I'm ngl, they better put Shadow in Smash 6. Especially after Year of Shadow, it would both earn them so much money and make fans so happy as they have been asking for this for years.
I'm genuinely astonished by this concept. I spent a lot of last year working on a Shadow concept to turn into a real fighter mod eventually and I really expected yours to be similar to mine. Instead, there's barely anything in common! I think that says a lot about Shadow's potential as a fighter, and the boundless creativity people can have
Fantastic job! You clearly have more knowledge on both Smash's game mechanics and shadow's character than any other moveset creator I have seen before. Incredible thoughtful, well done, and creative take on a Shadow moveset that makes his kit as cool and insane as many of the craziest DLC characters in Ultimate. Thanks for the awesome video!
Once I learned more about Shadow, I never thought of him as an Echo of Sonic. Amy, Shadow & Espio all play the same as Sonic in Heroes, but, that's not indicative of their abilities and is part of the game. Metal Sonic was built by Eggman, meaning Metal Sonic knows every move Sonic will make, therefore Sonic knows every move Metal Sonic will make, strange isn't it?
What a way to start the year! This moveset was incredible and a great homage to the Sonic franchise (and Sonic 3 the movie). I really can't choose my favourite part because I like everything about this moveset. If this is that good, I can't wait to see what's to come. PS: Thank you for not making him an echo, I've had long discussions with my friends about why he should have original moves and the best part is I basically didn't like Sonic at the time.
The song that played in the intro is perfect! It should be in the next smash and maybe be remixed but Its already done well! Also I really want to see Shadow in the next smash!
The only thing I would change is that he has 2 final smashes, one for a non-full chaos gauge, and one for a full chaos gauge, the final smash without the full gauge will be the one you described in the video, the one with the full gauge however, will have Shadow unleash his Doom Wings, before zig-zagging all over the stage in the direction you hold the left control stick in, any players caught will cause a cinematic to play where Shadow then flies up, powers up and then unleashes a barrage of large chaos spears, finishing off with 3 which sends the opponent flying, shadow will then zig-zag fly above the foe before delivering a massively powered dive kick to the opponents, one so powerful that when he spears through them with his kick, they explode instantly, ending the cinematic. (The 2nd Final Smash I thought up of is based on how Shadow finishes off Neo Devil Doom in both in the boss fight, and the cutscene after depleting Nei Devil Doom's health to 0.)
That’s actually super cool! I think you could also add some sort of small draw back as well when Shadow finishes off the attack. Maybe having Shadow lose his inhibitor rings before the finale blow causing Shadow to not be able to fill up his Chaos Energy until he gets his inhibitor rings back! Also adding a sort of staggered idle animation along with having Shadow heavily pant. You’d definitely need to make sure his All-out Finale Smash does BIG damage though!
@Crimson-jf1sl adding Doom Surf as a dash attack could work. Doom morph being a grab-finisher where you throw the player away, and then use the Doom Morph’s tether to launch towards them and then slam into them with the squid-like body! Doom Spear could be used when Shadow loses his inhibitor rings after his Full Blast Finale Smash as more of a crutch for losing your Charged Chaos abilities for a short while (shooting 3 spears instead of 1 allowing for more opportunities to get out of a bad situation)! Doom wings would just be added as a cosmetic during the Full Blast Finale Smash making it feel more powerful.
I'm not the biggest fan of Shadow, but I still ADORE this moveset and it's easily my favorite Shadow moveset concept. It looks cool as hell, captures almost all of Shadow abilities, and gives him a few Sonic moves without going too far in the echo department.
I think you really fixed Sonic’s biggest issues as a character while also making Shadow feel completely unique! Encouraging combat with hard-hitting attacks, and Chaos Energy being used as a system to keep you and your competitors on their toes. Also, I’m not sure if you mentioned this in the video, but making it so Shadow’s Chaos Energy only fills up when dealing/taking damage would greatly punish campers and reward well executed combos! This video deserves way more attention and really ends off the year of Shadow with me having hope that Shadow will get a chance to shine in the next Smash Bros. Title!
Currently at 2:19. From the way you're describing him it sounds like you designed him to be the Akuma to Sonic's Ryu. Fundamentally a similar character to Ryu/Sonic, but trades constant offense at the cost of defense and survivability. Capable of closing out rounds/stocks quickly after starting, but also folds like tissue paper if you can't keep up the pressure.
