I’m the one who predicted the RX would be a catastrophe to begin with You all chose to laugh at me the internets biggest Toyota hater even though I also own a Toyota
they only describe the car because they're too chickenshit, they'd lose their press allocations. Or they're reviewing units from car dealers hoping to get noticed by corporate
@@naveenthemachine I don't think the hybrid versions are bad, but only because Toyota hybrids are almost always good drivetrains. This one, however, kind of sucks. I really don't see why anyone wouldn't pay a little more and get the hybrid, when the gas savings would pay for the difference in a few years.
@@naveenthemachine Hey! I've seen your comments over on the Kirk Kriefels channel. It's hilarious to see those Lexus/Toyota fan boys get so angry. Keep up the comments!
Thx for the honest review. Just as I suspected. I'm hanging onto my previous version (Gen 4) RX350 with the N/A V6. Mine's got the Luxury Package & is paid off.
Appreciate you guys being able to re-evaluate your initial impression... So few journalists/reviewers have that integrity. Seems to me this is really just a Rav4 with better sound deadening, fancier door cards, and a nightmare technology experience.
RAV 4 ? LMFAO! BRUH! a RAV 4 is still a RAV 4... it's far from ANY Lexus Experience lol! SHEESH! you won't CONFUSE a RAV 4 Prime with a Lexus 500h F sport Performance
So glad I bought a new 2022 luxury, smooth, V6 AWD , regular gas this past January. Have put 14,000 plus miles on it and just finished a 5500 mi. trip, great ride.
I thought this 4 cylinder was going to be cheaper than the out going one with the more expensive engine and the stronger parts that support that bigger engine.
You can get a well equipped x5 45e phev with the straight 6 B58 with better milage, more faster, more refined, better trans for 65k after the 7500 federal tax credit. This Lexus doesn't cut it.
@@naveenthemachine IS 350 owner here. The engine was a big factor in my decision to purchase the car. I've driven a couple RXes, and it was very smooth and suited them well. Then in my IS it has a slightly different character. Truly a well-made engine.
You can adjust the height of the trunk by pressing the open/close button for 3 seconds after setting the trunk height to desired. Thank you for the awesome video.
As excellent as savagegeese reviews are, they've collectively killed my interest in new cars and left me disillusioned in my search for something that's both great and less than $60k.
this is actually a good example of how important it is to get the electronics right! in most cases funny enough it only shows after the warranty is off...
Yup. Toyota's safety suite has had all the irritating and meaningless beeping for years now. It's ridiculous if the driver can't even tell what's wrong. They badly need to get that sorted out, as it gives a terrible impression.
@@markmiller3279 I have had seven Lexus products and though they will alert you in situations that actually prevents a crash, none seemed hyper-active or too intrusive so your statement "Toyota's safety suite has had all the irritating and meaningless beeping for years now" is false and misleading. Additionally, most can be disabled by the driver.
that happened with my test drive of the GX Lexus today and we could not figure out how to stop it! The mechanic said the stupid sensor on back seat was causing it!@@markmiller3279
The old V6 used regular gas. The turbo 4 requires premium fuel. So the extra 2mpg of the 4 cylinder turbo is negated by the added fuel cost. Why bother. The hybrid NX350h will run regular (premium recommended not required). The hybrid is the way to go here.
@@naveenthemachine LC500 for you, rx is not designed for that, it is clear that RX or rather all Lexus cars (including LC500) are intended for those who are calm in driving, relaxed, durable machines and the brand has also been guaranteed, that's their philosophy since the 90s until now. The point is, don't expect too much, want more, have more performance, etc., because that is the same as wanting Elon Musk to make ICE cars to compete with Toyota, GM motors may be VW grub, it's not that Elon Musk can't do that but it's against his philosophy
@@lightshunshine3861 the RX is nothing more than a Toyota Highlander with lipgloss. Why wouldn’t you just save the cash and get a Highlander instead? The RX has zero luxury
Watching and listening to the road test of the 2023 Lexus RX350 (with a turbo I4) reminded me of my 2018 Mazda CX5 (n/a 2.5L I4) which I traded in for a 2022 Lexus RX350 with its V6. I love the smooth power and sound of my Lexus V6, reminded me of the V6 power in my older 2007 Nissan Murano. I hope Lexus brings back a V6 to the RX350 if government regulations don't prevent that.
Get over it, everyone is going to more torque less cylinders less pollution engines… Lexus is not alone, Mercedes, BMW, Audi all converted years ago, so quit your whiny nonsense 😢… go buy some outdated American POS if you want a gas guzzler.
I'm relieved that someone realizes the infotainment display is large for the sake of being large. Seems like there was zero effort into designing a unique cabin
That's not even a large display. The Mercedes and Cadillac have much much larger displays 30 even 50 in. All things being equal the buyers wanted larger displays and the oem responded
You can turn the brightest of the screen down for night or set for night driving. The turbo engine with the new transmission is incredible and the car is so quiet and smooth. I can't see these guys driving a luxury vehicle and that is perfectly okay.
