Heads up! The first damage chart stated the upper torso damage of the Sykov as 35 but it's 31. So it is a 9 shot kill (6/9 upper torso shots required) as stated and the TTK values are correct, it was just that one value that I messed up in the first chart.
Doesn't the AMP have a damage reduction when akimbo? Maybe I missed something, but it looked like you used the full 30 damage for akimbo when it's actually reduced down to 17 or something like that.
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45 round mag maximum 718 rpm fire rate (between the Amp and sykov) Extra attachment in barrel category It would be great, I had think about it before the sykov were released
@@PickNNNPop I was always hoping for them to announce something like an x16 rework or buff that they'd keep secret until the day before it comes out, then all the youtubers would be making x16 full auto videos lmfao
It's not the lesser. The way he formatted this made it seem that way. But you can't pick a barrel option for a full auto sykov. You also won't have the attachment slots available to kit out an smg alternative... Meanwhile the amp63 is MEANT to be used as an smg alternative.
Thank god that new pistol isn't broken. It seems that the trend of this season is just fear mongering with the new guns but they end up being not so great, which is good for balance
The gun is actually very good. It's an smg alternative that people thought was a sykov mk2. It does the single sykov's job better. But is terrible at dual wield.
@@Kizen. I mean a single Diamatti easily beats the AMP63 tbh, but yeah a lot of people prefer full auto over semi auto and burst. That's why nobody runs tactical rifles anymore, even though the DMR got buffed.
@@StardustLegacyFighter It doesn't. amp63 has more range due to it having a better barrel selection. In point blank neither are very good. Also, the tactical rifles are actually busted if you use them alongside an aa12
Nope. Not even close. He missed the mark with this. Amp63 is an smg alternative. Sykov is not. Sykov is always better as an akimbo option to a single option. Always. Its not even a proper comparison. A barrel option vs no option to be competitive.
@@Kizen. dude akimbo full auto sykov in warzone has absolutely ludicrously high recoil, not to mention a terrible hipfire spread, even with the 5mw lazer. Its almost unusable.
@@masterchief6739 As long as you only use them as a backup or a rushdown tool they are fine. They are meant to be used like a shotgun. Keep to the 20 mags. Make sure you are used to the recoil. I've had no issues usinh akimbo sykovs. Unless I'm trying to use them at a range they obviously aren't meant for. But it's really easy for me to rack up 10+ kills with just dual sykovs in CQC
Ok two things 1: How quickly do you run out of those 20 round mags?? 2: i you try to fight someone more than 15 meters away its just useless. Most of the shots wont hit and they'll just turn around and shoot you back. But i ccannot deny that it absolutely tears through people in VERY close range.
@@TheXclusiveAce I’ve just tested it in regular Plunder on some 200 health (2 plates) AFK’s. BR training mode doesn’t start for me. It consistently takes 8 shots to the upper body with full auto akimbo 80 round mag to down a player. It implies damage of 26 what is 75% out of 35 (not 31). Hope that helps 😉👍🏻
@@LugiThePainDrinker I was resting the barrel of the gun on the chest. Unless the bullets went backwards it was all registered. Bullet by bullet from 1 inch distance.
@@LugiThePainDrinker haha, definitely outside of your control mate. I know what works for me and what I can do with akimbo sykovs. I’m more than happy for anyone else to keep using truegamedata for sykov 😉
Yeah I use it with a grau or kar98 for my fully loaded class and restock/ghost. So basically 4 classes. I can get both full sniper/SMG or AR/SMG in one loadout. Really helps in intense situation
So basically from a single gun perspective: Amp63 has more potential to be better but sykov is the safer pick. Nothing wrong with either it seems. I wonder if full auto pistols would be a good secondary to something with terrible handling like a lmg or something of the sort. Having a pocket smg that can down decently seems like a good idea.
AMP also has smaller magazine capacity and the easier maxing for its TTK can be better since it is usually impossible to never miss shots, especially if you go for headshots, so Sykov is generally better. Regardless, just uninstall the game and use the extra space to download some other games that focus on fun over making money for a scummy company.