I'm of the opinion that Metal Sonic would work better as an Echo Fighter of Sonic, if there was ever going to be one. Change up Metal's attacks to hit once but harder instead of multiple times, give him Fox's up-B for the Maximum Overdrive move (or Fox's down-B for the Black Shield, if you prefer), and you're golden.
Maybe a bit late for this, but perhaps another character to tackle a moveset for could be Astro Bot? He has a simple base moveset in his own game (punch, spin, jump, and laser hover), but a lot of options through his power-ups, like the frogs, the chicken, the monkey, etc. And even then, he shows that he can gain the powers of other Sony characters by using their equipment, so if you feel like you can't make a coherent moveset with just his base skills and the given power-ups, make up your own with the over 190 VIP bots. That way, Astro Bot could not just represent his own series, but also some series that don't really have the chance of getting in, kind of making him like Mr. Game & Watch; his moveset is just references, but with enough going on to make it also work as a coherent moveset and not just a bunch of references thrown together.
Very good video. If I had any nitpicks, it'd be that Id love for him to have the finger snap move from Sonic Battle (maybe it was in and I missed it?). Also the Mephiles color shouldve have more of a faded green teal streak, rather than a bright blue teal streak. Maybe a Super Shadow color would be cool to since a lot of people like to play with final smashes off (most of my friends lol)
I really hope they give a chance for Shadow in the next Smash game. As many fans, I've wanted him to be playable since Brawl, as you showed in your video, he can be a unique character with very interesting and versatile moveset, also, if they run out of time, they can make him a echo fighter for Sonic or a semi clone. Really a waste opportunity he has not been in Smash.
this is probably one of the best and most innovative movesets i have ever seen based around shadow the hedgehog. that being said. is there anyway i can use SFM to create my own smash character portraits to make my movesets using character protraits just like yours but completely different?
@@bigotbently9612 If that's your takeaway, you didn't watch the full video. Seriously, you armchair character designers are always worse at this than the person you are trying to critique. Every single time.
I'd Like to Throw in Some Requests! Lara Croft(Tomb Raider) Eve(Stellar Blade) Viola(Bayonetta) Mega Man .EXE(Mega Man Battle Network) Bass. EXE(Mega Man Battle Network) Kos Mos(Xenosaga) Fawful(Mario and Luigi) Sylux(Metroid Dread) Mach Rider Juri(Street Fighter) Strider Hiryu(Strider) Zacian(Pokémon Sword and Shield) Alphen(Tales of Arise) Isaac(Golden Sun) Midna(The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess) Hyde Kido(Under Night In-Birth) Alear(Fire Emblem Engage) Scizor(Pokémon) Anduin Lothar(World of Warcraft)
I got six characters idea that need to be in smash 1. Spring man: I really wish he was in smash to represent arms so he can duke it out with min min . 2.gunvolt : I think he could be perfect for smash he represents his game azure striker gunvolt with his electric powers 3.zetterburn: zetterburn is will be a interesting character his game rivals of aether his fire powers 4.brachydios: a powerful monster with his explosive slime that makes the opponent blow up. 5.ninjara : another arms character who rival with both spring man and min min 6.fossil fighter : fossil fighter is cool character who represents fossil fighter with velociraptor triceratops T. rex you have a wild time.
Character concepts i want to see The intergalactic Astronomical Bot Astro Bot ( Astro Bot series ) Worlds Best Backwards Driver Mater ( Cars franchise ) The International Mega Star Johnny Cage ( Mortal Kombat series )
@emeraldninja1153 would be funny, tho & little know fact Cars is technically a video game franchise with movies because the tie-in video game for the first movie was released before the movie
As a Shadow fan I can say that this is really damn good. I do think he has way too many moves though. With just chaos control and chaos blast with command inputs, your homing attack for neutral b and the chaos spears for side b and Sonic's spincharge but with something different probably I think it's enough for the specials. Also I don't think he needs 2 forward tilts and 2 down tilts? (I don't know if they're 2)
Well Doom Spear is basically chaos spear which he has in this, Doom Blast is basically the rapid beat down thing which he has. Surf and Morph are for specific traversal. Doom Wing I guess COULD be his recovery or something, but I guess him warping is just easier to make, no brainer, and harder to balance.
>Calls character broken >Says something designed to be limited in use part of his base moveset, making him far more broken than if it was limited. Smash fans in a nutshell.