Every time I think of selling my 3UZ V8 Lexus GS, I'm reminded by videos like these that engines like the 3UZ will never exist again. I'm keeping that car.
@@naveenthemachine I think Toyota, as a whole, is too conservative in their designs. They seem to rely more on on their brand, and reliability history to sell cars, than in cutting age stuff. They are the Glock of the car industry.
You get the impression Lexus CAN make these cars really special but just doesn't. I can't figure out what it is that's holding them back. Cost? Just conservatism? Is trying to carry over as much as possible from the rav what's holding it back? I don't mind the styling but this car's competitors are more compelling in a few dimensions.
As someone who lives north suburbs of toronto, with a big chinese population, these rx350's are everywhere. Hearing you guys describe it as ultra quiet and sleeper mode means it is the perfect car for the folks that i see day in day out driving these. This is going to be a massive seller forsure at least in my area
Yes, they're very popular with older Chinese drivers in San Francisco, too. That demographic buys Asian consistently. A German car is considered too showy and unreliable. Quite a few Acuras out in those neighborhoods, too.
I live in toronto and for me I associate the car with middle aged white women who have NO idea what a turn signal is, who park on the sidewalk and wait for a light with half the fucking car in the intersection already.
My theory is that they're doing this like end panic because of electric cars not needing grills, so they overshot the mark. And maybe they think it looks more luxurious and impressive. Maybe they were just damn bored and out of ideas. - In any case, it is an expression of imbalance.
You guys have totally the wrong idea of the RX, it’s a reliable and luxury long distance cruiser. Not a sports car.. and turn the safety settings down to avoid the beeps.
Personally I like the look of thin window height, Camaro style, and realistically, with all cars now getting up so high (all SUV and tall EV Hatchback) you will still see out of this window
The 2022 with the V6 is going to be more sought after used/new than this. This turbocharged 4 cyl is going to make a lot of Lexus service departments very rich :-)
@@markmiller3279 The engine maybe , but not that turbo,it will not lost has long has that engine hence you will have to dig deeper into your pocket to maintain this Vehicle
Don't underestimate Japenese (especially Toyota) engineering. They under-engineer on purpose to avoid components breaking in the long run@@little123456788
A few items you mentioned as flaws are actually not. The rear lift back opening height can be custom set with a three-second touch of the button. The inattentive driver beeping can be turned off in settings. There is a shortcut menu in the touchscreen for frequently accessed, it's right next to the climate button. And the items you're missing in the gauge cluster that got "moved" to the HUD are all still available in the gauge cluster, you just have to set them in preferences.
@EBone12355 I am in similar thought process as you. The majority of people who buy this do not care too much about the 4 banger. They just want something that is reliable (which Lexus has in spades), quiet, and comfortable. Like the video says, they are car enthusiasts, and a lot of auto journalists basically complain about the same things. I am pretty sure a multi billion dollar company has done enough market research to realize who their audiences are and what those customers want.
@@drivescene6747 agreed 100% That was the case before the RX was even unveiled. Still the case before anyones driven it Sure enough still the case after driving it All I can say to you all is I the internets biggest Toyota hater told you so
I have a 2017 RX350 and, after looking at the new model, I will be keeping my 2017 for years to come. The new infotainment is arguably worse than the old one in terms of hassle and lack of hard buttons. They also did not add a torque vectoring rear diff, which I would have expected at a minimum since they've had it in the RAV4 and Highlander for a few years already. Very disappointing, and it means the Highlander has a better drivetrain in addition to more space. The front end is also ugly as sin. I'd rather have the overstated grill on the 2017 than the weird hood bulge which wraps around the top of the grill on the new model. My only gripe with the 2017 is the 8-speed transmission. I wish they had kept the old 6-speed which is much smoother.
@@mervinprone I couldn't care less about Apple CarPlay. The lack of touch screen is something I initially thought would bother me, but actually the mouse thing that everyone likes to hate is really not that bad. It's better than stretching my arm to reach and touch the screen, so it actually makes using the interface pretty convenient. I only wish it had a faster response time.
@@mervinprone I have a 2017 as well, and yes, it does bother me, but 99% i already know where i'm going, so not huge. It is for sure the biggest problem of the old car and it is on 3G so all the techy stuff is going away in a couple weeks. I think this means a lot of 2017 and older RX owners may start looking for a replacement, after being burned by this, and the complete lack of empathy from Lexus...........it's going to hurt them.
That HUD controls would drive me crazy. There isn't much I like about it except that it is a "Lexus". I think my daughters Mazda CX5 is better and much cheaper.
Thats the beauty, Mazda doesnt carry the burden like Toyota/Lexus does, they have all the freedom to make nice quality cars for the right amount of price. While on the other hand Toyota is beeing fucked on both sides. It cannot use super nice materials and build quality cause thats reserved for Lexus only, while at the same time its loosing its status bang per buck to KIA/Hyundai products. While Lexus cannot compete to a true Luxury manufacturers like Germans, Volvo and Genesis cause it shares their platforms and drivetrains with Toyota.
