I was one of the ones who almost bought this flugel after watching your earlier video about it but decided not to pull the trigger lol! I currently have a Carolbrass that is a really fine player. I also have an Edwards X-19 on order but it could take up to a year before I get it. BTW, Thomann has an excellent return policy so if anyone buys this or another one of their horns and don't like it, it can be returned without any problems. Great review of this horn, Garot! I know a lot of people were looking forward to this one!
I too have had good dealings with Thomann, aside from some items that they are unable to ship to the ISA, but that isn't really on them, that is on the manufacturers. :)
Oxidation marks are what you get with raw brass--they happen naturally and the luxury of raw brass is that you can choose between shining it up or letting it get filthy. Let it go filthy and it'll go black, brown, green, red. Don't worry about it at all--it seems like exactly what I'm expecting when my order arrives. Keep those black potato marks as well. They're part of the horn now. Very excited to see you gushing about this horn. I like that it seems to play well enough to have fun with it too and you make it sound great as well as it simply being a nice horn. Also, going off Thomann's site it looks like you have German shank and "normal" shank. The German shanks are 10mm and the standard shanks are 11mm, as German horns use slightly narrower bores. The site has separate listings for German shank mouthpieces which I think is very helpful, so I went and got a JK 4C with the right shank. Can't. Wait.
I have the fh900J raw brass model. Slowly getting a nice patina. This horn is well worth the money. I also have a Thomann pocket trumpet that is great. Will most likely get their TR 800 L MKII trumpet next. It has a beautiful engraved design on it and that is just the one I have had my eye on. Always look forward to your videos.
Thanks very much, and yes I would also imagine and agree that whatever/however Thomann is getting these horns made, they are really nice in this price point.
Can confirm as a comeback player your videos inspire me but also they're price prohibitive. Until now! I'd be so interested in taking this off your hands. Single Dad with a kid that I'm giving lessons to when I can cause she loves playing the trumpet 😇 hope you're well bud.
Ya horns can be a little ridiculous in price... I mean not saying they are not worth it, but a few G's is up there for many people these days... Glad to see places like Thomann and others that have cost reasonable offerings that are not total junk !!
I'm taking up horns again after 50-some years. I have a Bach cornet and two plastic trumpets that cost less than $200 each. I'm thinking about buying a plastic flugelhorn. I saw a trumpet player in an orchestra of old folks in The Atlanta area and his looked and sounded good. I also have a Crimean War bugle and several other bugles. A retired reporter, I'm enjoying this but would like your opinion on the plastic flugelhorn. Thanks.
I have not had a plastic Flugelhorn, but have has several P-Trumpets --> pbonemusic.com/instruments/ptrumpet and they were actually pretty nice IMO but the valves were a little "sticky" for me... I see they now have this one, www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/pTpthyTchBlk--pinstruments-ptrumpet-hytech-trumpet-black so perhaps that has resolved that one issue, otherwise I think they sounded great !! Not sure which flugelhorn you were looking at but this one looks pretty nice www.guitarcenter.com/Cool-Wind/CFG-200-Series-Plastic-Bb-Flugelhorn-Black-1500000189964.gc
@@GarotMichaelConklin Since I'm retired and just doing this for fun I don't wanna spend more than $200 on a flugle. I'm also trying to play a piccolo trumpet but nobody in Atlanta gives lessons! Keep making videos...thanks.
Hi Garot How s things . I've just asked my wife to buy me this flugel for my 59th bday in March. Just heard about the passing of quincy Jones RIP quincy ❤
I'm still on long term sick. If you are willing to share the flugel . I would love to take you up on the offer . It's Barry from the UK 🇬🇧. I've got a new you tube . Bless you .
I have a question! Does the Flugelhorn accept cornet shanks, or is it strictly for trumpet mouthpieces? Thank you for the updating regarding the horn, you’ve convinced me to consider purchasing one myself!