I'm ngl, they better put Shadow in Smash 6. Especially after Year of Shadow, it would both earn them so much money and make fans so happy as they have been asking for this for years.
Years more like decades
@@freeforall2069 indeed
I'm genuinely astonished by this concept. I spent a lot of last year working on a Shadow concept to turn into a real fighter mod eventually and I really expected yours to be similar to mine. Instead, there's barely anything in common! I think that says a lot about Shadow's potential as a fighter, and the boundless creativity people can have
I must say those particle effects in those example renders are extremely impressive, like that looks on par with the actual game’s effects. Subbed.
Fantastic job! You clearly have more knowledge on both Smash's game mechanics and shadow's character than any other moveset creator I have seen before. Incredible thoughtful, well done, and creative take on a Shadow moveset that makes his kit as cool and insane as many of the craziest DLC characters in Ultimate. Thanks for the awesome video!
This Shadow design sounds like a blast to play! Echo or not, Shadow’s inclusion is a long time coming. Great job!
Once I learned more about Shadow, I never thought of him as an Echo of Sonic. Amy, Shadow & Espio all play the same as Sonic in Heroes, but, that's not indicative of their abilities and is part of the game. Metal Sonic was built by Eggman, meaning Metal Sonic knows every move Sonic will make, therefore Sonic knows every move Metal Sonic will make, strange isn't it?
Nintendo should hire this man
What a way to start the year! This moveset was incredible and a great homage to the Sonic franchise (and Sonic 3 the movie). I really can't choose my favourite part because I like everything about this moveset. If this is that good, I can't wait to see what's to come.
PS: Thank you for not making him an echo, I've had long discussions with my friends about why he should have original moves and the best part is I basically didn't like Sonic at the time.
The song that played in the intro is perfect! It should be in the next smash and maybe be remixed but Its already done well! Also I really want to see Shadow in the next smash!
I'm ngl that down throw really reminds me of when shadow uses sonic as a skateboard in sonic prime
These videos are edited so well
The only thing I would change is that he has 2 final smashes, one for a non-full chaos gauge, and one for a full chaos gauge, the final smash without the full gauge will be the one you described in the video, the one with the full gauge however, will have Shadow unleash his Doom Wings, before zig-zagging all over the stage in the direction you hold the left control stick in, any players caught will cause a cinematic to play where Shadow then flies up, powers up and then unleashes a barrage of large chaos spears, finishing off with 3 which sends the opponent flying, shadow will then zig-zag fly above the foe before delivering a massively powered dive kick to the opponents, one so powerful that when he spears through them with his kick, they explode instantly, ending the cinematic. (The 2nd Final Smash I thought up of is based on how Shadow finishes off Neo Devil Doom in both in the boss fight, and the cutscene after depleting Nei Devil Doom's health to 0.)
That’s actually super cool! I think you could also add some sort of small draw back as well when Shadow finishes off the attack. Maybe having Shadow lose his inhibitor rings before the finale blow causing Shadow to not be able to fill up his Chaos Energy until he gets his inhibitor rings back! Also adding a sort of staggered idle animation along with having Shadow heavily pant. You’d definitely need to make sure his All-out Finale Smash does BIG damage though!
@@cashtheguy624smart. I was wondering how the doom powers would be encorperated.
@Crimson-jf1sl adding Doom Surf as a dash attack could work. Doom morph being a grab-finisher where you throw the player away, and then use the Doom Morph’s tether to launch towards them and then slam into them with the squid-like body! Doom Spear could be used when Shadow loses his inhibitor rings after his Full Blast Finale Smash as more of a crutch for losing your Charged Chaos abilities for a short while (shooting 3 spears instead of 1 allowing for more opportunities to get out of a bad situation)! Doom wings would just be added as a cosmetic during the Full Blast Finale Smash making it feel more powerful.
I'm not the biggest fan of Shadow, but I still ADORE this moveset and it's easily my favorite Shadow moveset concept.
It looks cool as hell, captures almost all of Shadow abilities, and gives him a few Sonic moves without going too far in the echo department.
I think you really fixed Sonic’s biggest issues as a character while also making Shadow feel completely unique! Encouraging combat with hard-hitting attacks, and Chaos Energy being used as a system to keep you and your competitors on their toes. Also, I’m not sure if you mentioned this in the video, but making it so Shadow’s Chaos Energy only fills up when dealing/taking damage would greatly punish campers and reward well executed combos! This video deserves way more attention and really ends off the year of Shadow with me having hope that Shadow will get a chance to shine in the next Smash Bros. Title!