I've always been a huge Lexus fan, but after watching years of Savagegeese videos, I just wouldn't be able to justify paying this much for a vehicle with stamped steel control arms.
Japanese luxury has always been 1.5 generations behind whether its the chassis or the engine. Aluminum control arms will probably make it in 2028 or so. That said, the material of the lower arm is probably the last thing that our parents/grandparents care about when they look to buy this car lol
@@ak2112 You’ve proven the point which is that the rest of the industry is improving. The RX has gotten progressively less refined and thus a worse value in the process. I can’t believe you’re making me defend Jeep 🤦🏻♂️
I rode in one and had similar thoughts... It was great, quiet, comfortable... But so is almost everything else. Once upon a time, that "L" on the front made you feel like you were making "the smart" luxury buy. Now it just feels like your taking an "L".
I bought my dad’s 15 Highlander V6 when he upgraded to a 20 Highlander XLE Hybrid a couple years ago. I’ve been very impressed with both. I love the V6 and lack of safety electronics. It can’t beep at you for every little thing. The hybrid fuel economy is ridiculous, easily over the 35 mpg est. figure all the time. The V6 gets 23 during recent 2000 mile road trip. The softex seats have been great in our RAV4 we had for over 7 years, and age great in the Hybrid. I can’t see why you would buy the Lexus over the Highlander anymore.
This is the best selling mid size SUV. Lexus is the first to introduce a crossover and this new generation is simply the best. If you love tech and gadgets, this car is for you. Awesome vehicle.
This decade is clearly about transitioning everything to full electric. You can see manufacturers skimping and cutting so many corners on new or refreshed products, which just means they are putting resources into electric architecture and technology research. Aside from boutique manufacturers, the age of the ICE engine is coming to a near end.
I've worked for Lexus for 10 years as a service advisor. Sadly over the years I've had to watch our "premium" customer service slowly diminish closer to that of a Toyota dealership. We went from offices to build personal relationships with our clients to working in a fish bowl and herding or guests threw like cattle. Just like this RX not feeling premium enough the same is happening to our dealership experience taking a massive dive. Soon enough Lexus will be just another Acura or Hyundai product.
never thought of Lexus as a Acura, but, at least for me, maybe cause I was born in the 80's , Acura has never been " premium " enough. Hyundai, with the Genesis, well, at least on UA-cam reviews, it looks different
Brilliant. Just the perfect amount of snark and humor as well as technical nuance. Have owned Lexus and Toyota. Hated the rear hatch speed and the horrible historical menus from Lexus clearly demonstrated the design and ergonomic folks hate each other. The move to touch screen has helped and finally the lawyers said it was ok to speed up the rear hatch speeds.
Totally agree. The only reason anyone would buy it now is they are expecting reliability and that may be questionable since it is an under powered straining engine that might not hold up very well. Everyone is commenting it is related to emissions, well they are using the V6 in the larger SUV and Trucks. So I question if this is why they chose this path to the straining 4 cylinder, they should have made it an option to get the V6. Also, what is the difference in the RX and the NX except the NX is smaller but the same powertrain. I am a Lexus fan and drive the current design with the V6 but I am disappointed.
Can do it through main screen software or clicking the hatch button to stop it at the height you want and then holding it down for a few seconds I believe.
The previous version is the best looking RX ever. The controversial grill and sharp edges were all perfect 10/10. Especially the 2016 model. Subsequent updates messed up the design a little bit but it still remained a great design. This new version is not bad. Infact, I like it but I loved the sharp edges a lot more. I would be happier if they go back to something close to the 2016 model.
I agree, I currently have a 2013 X5 and when it wears out ill probably go for a clean low mileage 4th gen RX350 in ruby red with the black interior. I just sold a 2014 ES300H with the ruby red paint job and already kinda miss it. 😅
Don’t cluster everyone into your opinion that the previous version was “the best looking ever”. The best looking to YOU not everyone else. Lexus did not “mess up” subsequent updates. The 23 update is the best TO ME.
Sorry. That ugly floating pillar design kills what would be a decent looking CUV. I think the 2 steps older generation is the sweet spot in terms of exterior design (AL10 platform).
You guys need to drive the vehicle more before making reviews. 1 button is touched to get to driving modes. The HUD is amazing and is bright and adjustable if needed. I can't imaging driving without it now. Very easy to use and you dont have to be looking down for buttons. For beeping alerts I don't know what your talking about, it hardly beeps when I drive and I have them all activated. Sounds like your exaggerating a bit. One thing I did find was engine noise is a little louder with the 4 cyl. The 4 cyl has more power than the 6, plus less on gas so I'd rather deal with a little extra noise.
Thank you for being honest. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who absolutely hate small displacement 4-banger turbo engine. There is more to an engine than just torque and horsepower numbers on paper. And don't get me started on that grill.
