I know it has been awhile but I was thinking of getting one of these but heard of some serious intonation troubles from E down, what was your opinion? Also can you tell me if you bought the bottom caps separately, can't seem to find the flugel with those?
Mine is very in tune in all registers that I can play in. The bottom caps came like this on both of the horn I have/had. --> www.thomannmusic.com/thomann_fh_900j_raw_jazz_bb_flugelhorn.htm
ah I see that is a great callout... I have the unfinished model as well, in raw brass and that one hasn't changed much. I actually like the tight or "hard" springs but that can always be swapped out, actually I wonder if I did that already and have simply forgotten that I did lol
Hello, I think I fell in love with that sound..! How does the horn sound in the upper register? (not too high, but notes hovering around high C..just above the staff) Although flugelhorns are not for high notes, I was just curious...
All I can say here is that this horn plays up there in the high register just as well as any other horn I have but... I am not a high note player at all so a D above high C is about all I ever, and that is VERY rare, play in that range... I am pretty much all below A/B and even then it's pretty much a quick run past those higher notes... I almost always switch to trumpet if I really need something way up there... but again I am not a high note player at all :) thanks !
@@GarotMichaelConklin Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful comment..! Your explanation is helpful enough. I have been considering buying a horn with a mellower tone these days, but I have a tight budget.. and I came across this video!! I think I should try that model when it is back in stock. Hope you are doing well in these tough days.. Thanks so much again! -from a fellow (amateur) musician in Korea-
Hello, thank you very much for teaching us... I have been playing the trumpet every day for three years... I like to improvise jazz And now I'd like to try the flugelhorn: have you tried the fh-1000 or do you think it's more worthwhile than the fh-900? I'll try the Soundfresh mouthpiece🙏🏼👌 Thank you very much again, it's a pleasure to listen to your musical interpretations and explanations.
Hello again✋🏼I'm curious to know if you prefer the colour of sound from this flugelhorn, or the other one from (the 900 series without lacquer (fh-909J Raw) Thank you.
Hello, I also have a Thomann flugelhorn, I want to buy a KGU trim kit but I have doubts if the input of the Yamaha flugelhorns fit, the other question is about the spring, it is stuck to the base, no other model that I know of is So, I think the bottom cap would be impossible to assemble, what do you think? I would like to know what you recommend 🙏🏼
if the spring appears attached to the bottom cap, that is just "stuck" at the moment, they are NOT attached permanently, you can just gently turn the spring and it will release from the bottom cap, I have actually tried some different springs on mine just to see if there is any difference in "feel" as I really like the stock springs but not sure what they are in terms of gauge. As for the trim kit, I would bet that there isn't one by default, but I would reach out to @KGUmusic directly as they are excellent with customer service and have actually made custom caps and bottoms for me for an older Conn 16B horn I have, so send them an email and they can help you for sure :)
@@GarotMichaelConklin Hello, thank you very much for the help. I have one more question, do you know if the yamaha booby shew mouthpiece fits into the thomann flugelhorn pipe?
That is the one thing that I have not had any issues with at all.. the intonation on the 2 horns that I have (had, I did sell one) were spot on. There may be a mismatch with the mouthpiece that you are using but again I have over 100 mouthpieces and while I'm certain I have not used them all in that horn, none of them had any intonation issues for me.
@@GarotMichaelConklin You are blessed man! mine has intonation issues and I live in sunny Malaysia where good trumpet technicians are as extinct as the Dodo.
Ciao Michael scusami se ogni tanto ti disturbo ho visto che su i tuoi video che usi sia il flicorno Thomann 900 j ho il 900 jsl sai anche dirmi se ce' differenza di suono fra loro in attesa di una tua risposta buone feste buona musica e vale sempre per una spaghettata in Italia
Non ho riscontrato alcuna differenza tra le trombe in base al tipo di finitura che hanno. Detto questo, possiedo un numero maggiore di trombe in ottone grezzo o non finito. Nell'impostazione di registrazione in cui suono più spesso, non ho notato differenze marcate nel tono o nel volume. Forse questo è qualcosa che è più evidente in un concerto dal vivo, dove l'acustica della stanza gioca un ruolo molto significativo nel suono del corno nell'auditorium.
