lanelafisking I think it’s in relation to the context. The first utterance was just ‘shit’, and the second was ‘the shit’, referring to the stuff he put up with when he ran ECW
Heyman is a pure wrestling genius,he predicted how the Monday Night Wars would end up,he predicted Austin's success,and he has unbelievable skill to pick talents
@LG 215 And you have a fake moniker. You’re probably embarrassed by your name besides your physical aspect. Go ahead, give me a passionate EC-DUB EC-DUB chant 😂. Keep the company alive!!!!😂
And just a few months later The Rock was doing the exact character that Heyman talks about here. And because he was so good at it, the fans went right back to loving him again, even though he was a villain.
Yeah but Paul Heyman when he had the long hair with the ponytail, wore the baseball cap (because he was balding on top) and that long black shiny jacket which looked like it was made of latex rather than leather made him look some sort of pervert who hung around Central Park waiting for someone to flash or someone who masturbates while watching kids in a play park. But since he cut his hair and wears a suit he looks much better and respectable like a businessman which people what to see like and how Paul Heyman would like to be remembered by the fans and not the pervert look of the ECW days and early WWE days. When I was 27 my hair started to thin on top so I’ve shaved my head bald ever since and I can’t understand why some men when they start to go bald grow what hair they do have long like Heyman or do the comb over thing.
He didn't refuse to put Lesnar over, he just thought it should have been a PPV match and that losing to Lesnar made him look weak while not making Lesnar all that strong. In any case he was right and Lesnar did end up spitting in the faces of all the guys who put him over by leaving the company.
Taker lost to Lesnar and people say it was the wrong thing to do. I think he should of did it, put Lesnar over as a huge breakout match. Then have Austin return to a huge pop down the road.
@@LilRocco414 well what matters is how Steve felt. Because honestly WWE started devaluing him as soon as WCW was dead. If not for Steve WWE would’ve lost and slowly but surely they didn’t care about that anymore and that’s messed up. The guy the saved the company deserves to be respected, a lot more than he was at that time
I wonder if Steve not putting brock over was partly why hogan let lesnar kill him. It's like, "boy, now Austin's really going to look bad." Conspiracy theory probably but shit I still can't believe brock basically murdered hogan on smackdown.
@xKyleChaosx would've been a full circle moment, too, since Austin had his first big moment winning KOTR. But, it's been documented heavily. Austin was burnt out. When you're burnt out you're not thinking clearly. I think a clear minded Austin would've had an awesome PPV match with lesnar. Really, though, can we complain? That rock brock match at SS was so good.
6:39: Paul Heyman's genius in a nutshell. And the reason why he and Vince, while they can obviously work together in some aspects, will always clash on some things. They're very much alike.
Paul is a genius. A mastermind in the world of Wrestling. He's one of the few men in the business that I personally look up to just for life in general.
And he is a compulsive liar who ruined people's lives through his backstabbing and bullshit.. people love to create their own narratives. If that's your role model then you are a fucking moron.
The Steve took his ball and went home perspective is kind of bs. This isn’t just any Star, this is the guy that saved the WWF from losing the Monday night war. His character sparked a change in the company that others got on board with. He deserved more respect than being jobbed on Monday night raw in the same way you’d use a mid card performer. Guarantee Vince wouldn’t have treated Steve like that in 1998
back in 06 Cena was the number 1 fan favorite, maybe not so much anymore but he still has lots of fans. They need to change his character back to the Cena we all loved. I'm still a huge Cena fan.
If Heyman stayed with WWE all those years ago, let me repeat, IF he did it would be a completely different company, no denying that. He was and still is to this day, in my opinion the smartest guy in the industry. Not to take anything away from other wrestlers or people like Vince etc. but Heyman knows what he's talking about 100% all day everyday.
Paul Heyman is no Vince Russo! Russo created the Attitude Era, Sable, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Rock, Mick Foley, D-Generation X (not forgetting Generation Me aka The Young bucks), nWo 2000, The New Age Outlaws, Triple H, Val Venus and many more successful people in the business! I never saw TNA so I can’t comment on his time there but we all know he’s the greatest “writer” ever bro
Heyman’s wrestling IQ has always been awe inspiring. He was talking about Rock going for a heel Hollywood character before it even happened. And it ended up being the Rocks best character to this day.