I've always thought a Lexus felt generic in some way, I mean they're high quality and durable, and hopefully reliable with the new engine. But like you said it doesn't feel special like a premium or luxury car should. Also I'm so glad you've touch on the 50-70k 4 cylinders, why do they think that is luxury. When I hear luxury I do not think of a 4 cylinder, especially when it overall performance isn't better than an out going V6. I'd much rather own an MDX, X5, or GLE450 than this, but most will lease it and think they're supreme over everyone.
@@naveenthemachine i know and its great car for that matter, but as an premium car manufacturer you cannot have mayority of your cars based on lower end vehicles (Toyotas).
I own a 2023 RX350 and I disagree with most of your unfairly negative opinions. This is a superb car, and I feel no "generic luxury" as you say so! The HUD is great and the car accelerates very smoothly and without any "rattling noise" that you claim in your review, and the new technologies are just useful and easy to use. I owned BMW X3 for years, and test drove X5, Acura MDX, and couple of other cars. For me Lexus RX350 was a no brainer and it was the best $65K ever spent in my life (got the Luxury trim). After 4.5 months and 2800 miles, I love this car more and more every time that I drive it or look at it.
Thank you for this! I have my heart set on a 2024 RX350h Luxury, and I am about to pull the trigger. I test drove a couple of weeks ago and the ML sound system blew me away. My first new car in 18 years and my 60th birthday present. 😃
I have the RX450h+ and after 10k miles - I come to appreciate it more day by day. I‘ve done 2500 miles in EV mode only and of the rest, about 30% was regen.
If anyone is interested in getting the F-sport trim I urge you to spend at least 20 minutes sitting in the seat. I think the new F-Sport heavily bolstered seats dont fit everyone. I don't consider myself fat at all and I think the bottom bolsters are seriously way too aggressive and my bottom gets sore sitting in this car past 1 hour.
luxury is not only price. let me tell you, being able to sit 5 hours in a car and getting out of it without feeling like you've been through a meatgrinder is definitely a luxury@@naveenthemachine
It lives longer, it runs smoother, it cost lesser, it has better design, everything you ever need is in this Lexus. It can fxcking run faster than your car ever will. @@naveenthemachine
@@naveenthemachinedo you realize the Lamborghini Urus rides on a Volkswagen Touareg platform but it sure is funny how you don't know or mention that also Ferrari uses Fiat components Audi's are basically Volkswagen's the Porsche 911 started out as a Beetle The Bugatti Veyron uses a key and mirror switch from a Passat Maseratis uses Dodge infotainment screens and other components
@@theroyalcrown9165 the Touareg is not an economy car. It’s VW’s flagship suv with Audi powertrains, Porsche powertrains, RWD based AWD system, v10 engines, etc. you’re not gonna find any of these in a Jetta or golf or Passat Hence why the Touareg is differentiated from lesser VW’s.
The added conversation during the last bit of the driving portion is very fair. This isn't a Highlander (price wise), you expect more. An eco-4cyl doesn't provide a luxury experience.
Also it took me 1-2 hours to get use to the steering wheel etc! just focus on the drive! the HUD is awesome and the safety systems are not too intrusive! They resolved all the issues with all the pre-production software annoyances with the beeps and the front cross traffic alert! it only beeps if the car is accelerating into an oncoming car! also the auto brake when it senses a car at certain speeds is wonderful! very very smooth! LOVE IT! you don't even have to activate cruise control in order for it to operate. The 8+ months wait for the Rx500h was well well worth it!
Some journalists are giving the new front end a lot of negative feedback. Potato, Poh-tah-toh. I prefer it over all previous years. One man's ugly step-sister is another's Cinderella! I think this is the best looking RX yet! You can set the infotainment screen to NIGHT MODE and the screen isn't bright as it is in day mode. You can also use settings on steering wheel/HUD to get around Infotainment as well as "Hey Lexus". As with all new 'toys', you eventually fall into habitual use, so none of this should be an issue to an Owner. I've watched countless reviews for several manufacturers and seeing HUD with polarized sunglasses has been an issue for all. There is also the ability to adjust hatch height, alerts (less chimes), etc. As you said, you're car enthusiasts. Of course Lexus is a bore to you. People who buy Lexus are looking for comfort and luxury.. We want to get into our "couch-like" comfortable car, turn up the tunes, and drive. Those who want performance should be watching Porsche reviews. While I appreciate your POV, I suggest to those seriously interested in an RX (or other vehicle), to join owner groups and get perspective from actual car owners (this is exactly why I stepped away from Lincoln and Genesis!)..
Its a little baffling to me that they'd offer this with a non-hybrid option. In so many other vehicles (Sienna - a vehicle I own) this seems to be a good way to go - by simply negating the non-hybrid they remove a ton of development time and some of the complaints with how it drives would also go away. Others would crop up of course but this is a vehicle that it would make sense to have hybrid-only variants. Since so many things ride on the K TNGA it is... strange... that Toyota of all companies would have these outlier models. also inb4 Lexus minivan. Name it the.. Previa.