grazie come sempre gentilissimo nel rispondermi in breve tempo comunque il Thomann 900j come descrivevi per il costo contenuto suona molto bene continua con i video che sono molto belli e istruttivi grazie ancora e buone feste e buona musica @@GarotMichaelConklin
Oooo I've never played an Adams but have considered them several times... That is a wonderful horn for sure. To be fair, this Thomann is really a great sounding horn, and that is not just my own opinion, many people in the custom builder world have agreed that "somehow" Thomann made an outstanding sounding horn here at a ridiculous price point, that said they are pretty lacking in "fit and finish" so that part is a little disappointing overall, but doesn't impact their tone or playability.
Man, you are making that horn sound Great!!!
No lie it’s really a great sounding horn. Thanks very much :)
Very nice horn! Sounds great and can't beat that price!! Thanks for sharing.
I still have it and it still plays just as good as day one !!
Got one in rose gold....$315 out the door......can't beat it!!!!
heck ya !! lol I mean how can you go wrong right?
killer sound..
Super sound !
thanks !!
Wow that sounds awesome!
Better late than never ... !! Thanks for the kind words :)
I have one of these. You sound great on it
Sorry for the delay here, thanks very much !! It's a fun horn and so affordable it's hard to NOT get one !! lol
I sold this one... great horn but needed to consolidate for another Schilke lol #addiction!!
Nice
thank you kindly :)
I know it has been awhile but I was thinking of getting one of these but heard of some serious intonation troubles from E down, what was your opinion? Also can you tell me if you bought the
bottom caps separately, can't seem to find the flugel with those?
Mine is very in tune in all registers that I can play in. The bottom caps came like this on both of the horn I have/had. --> www.thomannmusic.com/thomann_fh_900j_raw_jazz_bb_flugelhorn.htm
I want one!
They are nice horns !!
Yes, an interesting bugle. Good sound, harmonious intonation. But! - tight springs, poor coating, after six months it began to wear off
ah I see that is a great callout... I have the unfinished model as well, in raw brass and that one hasn't changed much. I actually like the tight or "hard" springs but that can always be swapped out, actually I wonder if I did that already and have simply forgotten that I did lol
Hello, I think I fell in love with that sound..! How does the horn sound in the upper register? (not too high, but notes hovering around high C..just above the staff) Although flugelhorns are not for high notes, I was just curious...
All I can say here is that this horn plays up there in the high register just as well as any other horn I have but... I am not a high note player at all so a D above high C is about all I ever, and that is VERY rare, play in that range... I am pretty much all below A/B and even then it's pretty much a quick run past those higher notes... I almost always switch to trumpet if I really need something way up there... but again I am not a high note player at all :) thanks !
@@GarotMichaelConklin Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful comment..! Your explanation is helpful enough. I have been considering buying a horn with a mellower tone these days, but I have a tight budget.. and I came across this video!! I think I should try that model when it is back in stock. Hope you are doing well in these tough days.. Thanks so much again! -from a fellow (amateur) musician in Korea-
Hey Garot can you do a lesson how to make bebop lines…kinda broken chords/raps and enclosures…please help me understand this 😄👍🏾
Paul deStexhe plays this on his youtube channel and it sounds great there also. Guess this is going to be my first flugel horn!
its a great horn all around IMO
How is it 3 years later?
Hello, thank you very much for teaching us... I have been playing the trumpet every day for three years...
I like to improvise jazz
And now I'd like to try the flugelhorn: have you tried the fh-1000 or do you think it's more worthwhile than the fh-900?
I'll try the Soundfresh mouthpiece🙏🏼👌
Thank you very much again, it's a pleasure to listen to your musical interpretations and explanations.
I have only been playing flugelhorn for a short time as well but when I found it I knew it was perfect for me and have loved it ever since.
Hello again✋🏼I'm curious to know if you prefer the colour of sound from this flugelhorn, or the other one from (the 900 series without lacquer (fh-909J Raw)
Thank you.