Landsberg must hold the record for most interesting pro wrestling interviews. He had Vince on there OOC at times when you never thought that would happen.
@@NiFeGetsTubey Agreed. Actually was a fairly big fan of Landsberg being Canadian but when he interrupts people it drives me nuts lol. Definitely good at his job though.
Watching this after seeing him go into the HOF is telling Heyman was a visionary and has been forever. Seeing ECW back the day as a kid, you felt part of it. I've only had that happen a handfull of times with WWE.
Paul the Visionary and Genius predicting The Rock's heel turn (or perhaps coming up with the idea at that very moment) which would be used only months later :)
Paul Heyman is a superintelligent guy, and he has a vast amount of knowledge on the industry, but the obnoxious host continuously interrupts him. Every 5 words, the host completely switches directions. I'd much rather just listen to Heyman shoot for 22 minutes
Paul is such mastermind and genius when come to wrestling ideas and storylines and all. I feel paul would be better take over wwe nowadays then the McMahon families
I wish Landsberg could just drop this insincere hype mode he's permanently stuck in. It's like, these topics are interesting enough in their own right, you don't have to get so over-the-top with your tone and delivery. And as soon as he gets Heyman saying something interesting, he just plows on through to his next scripted question without following up.
Seriously, it's hard to interview someone when you interrupt them with every single fucking question. People watch for the interviewee's answers and opinions; let the guy fucking speak.
I think it's because the shows are only allowed around 20mins air time, stuff like this often happens on short interviews so the interviewer can get through most of his questions in time, as usually legends like Paul Heyman could chat for hours about their experiences in the wrestling bussines.
"Vince McMahon will put his ego aside if it's good for business." Yeah, that's why the WWF royally botched the InVasion angle - the most idiot-proof angle in the history of wrestling.
Austin had every right to shoot down jobbing to Lesnar at a trash KOTR qualifying match with zero build. That match could have been a WRESTLEMANIA/SUMMERSLAM money making Banger. I think Vince was trying to push Lesnar fast and jumped the gun with that KOTR match and was clearly not thinking it through.
"He loves to wrestle. What is he 53?...." Who would have known 30 years later that Ric would still be wrestling. He's retired 3 times. Just had his retirement match on PPV. Everyone came to watch for the last time......SIKEEE! It was announced today he is starting to train for more matches. It's tragic and just extremely sad :/
Actually, the censorship is a little lighter in Canada. There are a certain number of uses of certain words allowed, so the first beep was just appeasing the censorship rules.
it was LEAGUES aboveRAW, All RAW was, was Triple H burying ex- ECW and WCW guys while hold in the WHC. THe only thing watchable was HHH/HBK feud but then they stole all the spotlight from that show while everything else was just midcard Smackdown had great booking and like 3 awesome storylines each progressing with goodpace until the PPVs
Smartest guys in prowrestling. I'd say that Cornette is number one, Rogowski is number two and Heyman is number three. That's identical to my list of the top three least appreciated names in prowrestling as well.
Looking back at that interview with Lansberg.Heyman is a genius.He has always been miles ahead of everyone else.....Except for Vince,for better or worse!!
Mad looking back at this. Paul telling us that the Rock should not come back from Hollywood unless he's a heel. I wonder whose idea it was for the Wrestlemania pivot??
It had to do with Austin not agreeing with the way in which it was handled and how it wasn't hyped up as a PPV (he also felt Lesnar was handed a golden ticket he didn't really earn in the business) By the way....Lesnar has always walked in the door; been given what he wanted and then left shortly after (NFL, WWE, UFC)
Man ive noticed it before but he seemed to do it alot this time..... this guy ask a question and before Paul can finish his the last few words of his sentence this guy interrupts him w the next question..... dam near does it every single time especially toward the end..... I will say out of all the people who once or are currently in charge or own a wrestling company Paul seems like the most down to earth out of all
You guy's he only has a limited amount of time any interviewer will know that and I"m sure Paul knew that before even doing the show. He ask's as many questions as he can and keeps the interview going for the audience watching at home.
ah, man...Paul Heyman talking about the "Hollywood" Rock character long before it happened. Have to believe that he is the one who made that character happen when Rock returned
I partly agree with you, but the difference is that Angle could wrestle, he didn't look like a power ranger/action man in the ring kicking out of well-established finishers left, right and center.
