Does This Atheist Think Christians are Lying?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Are christians lying? This atheist takes a look and offers an opinion. Did you ask for it? nope... but you're still going to get it. this christian tries to defend why christians AREN'T lying about this particular religion... and I explain why I don't accept what they're saying.
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Yes, people can ABSOLUTELY die for a lie if they are convinced it's true.
People can also die for a lie they are convinced is a lie. It is easier to die for something you are convinced is true, but the inverse isn't impossible. all you have to believe is that you dying for the (known) lie is still in the greater good to such a degree that dying for it is still okay.
And naturally there's a lot of side possibilities there as well, like dying unwillingly for a known lie. (All witches in history at the hand of inquisition).
Not too mention the huge spectrum inbetween.
@@unfairlive2
Exactly.
Though I formulate it as this;
The basis of the argument is flawed. A person will die for what they know is a lie if it's in service to, what they believe is a greater truth.
@@guytheincognito4186 An excellent formulation, and I think it is more correct than mine, as it explicitly states the implied.
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The case that came to my mind was suicide bombers. So convinced they are right.
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So glad my granddaughter will become a third generation spared a religious dogmatic conversion story
I can't thank my parents enough for growing up irreligious.
Moor-hen!
My family never prays or attends church but I was forced to go to Bible school when I was a kid and even made my 1st communion and I didn't believe a word of it back then now I'm 44 and see my family isn't religious at all and I don't know why I was forced to learn that nonsense ( although I did love all the money I got during my Communion )
@@Jfen79 the closest I got to religion was when my mom sent me to Sunday school when I was six. She told me she only did it because they had a whole daycare type setup at the church. It only lasted a couple weeks as she pulled me out after I came home quoting the Bible. And that was that. Although my mom was never indoctrinated, and come to think on it, my grandparents weren't Bible thumpers either ... so actually, my granddaughter would be a fifth generation spared a religious dogmatic conversion story.
@@CaptFoster5 my cousin who is more like my brother ( our moms are identical twins ) married a girl who's family are bible thumpers and my God son is having religion shoved down his throat he's 9 and very smart I wanna ask him if he really think there's a "God" or if he only believes because people tell him there is but I get it's not my place to do that although I wish my cousin would he's an atheist too
I definitely would not want to lean on a rationalization that supports religious terrorism and extremists as well as suicide cults across the globe. It's a self defeating argument on top of not being at all true...
Why do I have the impression I have heard all his arguments before? Because they have been spouted more times than I've had hot dinners, perhaps.
That's also a common theme amongst flearthers. They have "brandnew" arguments, but in the end it's the same old shit mixed in a new fashion. If mixed at all, sometimes it's the same dump as heard before.
Even the top tier apologists make evidently bad arguments, taken by bottom of the barrel apologists and turned into stupid arguments. And yet they find an audience that believes the drivel, and it is the state of mind of these people that worries me.
Some flaws in this guy's arguments.
1) He starts by assuming the Bible, as written, is true without showing it is true.
2) He assumes we actually have any true accounts of what happened to any followers of Jesus after he died. The Acts of the Apostles was written well after the fact by whoever wrote Luke. And that guy admitted all he did was collect stories from other guys and made a single story out of it all. But we don't really know what happened to everyone. We certainly have no way to say for a fact that any of them died for their belief in Jesus...whatever that belief even was.
3) He seems to forget that his points can equally validate the Qur'an (written way closer to the life of Muhammad and his original followers than the Bible to the life of Jesus and his original disciples) and the truth of Islam because of the martyrs who have died for their faith (who lives and dies for a lie....right?).
4) Lives have been transformed by Islam and other religions across time.
Lives are transformed by puberty every damn day. Weakest argument imaginable. Good job.
Lisa the rainbow giraffe is the real the mushrooms told me, Moorhen.
If dying for belief was a valid argument then just about anything can be considered true and accurate. I think it would confirm all the world's religions.