Spot on review. I spent month deciding if it's worth the wait or pull the trigger on a 2022 RX350 instead. The updated info center is nice and all but I had serious issue with a 4-Cylinder in a SUV this size. After testing a 2022 NX with the same engine I went ahead and bought a 2022 RX350 F-Sport. The engine is really lacking on a lighter SUV such as the NX. There is no way that it would feel adequate in the RX frame. I'm glad I am not the only one feeling this way about the engine that are being put in these.
Sienna is minivan use same powertrain but bigger size prove it’s not issue at all. Toyota knows 99% people who buying Lexus rx don’t go above 3000rpm 😂
Wait until they put it in the 4Runner. It’s going to be such a slow pig. What people want: 400hp V6 hybrid from Tundra. What Toyota will give consumers: shitty 4 cyl hybrid that can’t get out of its own way. Toyota is my pick for daily driver because of reliability, but they sure do love fucking up choices like this.
@@joeracer302 toyota don’t actually care people who want v6 or more, and current sienna waiting list 12month in USA . Toyota don’t give a fuk cuz they can sell it
Long time Lexus/Toyota owner I’m just shocked how lazy Toyota is lately. The 3.5V6 is legendary,no current owner in their right mind would give that up for a turbo four. I don’t understand this is the motor being put in all new vehicles. Lexus is a premium brand you still have other manufacturers using V6’s Toyota is being very lazy and not developing a more premium engine.if this is the future of Lexus I may look elsewhere.
A $55K luxury SUV with a four cylinder that sounds like a four cylinder. A lot of people in my circle come to me for car advice because I am an automotive engineer. A good friend was about to buy a new RX350. I told him, if he was smart, buy the 2022 model with normally aspirated V6 which is one of the best V6's ever produced for decent power, long term reliability and durability and NVH. He bought a 2022 and couldn't be happier. Kind of a jump ball if the new RX350 is any better from a styling perspective compared to outgoing model. New RX is more conservative and depends on your preference...kind of like the new Honda Civic. Also, a side note, anybody who buys a Hybrid is a sucker. PS. a laughable slip was Mark kept calling the new RX the NX which has the same crappy, rattly 4 cyl. No surprise.
As nice as this car is, I simply cannot justify myself on dropping 60k on a luxury vehicle with a turbo 4 under the hood. Not that I can afford this car anyway
I went Mazda this time simply for this reason. My ONLY complaint about Mazda is the same one I have about this Lexus... Turbo 4 with crappy mpg. They fix that and it's gold.
@@nineradvocate At least they are not pretending that they are something they are not. Their interiors feel just as good and you are not overpaying for it.
can’t say when the camera upgrades happened exactly, but i’ve been noticing it and god is it welcome. good investment Sirs, good production quality & excellent content as always, hope you’re having a nice day
I miss the V6, but we have a 22 NX350 and I though the engine was fairly refined if not invigorating. It certainly felt more isolated from the cabin than my 16 RX350's V6 bc it vibrates a little much at idle.
You guys are right. I love the quietness (Sound proofing) but this car has been a very ordinary experience after so much of hype. A rattley 4 cylinder will always feel like a 4 cylinder as far as driving impressions are concerned, then to add insult to injury the fuel efficiency is nothing impressive. Overall, this is a disappointment.
From my understanding, this car has a built in turbo with a 4 cylinder engine. So the turbo should make the car drive like a 6 cylinder car with the false sense that the car isn't really a 4 cylinder. In respect to your comment, cars with turbo is just how it is made because of the emission standards.
Lexus has reached the pinnacle of brand cachet when it's able to pass off cheap platforms and parts/materials to buyers who believe reliability and tried & true justify the price it charges
As a Lexus owner, and an owner of an IS 350 with the same 2GR-FKS V-6 that was recently removed from the RX lineup, it pains me to hear that the new I-4 turbo is not a worthy replacement. It's more than possible to make a smooth and refined four-cylinder - look at what BMW and Audi/VW have been doing for years. My wife has a 330i, and though it's got a _four-popper_, I don't feel like I'm driving some cheap rental car when I drive it. It's got no more vibration at idle than my IS 350 does. Considering the T24A-FTS is newer than the B48, you would think maybe Lexus have applied the latest tech to make it smooth. That they haven't is disappointing. Having said that, I am sure that, based on how well the relatively-unrefined last-gen NX sold, Lexus will have no issues selling thousands of these a month.
About 10/15 years ago luxury brands use to sell luxury features. Nowadays luxury brands sells luxury badge. The new 22Nx base model don't even comes with a petty sunroof and get 4 cylinder rav4 engine after spending nearly 41k. No wonder why kia, Hyundai and mazda are shining.
This car makes no sense with this engine when you can get a Mazda CX-9 with all the same equipment for ~$10k less. Yes the CX-9 is aged, but it does everything this thing does with a premium interior and more engaging to drive for less money. Like the CX-9, this thing badly needs hybrid drivetrains - both performance and fuel economy versions.