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"yo I think we should censor that swear at 5:10?"
"yeah no worries. what about the one at 5:17?"
"nah"
lanelafisking yeah gotta love it!
lanelafisking ha ha, I noticed that too!
First thing I was about to comment on myself haha!
lanelafisking I think it’s in relation to the context. The first utterance was just ‘shit’, and the second was ‘the shit’, referring to the stuff he put up with when he ran ECW
LETS GO!!!
Heyman is a pure wrestling genius,he predicted how the Monday Night Wars would end up,he predicted Austin's success,and he has unbelievable skill to pick talents
Yet he wasn't a "genius" with his own company that went right in the toilet.
chrishasaclue Sorry, not every promoter has a rich father with alot of money.
If I had a wrestling promotion. I’ll make Paul Heyman the executive writer. But the business side will be up to me. I’m not over paying for no talent.
@LG 215 oh suuure. A couple of nerds kept chanting the company’s name. That definitely prevented paychecks from bouncing 😂
@LG 215 And you have a fake moniker. You’re probably embarrassed by your name besides your physical aspect. Go ahead, give me a passionate EC-DUB EC-DUB chant 😂. Keep the company alive!!!!😂
And just a few months later The Rock was doing the exact character that Heyman talks about here. And because he was so good at it, the fans went right back to loving him again, even though he was a villain.
I could listen to Paul talk wrestling all day.
Yeah but Paul Heyman when he had the long hair with the ponytail, wore the baseball cap (because he was balding on top) and that long black shiny jacket which looked like it was made of latex rather than leather made him look some sort of pervert who hung around Central Park waiting for someone to flash or someone who masturbates while watching kids in a play park. But since he cut his hair and wears a suit he looks much better and respectable like a businessman which people what to see like and how Paul Heyman would like to be remembered by the fans and not the pervert look of the ECW days and early WWE days. When I was 27 my hair started to thin on top so I’ve shaved my head bald ever since and I can’t understand why some men when they start to go bald grow what hair they do have long like Heyman or do the comb over thing.
Paul Heyman created Hollywood Rock... Now we know
It's coming from Paul Heyman = 100% mind-bubbing
We always knew. He was the writer for smackdown at that time.
@@PodunkLib Hollywood Rock exclusively on Raw...
@@GGson123 Started on SmackDown though? Right?
@@emmanuelmoses7249 Yup sure did.
He didn't refuse to put Lesnar over, he just thought it should have been a PPV match and that losing to Lesnar made him look weak while not making Lesnar all that strong. In any case he was right and Lesnar did end up spitting in the faces of all the guys who put him over by leaving the company.
Taker lost to Lesnar and people say it was the wrong thing to do. I think he should of did it, put Lesnar over as a huge breakout match. Then have Austin return to a huge pop down the road.
@@LilRocco414 well what matters is how Steve felt. Because honestly WWE started devaluing him as soon as WCW was dead. If not for Steve WWE would’ve lost and slowly but surely they didn’t care about that anymore and that’s messed up. The guy the saved the company deserves to be respected, a lot more than he was at that time
I wonder if Steve not putting brock over was partly why hogan let lesnar kill him. It's like, "boy, now Austin's really going to look bad." Conspiracy theory probably but shit I still can't believe brock basically murdered hogan on smackdown.
I'll never understand why the finals of the KOTR couldn't have been Austin Vs. Lesnar with Lesnar beating him there.
@xKyleChaosx would've been a full circle moment, too, since Austin had his first big moment winning KOTR. But, it's been documented heavily. Austin was burnt out. When you're burnt out you're not thinking clearly. I think a clear minded Austin would've had an awesome PPV match with lesnar. Really, though, can we complain? That rock brock match at SS was so good.