The amp63 is actually better than a single sykov. Dude failed to mention the attachment difference. You can kit the amp63 to be a viable smg. You can't do that with the single sykov. It just doesn't have a consistent recoil pattern. And the 80 round drum makes it handle like an assault rifle... with 1/5th the range... Meanwhile the amp63 will handle like an smg. Have the range of a TRUE smg. And deal similar damage and have similar recoil. All in all. It's better. Nobody should ever use sykov without akimbo. Nor should they use 80 round drums. It's shooting yourself in the foot for novelty.
its a nightmare trying to unlock this in plunder, it feels wayyyyyy sweatier than my regular BR games. people sliding cancelling with roze/CDL skins every where, shooting you outta sky, or sniping you as soon as you hit the ground
Nothing i love more than getting instantly lasered the second i spawn because some one spawned behind me and has perfect accuracy while falling from the sky with his AR.
Just do bounty contracts away from the hotspot areas like Airport and Storage Town, that way you can get kills and not get yeeted by snipers. I manage to unlock it by using the Diamatti, which is easily the best single pistol in the meta.
Hey Ace. FWIW you may want to consider actually shooting at a wall in order to measure hip fire spreads (at least for the Cold War guns). I know you said you don’t like to watch other creators videos. But TrueGameData did a video a while back where he showed that the Cold War hip fire indicators aren’t always right. Idk it could have been patched by now.
The final advantage you didn't mention is the Modern Warfare perk slot. With the Sykov you can make a build with Fully Loaded and get max SMG ammo from the start, while with the AMP63, you can't.
I’ve been running the single AMP63 as my secondary in Warzone for months now and I absolutely love it. Once they made it a 30rd fast mag, it settled the issue for me. I go Ghost right away and rarely feel the need to get an SMG as a secondary. Sykov is great, even as a semi-auto, but I can’t deal with the weight penalty of the 80 round, so for me it was between the AMP and the Diamatti and the AMP is just so easy to use even compared to the probably more potent Diamatti, I find myself winning fights I probably shouldn’t be with a pistol more often than now.
Sykov was so easy becasue it was a MW weapon. Shipment and it was unloved and maxed in less than two hours. This gun on the other hand…. Play zombies or 20 matches then fly around in a chopper for two hours in plunder
I think you should clarify for newer players, when you summarize, the characteristics for the AMP63 will handle medium range engagements better. In my case I like to have a long range Assault Rifle so I need a hand gun that can handle short->medium ranges. AMP63 will work for me.
Dont the sykov and amp both do reduced damage when in akimbo? I dont recall the numbers, but i believe jgod covered the amp akimbo, and in the patchnotes the mentioned reduced damage for the sykov when in akimbo, something like 13-17 base damage
Honestly, I feel like AMP63 have some kind of unique feel to it, with the way it looks and fires, and probably I'd use it over the Sykov because of it, even if it's not as good.
The unique feel and everything is because it is. It's LITERALLY an smg in secondary slot. Sykov just felt like every machine pistol in a cod game ever. Amp63 just feels like a legitimate smg. And can be kitted to be one.
Are the movement speeds noticeably different between the AMP63 and the Sykov? I've seen test results from truegamedata showing that all the Cold War pistols move faster than the Modern Warfare pistols (with the Diamatti as the #4 fastest sprinting speed weapon in the entire game), but I was wondering if the AMP63 is consistent with that.
I think recoil is important when comparing guns because having a slightly better ttk means nothing if you can’t hit shots beyond point blank. So i would try the pm63 first. Also keep in mind another main advantage of the sykov is the 80 rounds which makes you very slow, meaning you can’t move quickly at all and have bad recoil. Also, the pm63 has fast mags that reload instantly. The only thing that makes it close is the sykov’s fire rate to spray people down. If you want something to actually use like an smg and attempt to be accurate, the pm63 is better especially because the movement speed and ads strafe speed helps. But if you want to just whip out a bullet hose, the sykov is definitely better. Since these are secondaries, the sykov could be better in situations where you need to finish a kill but don’t want to reload your primary
The Sykov is way better. Maybe not statistically, but i’d happily run it as a secondary instead of a smg and get ghost off the rip. Can’t say the same for the amp63 solely bc of the mag size.