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He assumes that because the bible was -perfectly preserved- excuse me, "90% stable", which it isn't and wasn't, then it must be true, which is false and also nonsense. But what else should we expect from a guy who looks and sounds like he thinks huffing his armpit stench will protect him from 5G infections...
religion; Throwing darts at the wall and then painting the bulls eye around it later.
People die for lies all the time. How else would they set aside their natural sense of self preservation. They were convinced that their sacrifice would help the group survive.
14:40 “We should be seekers of truth.”
_Christian researches and realizes the religion can’t be true._
“No! Not like that!!”
Hilarious!
Remember, it is Truth (™️), not the truth that they seek. Just like they spread the News (™️) about 2000 year old events like they just happened.
I love the "die for a lie" apologetic. If we'd accept this terrible logic that no one would die for a lie/something they don't believe in as evidence for the claim, then you'd have to accept all instances of people throughout the world in different religions who died for heir beliefs. How many Muslims died during the crusades at the hands of Christians for their belief? So Islam is true then?
And that's when the special pleading double standards come out.
Theist: "I know you've pointed out all the ways *insert religion here* can be justified the exact same way...but my religion is different cuz it's mine!"
Not to mention people who believed their lies served a greater good - and were willing to die for a lie, so that other people could benefit from it. For example spies and freedom fighters.
All you need to die for a lie, is the conviction that the cause is worth it. In the case of Jesus' disciples, of the top of my head, they could've resented to Roman Empire, and spread Christianity in an attempt to undermine the authority of it and encourage other people to do the same - knowing that it was untrue, but willing to sacrifice their lives for it, if it potentially meant the freedom of the Jewish people. Just one possibility of many explaining why they might die for a lie.
Give'em the Sean McDowell answer: in Christianity, we only have good evidence for about 3 people being martyred for their faith. And even in those cases, we don't know if they had the chance to repent, or they would have been executed anyway.
@@gergelymagyarosi9285 The Church itself used to execute anyway, but at least the victim died happy in the knowledge they'd had their soul saved.
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Iraq had womd's and everyone who died did for the truth /s
16:00 Nothing fails like prayer
Not this again...
Yes! Folks will die for a lie! They will die for a lie _when_ they think that lie supports a greater "truth."
I want to see that guy on a phone chat with Matt Dillahunty, I can already predict it won't go well for him.
The only thing he managed to convince me about, was the meme that appeared around the 19:05 moment. It showed a cat, with the label "God" on its forehead. Okay. He didn't convince me that cats are our gods. I knew that long before the internet and memes were invented.
but maybe it should be labelled "Atheist" because cats are smart and rarely trust anyone or anything
"People wouldn't die for a lie."
Well, I've got two words that prove him wrong:
Heaven's Gate.
And that's just for faith and religion. Should I or anyone else remind him of what happened in a certain city less than a week into January two years ago?
like those people who flew planes into buildings.
@@MrCanis4 I wanted to use examples of people who called themselves Jesus or at least a prophet. This is not to dismiss examples from other religions, just that the bulk of these apologists are always for Christianity, so such examples are more appropriate.
On that note, maybe I should have used David Koresh instead of Heaven's Gate. After all, he declared that he was Jesus, which is particularly strange, given that he wore glasses. Now, I don't know about you, but according to the "good book," Jesus heals the blind on multiple occasions with no trouble at all and rather clearly NOT need faith in him as a prerequisite... so why was he not able to handle astigmatism on this one?
@@DavidRichardson153 for me, i'm not even convinced that this jesus fella ever existed. And if he did exist, still zero for the evidence of a god.
@@MrCanis4 Considering that Jesus seesm to have been a common name at that time at that many Jewish sects were founded, I see at least a good chance that a man named Jesus was the leader of a Jewish sect. And it's not unlikely that, if the sect made problems, the sect leader would be crucified.
That's not completely unlikely, although the evidence for that is already not good.
What the believers forget however: the mere existence (if proveable and proven) of such a man does not proof anything other than that such a man existed.