This is easily the best moveset for Shadow that I’ve seen
Best work indeed! Excellent video!
41:39 FINAL FLASH!!!!
Currently at 2:19. From the way you're describing him it sounds like you designed him to be the Akuma to Sonic's Ryu.
Fundamentally a similar character to Ryu/Sonic, but trades constant offense at the cost of defense and survivability. Capable of closing out rounds/stocks quickly after starting, but also folds like tissue paper if you can't keep up the pressure.
Why not Ken?
@@jamesjoe1690 Akuma is cooler.
I want a shadow trailer with Mewtwo and shadow interacting
I love this moveset for Shadow.
I'm of the opinion that Metal Sonic would work better as an Echo Fighter of Sonic, if there was ever going to be one.
Change up Metal's attacks to hit once but harder instead of multiple times, give him Fox's up-B for the Maximum Overdrive move (or Fox's down-B for the Black Shield, if you prefer), and you're golden.
I. Love. This. I love it
Maybe a bit late for this, but perhaps another character to tackle a moveset for could be Astro Bot? He has a simple base moveset in his own game (punch, spin, jump, and laser hover), but a lot of options through his power-ups, like the frogs, the chicken, the monkey, etc. And even then, he shows that he can gain the powers of other Sony characters by using their equipment, so if you feel like you can't make a coherent moveset with just his base skills and the given power-ups, make up your own with the over 190 VIP bots. That way, Astro Bot could not just represent his own series, but also some series that don't really have the chance of getting in, kind of making him like Mr. Game & Watch; his moveset is just references, but with enough going on to make it also work as a coherent moveset and not just a bunch of references thrown together.
Very good video. If I had any nitpicks, it'd be that Id love for him to have the finger snap move from Sonic Battle (maybe it was in and I missed it?). Also the Mephiles color shouldve have more of a faded green teal streak, rather than a bright blue teal streak. Maybe a Super Shadow color would be cool to since a lot of people like to play with final smashes off (most of my friends lol)
he does have the finger snap.
@BrandonBanchev Gotcha, must've missed it then
I really hope they give a chance for Shadow in the next Smash game. As many fans, I've wanted him to be playable since Brawl, as you showed in your video, he can be a unique character with very interesting and versatile moveset, also, if they run out of time, they can make him a echo fighter for Sonic or a semi clone. Really a waste opportunity he has not been in Smash.
Impressive, can you do more Sonic characters please?
this is probably one of the best and most innovative movesets i have ever seen based around shadow the hedgehog. that being said. is there anyway i can use SFM to create my own smash character portraits to make my movesets using character protraits just like yours but completely different?
@smashbrosgoat Uh I think you just use sfm youself and look up guides and tutorials online on how to get started.
If you do another Sonic character, please let it be Tails, Knuckles, and Amy.
Also, if you can, please make a moveset for Metal Sonic.
You’re in luck! Shadow will be coming in February 2025, next month!
Uh...what do you mean by this exactly?
@@DaughterofAnubis
WDYM?
@ Forget what I said. You’re not gonna believe me anyways.
@@DaughterofAnubis
Try me. What's he "coming into"?
his uncle works at Nintendo
I was hoping his doom powers would be represented but alas
Same. I thought this would be the moveset that includes ALL of shadows' abilities, including the gun and motorcycle
@@bigotbently9612 That is so much worse than the design already in the video.
@@bigotbently9612 If that's your takeaway, you didn't watch the full video. Seriously, you armchair character designers are always worse at this than the person you are trying to critique. Every single time.
Purple & Green are also colors in Shadow 05's multiplayer. So those two are not original colors.
Any hints for the next challenger?
Did you design the 3d models and theeffects? They look really good!
12:58
MARIOS UPTILT FROM SMASH 4!?!?!
his combo game would be elite
@BrandonBanchev ELIIIITE
@ LITE LITE LITE
I wonder if you could do Ayumi Tachibana from Famicom Detective Club series? You might want to look into her bio for some of her moves.
I'd Like to Throw in Some Requests!