I think a cool idea for content for you would be to go over meta guns that got nerfed and see how viable they are. Either at the end ofevery season or maybe at the start of season 4 and the end of season 6.
I just unlocked the AMP and leveled it up, I’m looking forward to trying it in Warzone. Ace, I’ve been wondering, do you think the Desert Eagle is a viable handgun in Warzone? I’ve used it and enjoyed it, but I’m not exactly a competitive player, my KD sucks.
Both of these guns need a headshot multiplier buff. Especially the Sykov. Completely removing the head multiplier when using full auto is stupid. They should revert that nerf at least on a single wield gun but keep as is when using akimbo
Does the single Renetti keep its headshot bonus with the burst barrel? I haven't touched the full auto pistols yet and the Renetti would be my alternative to using them
not even close. the Sykov is legit deadly if you know how to use it. Ever since its release i havent even had the need to run overkill as i can just run AR/Sykov and be able to dominate in most fights.
@@andreivaldez2929 except for the fact other pistols easily beat it in every situation. The diamatti two bursts everyone with no burst delay whatsoever, the magnum kills in two shots with almost no damage drop off. All I'm suggesting is if it had that pitiful damage they should up the fire rate to 730 or something close. It needs tweaking because I legitimately cannot go pistol only with this piece of trash when I can do so easily with the other pistols
Yeah. He didn't mention that. Or the fact that amp63 can rock a sight, stock, barrel, mag, AND muzzle attachment to completely outshine a single sykov on a ridiculous level.
@@christopherwood4960 Oh it definitely is. You can outgun actual smgs with that. Good luck outgunning an mp5 with a single sykov and the joke recoil though.
Also to note. Hipfire reticle is not a proper way to indicate hipfire spread. There's a lot of misleading stuff here, and while I am certain none of it is intentional, it feels like it was a hot-take without too much time spent on the real feel comparison of either gun or the details. Nobody is using 80 round drum sykovs anymore unless they are memeing. Nobody thinks the single sykov can compete against actual smgs. And the recoil pattern for single sykov is like someone with alzheimers telling you a story. Nonsensical. It's saving grace is akimbo and a ridiculous rate of fire with solid damge numbers, to bullethose your enemies. Meanwhile amp63 is as consistent as you can get a secondary weapon. Period.
Heads up! The first damage chart stated the upper torso damage of the Sykov as 35 but it's 31. So it is a 9 shot kill (6/9 upper torso shots required) as stated and the TTK values are correct, it was just that one value that I messed up in the first chart.
Kk
Why even put it in the game when its not as good as other guns?
I think you made the same mistake for the dual wield Sykov because the TTK is correct but you have the limb damage at 23 instead of 21.
Doesn't the AMP have a damage reduction when akimbo? Maybe I missed something, but it looked like you used the full 30 damage for akimbo when it's actually reduced down to 17 or something like that.
What about movement? Which is faster?
I’m surprised they never added a full auto conversion to the x16.
It would have a crazy firerate tho, but low damage and high recoil would balance it, plus its unique stock would make sense
They should have
@lowercase v MW2, maybe
Well. If they add full auto to X16. I would be remember G18
It really should have one, it’s ridiculous. The X16 is such a dud, always has been.
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The correct answer: Just use the truck because playing this game seriously is cancerous.
Nah there’s rarely any trucks in the game now
@@chuck1313 wdym
@@DONQUAKER they reduced the spawn rate from 16 to 29 trucks in the map to now nearly 5 trucks in the map only
@@armughanmalik5419 Was that not only in solos though?
@@armughanmalik5419 lmao i still see the 5 trucks on the last circle, im really not taking this toxic ass game seriously anymore
I swear man leveling the sykovs were SO quick it felt like a breeze.
Even getting gold......
MW guns level up drastically faster
Because Cold War design is kinda bad in some way
I swear I just got them today and I’m lvl 25 in them only in warzone
Took me two hours
BROOOOO WHY COULDN’T WE GET A FULL AUTO X16??