@@DavidRichardson153 He didn't heal the wounds received in the cross. Because he was a god puppeteering a flesh suit, he probably didn't even feel pain.
As always, that guy is arguing *for* faith. He has faith that his arguments make sense.
And that’s the whole problem.
My god. He's completely forgetting so many things because he's so blinded by his presuppositions, and inability to see any other viewpoints, that he can't even fathom the HUGE, gaping, flaws in the things he's saying. Heck, just his claim that, "People wouldn't give up their lives for this unless they thought it was true, therefore these things are true." is so flawed that it's amazing that he can't see how flawed it is. How many religious cults have committed suicide or gotten themselves killed in their persuits of their beliefs? And a huge number of these weren't Christian. That doesn't make ANY of their religions are true.
Unfortunately, you're 100% right...
I see how prayer works. I have a rabbit's foot key fob. Whenever I feel anxious, uncertain, or want something real bad, I clutch it in my hand and concentrate. Then the problem is solved. It seems to be the same thing as idolatry without a physical idol.
The term you are looking for is “confirmation bias,” also humorously called the Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
You only pay attention to the hits and ignore how many misses it took to get there. The one front pocket Bible that stopped a bullet vs the 10M soldiers who had a Bible in their front pocket but were shot in the head.
at least your rabbit's foot key fob is real.
You said something right near the end that, for me, sums it all up....
"I just feel lied to".
But there are currently multiple different translations of the Bible that are so different many Christians insist only theirs is true.
Okay, sure, I agree that Christians not being that different doesn't help convince me that their religion is true. Dude just keeps making convincing arguments against his religion & not rebutting them.
The 'King James Version only' crowd are particularly scary - especially the New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist group. They would like to establish a theocracy.
Hell, the NT contradicts itself on some pretty major stuff if you get out of translations.
Matthew is the first time Jesus is born of a virgin. Mark has a word that is closer to "young girl". And they get that idea from Paul, who uses "born of a woman" as a part of a larger allegorical structure starting in Galatians 3.
So we go from allegory to young girl to virgin. Even if there was only one translation that everybody used, it would still not be true, by its own account.
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Moor-hen!
Christian: "Everyone has direct access to God! You don't have to be holy! I 100% guarantee that if you talk to God, then God will talk back!"
Atheist: "I tried talking to God, and God didn't talk back."
Christian: "Whoa-ho-ho, slow down there, speedy. I didn't promise you anything. You're just not holy enough to hear back from God."
You didn't use enough holy postage.
Access to god who? You cannot pray to god god god is not a name
god just signifies a deity after god comes its name/names
10:00 _it would make no sense,_ like the green stop 🛑 sign pictured in the video.
I've seen those in the wild. I was driving Uber in the Cleveland area, and in a gated community they had green stop signs.
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people die for lies every day, the biggest lie that gets the most of them is "i love you so no i wouldnt hurt you - anymore"
I remember like decades ago when Christians would talk about love your neighbor, the Good Samaritan, pray for the sinner and I always wondered why they were lying because I knew that wasn't in their hearts.
*_TEN YEARS_* ⁉️
I wouldn't want to spend 10 minutes in this guy's presence, but to each their own.
By his argument Jim Jones must be the messiah
Also Marshall Herff Applewhite or indeed Hitler or Stalin
@gowdsake7103 yeah that list is long.
Kim Jong Un, David Koresh.
We could go all day.
One of the most terrifying things about humans is the power of belief.
I prayed for faith once. And not in some kind of atheist "gotcha" or anything like that. I was surrounded by people who at least appeared to have this strong faith, and I prayed to have that, too. No answer, which tells me that, if there is a God who answers prayers, they either don't care if I believe in them, or actively don't want me to believe in them.
2000 years of waiting for the End Times. It is getting seriously ridiculous.
7:20 ......"Beast Jesus" has to be the most hilarious faux pas of Christian iconography ever.