Ciao Michael , come prima cosa un salutone, poi volevo congratularmi per la barba e perfetta ti sta veramente bene . scusami volevo chiederti vedendo tanti video che hai fatto sul flicorno Thomann mi sono innamorato e ho acquistato come già ti avevo scritto tempo fa un 900JSL pensando che cambiasse solamente il colore ma mi sono accorto che suonando il flicorno 900J di un amico mi e' sembrato che suonasse più fluito, con anche 'con più armonici , il 900 JSL' molto più cupo molto più duro tu che gli hai provati tutte e due mi sai dire qualcosa in riguardo grazie - poi volevo chiederti anche per il flicorno 900J del video cosa hai usato per farlo cosi bello satinato grazie e buona musica
È bello risentirti, amico mio! Grazie anche per il commento sulla barba, detto questo, da allora me la sono rasata!! lol comunque, non ho trovato grandi differenze tra la tromba Satin Lacquer e la tromba Raw Brass in termini di suono. In questo video sto suonando un bocchino Bach 7FL. Mi piace la sensazione e il tono di Bach, ma ho molti, molti bocchini che funzionano in questo corno, quindi in larga misura questo è molto soggettivo :)
ciao Michael grazie per avermi risposto subito una curiosità che ore sono li ce' molta differenza di orario ? con l'Italia io sono un po' sonnambolo vado a letto tardi ti scrivo due righe e vado a cuccarmi ( DORMIRE ) comunque grazie sei sempre disponibile perdonami per brass parli della 900j esatto , mi sembra più fluito comunque come la fai suonare tu e fantastico qualsiasi imboccatura usi bello caldo bel flicorno grazie e ci sentiamo presto l'offerta spaghettata e' sempre aperta un salutone @@GarotMichaelConklin
I have both , the 900 and the 600G. Don´t buy the 900, the 600G is the horn to purchase. The 900 sounds dead, it is just a gimmick horn, listen to that guy. Do you want to sound like him??
I bought the 600G and returned it. If you like clear, trumpet-like tone, it is ok (it is a matter of taste, this guy doesn't sound bad at all for me), but some notes on the 600G are too much out of tune, it is not acceptable. While reading comments, I found out that many people have the same problem with the same notes (F2, for example, was terrible). So it seems to be a construction problem.
I was one of the ones who almost bought this flugel after watching your earlier video about it but decided not to pull the trigger lol! I currently have a Carolbrass that is a really fine player. I also have an Edwards X-19 on order but it could take up to a year before I get it. BTW, Thomann has an excellent return policy so if anyone buys this or another one of their horns and don't like it, it can be returned without any problems. Great review of this horn, Garot! I know a lot of people were looking forward to this one!
I too have had good dealings with Thomann, aside from some items that they are unable to ship to the ISA, but that isn't really on them, that is on the manufacturers. :)
Oxidation marks are what you get with raw brass--they happen naturally and the luxury of raw brass is that you can choose between shining it up or letting it get filthy. Let it go filthy and it'll go black, brown, green, red. Don't worry about it at all--it seems like exactly what I'm expecting when my order arrives. Keep those black potato marks as well. They're part of the horn now.
Very excited to see you gushing about this horn. I like that it seems to play well enough to have fun with it too and you make it sound great as well as it simply being a nice horn.
Also, going off Thomann's site it looks like you have German shank and "normal" shank. The German shanks are 10mm and the standard shanks are 11mm, as German horns use slightly narrower bores. The site has separate listings for German shank mouthpieces which I think is very helpful, so I went and got a JK 4C with the right shank. Can't. Wait.
I have the fh900J raw brass model. Slowly getting a nice patina. This horn is well worth the money. I also have a Thomann pocket trumpet that is great. Will most likely get their TR 800 L MKII trumpet next. It has a beautiful engraved design on it and that is just the one I have had my eye on. Always look forward to your videos.
Thanks very much, and yes I would also imagine and agree that whatever/however Thomann is getting these horns made, they are really nice in this price point.
Wonderfully marvelous inscrutable meanderings through the personal involutions of philanthropy.
Can confirm as a comeback player your videos inspire me but also they're price prohibitive. Until now! I'd be so interested in taking this off your hands. Single Dad with a kid that I'm giving lessons to when I can cause she loves playing the trumpet 😇 hope you're well bud.
Ya horns can be a little ridiculous in price... I mean not saying they are not worth it, but a few G's is up there for many people these days... Glad to see places like Thomann and others that have cost reasonable offerings that are not total junk !!
I'm taking up horns again after 50-some years. I have a Bach cornet and two plastic trumpets that cost less than $200 each. I'm thinking about buying a plastic flugelhorn. I saw a trumpet player in an orchestra of old folks in The Atlanta area and his looked and sounded good. I also have a Crimean War bugle and several other bugles. A retired reporter, I'm enjoying this but would like your opinion on the plastic flugelhorn. Thanks.