45 round mag maximum
718 rpm fire rate (between the Amp and sykov)
Extra attachment in barrel category
It would be great, I had think about it before the sykov were released
@@isaacelsexyiglesias508 like I don’t mind the 26 round mag either. Haha I just like glocks
I really wish it was full auto, I've been saying it should've had a full auto conversion since modern warfare came out
@@YourLocalGoth2969 same. Especially when the 3 round Burst came out. They are fucken money hungry hoes that are gonna wait will MW2 2 comes out -.-
@@PickNNNPop I was always hoping for them to announce something like an x16 rework or buff that they'd keep secret until the day before it comes out, then all the youtubers would be making x16 full auto videos lmfao
It’s kinda crazy that the lesser full auto secondary pistol is still noticeably better in almost every way compared to the milano. It needs a buff.
that and the Uzi needs some love
It's not the lesser. The way he formatted this made it seem that way. But you can't pick a barrel option for a full auto sykov. You also won't have the attachment slots available to kit out an smg alternative... Meanwhile the amp63 is MEANT to be used as an smg alternative.
Well, it did get a pretty decent buff. It's a B tier SMG now, which means it's somewhat viable.
@@vuxluongw Uzi needs a lot more attention tbh, because it's basically been relegated to the bottom tier.
@@Kizen. Uhh, yes you can attach a barrel to the Sykov lol. The barrel is literally what allows the pistols to use full auto 140mm.
Thank god that new pistol isn't broken.
It seems that the trend of this season is just fear mongering with the new guns but they end up being not so great, which is good for balance
The gun is actually very good. It's an smg alternative that people thought was a sykov mk2. It does the single sykov's job better. But is terrible at dual wield.
@@Kizen. I mean a single Diamatti easily beats the AMP63 tbh, but yeah a lot of people prefer full auto over semi auto and burst. That's why nobody runs tactical rifles anymore, even though the DMR got buffed.
@@StardustLegacyFighter It doesn't. amp63 has more range due to it having a better barrel selection. In point blank neither are very good. Also, the tactical rifles are actually busted if you use them alongside an aa12
Just got it dark aether this morning, zombie camo when 😩
We gotta grinder!
Damn bro go outside 😂😭
Me with Damascus DM ultra and aether I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you. ( I mountain bike competitive ski and workout everyday)
@@sonnywilson748 it's less than 3 hours to get it from level 1 to dark aether :0
@@johnnyturbo2783 jesus christ bro
I think it’s time to revisit the dual magnums with the damage barrel now that we aren’t in a FFAR/AUG instamelt meta
It has a good theoretical ttk only
In reality it is really hard to hit shots with it.
Have it leveled up but it is so unpredictable
@@confusedteammate4737 I feel the same way. Diamatie and Sykov are far more reliable
Too much recoil Imo, I prefer a single magnum.
@Void of Vengeance Anything's possible with Cronus.
AMP63: Can be better if you can deal with the risk V reward factor consistently
Sykov: Is more consistent and and a safe pick
Nope. Not even close. He missed the mark with this. Amp63 is an smg alternative. Sykov is not. Sykov is always better as an akimbo option to a single option. Always. Its not even a proper comparison. A barrel option vs no option to be competitive.
@@Kizen. dude akimbo full auto sykov in warzone has absolutely ludicrously high recoil, not to mention a terrible hipfire spread, even with the 5mw lazer. Its almost unusable.
@@Kizen. although multiplayer dual sykovs are still kick ass, they never really got nerfed that much at all.
@@masterchief6739 As long as you only use them as a backup or a rushdown tool they are fine. They are meant to be used like a shotgun. Keep to the 20 mags. Make sure you are used to the recoil. I've had no issues usinh akimbo sykovs. Unless I'm trying to use them at a range they obviously aren't meant for. But it's really easy for me to rack up 10+ kills with just dual sykovs in CQC
Ok two things
1: How quickly do you run out of those 20 round mags??
2: i you try to fight someone more than 15 meters away its just useless. Most of the shots wont hit and they'll just turn around and shoot you back. But i ccannot deny that it absolutely tears through people in VERY close range.
If Sykov deals 35 to upper torso, it means you need 8 upper torso shots to down a fully armored player. Not 9.