Even George Castanza understood: "It's not a lie... if you believe it."
So basically, Hogwarts must be real, or else Harry Potter could not have driven his cart through the wall to find Platform 9 and three-quarters. Got it.
My life radically changes every few years that's what life is I don't understand how people think it's only their god that can change a life
A few points: 1 -my dad used to say that -if a group of jurors who had never heard of the Bible were to be presented with evidence pro and con, the Bible would be laughed out of court. 2 -Bobby Ingersoll -The Great Agnostic -said that a martyr willing to die for a cause indicates the martyr's belief, not the veracity of the belief. 3 -this fellow quotes Jeremiah. He forgot Jeremiah 20:7, "Oh, God, thou didst deceive me, and I was deceived.....". 4 -this fellow talks about "pleasant" Christians (ha-ha).The Mormons are some of the most pleasant religionists on earth. That doesn't make their belief correct. 5 -the di$iple$ were more interre$ted in making a living be$ide$ the profe$$ion$ they earlier per$ued. They had a financial interest in propagating the Jesus myth. And 6 -I love the dancer at 13:48. Incidentally, my first name is Jesse = Joshua = Jesus. I think it is rather bizarre for an atheist to have the name of Jesus.Thanks for another good video, Skep!
The longer Im away from religious belief the more I can see just how ridiculous it all is. Im maybe year 3 from my full deconversion and I look back puzzled, I hear these guys talk and see myself like how did I use to agree with this logic or have these trains of thought.... Its just all so preposterous! I wish more people could see religion for what it is.
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At 18:46 - "God cares for us deeply." I'm guessing the countless tens of thousands of people who die horrible deaths every year might have something to say about that.
Claiming to know something you don't actually know, no matter how much you believe it, is lying.
Not completely how I see it. A liar is someone who knows how the truth looks like, but decides to not speak the truth.
A believer however could be convinced that he knows. I would not call such a person a liar, he or she simply does not know better.
@@johnscaramis2515 Then they should learn better. Ignorance is not an excuse.
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Every single apologists lies, so yeah, they are willing to die for a lie.
The “they wouldn’t die for a lie” line always makes me think ‘then I guess we should all be following Heaven’s Gate and be wearing white sneakers, white sweatsuits, and get bowl cuts.
Or maybe we should follow David Koresh as the messiah.
Or Jim Jones.
Or the religion of any of the innumerable individual people that have committed suicide or murder (or both) for their faith.
Apologists always say this line as if the disciples (or the early saints, in the case of Catholic apologists) were the only people in the history of the world that are recorded to have died for their religion.
Or at least, that only Christians have ever died for their faith.
It’s absurd.
I love when they act like church leaders have nothing personal to gain. Cracks me up everytime.
lol I love that he points out why people used to believe more. The Catholic Church saw the issues in the Bible, they made it so only those in charge could read, only those in charge could reach god, as soon as that control ended, opposing the idea has become more and more of an issue for them over time.
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THe thing people forget about Paul is that the only thing we know about Paul... comes from Paul.
So basically everyuthing he says about himself should be taken with extreme quantities of salt,
I’ve heard that anything in the Bible should be taken with a grain of Lot’s wife. 😆
Well, he does say that all the information he writes about comes from either scripture or his holy visions of god…
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6:20 except for how Christianity spent a lot of time destroying everything that conflicted with their preferred version.
So THAT's why it's "leaf be upon you".
We don't think they lie... they lie, frequently and with great confidence.
Praying; Magical thinking (psychology), the belief that one’s ideas, thoughts, actions, words, or use of symbols can influence the course of events in the material world. Magical thinking presumes a causal link between one’s inner, personal experience and the external physical world.
The Christian justification seems cursed from the start. If you justify your belief with evidence, reason, logic, etc, then you don't need faith, a fundamental principle in Christian religions. But then if you appeal to faith, any faith is equally viable and there is no reason why your faith is more justifiable then another. And if you try to use evidence, reason, logic to justify it, then we are back at the start where faith is useless.