Totally agree with your conclusion. We got a 2022 NX hybrid and after driving it for 6 months I have also concluded that Lexus is not a luxury brand anymore. Sure the hybrid system works great and MPG is amazing but the material used for in and out of the vehicle is same as (if not worse than)Toyota RAV4. I realized it first when took the car to an automatic carwash when everything was moving once the blower started drying the car. The doors are and sound hollow. The interior has already started rattling although this might be because of the first year production and Lexus hasn’t perfected the production line yet (at least in Canada plant). I am coming from a 2018 Audi Q3 and I well know the definition of interior quality from that car and our NX is far behind in that regard. I haven’t seen or driven the new RX yet but on the price alone I think there are better options out there.
Remember ,this is just your opinion and experience with the car ,I know a few people who owns audi or bmw and they say it is trash ,yeah ,it drive damn good but till the time the need to repair it ,and it happens very often...the same with interior materials, audi is a plastic car,bmw better ,but still messy brand...I would not ever buy bmw. And about mercedes ,is I think tje best of them ,my parents have e220 2018 ,interior creaks,not much but for a PREMIUM is a joke...😅 Honestly ,I am messing around ,what ever anyone want to buy now ,must be naive he gets ,reliable car...mercedes, bmw,audi,lexus,does not matter ,same pseudo premium cars with dozens of unnecessary screens and technology...for we have to pay ,instead making a really reliable cars.
I mean, 4-cylinders have replaced 6-cyls in luxury brands here in Europe years ago, so it’s not shocking at all. So is the fact that the base engine is not refined enough, encouraging to go for higher grade. That is kinda smart for Lexus to do and encourage more fuel efficient and environment-concious hybrid.
The hatch height can easily be changed all you do is press and hold for 60 secs and it will allow you to pull the hatch down to you desired finishing height, then press and hold again and boom that’s now your new finish height setting. ☺️
It's not 60 seconds. It's "a few seconds" at worst. It'll beep once you've held it long enough. Also not sure what you mean about "pull it down", you press the button to stop the hatch movement at the desired height. Just... look it up. Lexus has UA-cam videos demonstrating this.
To all the people who say this is just a Toyota here's some food for thought the Lamborghini Urus rides on a Volkswagen Touareg platform but no one mentions that also Ferrari uses Fiat components Audi's are basically Volkswagen's the Porsche 911 started out as a Beetle The Bugatti Veyron uses a key and mirror switch from a Passat Maseratis uses Dodge infotainment screens and other components people love to point out parts and platform sharing from Japanese brands but never mention the European brands who also do
Wrong on all of them The Touareg is not an economy car that costs less than 30k. The Touareg has Audi and Porsche drivetrains and a RWD based AWD system
@@naveenthemachine if that makes you feel better about it you can believe that the facts don't lie I already debunked everything you said all car manufacturers do it you already admitted to being a self described Toyota hater now your bias is showing
How do all the sound deadening panels under the car affect rust and corrosion? Do the panels actually help block salt and water, or do they make them worse by trapping moisture? I'm not in the market for this vehicle, but live in the Rust Belt and am seeing more and more of these panels underneath new cars...not going to be fun to do work under the car after 10 midwest winters if you have to remove a bunch of panels.
@@dragospahontu To me it looked perfect before. Now it’s just a generic big touchscreen tablet fridge on wheels. Sure it looks pretty good, but I think the previous gen had a way more special interior and drivetrain in the 350 without the cvt and the 2 real exhausts
Another nice review. This car is meant not to offend anyone. It's a simple car for someone who don't want to think about what they drive or own. It's the perfect car for the laptop, suburban crowd..
@@naveenthemachine maybe but when's the last time people actually devoted compliments to any of those cars? they're like the Sam's Club of the car industry
I have worked in high-end dealerships and been around, researched and owned many cars from Hondas to Chrysler, Ford, Mercades E.S, BMW (enjoyed the 3 series love the 7) Acura (one of my favs) Toyota/Lexus, and if I had to choose one single car it would be the Lexus LSh for its exceptionally beautiful design, power and reliability and I absolutely love the new RX (Which I have owned 4 hybrids). Since I discovered Lexus, I have bought but never kept any other brand. I tend to delve a bit deeper than most when I spend my money and Toyota/Lexus is among the few car companies actually making a committed and concerted effort in environmental and sustainable products. With true tested and proven reliability there is less waste while still providing a high level of sustainable quality and luxury. And with their new sharable platform across models and future commitment to electrification they are moving in the right direction. They were after all, the first to implement an electric/hybrid powertrain that others are now emulating. This new RX has something for everyone without more than you need in each version. Comfort, efficiency, utility, performance, value, and sustainable luxury materials which is the only true form. Mercedes, Cadillac, Audi will soon begin to put screens on their ceilings to raise the imaginary bar because 'bling' is all they do consistently well. And the Hyundai (GV), that doesn't even have a dealership network, feel that they have to jump on the bandwagon. At the end of the day, something has got to give don't ya think? If the current semi-conductor shortage and its huge impact on production is anything to go by, we're all in for a rude wakeup call. Let's not engage in the gluttony and draining of resources at the cost of their environmental impact. With current rules and laws no one actually needs a vehicle scooting from zero to 60 in 3 seconds! That is irresponsible and downright stupid. What you may call "average luxury" is what the folks who are ACTUALLY spending their own cash call, just right.
