Could Dinosaurs Survive In Jurassic Park Today? Paleontologist Reveals His Thoughts
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
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Could dinosaurs survive today? What modern-day environment is closest to the dinosaurs? How would dinosaurs fare against modern predators and competitors? Could today’s climate support these prehistoric giants? - Наука та технологія
This is incidentally a good demonstration of the fact that tropical species are underrepresented by the fossil record, due to poor preservation conditions. I wonder if there are any known species of dinosaur that would do well in Jurassic Park?
That's a great question! A good topic for a sequel video👀
@@dailydinoguyup next Isla Sorna
In the original Jurassic Park film, Dr. Sadler questions how sure the staff are that the dinosaurs won't eat poisonous plants. But realistically, was there anything on that Island that they *could* eat? I'd be interested in a video discussing what if any plants they would have recognized in that modern setting.
Good question! Realistically, they probably could have eaten most of the native plants, but it would have been completely different from what they would have been used to. Brachiosaurus existed before flowering plants and fruits even existed. But that would be very interesting to look into!
If we are speaking about dinosaur that was bring back with time machine well it would be difficult for them to eat due to their digestif system and bacteria, and the quantity they need to eat, but with ingeniering lab animal (that look like Dinosaur) they would have the perfect bacteria to digest modern plant, who knows because i think the triceratops, raptors, T.rex and brachiosaur in Jurassic Park/World franchise have completly different organs than they extinct conterparts, we approch this question has if they were real dinosaur but they are not, and that explain why they behavior, habits and physiology are not the same, for exemple in the Lost World Jurassic Park the Tyrannosaur have sexual dimorphism like the real tyrannosaur but instead of the femal that have bigger size and robust morph and the male been more gracile and smaller in size, the Buck (T.rex male) is bigger and more chunky and the female is little bit smaller, the only thing accurate in the design of the male is the hypotetic sexual display small crest ornementation on the head
Well they also said they resurrected a number of prehistoric plants we se Eli looking at one in the first film
@@jameswilliams2075 Yeah how did they do that? The film skips right over it - was it something mentioned in the novel?
@woodencoyote4372 don't know. I haven't read the novel yet, but nothing is mentioned about it in any film
This would tie nicely with the theme of the novels.
InGen expected lumbering dimwits, like old depictions of dinosaurs suggested, so they were whoefully unprepared in containing the active and intelligent animals they revived. Similarly, InGen probably expected creatures adapted to tropical swamps, like old depictions of dinosaurs suggested, so they were whoefully unprepared in caring for animals in a climate vastly different from what they were used to.
Now, zoos have been kept more or less successfully wild animals in climates different from their native ones all the time (though modern zoos tend to be more selective in what kind of animals they maintain climate-wise), but for living wild animals we have hundreds of years of experience and often many generations of acclimatization in (usually) more temperate climates than they were mostly used to, which obviously InGen did not have. Respiratory diseases, fungal infections and heatstrokes would have been VERY prevalent in those dinos, and given the unknowns in veterinary care, this would have most likely negatively impacted their lifespan. Yet another reason Jurassic Park/World would have been throughly investigated and probably shut down if it was a zoological park in real life. That of course, unless the frog DNA used to create them helped them adapt to the local climate (this is stated to be the case with the Indominus rex, but with the other dinosaurs is ambiguous). Another possibility still - climatized indoor exhibits,, though these of course are kinda inflexible given the sheer size of some dinos.
Well said! Ya the genetic editing is a nice get out of jail card for the sake of the movie plot. But it is kind of ambiguous at first
@@dailydinoguy I would say that BioSyn agents increased the intelligence and love of human flesh for the carnivores.
Michael Crichton mentions this in the Jurassic Park novel, noting that the Stegosaurus was struggling to breathe. The oxygen mixture in the air is very different to them.
Good point! Some dinosaurs definitely lived at times when the oxygen to carbon ratio was way different than today
I was thinking about Polar Bears from the start "It would probably suck but they could probably live". One difference though is that the polar bears are fed and supervised, while the dinosaurs are presumably being left to sort out their ecosystem themselves. Hunting and mating patterns would probably be pretty thrown off. I'm no expert but my guess is that plenty of dino's would be "okay" on an individual level, but the park wouldn't be able to self-sustain more than a couple generations.
Great video!
I think so, too. Honestly, most places on Earth now could support most dinosaurs reasonably well as long as it's not an extreme place like the equator or the poles. But hey, the exotic locality makes for a fun movie🤷♂️ Glad you liked it!
@@dailydinoguy we are heating to a Mesozoic temperature gradient. However the oxygen levels may be too low for some of them.