This not only true for Christianity, this is valid for all faith based religions.
@@johnscaramis2515 true, indeed
I like how he dabbles in why atheists find prayer problematic, but he forgets to mention at least three of those:
*Telepathy:* As a skeptic I uphold that no thoughts can be transferred from one mind to another without a method of communication. It's not a position exclusive to Christianity. I don't believe in telepathy in *any* circumstance. Christians for the most part, don't believe in telepathy in any *other.* circumstance.
*Contradiction of gods divine plan:*
Do Christians ever stop to consider what God would've done had they not petitioned him in prayer? I'd have thought an all powerful, all knowing and all loving being probably knows what he's doing and that asking him for some change of plans is a little presumptuous. If God would have done whatever was best anyway, then petitionary prayer is futile. If he does take council and change plans on behalf of humans, then the tri-omni (omnipotentce, omniscience, omni-benevolence) are very moot. Why wasn't God planning to do whatever is for the best in the first place?
*Prayer doesn't work:*
We know from experiments that intercessory prayer fails. The Templeton foundation tested groups of patients one that wasn't being prayed for, one that was but didn't know it, and one that was being prayed for and did know it. The first two groups results were the same. The last group did a little worse, perhaps due to the anxiety. This experiment was funded and performed by a religious Christian organisation by devout believers, who expected positive results, so the ol' 'magic don't work in sceptical environments' excuse doesn't hold.
So prayer is absurd because it can't work. Telepathy doesn't exist. It shouldn't work because god wouldn't do anything differently just because we ask and it DOESN'T WORK because that's what the data shows us.
It's interesting that people think asking a god (an all-knowing, all-powerful being prone to wrath) for a favor in the form of prayer is going to work but asking a boss for a raise is this untouchable hurdle. "I can't piss him off, he might fire me" vs "he won't light me on fire, I'm only asking".
I keep seeing a huge disconnect here...
The supposed situation is always described as: "the disciples and a bunch of other people were willing to die FOR their belief".
HOWEVER I do not believe that adequately describes how true believers would have felt...
True believers would have actually believed what their religion preached...
And their religion preached that, when they died, they would go to live forever in a wonderful place...
In other words the situation was NOT: "they were willing to suffer and die because they thought what they believed was important".
It was really: "they had been convinced that, when they died, they'd be resurrected in heaven to live there forever".
So, rather than being afraid to die, but WILLING to suffer it for their cause, THEY WEREN'T AFRAID TO DIE.
(Kind of like how modern suicide bombers are willing to die "so they can go straight to heaven and get their 19 virgins"... or whatever.)
To use a modern analogy... compare...
- A man who is willing to stand in front of a firing squad, rather than recant his beliefs, because he considers them THAT IMPORTANT.
- A man who is willing to stand in front of a firing squad, rather than recant his beliefs, WHO THINKS HE'S SAFE BECAUSE HE'S WEARING A BULLETPROOF VEST.
(Anyone who really believes the God story believes that the entire world, including death, is "stacked in his or her favor".)
"Popular" is not the opposite of "false".
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That’s what I’m here for
Given the fact that the earliest of the four gospels were written decades after Jesus death, by someone who was working on stories about Jesus "preserved" in the oral tradition, I see very little reason to expect that the gospels, as originally written, reflect the truth about what Jesus actually said, let alone what he did, particularly when it involves the miraculous.
Poor jarjar sticky tongue. So hated.
A life full of pedigree!? I don’t think he knows what that word means. Did he keen a life of prestige?
Axiom means self-evident truths. There’s no self evident truths in the bible. That’s why there’s a bible and years of commentary. It’s not self evident at all. That man has a decent vocabulary he uses sloppily.
I in fact was not smoking marijuana on that mountain. I was smoking Tobacco. It also wasn't a mountain but was actually my deity-to-Spaghetti Machine while on the ground.