Lexus has really dropped the ball with the RX. Oh it will sell to their client base who have grown accustom to accepting compromise. Other manufacturers see the premium brand differently than just a nice living room on wheels and focus additionally on dynamics and performance. Thankfully.
@@iana36s "Lexus has dropped the ball but oh it will sell"?. The hundreds of thousands of people who can afford any vehicle in the category but choose to go with the RX are all compromising? Man, go get yourself a life and stop being obtuse!
I have known quite a few people who have owned BMW, Audi and Volvo. Cost of ownership is through the roof. Engine light ,trouble codes, costly repairs ........no thanks.
My 75 old mom has a 2020 RX350 and I talked to her about the new RX350 and I said it has a turbo 4cyl now, she told me she's not trading in her v6 for no 4cyl
@@tinhinnh my thinking is if I am going to get low 20s mpg anyway, I’d want the NA V6. The turbo 4 only getting a few mpg better is not good enough. This engine seems not good enough to replace the v6 and also not good enough to sway me from a hybrid that can get 30+ mpg. It’s stuck in the middle.
If Toyota wants cars like to LC and LS to sell, it has to make cars like the RX, NX, Camry and Corolla to feel premium. Toyota’s cars are subpar relative to competition all around.
What is Luxury is a good question. Modern cars have been getting better and better in terms of comfort and refinement for the price point on a lot of cars. I think back to my month with a Kia K5 and how pleasant it was for a mass market midsizer. I’d wonder if that’s made the ceiling for luxury cars harder to reach as they still try to maintain an area of profitability. The RX is Lexus’s bread maker. A car that appeals enough to enough to pay the bills. Its allowed for the toys, but they never gave these the full Lexus treatment. You wouldn’t think this car is in any way related to the same company that made the LC 500. Maybe its to be cost prohibitive as Toyota always has been, been this car could use more identity at some point.
To me luxury is styling a smooth powertrain especially a naturally aspirated v6, a style forward interior design with retaining all physical controls, smooth ride and great handling, good space, tech that is gimmick free even if the infotainment may be dated but it’s modern enough as long as CarPlay, android auto and built in navigation are there
Hell, I feel like a base Civic has more luxury than a lot of luxury cars. Maybe it could be a little more quiet, but I don't even have a problem with the powertrain. You're right, it must be really hard to find ways to make luxury cars above that now
Sent my wife to look at the 2022 model - she absolutely hated it, more than any comparable in the segment. Said it's an "old people's car". (And we are in our 40s.) Doubt the updates will change her mind.
It’s worse fuel economy than the now killed off 3.5L Highlander…I’ve gotten 30-31mpg on the highway on 300-400 mile road trips calculating manually in a 2021 Highlander XLE AWD with the 3.5L. Now around town, we only get 20-22mpg, but that’s still respectable in a 4500lb AWD SUV.
You’re the only one preaching the truth. Every other “reviewer” just describes the car. You’re the only one actually reviewing the car.
I’m the one who predicted the RX would be a catastrophe to begin with
You all chose to laugh at me the internets biggest Toyota hater even though I also own a Toyota
@@naveenthemachine who even are you? Nobody knows about you.
they only describe the car because they're too chickenshit, they'd lose their press allocations. Or they're reviewing units from car dealers hoping to get noticed by corporate
@@naveenthemachine I don't think the hybrid versions are bad, but only because Toyota hybrids are almost always good drivetrains. This one, however, kind of sucks. I really don't see why anyone wouldn't pay a little more and get the hybrid, when the gas savings would pay for the difference in a few years.
@@naveenthemachine Hey! I've seen your comments over on the Kirk Kriefels channel. It's hilarious to see those Lexus/Toyota fan boys get so angry. Keep up the comments!
Thx for the honest review. Just as I suspected. I'm hanging onto my previous version (Gen 4) RX350 with the N/A V6. Mine's got the Luxury Package & is paid off.
Met both of you today at autobahn. My friends and I were thrilled. You guys do a great job -so knowledgeable and so right on. Thank you!
Appreciate you guys being able to re-evaluate your initial impression... So few journalists/reviewers have that integrity. Seems to me this is really just a Rav4 with better sound deadening, fancier door cards, and a nightmare technology experience.
How dare you?!? You’re going offend all the Lexus fanboys lol.
That's 90% of Lexus models right there... Turded-up Toyota.