As a Taiwanese, I'm ashamed to say Taiwan had introduced polar bears to our zoos twice. Once in the 70s and once in the 90s, and both times they were kept in outdoor enclosures. The one in the 70s died in 2 years. The two in the 90s died in 5. So... even though they absolutely shouldn't have been kept outdoors in Taiwan, they managed to stay alive at least for a couple of years.
This is rather surprising, I would've thought that most of them would be alright with Costa Rica.
With polar bears in captivity, there are many things that's beendone for their comfort:
-air conditioning
-on low fat diet to have minimal insulating blubber
-have ice available
-coolwater available
For the most part, the same could be done for the dinosaurs and others.
Quetzalcoatlus might actually be relatively okay since they might've migrated to different climates throughout the year, like modern migratory birds.
Some of the health issues that they might from are fungal infections, respiratory issues, heat stress, exposure to mold, etc.
Ya I would have though they could survive too! Dinosaurs seem to fit with the exotic nature of the equator. But sometimes we forget that the equator is technically one of the more extreme environments on Earth. And ya if it was a REAL zoo I'm sure they'd figure out a way to keep them healthy. But also I feel like if they had Jurassic Park anywhere else in the world, it would probably work out since the environment would be less extreme
makes me wonder what a "jurassic park" with dinosaurs ONLY adapted to costa rica's level's of heat and humidity?
any ideas?
@@dailydinoguy perhaps Texas or Florida? 🤔
@@paleo-zoo-keeper-association trouble with that is...
it's on the mainland any if the unlikely chance of any escapes happen.
it would be a little harder to control (just look at the invasion of monkeys into florida for instance)
in fact... florida is EXTREMELY well known for having a lot of invasive creatures roaming it's marshlands.
@taliesincoleman6569 ooooh good question! The larger the dinosaur, the more likely it would overheat, so it would have to go one of two ways: Either (relatively) smaller dinosaurs would dominate OR large or medium sized dinosaurs would become more cold blooded to acclimate to the constant heat. Although because of gigantothermy, there's probably an upper limit to how big a dinosaur could get in such a uniformally hot place.
Yes, they'd survive because they were engineered precisely to do that: survive in Jurassic Park. They were not real dinosaurs, they were park attractions. It's explained very well in the books, not in the (first two) movies. Anyway, great video.
You should do a video that finds out the most optimal location for Jurassic Park, this is interesting stuff.
It's on the list!
well here's a thought: maybe the initial prototype specimens couldn't handle that environment,
so the genetistis had to make slight modifications to later specimens so that they COULD survive.
i mean... after all, these ingen dinosaurs ARE NOT the same as their mesozoic counterparts.
i mean dilophosaurus is different in SO MANY ways. and if you want your animals to ACTUALLY survive,
you'd likely make genetic adjustments to them so that they COULD.
Valid point! At the end of the day, the fact that these dinosaurs are genetically modified can help explain away pretty much anything that isn't scientifically accurate
@@dailydinoguy indeed. and I like that as a story element.
@@taliesincoleman6569 me too! It shakes things up
@@dailydinoguy such as the frog DNA giving the side effect of changing sex.
or the monitor lizard DNA giving Blue the ability to reproduce asexually.
the glowing Parasaurs in camp cretaceous, thanks to deep sea life DNA.
and of course... the fact we see distinct "variants" in all the movies.
@@dailydinoguy not to mention the hybrids (which i actually really liked for being a living manifestation of humanity's superficiality towards dinosaurs.)
Wonder how these animals would’ve done in South Africa, which is where Prehistoric Park (a 2006 show) mainly takes place
They may have! It probably would have been much cooler there
@@dailydinoguy Hopefully, and hopefully a new Primeval doesn’t cancel the possibility of a second season of Prehistoric Park
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Thank you! Glad you liked it!
The way species in zoos can live in areas where the temperature or humidity is wrong is by being provided temperature controlled areas or shelters, both being easy to combine into indoor areas.
As a result, it always felt really silly that Jurassic Park had no indoor areas for their animals to speak of, especially since you could have easily either plopped them into the background or mentioned them offhand for the first or fourth movie (which are incidentally the only ones with actual parks). I guess by movie six and the Television series they just used magical technology to create essentially giant terrariums for them.
Tho to be fair, Prehistoric Park didn't really seem to consider indoor areas for their animals either, and that one actually tried to follow proper zoo methods.
Yeah, you've got a point for Prehistoric Park. I guess the one exception was the Carboniferous species, which had to be kept in a building which artificially created an atmosphere similar to the Carboniferous atmosphere. And I guess there was that one scene where the mammoth needs shearing to prevent her from overheating. The dinosaurs, on the other hand, were left to fend for themselves.