It's 31. I mistyped the first chart and missed the error
@@TheXclusiveAce I’ve just tested it in regular Plunder on some 200 health (2 plates) AFK’s. BR training mode doesn’t start for me. It consistently takes 8 shots to the upper body with full auto akimbo 80 round mag to down a player. It implies damage of 26 what is 75% out of 35 (not 31). Hope that helps 😉👍🏻
@@LugiThePainDrinker I was resting the barrel of the gun on the chest. Unless the bullets went backwards it was all registered. Bullet by bullet from 1 inch distance.
@@LugiThePainDrinker haha, definitely outside of your control mate. I know what works for me and what I can do with akimbo sykovs. I’m more than happy for anyone else to keep using truegamedata for sykov 😉
The fact that you can run fully loaded on the Sykov without sacrificing essential attachments puts it clearly over the edge for me
Yeah I use it with a grau or kar98 for my fully loaded class and restock/ghost. So basically 4 classes. I can get both full sniper/SMG or AR/SMG in one loadout. Really helps in intense situation
Sykov 4 life. No, MW Weapons for life
@@alfaaditya6357 MW🙏
Such a good point. I always use fully loaded because that ammo is SMG ammo as well
So basically from a single gun perspective: Amp63 has more potential to be better but sykov is the safer pick. Nothing wrong with either it seems. I wonder if full auto pistols would be a good secondary to something with terrible handling like a lmg or something of the sort. Having a pocket smg that can down decently seems like a good idea.
AMP also has smaller magazine capacity and the easier maxing for its TTK can be better since it is usually impossible to never miss shots, especially if you go for headshots, so Sykov is generally better.
Regardless, just uninstall the game and use the extra space to download some other games that focus on fun over making money for a scummy company.
@@andreivaldez2929 Every company has to focus on making money, and I don't have an issue with space, as I have a pc, with several tb drives.
The amp63 is actually better than a single sykov. Dude failed to mention the attachment difference.
You can kit the amp63 to be a viable smg. You can't do that with the single sykov. It just doesn't have a consistent recoil pattern. And the 80 round drum makes it handle like an assault rifle... with 1/5th the range... Meanwhile the amp63 will handle like an smg. Have the range of a TRUE smg. And deal similar damage and have similar recoil. All in all. It's better. Nobody should ever use sykov without akimbo. Nor should they use 80 round drums. It's shooting yourself in the foot for novelty.
I just ran a double pistol load out in CW, now I’m wondering if that *could* work in WZ…..
@@fifteen8850 If you use an amp 63 as a "primary" and akimbo sykovs as a "secondary" then yeah, maybe.
Another thing to consider: movement speed is very slow on Sykov compared to AMP63
Ye but the amp63 only has a 25 round mag
It's not that slow.
He did consider that
its a nightmare trying to unlock this in plunder, it feels wayyyyyy sweatier than my regular BR games. people sliding cancelling with roze/CDL skins every where, shooting you outta sky, or sniping you as soon as you hit the ground
Nothing i love more than getting instantly lasered the second i spawn because some one spawned behind me and has perfect accuracy while falling from the sky with his AR.
Just do bounty contracts away from the hotspot areas like Airport and Storage Town, that way you can get kills and not get yeeted by snipers. I manage to unlock it by using the Diamatti, which is easily the best single pistol in the meta.
@@alexchapman7287 I mean, I've done that a few times to other players and had the same happen to me. You win some, you lose some. 🤷♀️
Hey Ace. FWIW you may want to consider actually shooting at a wall in order to measure hip fire spreads (at least for the Cold War guns). I know you said you don’t like to watch other creators videos. But TrueGameData did a video a while back where he showed that the Cold War hip fire indicators aren’t always right. Idk it could have been patched by now.
This is what i wanted to comment hehe
Answer: Diamatti
Ew no
m19 akimbo and renetti akimbo is best
An underrated beast XD
6:07
Camper boy in plunder ate his mic on that death
I really wish Ace had done a Modern Warfare multiplayer gun guide for the Sykov, with the old format and video layout
He never did one from the crossbow either but shame neither would happen
I just tested the single skynov with the auto barrel in the war zone training and I got 35 damage to the upper torso. Can anyone else confirm this.