Bleep out the first "shit," but not the second. Seems legit.
wow, he forseen rocks hollywood character before came back that year
foresaw*
6:39: Paul Heyman's genius in a nutshell. And the reason why he and Vince, while they can obviously work together in some aspects, will always clash on some things. They're very much alike.
There ya go. What I've been saying.
"Vince loves competition!" LOL Paul is a genius! Vince admitted so on the Pat McAfee show.
Vince called him clever.
Paul is a genius. A mastermind in the world of Wrestling. He's one of the few men in the business that I personally look up to just for life in general.
And he is a compulsive liar who ruined people's lives through his backstabbing and bullshit.. people love to create their own narratives. If that's your role model then you are a fucking moron.
Don't take financial advice from him or you'll be broke...
Other than that, Heyman is a GREAT wrestling mind
Yup hes definitely a genius, but among the elites he is a B+ player unfortunately.
His personality is what allows Paul to transcend to a level beyond his true abilities in buisness.
Paul Heyman is probably the best thing about wrestling at the moment
The Steve took his ball and went home perspective is kind of bs. This isn’t just any Star, this is the guy that saved the WWF from losing the Monday night war. His character sparked a change in the company that others got on board with. He deserved more respect than being jobbed on Monday night raw in the same way you’d use a mid card performer. Guarantee Vince wouldn’t have treated Steve like that in 1998
No top guy would have gone for that. Had to laugh at Triple H saying Austin shouldn't be welcomed back, as if Trips would have laid down either.
back in 06 Cena was the number 1 fan favorite, maybe not so much anymore but he still has lots of fans. They need to change his character back to the Cena we all loved. I'm still a huge Cena fan.
Booker T and RVD were great answers for "most underrated". RVD especially was over like rover in 2001.
I'm a heyman guy like all the work he does to push talent and make wrestling edgy wish he ciuld take control of raw or smackdown
If Heyman stayed with WWE all those years ago, let me repeat, IF he did it would be a completely different company, no denying that. He was and still is to this day, in my opinion the smartest guy in the industry. Not to take anything away from other wrestlers or people like Vince etc. but Heyman knows what he's talking about 100% all day everyday.
Paul Heyman is no Vince Russo! Russo created the Attitude Era, Sable, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Rock, Mick Foley, D-Generation X (not forgetting Generation Me aka The Young bucks), nWo 2000, The New Age Outlaws, Triple H, Val Venus and many more successful people in the business! I never saw TNA so I can’t comment on his time there but we all know he’s the greatest “writer” ever bro
I never watched this in a min.Michael always does dope wrestling interviews.
He is a dope 😂 the people he had on were fantastic but he always talked over the top of them
Heyman’s wrestling IQ has always been awe inspiring. He was talking about Rock going for a heel Hollywood character before it even happened. And it ended up being the Rocks best character to this day.
Always rely on Paul Heyman to tell it like it is.
And lie.
Bret**
I agree with your comment n I disagree with his comment n the other comment I'm neutral on
Heyman seems like a nice guy, even at the end of the interview he was the first to extend his hand n I enjoy listening to him
Landsberg must hold the record for most interesting pro wrestling interviews. He had Vince on there OOC at times when you never thought that would happen.
I like how knowledgeable he is. Reminds me of like a Pat McAfee type. The only thing I hate is when he interrupts his guests.
@@NiFeGetsTubey Agreed. Actually was a fairly big fan of Landsberg being Canadian but when he interrupts people it drives me nuts lol. Definitely good at his job though.
They censor shit at 5:13 and not two seconds later. 💀💀
Watching this after seeing him go into the HOF is telling Heyman was a visionary and has been forever. Seeing ECW back the day as a kid, you felt part of it. I've only had that happen a handfull of times with WWE.
Paul Heyman is a genius.
He makes Vince seem like a god ..
Well Vince is the guy who’s signs his paycheck.