The length of this video is also my favorite song of all time (:
There is no evidence any of the apostles died defending their religion. There's exactly no mention at all about what most of them supposedly did after the resurrection story. We don't even know whether they actually existed for most of them.
On top of that we know for a fact that people definitely will die for a lie. All that requires is the other person believing your lie being more important than your own life. It's a rare occurrence, but it's trivially simple to give examples of why someone would do that... the most obvious being to protect others.
On top on top of that, even if someone died for it and wouldn't have if it was false, the only thing required for that is them _thinking_ it's true. That's not evidence it is actually true....
The "manuscript stability" argument ignores the weighting of when the overwhelming majority of those manuscripts are from, the 9th to 14th centuries, which were copied professionally in scriptoria. These massively skew any reliability percentage arrived at by the sheer volume there are. The earliest are only fragments. Worse still, we have a grand total of zero originals, so we don't know whether the textus receptus is accurate or not, or how accurate. It is overwhelmingly likely that nothing was written down at all for decades, and oral legends aren't worth the paper they're written on. Even with what we do have, there are highly significant variations, like the two alternative endings of Mark, and the adultery story in John, to name a couple.
With the "people wouldn't be willing to die for a lie," the question is immediately raise, "what makes you think they had a choice?" The Christian seems to think these early Christians had some agency in their fate, when it is not at all certain that they would have. There is a little support for the idea in Pliny the Younger's letters, where he asks Trajan what to do with Christians, but this does not seem to have lasted, nor been universal. Nero has a reputation of a being a vicious persecutor of early Christians, and it doesn't seem likely any Christians he laid his hands on would have had any agency in their own fate.
Paul wouldn't even have thought he was changing supernatural. He expected a Messiah because of Hebrew Scripture.
"Either the disciples saw something, or they lived a lie," {however he said it}, "Now both options are possible."
Not necessarily. He's going to spell out *EXACTLY* what the disciples saw, and *WHY* we should think that it *IS* possible that it could have happened in the way they thought they saw it. I do not know of any legitimate justification to say that it is possible for someone to have been actually, properly dead for 72 hours, (not an auto-resuscitation or a coma or anything like that - properly dead), and that they then came back to life.
Great video
Thank you!
Wasn't that clip from the movie Witness? A movie pertaining to a certain religion? 😜
To the notion that disciples should be trusted because they believed so wholeheartedly that they were willing to die, I give you the Heaven’s Gate cult, many of whose male adherents castrated themselves out of their devotion, and then, later on went ahead and willingly died for their belief.
So many arguments from apologists can be used to support known cults.
It doesn't matter how a religion makes you feel or how many followers it has. The truth is demonstrated with consistency and facts, not popular opinion and feelings.
Faith is not a virtue and literally anything can be taken on faith.
If people think that faith is a reliable path to truth, then they can believe something is true when their good sense tells them it isn't. That's how they can die for a "lie".
"if you just close your eyes and block your ears, to the accumulated knowledge of the last 2000 years, than moraly guess what, youre of the hook. and thank christ you only have to read one book" Tim Minchin.
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It's quite plausible that the disciples stayed with Jesus because they got such a good feeling out of the whole thing. When you consider how poor they were and that people were giving them charity and stuff, why would anybody leave a situation where they had happiness practically on tap? If they just felt they were learning how to be good people? Give people a reason to live and they'll follow you anywhere.
Never run into this apologist in a dark alley. He’ll probably be carrying some fava beans and chiante.
Also, as we know in this internet age, no-one is willing to lie to get more followers.
The Reformation didn't begin until the 16th Century AD.
That's 1,600 years of needing a Christian priest to explain the Bible to parishioners, plus another thousand years or so of needing the Jewish priests to explain it (Old Testament).
Versus 400 years of people reasonably having access to the Bible in their own languages, yet still needing a priest to explain it to them.
No wonder there's 45,000+ denominations of Christianity practiced today not counting the ones that either died out or who were killed off for their heretical beliefs.