I can confirm
Akimbo tested this morning is 26 so single must be 35 👍🏻
Based on this information they did a good job differentiating these two weapons
Yeah making 1 clearly better than the other at pretty much everything
@@ogdaledoback7036 did you even watch the video bro lol
@@jax1384 yeah. Amp is useless in every situation
The final advantage you didn't mention is the Modern Warfare perk slot. With the Sykov you can make a build with Fully Loaded and get max SMG ammo from the start, while with the AMP63, you can't.
I’ve been running the single AMP63 as my secondary in Warzone for months now and I absolutely love it. Once they made it a 30rd fast mag, it settled the issue for me. I go Ghost right away and rarely feel the need to get an SMG as a secondary. Sykov is great, even as a semi-auto, but I can’t deal with the weight penalty of the 80 round, so for me it was between the AMP and the Diamatti and the AMP is just so easy to use even compared to the probably more potent Diamatti, I find myself winning fights I probably shouldn’t be with a pistol more often than now.
Is the SYKOV 31 or 35 to the upper torso? Different numbers are used in the first two comparisons?
I tested, it's 35
@@dvecherty then I wonder if his later numbers were off when it was showing 31?
It's actually 31
He said that he mistyped the 35 it's 31 if u search in the comments he answered another guy that had the same concern
@@ahmadk9856 alright cool I just saw his comment, thanks for letting me know
Thank you for saving me all the time from leveling another pistol. 😄 Leveling the Sykov was almost a form of hazing. 😤
Eh The amp if fully auto without unlocking the last attachments
Sykov was so easy becasue it was a MW weapon. Shipment and it was unloved and maxed in less than two hours. This gun on the other hand…. Play zombies or 20 matches then fly around in a chopper for two hours in plunder
It's much easier to level up MW guns compared to cold war
Just play plunder for leveling up the weaker weapons that are difficult to get kills with.
Dude what are you taking about. I fully leveled the Sykov in just a couple hours playing plunder. It was so nice compared to trying to level CW guns
I like the amp63 vs the sykov
The Amp63 vs Sykov is the best pistol
Amp 63 vs sykov best meta bro
Don’t forget movement potential. That’s big in WZ
single Diamatti smoke both of these hit head shot and Diamatti has a crazy ttk 2 burst
Shhh don’t tell them
I think you should clarify for newer players, when you summarize, the characteristics for the AMP63 will handle medium range engagements better. In my case I like to have a long range Assault Rifle so I need a hand gun that can handle short->medium ranges. AMP63 will work for me.
Dont the sykov and amp both do reduced damage when in akimbo? I dont recall the numbers, but i believe jgod covered the amp akimbo, and in the patchnotes the mentioned reduced damage for the sykov when in akimbo, something like 13-17 base damage
Honestly, I feel like AMP63 have some kind of unique feel to it, with the way it looks and fires, and probably I'd use it over the Sykov because of it, even if it's not as good.
The unique feel and everything is because it is. It's LITERALLY an smg in secondary slot. Sykov just felt like every machine pistol in a cod game ever. Amp63 just feels like a legitimate smg. And can be kitted to be one.
The amp has such a long reload time and a short mag, that’s its down fall
Ace should do a comparison of verdansk 2021 lighting with verdansk 84 lighting to see which is better
What about the less damage you make when using the auto barrel and the 80 rounds mag? I didn't miss it, did I?
Are the movement speeds noticeably different between the AMP63 and the Sykov? I've seen test results from truegamedata showing that all the Cold War pistols move faster than the Modern Warfare pistols (with the Diamatti as the #4 fastest sprinting speed weapon in the entire game), but I was wondering if the AMP63 is consistent with that.
Base movement speeds are about the same but the 80 round mag on the Sykov very noticeably slows you down.
@@TheXclusiveAce Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks very much!
Idk why but I’d love to see a video of the 357 vs the magnum
That’s cool and all but did you know dogs whiskers help them see at night
I didn't thank you for letting me know.
Ace can you please do an update video on the carv.2 barrels after they've been fixed according to raven?
