Ah, it makes all makes sense now. Bardin built the prototype super shotgun and worked out all of kinks before giving the final version to the Doom Slayer.
Yeah! I'm new to the game and have only just discovered the wonders of a proper charged 'shield bash' with the Ironbreaker for generating big chunks of temp HP. Previously, I'd been wrongly using shield pushes to try to achieve big gains (as my weapon is Axe+Shield). It's like a whole new world has opened up in front of me!
5minutes in, you've thrown 5-8 grenades and that 25% chance trait is RnG blessing you. so jealous Edit: just realised its the rangers parting gift perk. silly meeeee
I'd love to play this build, but it's so hard getting used to the ranged focus, ESPECIALLY with random players. I found that more often than not I have to horde control / face tank even though there's a grail knight or warrior priest in the lobby. Playing on Legend difficulty.
Having a strong frontline is important but can be realized if you have a good teammate. Thats also why the firebomb+explosive ordanance is usefull to clear normal enemies arround you fast.
Why barrage on grudge raker? I used to assume that shotgun bash works on the trait. Easy barrage stacks with bash spam. However, I check the section when u spam bashes on horde to generate thp. It didn’t trigger Barrage. Since grudge raker kill most unarmoured enemies in one hit, barrage won’t benefit with horde clear. I think it only works on armoured units, but shotguns are very ineffective on these enemies in general. Could you explain the thought process to me? I am really curious about the benefits of barrage shotgun. I even heard someone recommend using barrage on blunderbuss.
Like every weapon, grudge raker does less damage the next enemies it cleaves. When the hordes keep coming you kill a lot more with the barrage stacks. You could also use hunter but thats a bit less reliable. It would have been amazing if it also worked with the bass xD
Ranger has a talent that increases the ammo he drops when a special is killed and on Cataclysm difficulty there are many specials. This combined ensures you got enough ammo to be shooting almost non-stop
Using the shotgun and his charged shield bash has kept me as a newbie alive so well. Best pairing so far I've seen. Plus that invisibility with knockback is so good
@@chickenhunt5163 seee its things like that that i feel i should know but dont. didnt realize til today i had "talents" supposedly from another player i "shouldnt be in champion difficulty without all of them" who knew? not me.
Why do you run power vs berserkers on the grudge raker? They're unarmoured elites anyways and surely you'd be better taking the usual skaven + infantry no?
It allows you to oneshot berserkers from much further away because you already do so much damage to unarmoured. It makes it really usefull because if you can only oneshot upclose its already too late (think of monk spam or the berserker leap jump)
@@chickenhunt5163 idk I feel like I'd rather have damage vs armoured as well for the stormvermin and chaos warriors. I tried your build last night and it takes me roughly 4 shots to kill a SV and it can be a bit dangerous
@@corporalhiggsorequandary5927 I tried that also but shotgun has such low damage vs armoured that trying to increase its damage does not do much and it takes about the same ammount of shots, better to melee them imo
@@chickenhunt5163 so we can rule that out with armoured but idk, maybe the skaven + infantry could be better? Can take me 3 shots to kill a hookrat and such
The video is a compilation and some non action is skipped so sometimes an ult is used in between. After using a ult there is an bomb icon down left, showing when a free bomb is available.
@@chickenhunt5163 Sometimes it had been a minute judging by your ability bar that you used it, but I checked in game and parting gift is bugged, it lasts forever instead of for the disengage duration.
@@chickenhunt5163 I own the game since end of 2021 and the description always and still read more or less "if used during the ability's duration". Unless it's my english being not good enough to understand a figure of speech or the way they put it, it's bugged. Maybe they mean if the bomb is pulled out during the duration I don't know
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Ah, it makes all makes sense now. Bardin built the prototype super shotgun and worked out all of kinks before giving the final version to the Doom Slayer.
You will never be as good as Cousin Okri.
The push also generates a ridiculous amount of temp HP with the right talent.
Yeah! I'm new to the game and have only just discovered the wonders of a proper charged 'shield bash' with the Ironbreaker for generating big chunks of temp HP. Previously, I'd been wrongly using shield pushes to try to achieve big gains (as my weapon is Axe+Shield). It's like a whole new world has opened up in front of me!
5minutes in, you've thrown 5-8 grenades and that 25% chance trait is RnG blessing you. so jealous
Edit: just realised its the rangers parting gift perk. silly meeeee
I have absolutely no idea how to play this class lol. I get completely wrecked every time
Ranger can be a bit vulnerable indeed. Having a strong frontliner in your team is very helpfull and allows you to keep shooting.
