back in the day.
Great call didn't notice that until I read your comment.
1. Big Ramy 2. Hadi Choopan 3. Brandon Curry 4. William Bonac 5. Phil Heath
Congratulations Grammy you worked so hard for this I knew you would get it someday!
Great resume!
Brandon's dark color makes it hard to judge his condition from the videos. I think he looks much better in real life than in the webcast.
What Happen with Brandons legs?! 2 place is a Gift
You are the best analyst💪💪💪
You deserve a lot more viewers 👍
You should talk about other competitors that weren’t top 4 like William akim dexter
Im guessing thats coming at some point
Hadi looked like a bodybuilder out of all of them.
Always to the T comparisons ❤️
best breakdowns in the game
Damn, i was scared u were gonna be biased towards phil, but i respect u could appreciate Hadi's shape and look, despite him lacking in muscle bellies and overall genetics compared to those 3 behemoths besides him. For my money hadi could have taken 3rd.
Anyways, GREAT Olympia. That top 4 was incredibly competitive. Honestly, i dont think i recall ever seeing 4 back doubles, rear lat spreads, or front lat spreads for that matter, ever looking so good in any top 4 olympia in the past. Might get some hate here, but before anyone just throws big 90's names at me, name a year and then make a honest comparison.
Ramy knocked out everybody out. It was not even close. That's why he won. Otherwise the never give it to him... Still politics is there. That's what happened to Haddy.. They judge the composition before it start.. 😂😂😂😂
Beautiful analysis..thank you mate for being true
Big Ramy fully deserved. Great commentary and upload. 👏🏾👏🏾
I still prefer Phil over Brandon for many reasons. Brandon's legs were the weakest and practically non-existent as he stood there next to the other three competitors. His lats from the front look as though they attach too high, and because of the thin legs it makes his mid-section appear to be too big. From the back his legs were still the smallest, and his lower back development did not beat Phil's lower back.
We talk about how Phil should be penalised because of his mid-section, but shouldn't Brandon also be penalised for missing half a body?
Ramy's mid-section is bigger than Brandon's, but because of the bigger legs there is a better transition from the upper body to the lower body.
At least Brandon has a better and quite wider frame. Phil is narrow as fuck.
@@gabrielfernandez8111 Yeah, but you still can't brush over the lack of legs.
Damn, Chad Nicholls showed again he makes champs, not only was this a victory for Ramy Chad also won after the controversy, not saying it wasnt deserved tho
Everyone is riding DJ's nuts thinking he was the one that brought him in shape. Of course, everyone is on the bandwagon now
@@hf6541 nah, its not like that, still DJ helped and thats real, DJ its an OG on the sport, he as alot of knowledge
Thanks for video
Hadi was amazing!!! Good analysis
No way brandon should be 2nd with those defficient quads
To those who say that Hadi got robbed again, just know that Phil beat him by only a single point.
Looking forward to the other breakdowns
Long, but good content buddy
Tom “grain of salt” inator
Dorian was a non American that won
That's why I threw "Brit" in there too 😜
@@Tomn8er fair enough lol 😆
I like how you analyzed shot per shot.
HD pictures are a deal breaker compared to the live stream but its nice they got it working for once. What a show and what a result. Props to Brandon for putting up a fight.