Lara Croft(Tomb Raider)
Eve(Stellar Blade)
Viola(Bayonetta)
Mega Man .EXE(Mega Man Battle Network)
Bass. EXE(Mega Man Battle Network)
Kos Mos(Xenosaga)
Fawful(Mario and Luigi)
Sylux(Metroid Dread)
Mach Rider
Juri(Street Fighter)
Strider Hiryu(Strider)
Zacian(Pokémon Sword and Shield)
Alphen(Tales of Arise)
Isaac(Golden Sun)
Midna(The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess)
Hyde Kido(Under Night In-Birth)
Alear(Fire Emblem Engage)
Scizor(Pokémon)
Anduin Lothar(World of Warcraft)
Where is that damn four chaos emerald
Could you make a moveset for an obscure character like Boogerman please ?
Excuse me. You thought that my boy Geno was gonna be a newcomer in 2024, but you didn't announce him yet.
BrawlFan1 would be proud of this. New Sub!
This comment is like saying your local walk-in doctor is proud of the neurosurgeon, but glad to have you.
Yeah that really isn't a complement to feliciafan in anyway🤣
Can you do a move set video on what if mystique was in super smash Bros
mystique? from xman?
i want shadow the hedgehog for smash 6
19:45 FORWARD AIREAL
Is that an Alpharad Reference I hear?!
Just wanted to note that Delzethin will be bringing his own challenger approaching concept for Shadow as well.
Then he'll have the second best Shadow moveset to come out this year, and that's giving that tourist the benefit of the doubt.
Know we need silver
Then knuckles, tails, and Eggman
@@jamesjoe1690 and Blaze, never forget Blaze
@@emeraldninja1153 what could blaze do?
This opening is from sonic 06 and other game not fanmade
Can You Do A Moveset For Yugi Muto/Yami Yugi From Yugioh! Please?
I got six characters idea that need to be in smash
1. Spring man: I really wish he was in smash to represent arms so he can duke it out with min min .
2.gunvolt : I think he could be perfect for smash he represents his game azure striker gunvolt with his electric powers
3.zetterburn: zetterburn is will be a interesting character his game rivals of aether his fire powers
4.brachydios: a powerful monster with his explosive slime that makes the opponent blow up.
5.ninjara : another arms character who rival with both spring man and min min
6.fossil fighter : fossil fighter is cool character who represents fossil fighter with velociraptor triceratops T. rex you have a wild time.
He never takes requests
It just my list
I am amused by the idea of Brachydios, never seen anyone request it.
I would love Fossil Fighter though!
@@Tombofresh well I kind of imagine a monster hunter character to be in smash and brachydios is the one I picked
Character concepts i want to see
The intergalactic Astronomical Bot
Astro Bot ( Astro Bot series )
Worlds Best Backwards Driver
Mater ( Cars franchise )
The International Mega Star
Johnny Cage ( Mortal Kombat series )
he never takes requests
@waheedabdullah6371 no it's just a list of characters i want to see him talk about in the future
I don't think he's ever gonna do one on Mater, buddy
@emeraldninja1153 would be funny, tho & little know fact Cars is technically a video game franchise with movies because the tie-in video game for the first movie was released before the movie
@Karson-Duh-FoxThat may be my favorite fun fact I know. HE HAS A CHANCE!
As a Shadow fan I can say that this is really damn good. I do think he has way too many moves though. With just chaos control and chaos blast with command inputs, your homing attack for neutral b and the chaos spears for side b and Sonic's spincharge but with something different probably I think it's enough for the specials. Also I don't think he needs 2 forward tilts and 2 down tilts? (I don't know if they're 2)
They're a bit excessive, but they're important for unique combo routes
It’s c0uld in next switch c0ns0le smash legacy game
Where are the Doom Powers?
As cool as they'd be they seemingly are one-off powers that may not fully return.
Well Doom Spear is basically chaos spear which he has in this, Doom Blast is basically the rapid beat down thing which he has. Surf and Morph are for specific traversal. Doom Wing I guess COULD be his recovery or something, but I guess him warping is just easier to make, no brainer, and harder to balance.
They likely aren't going to be mainstay abilities, so it would be silly to give them to him over his normal skillset.
chaos control should be base moveset
>Calls character broken
>Says something designed to be limited in use part of his base moveset, making him far more broken than if it was limited.
Smash fans in a nutshell.
Do the noise concept video
making shadow broken for no reason
First or smth.
N0 y0u still N0T that guy,s0 st0p 0r ain’t like y0u(still gen Z b0z0)