Big bonus to the Sykov is you can run fully loaded if you decide to use it single instead of Akimbo
I think recoil is important when comparing guns because having a slightly better ttk means nothing if you can’t hit shots beyond point blank. So i would try the pm63 first. Also keep in mind another main advantage of the sykov is the 80 rounds which makes you very slow, meaning you can’t move quickly at all and have bad recoil. Also, the pm63 has fast mags that reload instantly. The only thing that makes it close is the sykov’s fire rate to spray people down. If you want something to actually use like an smg and attempt to be accurate, the pm63 is better especially because the movement speed and ads strafe speed helps. But if you want to just whip out a bullet hose, the sykov is definitely better. Since these are secondaries, the sykov could be better in situations where you need to finish a kill but don’t want to reload your primary
The Sykov is way better. Maybe not statistically, but i’d happily run it as a secondary instead of a smg and get ghost off the rip. Can’t say the same for the amp63 solely bc of the mag size.
They over nerfed the sycov the 80 round mag makes you run at lmg speed they need to buff it and only make you slower when using akimbo
I think ace might have got the akimbo AMP63 TTK wrong as the damage values change when akimbo driftor got the same TTK in akimbo as he did in single.
I think a cool idea for content for you would be to go over meta guns that got nerfed and see how viable they are. Either at the end ofevery season or maybe at the start of season 4 and the end of season 6.
The AMP 63 looks cooler, but the Sykov is way better with its attachments and Akimbo.
would you say akimbo M19s are better than both pistols?
can u make a video on the amp after the buff ?
What attachments do you recommend?
He already did a video on the Sykov with a loadout; AMP video is coming out later.
Agency Suppressor, Task Force Barrel, Tiger Team Spotlight, 25 Mag, Serpent Wrap.
I just unlocked the AMP and leveled it up, I’m looking forward to trying it in Warzone. Ace, I’ve been wondering, do you think the Desert Eagle is a viable handgun in Warzone? I’ve used it and enjoyed it, but I’m not exactly a competitive player, my KD sucks.
Wasn't the sykov nerfed hard in damege when due wield whit the 80 rounds mag?
Sykof is just more fun to shoot. The 25 rounds only in the amp makes it so you don’t want to try your luck is trios or quads.
Thanks for this!! your guides are so helpful
Does the trigger that increases fire rate work with the full auto Sykov?
No
Honestly all you had to say was Sykov gets Fully Loaded and the Amp doesn't. Easy dubs.
I mean this is a simple choice right...?
I wish they made the max mag size 30 to 40 rounds and i would be okay with the recoil if the hip fire was a bit tighter
An increase in firerate of each semi auto pistol would be great to be more competitive
If you can, can you check the carv barrels again?
I honestly think I’ll use it. It seems super balanced which is a nice change.
Both of these guns need a headshot multiplier buff. Especially the Sykov. Completely removing the head multiplier when using full auto is stupid. They should revert that nerf at least on a single wield gun but keep as is when using akimbo
In that first clip the enemy strafes in the guns recoil pattern without realizing it lol
We need another one with the new 1911 vanguard
Wait, 9 shots to kill for the sykov ? Isn't it 8 ?
And 3 shots for no plates ?
Wait does the sykov do 31 or 35
35
31
@@TheXclusiveAce thank you uwu ♥️
Great video. Easy to understand
I like the Amp bc of the movement speed if im wrong pls tell me
I thought the dual wield versions had reduced damage?
Does the single Renetti keep its headshot bonus with the burst barrel?
I haven't touched the full auto pistols yet and the Renetti would be my alternative to using them
Just unlocked the amp and I'm gonna use it with my ghillie sniping ghost class
What do you think about akimbo sykov with 20 rounds + Amax ghost loadout? Seems good enough to win a game with only one loadout for me
AMP63 is awesome now that they buffed the magazine to 30.