I have not had a plastic Flugelhorn, but have has several P-Trumpets --> pbonemusic.com/instruments/ptrumpet and they were actually pretty nice IMO but the valves were a little "sticky" for me... I see they now have this one, www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/pTpthyTchBlk--pinstruments-ptrumpet-hytech-trumpet-black so perhaps that has resolved that one issue, otherwise I think they sounded great !! Not sure which flugelhorn you were looking at but this one looks pretty nice www.guitarcenter.com/Cool-Wind/CFG-200-Series-Plastic-Bb-Flugelhorn-Black-1500000189964.gc
@@GarotMichaelConklin Since I'm retired and just doing this for fun I don't wanna spend more than $200 on a flugle. I'm also trying to play a piccolo trumpet but nobody in Atlanta gives lessons! Keep making videos...thanks.
It looks cool, but not sure I would take the lac off of the horn…..But to each his own…. Really enjoying your content!
It was raw brass from Thomann, that is one of the options for this horn, I just "scratched" it up more :)
Hi Garot
How s things . I've just asked my wife to buy me this flugel for my 59th bday in March. Just heard about the passing of quincy Jones RIP quincy ❤
I'm still on long term sick. If you are willing to share the flugel . I would love to take you up on the offer . It's Barry from the UK 🇬🇧. I've got a new you tube . Bless you .
Hey Garot did that horn come with the "paint" on it orr raw brass. I know you kinda steel wooled it. But what was the finish when it came?
I actually had both lol this one was raw brass and I added my own scratched finish lol
Hi! How do you compare it to the discontinued Yamaha student horn (YFH 2310)?
Nice video and smooth playing ...a question, have you ever tried the model FH 1000? If Yes IT worth the 170 euro extra in your opinion?
I have a question! Does the Flugelhorn accept cornet shanks, or is it strictly for trumpet mouthpieces? Thank you for the updating regarding the horn, you’ve convinced me to consider purchasing one myself!
My couesnon does. You can use cornet mpc
The tone is great. Your playing is very sweet. How long have you played
Those bottom caps are HUGE. Are they solid or hollow? The horn looks heavy.
Ciao Michael , come prima cosa un salutone, poi volevo congratularmi per la barba e perfetta ti sta veramente bene . scusami volevo chiederti vedendo tanti video che hai fatto sul flicorno Thomann mi sono innamorato e ho acquistato come già ti avevo scritto tempo fa un 900JSL pensando che cambiasse solamente il colore ma mi sono accorto che suonando il flicorno 900J di un amico mi e' sembrato che suonasse più fluito, con anche 'con più armonici , il 900 JSL' molto più cupo molto più duro tu che gli hai provati tutte e due mi sai dire qualcosa in riguardo grazie - poi volevo chiederti anche per il flicorno 900J del video cosa hai usato per farlo cosi bello satinato grazie e buona musica
È bello risentirti, amico mio! Grazie anche per il commento sulla barba, detto questo, da allora me la sono rasata!! lol comunque, non ho trovato grandi differenze tra la tromba Satin Lacquer e la tromba Raw Brass in termini di suono. In questo video sto suonando un bocchino Bach 7FL. Mi piace la sensazione e il tono di Bach, ma ho molti, molti bocchini che funzionano in questo corno, quindi in larga misura questo è molto soggettivo :)
ciao Michael grazie per avermi risposto subito una curiosità che ore sono li ce' molta differenza di orario ? con l'Italia io sono un po' sonnambolo vado a letto tardi ti scrivo due righe e vado a cuccarmi ( DORMIRE ) comunque grazie sei sempre disponibile perdonami per brass parli della 900j esatto , mi sembra più fluito comunque come la fai suonare tu e fantastico qualsiasi imboccatura usi bello caldo bel flicorno grazie e ci sentiamo presto l'offerta spaghettata e' sempre aperta un salutone @@GarotMichaelConklin
Class Act!
I bought Dillon
Don’t use Brasso. Use Flitz.
I have both , the 900 and the 600G. Don´t buy the 900, the 600G is the horn to purchase. The 900 sounds dead, it is just a gimmick horn, listen to that guy. Do you want to sound like him??
I bought the 600G and returned it. If you like clear, trumpet-like tone, it is ok (it is a matter of taste, this guy doesn't sound bad at all for me), but some notes on the 600G are too much out of tune, it is not acceptable. While reading comments, I found out that many people have the same problem with the same notes (F2, for example, was terrible). So it seems to be a construction problem.