I'd love to play this build, but it's so hard getting used to the ranged focus, ESPECIALLY with random players. I found that more often than not I have to horde control / face tank even though there's a grail knight or warrior priest in the lobby.
Playing on Legend difficulty.
Having a strong frontline is important but can be realized if you have a good teammate.
Thats also why the firebomb+explosive ordanance is usefull to clear normal enemies arround you fast.
Why barrage on grudge raker?
I used to assume that shotgun bash works on the trait. Easy barrage stacks with bash spam. However, I check the section when u spam bashes on horde to generate thp. It didn’t trigger Barrage.
Since grudge raker kill most unarmoured enemies in one hit, barrage won’t benefit with horde clear. I think it only works on armoured units, but shotguns are very ineffective on these enemies in general.
Could you explain the thought process to me? I am really curious about the benefits of barrage shotgun. I even heard someone recommend using barrage on blunderbuss.
Like every weapon, grudge raker does less damage the next enemies it cleaves. When the hordes keep coming you kill a lot more with the barrage stacks.
You could also use hunter but thats a bit less reliable.
It would have been amazing if it also worked with the bass xD
Is there any specefic weapon traits for ammo generation? Ppl in these vids never seem to run outta ammo.
Maybe the ranger passive of killing specials have a chance to drop ammo. Thats my guess anyways
Ranger has a talent that increases the ammo he drops when a special is killed and on Cataclysm difficulty there are many specials. This combined ensures you got enough ammo to be shooting almost non-stop
@@chickenhunt5163 Make sense, thanks for the reply!
@@flameofanor1415 there is an build link in the description if you want to check out the details :)
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Using the shotgun and his charged shield bash has kept me as a newbie alive so well. Best pairing so far I've seen. Plus that invisibility with knockback is so good
Glad you like it!
Shield bash is indeed amazing and also regens huge temp hp
@@chickenhunt5163 seee its things like that that i feel i should know but dont. didnt realize til today i had "talents" supposedly from another player i "shouldnt be in champion difficulty without all of them"
who knew? not me.
@tabunga4669 you can play champ without having most of them but not have a thp talent is torture
Why do you run power vs berserkers on the grudge raker? They're unarmoured elites anyways and surely you'd be better taking the usual skaven + infantry no?
It allows you to oneshot berserkers from much further away because you already do so much damage to unarmoured. It makes it really usefull because if you can only oneshot upclose its already too late (think of monk spam or the berserker leap jump)
@@chickenhunt5163 idk I feel like I'd rather have damage vs armoured as well for the stormvermin and chaos warriors. I tried your build last night and it takes me roughly 4 shots to kill a SV and it can be a bit dangerous
@@corporalhiggsorequandary5927 I tried that also but shotgun has such low damage vs armoured that trying to increase its damage does not do much and it takes about the same ammount of shots, better to melee them imo
@@chickenhunt5163 so we can rule that out with armoured but idk, maybe the skaven + infantry could be better? Can take me 3 shots to kill a hookrat and such
Why not use dual hammers instead?
Single hammer is more chad points
You have free bombs even without using your smoke bomb. Surely you can't be that lucky with improvisation w so how?
The video is a compilation and some non action is skipped so sometimes an ult is used in between. After using a ult there is an bomb icon down left, showing when a free bomb is available.
Also this build is a huge bomb generation machine, read description for explenation :)
@@chickenhunt5163 Sometimes it had been a minute judging by your ability bar that you used it, but I checked in game and parting gift is bugged, it lasts forever instead of for the disengage duration.
@@Toudreyte6501 Thats not a bug, parting gift does indeed last forever until you use a bomb
@@chickenhunt5163 I own the game since end of 2021 and the description always and still read more or less "if used during the ability's duration". Unless it's my english being not good enough to understand a figure of speech or the way they put it, it's bugged. Maybe they mean if the bomb is pulled out during the duration I don't know
Doomguy but cooler
You have to look for ammo always, that's the main issue with this game. Makes you fight melee while you do not want to..
Ranger veteran drops his own ammo pouch when a special is killed by you or your teammates, with the shotty u can shoot the whole game! :)
every class has one career that can make infinite ammo build,huntsman,ranger veteran,bounty hunter or zealot and waystalker