Tanks for this video 👍
Sykovs all the way faster ttk and more ammo
Diamattis r better than sykovs
@@mandungitanoteroba dunno they are good 100 percent but now that the sykovs are added they are a bit obsolete
Are you using akimbo sykov/diamatti LOL? Just use m19s
@@dvecherty I use single diamttis and sykovs I am however going to unlock m19 duel weild cause they do look good
80 round mag just seems overkill, and it sound suicidical fight 2 enemies at once with it, movement speed is far more important
Bro, now that cold war has fireteam elimination I just deleted warzone cause it was so huge. I downloaded GTA and still have extra space
I always use the sikov as my primary is my favorite pistol of WZ
I been waiting on someone to make a comparison video
So basically... the guns from the past are STILL better than the guns from the future.
Wat the sykov is actually better
But the cold war gun are NORMAL y better
Both the PM63 and Sykov are Cold War guns, so technically speaking they are both past guns lol.
@@dillonc7955 sykov is mw
@@pepefrog7456 but the gun was used by th soviet union irl
My aim sucks so I'm sticking with the one that has an 80 round drum mag
You didn't cover mobility. Since the AMP63 is worse in every way for damage and accuracy than the Sykov, maybe it has an advantage in mobility?
Sykovs recoil is on some crack
How are they finna add a weaker version of the full auto pistol mw had its full year of being garbage it’s supposed to be cw time to shine
What’s the movement speed difference?
You can also get fully loaded with the sykov without hurting its viability too much
not even close. the Sykov is legit deadly if you know how to use it. Ever since its release i havent even had the need to run overkill as i can just run AR/Sykov and be able to dominate in most fights.
I dont own MW though and dont wanna level up the sykov to max just for its full auto :/
Coll video bro i like te amp63 but in hes single version the dual sykov or akimbo i to much better thats right
PM-63 desperately needs a buff in cold war
No; it's a secondary and it shouldn't make other pistols/ Overkill redundant.
@@andreivaldez2929 except for the fact other pistols easily beat it in every situation. The diamatti two bursts everyone with no burst delay whatsoever, the magnum kills in two shots with almost no damage drop off. All I'm suggesting is if it had that pitiful damage they should up the fire rate to 730 or something close. It needs tweaking because I legitimately cannot go pistol only with this piece of trash when I can do so easily with the other pistols
This was awesome 👌
Diamatti's dual wield are so much better then these 2 machine pistols. More controllable and the recoil is so much better.
M13 vs QBZ
Amp seems to be more for cold war mp to fill the auto pistol role
The gun is terrible in cold war. It's recoil is terrible in single and akimbo modes.
I'm going with the sykov
Amp63 more hybrid smg pistol makrov is pistol. I rather land shots tighter spread than more ammo. I’ll stick to amp63
Isnt the range better with amp63 with a barrel? Since u have to use full auto barrel with sykov u can use a range barrel or something with the amp63.
Yeah. He didn't mention that. Or the fact that amp63 can rock a sight, stock, barrel, mag, AND muzzle attachment to completely outshine a single sykov on a ridiculous level.
@@Kizen. yeah i was looking for the stats on that it seems amp63 might b the better weapon with the addition to attachments.
@@christopherwood4960 Oh it definitely is. You can outgun actual smgs with that. Good luck outgunning an mp5 with a single sykov and the joke recoil though.
@@Kizen. i was looking for the stats in multiplayer more so.
@@christopherwood4960 Be it multiplayer or warzone. Amp63 is the better gun unless akimbo.
Does the sykovs first trigger increase full auto fire rate?
@@ricardosalas3427 thats pretty wack
Amp feels better idk what it is but it feels to me so much more accurate. But dual Weill wise still sykov
Imo the AMP63 needs a one shot reduced TTK
Why not both
Sykov is still the king. Amp is good but not meta breaking like the sykovs when it first came out.
Also to note. Hipfire reticle is not a proper way to indicate hipfire spread. There's a lot of misleading stuff here, and while I am certain none of it is intentional, it feels like it was a hot-take without too much time spent on the real feel comparison of either gun or the details.
Nobody is using 80 round drum sykovs anymore unless they are memeing. Nobody thinks the single sykov can compete against actual smgs. And the recoil pattern for single sykov is like someone with alzheimers telling you a story. Nonsensical. It's saving grace is akimbo and a ridiculous rate of fire with solid damge numbers, to bullethose your enemies.
Meanwhile amp63 is as consistent as you can get a secondary weapon. Period.