Paul the Visionary and Genius predicting The Rock's heel turn (or perhaps coming up with the idea at that very moment) which would be used only months later :)
dude it doesnt take a genius to realize that fans will react negatively to the classic "hollywood bigshot" persona
just let Paul talk for hours
OTR always had THE ABSOLUTE BEST! Interviews
Paul Heyman is a superintelligent guy, and he has a vast amount of knowledge on the industry, but the obnoxious host continuously interrupts him. Every 5 words, the host completely switches directions. I'd much rather just listen to Heyman shoot for 22 minutes
Amazing…Heyman is talking about the rock as a heel 20 years before working with the rock as a heel in the bloodline..
bring back the 90s wwe
Paul is such mastermind and genius when come to wrestling ideas and storylines and all. I feel paul would be better take over wwe nowadays then the McMahon families
I wish Landsberg could just drop this insincere hype mode he's permanently stuck in. It's like, these topics are interesting enough in their own right, you don't have to get so over-the-top with your tone and delivery. And as soon as he gets Heyman saying something interesting, he just plows on through to his next scripted question without following up.
He won't let him explain or talk. That is annoying from anyone giving an interview.
Great interview
hands down. the best mind in wrestling, just a terrible business man. (former ECW stars will attest to that!)
gillan bowd Jim Cornette couldn’t make money when no one was. Paul Heyman couldn’t make money when everyone was.
thanks a lot, this was an awesome shoot
I m so a Paul Heyman' guy !!! This man knows better than anyone what is good for business !!
Haymen is right about the writing staff. no point having the same views as ease other
Seriously, it's hard to interview someone when you interrupt them with every single fucking question. People watch for the interviewee's answers and opinions; let the guy fucking speak.
I think it's because the shows are only allowed around 20mins air time, stuff like this often happens on short interviews so the interviewer can get through most of his questions in time, as usually legends like Paul Heyman could chat for hours about their experiences in the wrestling bussines.
Tna needs heyman!!
Jas Minge only if they would listen to him, but yea tna could use him.
Chris Green About 8-10 years too late.
he truly have a great mind.
on the creative side he's a genius, on the financial/dealing side, eh, not so much.
WWE need Heyman in Lead Writer again
Pauls two underrated guys became Hall of Famers in WWE.
This interview was conducted in 2002
"Vince McMahon will put his ego aside if it's good for business." Yeah, that's why the WWF royally botched the InVasion angle - the most idiot-proof angle in the history of wrestling.
Except it only was a botch because the main wcw guys were on contracts where they could stay home...
@@raiderglace8641 How ironic that a guy whose screen name is “1ex1uger” didn’t know that.
took me a few min to understand this is 2002 interview .
Paul Heyman invented the Final Boss Rock in this Interview
Most underrated..."Booker t n rvd"...he didn't take long forbthat
I was referring to Rock in 2003, when he came back before WrestleMania 19 and was a heel, playing off of his Hollywood fame.
Austin had every right to shoot down jobbing to Lesnar at a trash KOTR qualifying match with zero build. That match could have been a WRESTLEMANIA/SUMMERSLAM money making Banger. I think Vince was trying to push Lesnar fast and jumped the gun with that KOTR match and was clearly not thinking it through.
Right off the bat, I can see Paul has a lot of respect for Steve and understands why he did what he did and didn’t use it for cheap heat for Lesnar.
"He loves to wrestle. What is he 53?...." Who would have known 30 years later that Ric would still be wrestling. He's retired 3 times. Just had his retirement match on PPV. Everyone came to watch for the last time......SIKEEE! It was announced today he is starting to train for more matches. It's tragic and just extremely sad :/
He's retired a lot more than 3 times.
Paul Heyman is suck a creative mastermind, and if Vince will give him the keys to Monday Night RAW if he wants it to succeed.
Actually, the censorship is a little lighter in Canada. There are a certain number of uses of certain words allowed, so the first beep was just appeasing the censorship rules.
I'm so sick of hearing that Austin took his ball and went home he took his life back is what he did
it was LEAGUES aboveRAW,
All RAW was, was Triple H burying ex- ECW and WCW guys while hold in the WHC. THe only thing watchable was HHH/HBK feud but then they stole all the spotlight from that show while everything else was just midcard
Smackdown had great booking and like 3 awesome storylines each progressing with goodpace until the PPVs
Greenkidd HBK could make ANYBODY look good
Paul is a genuis,entertaining and knows his shit
Smartest guys in prowrestling. I'd say that Cornette is number one, Rogowski is number two and Heyman is number three. That's identical to my list of the top three least appreciated names in prowrestling as well.