I can't wait until they find a genuine, near complete Marcionite bible.
If 0.2% has changed significantly, that's still like 62 verses, which is just over 2 average chapters.
Also, who determined how "significant" a change had to be to count? People argue over the interpretation of something as simple as the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill." Should it be translated as murder? Does it count if it's in war, or the death penalty? Does Abraham attempting to sacrifice his son count?
And that's just a _single word change._ Did that even make their list of 0.1-0.2%?
I want that angry Jesus picture. XD
Me. Too! 😅🤣
If Christianity's true, I have a two foot shlong. (and I also believe leprechauns live in my sock drawer) LOL 🤣
So much "because *other people* said so", on top of "because bible". Conformity pressure. Desire to be in the club. Rgh,
I find it interesting that he says that Jesus was born and then lived a perfect life. I'm pretty sure the Bible talks about his birth, and then the next mention of him is 30 years later. That's a pretty big chunk of his life that we have no idea about, and even the Bible gives no details about. Even worse according to Christian scholars he only started his teaching and gathering followers 7-8 years before his death. So he died when he was approximately 38, so we literally don't know anything about the majority of his life.
“Wouldn’t die for a lie” applies to every God (especially the Abrahamic gods); since they’re so homicidal
The Christian naïveté affirms and reaffirms justification for atheism, rock solid affirmation! Excellent work SkepTick!!!
'the SkepTick just became the MissTick'
Congrats on your transition ;)
MysTick. But I’ll accept either.
@@TheSkepTick I'm fully aware ;D
Tradition ?
Antiquity does not confer veracity.
Intercessory prayer when dealing with a tri-omni god is one of the most problematic issues for such a religion.
I will not stand by Jar Jar slander. He's a gungan war hero for his fantastic work against the droid armies.
That's what Darth Jar WANTS you to believe...
A "90%" accurate copy of the Mona Lisa would be an absolutely terrible fake. Apparently only having a "terrible fake" of the original Bible, doesn't seem to matter to apologists.
The willed ignorance is palpable, they all know they live in a world with a plurality of beliefs and the only way to maintain this argument style is to choose to continue to believe in their message that has been repeatedly discredited.... In other words THEY'RE LYING.... The irony would be hilarious if they were hurting fewer people .
When they say “seekers of truth” they mean “seekers of Christ”. The two words, jesus and truth are the same thing to them. Even if they don’t realize it.
“I am the way, the TRUTH and the light.” They think Jesus literally IS truth. This is the one verse every single xtian knows, and the first one they learned when they were toddlers. It’s called indoctrination for a reason. It’s multidirectional and constant.
They conflate truth and conviction.
12:25 you know what, i WILL eat a banana every week. And stare into your... circle, the whole time.
0:17 He said, lying.
Thanks!
I thought I had a weird feeling in my bloodpump once... turned out it was actually in my fartpump, and I just needed to float an air biscuit. Praise Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe for giving us the ability to vent digestive gases in a way that brings such joy! Moor Hen!
reminds me of the terminator.
sent it's self to come and die from the future lol
I find it strange how these arguments and behaviours are only seen as bad when it comes from a religious ideology, but not when it comes from social or political ideology.
I'm just curious of examples of social or political ideologies doing these behaviors because I'm drawing a blank on any that aren't just religion dressed up as a social movement or political ideology that pray, use martyrs to demonstrate that they're true (plenty remember/honor martyrs but that isn't the same thing), or argue "true because book" or "true because people become better". Maybe it's just me drawing a blank here, so I'm hoping you have some examples!
Thank you.
I am sure there are many religious people, that I think that what they believe, is true. So is it a lie, when they honestly believe, what they tell you is true? But then again, you can only state something it’s true, if you have evidence to back it up. Unfortunately, that is where religion falls down. A book says a thing, is not evidence. Especially a book, written decades, even centuries, after the event is supposed to have happened, by several anonymous authors. 😊