Ironic how most of the dinosaurs that would've done the best in Jurassic Park were the ones from the Jurassic period
I don’t get how you don’t have more subscribers! You deserve way more subs!
Thank you!🙏🏼 Hopefully, more are on the way!
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It was filmed on Hawaii and some parts of the Dominican Republic so that’s the closest enviorment
It would be interesting if you also determined where in the modern world the animals of Jurassic Park (& the other films) would actually do great?
Good question! Honestly the equator is such an extreme place that really anywhere else could probably work. Since they all came from different environments, it'd be hard to nail down one perfect spot. But my educated guess with no prior research would be somewhere like Virginia or the Carolinas. Pretty temperate, but still some humidity, decent weather variation, and no extreme temps.
To be fair there we’re probably conditioned to live in a tropical environment
Incredible video, well made and very well put together science. I'd imagine altering the dinosaurs to survive in the environment of the park was probably part of the genome work at JP. Be interesting to see a follow up where you show where on earth dinosaurs from the park would do well!
That would definitely make sense. The whole genetically altered bit is a good get out out of jail card. And that's also a good idea! I'll have to look into that
I think with the Hell Creek fauna (_T. rex, Triceratops, Ankylosaurus, Pachycephalosaurus and Stygimoloch_), how well they'd do might also depend on which part of the HCF they're sampled from, especially given the megaflora change in the Hell Creek Formation's stratigraphy indicates that global temperatures were rising during the last 300k-500k years of the Maastrichtian. For example, laurels (typically found in subtropical and tropical environments) became more common while cupressaceous conifers became rarer.
So if the Rex, Trike (_T. prorsus_ in this case), pachycephalosaur (_Stygimoloch/Pachycephalosaurus spinifer_ in this case) were sampled from the upper Hell Creek where the climate is more subtropical to tropical, they might do better (though Florida would probably still be a better pick to house them). But if they're from the lower Hell Creek (_Triceratops horridus_ and _Pachycephalosaurus wyomingensis_) where things are more at the temperate side of things, they'd do more poorly.
That what i was thinking. Hell creek being similar to the everglades id imagine those dinosaurs would be okish in costarica
I think this is why the scientists altered the genetic codes of the dinosaurs for this exact reason: to give them genetic traits that made it easier for them to live in a tropical environment.
As well as why all the Dinosaurs had some kind of indoor enclosure as well
Very true! The genetic editing bit helps clear up any scientific inaccuracies
@@dailydinoguy Which is a good way to also explain why the dinosaurs look so different from what they’d likely look like otherwise as well.
I love Jurassic Park, have since I was a kid and it’s part of the reason why I love dinosaurs and want to be a paleontologist. But learning more about them has made me realize how inaccurate things were back then due to our lack of understanding at the time.
I would think the bigger ones would have an easier time, as a large animal gains or loses heat much slower than a small one.
Herds would also have an advantage as they could huddle together in the cold, or even in the heat.
E.g. when its even hotter in the desert than normal, camels will crowd in close. Its counterintuitive but this way they effectively form one single larger mass, and so they gain heat less quickly.
They explained in jurassic world that all the dinosaurs cloned on isla nublar and isla sorna where mixed in with topical frog DNA to help them survive in the climate
And as for how they survived on the mainland
Its explained that all the dinosaurs are also bread to be endothermic
With hybrids such as the sino spinos taking this ability to the extreme
Fair point! The genetic editing bit is a good get out of jail card for any inaccurate info
@@dailydinoguy except for the biosyn dinosaurs
Would be interesting to do similiar thing for Prehistoric Park
Yes!
If dinosaurs got here today, the issue isn't the dinosaurs, it's us that's the big issue.
Very true. Kind of hard to live alongside animals that also have weapons😬
@@dailydinoguy Plus countless political wars with either side supporting or against prehistoric wildlife, along with terrorism, poaching, boycotting and manslaughter for their beliefs.
You should also consider that the dinosaurs in the movies aren’t 100% dinosaurs and have other animals DNA in them it was mentioned in Jurassic World that the Indominus Rex had tropical tree frog DNA in it so she can adapt to the tropical climates so InGen and Masrani would probably just add animal DNA of animals that live in tropical climates for the dinosaurs in their parks
Very true! The genetic editing bit helps clear up any scientific inaccuracies
Great channel!
Thank you!
They used to have polar bears in a zoo in Sweden but not any more as they simply didn't fare very well (and Sweden is still a cold country).
Ya it's too bad they are nearly impossible to keep healthy😔
Presumably natural selection would take place during successive generations. But what changes would be selected for exactly to handle the humidity and heat? 🤔
Very good question! It'd be interesting to speculate on that evolution
to be fair... this question mostly applies to the dinosaurs of the mesozoic.
from what i remeber the ones of jurassic park are transgenic.
as in mixed with the DNA of other animals. (IE: frogs, lizards for example)
The dinosaurs could have lived in Jurassic Park because of an X-factor you over looked: Frog DNA.