Comments about The Rock around the 7:00 mark were like a crystal ball because it's exactly how he came back..
+Patrick Haggan he was being a heel while being a babyface at the same time.
+Patrick Haggan As well as Batista in 2014
Paul predicted wcw losing the Monday night wars too
Looking back at that interview with Lansberg.Heyman is a genius.He has always been miles ahead of everyone else.....Except for Vince,for better or worse!!
World Wildlife Fund and yes, they called themselves WWF for a lot longer than Vince.
Heyman is in full Vince-McMahon-flattery mode. Interview him again once he's out of WWE. You'll get totally different answers.
This relationship between WWE and TSN was awesome
This must’ve been sometime between 2002-2003.
Mad looking back at this. Paul telling us that the Rock should not come back from Hollywood unless he's a heel. I wonder whose idea it was for the Wrestlemania pivot??
I love that he mentions Bogart and The Caine Mutiny.
I love Paul Heyman :)
I think taking the WWE public was the worst thing that ever happened to that company
WCW going tits up was the second worst thing
It had to do with Austin not agreeing with the way in which it was handled and how it wasn't hyped up as a PPV (he also felt Lesnar was handed a golden ticket he didn't really earn in the business)
By the way....Lesnar has always walked in the door; been given what he wanted and then left shortly after (NFL, WWE, UFC)
Nah the nfl gave him a try out for a day or two and told him go home Brock
For The Record, Michael Landsberg does all of his interviews like tht. Cuts off everyone all the time.
I love how Heyman is allways an heel and certainlly I allways saw him like that and here we can see that he is a very funny guy
When he was talking about stone cold walking out it's wierdly similar to when cm punk walked out.
Probably in 2002, If you notice them talking about Steve Austin walking out of the company, it happened around mid 2002
Paul has lied to the wrestlers but never lied to the fans
Paul rules!
the guy who does the censoring probably said shit as well since he missed it
You know you are a Canadian show when you are sponsored by Tim Horton’s.
TNA should've gave this man a blank check and full control to their brand
A blank check? Shut up.
@@rubberchix nah you shut up.
FUnny interview I love heyman
Herman is clearly an intelligent, seemingly honest likeable guy
Damn, Paul Heyman 12 years and 120 lbs. ago!
Paul is probably overall the best talker
Man ive noticed it before but he seemed to do it alot this time..... this guy ask a question and before Paul can finish his the last few words of his sentence this guy interrupts him w the next question..... dam near does it every single time especially toward the end..... I will say out of all the people who once or are currently in charge or own a wrestling company Paul seems like the most down to earth out of all
You guy's he only has a limited amount of time any interviewer will know that and I"m sure Paul knew that before even doing the show. He ask's as many questions as he can and keeps the interview going for the audience watching at home.
ah, man...Paul Heyman talking about the "Hollywood" Rock character long before it happened. Have to believe that he is the one who made that character happen when Rock returned
Lansberg is right about the WWE having no stars left after Austin and Rock left. It was ravaged like a projects at that late 2003 time.
This brings back memories.....oh the irony
because he is
Is the Keg steakhouse and bar still open? I could go a steak and a keg rn ❤
returning heel Rock!
genius!
20:21 “WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO BACK THERE??!!”
the keg steakhouse and BAAAAARRRRR
😂😂😂
if i had my own federation, sorry, sports entrainment company...id want paul heyman to run it!
The job of the person doing the interview is to control it.He is doing what he is supposed to not just let the other person talk and take control.
I never considered ecw an independent company they were the 3rd in what i consider the major leagues in the United States in the 90s
17:40 Heyman is basically saying Rob had bad mic skills without saying it lol
Too bad Rock didn't come back as a heel. Hopefully he will his next return
Totally agree
i was referring to his most recent return in 2012 i think it was
Mr_SWAT_585 That was a great angle he mentioned though that could still be used
I loved Paul lol
I partly agree with you, but the difference is that Angle could wrestle, he didn't look like a power ranger/action man in the ring kicking out of well-established finishers left, right and center.