I can say that I didn't notice any difference at all between the satin and raw models. They played equally well and sounded identical :)
@@GarotMichaelConklin thanks a lot !👌
It is an inspiration to hear how you feel the music and you transmit this with your performances👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Have you ever tried out the Dillon flugelhorn?
I have not but the Dillon Opus looks really nice !!
Hello, I also have a Thomann flugelhorn, I want to buy a KGU trim kit but I have doubts if the input of the Yamaha flugelhorns fit, the other question is about the spring, it is stuck to the base, no other model that I know of is So, I think the bottom cap would be impossible to assemble, what do you think? I would like to know what you recommend 🙏🏼
if the spring appears attached to the bottom cap, that is just "stuck" at the moment, they are NOT attached permanently, you can just gently turn the spring and it will release from the bottom cap, I have actually tried some different springs on mine just to see if there is any difference in "feel" as I really like the stock springs but not sure what they are in terms of gauge. As for the trim kit, I would bet that there isn't one by default, but I would reach out to @KGUmusic directly as they are excellent with customer service and have actually made custom caps and bottoms for me for an older Conn 16B horn I have, so send them an email and they can help you for sure :)
@@GarotMichaelConklin
Hello, thank you very much for the help. I have one more question, do you know if the yamaha booby shew mouthpiece fits into the thomann flugelhorn pipe?
Why so high prices fot the Asymmetric mouthpieces?
not sure really, but mouthpieces can be rather expensive... and I don't even own a Monette lol !!
Do you find the Thomann 's intonation going off? Any ideas on how to rectify?
That is the one thing that I have not had any issues with at all.. the intonation on the 2 horns that I have (had, I did sell one) were spot on. There may be a mismatch with the mouthpiece that you are using but again I have over 100 mouthpieces and while I'm certain I have not used them all in that horn, none of them had any intonation issues for me.
@@GarotMichaelConklin You are blessed man! mine has intonation issues and I live in sunny Malaysia where good trumpet technicians are as extinct as the Dodo.
Would be great if you could share some of your licks here on YT :-)
not sure what you mean here... I am playing one in this video... did you mean a chart of what I am playing? Thanks for the comment :)
Ciao Michael scusami se ogni tanto ti disturbo ho visto che su i tuoi video che usi sia il flicorno Thomann 900 j ho il 900 jsl sai anche dirmi se ce' differenza di suono fra loro in attesa di una tua risposta buone feste buona musica e vale sempre per una spaghettata in Italia
Non ho riscontrato alcuna differenza tra le trombe in base al tipo di finitura che hanno. Detto questo, possiedo un numero maggiore di trombe in ottone grezzo o non finito. Nell'impostazione di registrazione in cui suono più spesso, non ho notato differenze marcate nel tono o nel volume. Forse questo è qualcosa che è più evidente in un concerto dal vivo, dove l'acustica della stanza gioca un ruolo molto significativo nel suono del corno nell'auditorium.
grazie come sempre gentilissimo nel rispondermi in breve tempo comunque il Thomann 900j come descrivevi per il costo contenuto suona molto bene continua con i video che sono molto belli e istruttivi grazie ancora e buone feste e buona musica @@GarotMichaelConklin
Do you still have that Thomann flugelhorn, is it forsale?
I do have that horn still... it's just been in the case or a while... are you interested in buying it??? :)
@@GarotMichaelConklin I am
Model?
That is a Thomann 900J in satin finish :)
Man you got so much Mic tuning on that it's ridiculous🤔
I think these recordings were done with the iTrack pocket and it has a great reverb!!
You sound better on that Chinese horn than I do on my pricey Adams. LOL.
Oooo I've never played an Adams but have considered them several times... That is a wonderful horn for sure. To be fair, this Thomann is really a great sounding horn, and that is not just my own opinion, many people in the custom builder world have agreed that "somehow" Thomann made an outstanding sounding horn here at a ridiculous price point, that said they are pretty lacking in "fit and finish" so that part is a little disappointing overall, but doesn't impact their tone or playability.
Isn't Thomann German brand?
Thomann is a German music dealer, but that horn is a Chinese import.