The dinosaurs in Jurassic Park were not meant to be 100% in the first place. In the film it stated that they used frog DNA to fill in the gaps in order to resurrect the dinosaurs. (I don't know why they used frogs, birds would have made a lot more sense. Because bird DNA is way closer to dinosaur's.)
Costa Rica is home to over 50 different species of frogs, including the glass frog, Hyalinobatrachium valerioi and the blue poison dart frog, just to name a few. If they had used the DNA from some of or all of those 50+ frog species native to Costa Rica the DNA from those frogs could have kept the dinosaurs alive and in reasonably good health. If the frog DNA had a big enough effect on them.
Well said!👍🏻
@@dailydinoguy Thank you. That means a lot coming from you.
Perhaps the frog dna helped since frogs tend to live in very humid tropical environments. So that would sort of help the dinosaurs survive in the tropical jungles of Isla Nublar
Very true! The genetic editing bit helps clear up any scientific inaccuracies
Hey bro,
I want to see this beautiful channel grow. Maybe, you could come live some day when you're free. I bet most of your subscribers would have some interesting questions for you.
Maybe one day!
The next video should be about what dinosaurs could survive in the modern North America, since in the end of Jurassic World 2 they have escaped there
That seems to be a popular request! I'll add it to the to-do list!
As a gamer and lover of all things dino! I was wondering what your thought's was on the game, Ark? Yes, it has mythical creatures, but i feel like they represent the dinos well!
Ya it has pretty good dinosaur representation! Some of the models are not quite accurate, but it's meant to be fun, not accurate.
Dinos die from changes in atmosphere. Next question.
I mean tbf in the movie im pretty sure they bring up that the dinos DNA has something to help them adapt to the new environment
Very true! The gene editing does help explain away any scientific inaccuracies
I think some of the hadrosaur dinosaurs that lived near the equator might have done well and because hadrosaurs had teeth that could grind any plant into a paste the different plants might not have been a huge issue either.
None of the dinosaurs would have survived Jurassic Park at all, for one simple reason - gut bacteria. Unless ingen found a way to clone gut flora, the dinosaurs would not be able to digest any food, and would have quickly died.
Oh good point!
Just curious, why do heat and humidity offset adaptability in dinosaurs?
Good question! This is based on the assumption the dinosaurs couldn't adapt to the new environment. It seems unlikely they could adapt to an equatorial environment because of magnitude of difference between Jurassic Park and their original environment (at least for most of the dinosaurs; some may have been able to). And we don't have a good measure of phenotypic plasticity, so it's hard to say how adaptable they were.
Great video! With the data gathered on the ideal dinosaur habitats, is there any location on the Earth currently that would be comfortable for the majority of the dinosaurs, where would you make your living dinosaur theme park?
Good question! It's hard to say for certain since they have a pretty wide spread. I'd probably have to do more research to know for sure, but I'm guessing somewhere in the mid-southern U.S.; somewhere in the Carolinas or Virginias
@@dailydinoguy Thank you kindly, I didn’t think that it would be an easy question due to the wide variety of factors but your answer makes sense to me. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
I never actually considered this
I know right? Can't believe it took me so long to even ask that question haha
Do you think we could clone a dinosaur 🦖 some day?
Maybe not clone a dinosaur, but we might be able to reverse engineer birds into dinosaurs. You would have to turn off the genes that code for bird features and turn on the genes that code for more dinosaur features (which scientists have actually been able to do!)
Dig the shirt ! It is a novel accurate Alan Grant getup there !
Thank you! I didn't even plan that haha!
With the Polar Bear example, I would think Zoos would keep the water pretty cold.
Like there are ways to modify an enclosure's environment
It's not so much the temperature of the enclosure, it's the space. Polar bears roam over vast distances in search of prey; they're nomadic. They have a natural wanderlust, and trying to maintain an enclosure that's both big and cold enough for them is a logistical and financial nightmare.
I bet if you had the technology to bring dinosaur back, you probably also have turned technology to seriously alter an environment. But doesn't look like they did that in the movie🤷♂️
@dailydinoguy in Jurassic World, it was mentioned that Frog DNA did allow the Dinosaurs to handle a Tropical Environment better
Aren't modern plants like fruit more digestable than horse tails?
Are you saying the dinosaur names wrong or can they be pronounced differently…
Yeah, stuff like para-sor-a-LOW-fus sounds weird to me. Always heard it para-sor-AH-luh-fus