@@gogeorgia707 the RX rides on the same platform as a rav4 Camry nx venza
Rx’s Toyota equivalent is the Highlander
RAV 4 ? LMFAO! BRUH! a RAV 4 is still a RAV 4... it's far from ANY Lexus Experience lol! SHEESH! you won't CONFUSE a RAV 4 Prime with a Lexus 500h F sport Performance
So glad I bought a new 2022 luxury, smooth, V6 AWD , regular gas this past January. Have put 14,000 plus miles on it and just finished a 5500 mi. trip, great ride.
Not smooth. legendary V6.
Glad I got my 22 F Sport. Smooth and powerful V6.
I have a 22 450h, I'm glad I made that decision!
Price of all used v6's going up as we speak!
I thought this 4 cylinder was going to be cheaper than the out going one with the more expensive engine and the stronger parts that support that bigger engine.
Is it rugged enough to handle the curb at the Starbucks drive-thru? I need more unpainted plastic cladding!
Lmao 😂
There’s no painted cladding
This is a serious question that needs an answer. I am a habitual curb jumper. It's either this or a Jeep.
@@WhitleyGilbert1003 this has 21” wheels beats a Jeep any day and reliable as jeeps are not
Toyota should've found a way for the V6 to meet the new upcoming emissions standards.
I'm sure it could've, but they probably were focusing more on fuel economy instead. It really is a shame as someone with a 2gr vehicle
@@quarthmeat1884 my Toyota has the FKS engine
The driving experience with the v6 is amazing
You can get a well equipped x5 45e phev with the straight 6 B58 with better milage, more faster, more refined, better trans for 65k after the 7500 federal tax credit. This Lexus doesn't cut it.
@@pnourani bmw better for right now but lets see how the prie/value and overall reliability changes down the road.
@@naveenthemachine IS 350 owner here. The engine was a big factor in my decision to purchase the car. I've driven a couple RXes, and it was very smooth and suited them well. Then in my IS it has a slightly different character. Truly a well-made engine.
I love the fact that you take ypur knowledge of high performance driving cars and bring it to normal if not boring-on-purpose cars! Kudos to you!
You can adjust the height of the trunk by pressing the open/close button for 3 seconds after setting the trunk height to desired. Thank you for the awesome video.
As excellent as savagegeese reviews are, they've collectively killed my interest in new cars and left me disillusioned in my search for something that's both great and less than $60k.
so what did you find since?
well stop looking at suvs then
I’m telling you I did a review of a Nissan 2023 Rogue and this suv and Nissan has more features for less the price
Miata.
audi a4 allroad check all the boxes. Huge discounts at dealers these days too
Why is this vehicle still called a RX350? Shouldn't it now be called a RX240?
Ouch 🤕
this is actually a good example of how important it is to get the electronics right! in most cases funny enough it only shows after the warranty is off...
Yup. Toyota's safety suite has had all the irritating and meaningless beeping for years now. It's ridiculous if the driver can't even tell what's wrong. They badly need to get that sorted out, as it gives a terrible impression.
@@markmiller3279 I have had seven Lexus products and though they will alert you in situations that actually prevents a crash, none seemed hyper-active or too intrusive so your statement "Toyota's safety suite has had all the irritating and meaningless beeping for years now" is false and misleading. Additionally, most can be disabled by the driver.
Nissan has more features for less the price I kid you not
@@TravelBreakthroughand a drive train that wont live to see its first 150k miles
that happened with my test drive of the GX Lexus today and we could not figure out how to stop it! The mechanic said the stupid sensor on back seat was causing it!@@markmiller3279
The old V6 used regular gas. The turbo 4 requires premium fuel. So the extra 2mpg of the 4 cylinder turbo is negated by the added fuel cost. Why bother. The hybrid NX350h will run regular (premium recommended not required). The hybrid is the way to go here.
Does that mean the new gen Highlander with the same 2.4T engine will also require the premium fuel?
Seems like putting the bulletproof 3.5 V6 back in it would make it about perfect. To bad that’ll never happen tho.
Not just that. Make it RWD and even more luxurious and even more performance oriented. Then it’s perfect
Thank the EPA!!!!
@@naveenthemachine LC500 for you, rx is not designed for that, it is clear that RX or rather all Lexus cars (including LC500) are intended for those who are calm in driving, relaxed, durable machines and the brand has also been guaranteed, that's their philosophy since the 90s until now. The point is, don't expect too much, want more, have more performance, etc., because that is the same as wanting Elon Musk to make ICE cars to compete with Toyota, GM motors may be VW grub, it's not that Elon Musk can't do that but it's against his philosophy
Its a shame what is going on!!
@@lightshunshine3861 the RX is nothing more than a Toyota Highlander with lipgloss. Why wouldn’t you just save the cash and get a Highlander instead? The RX has zero luxury
Watching and listening to the road test of the 2023 Lexus RX350 (with a turbo I4) reminded me of my 2018 Mazda CX5 (n/a 2.5L I4) which I traded in for a 2022 Lexus RX350 with its V6. I love the smooth power and sound of my Lexus V6, reminded me of the V6 power in my older 2007 Nissan Murano. I hope Lexus brings back a V6 to the RX350 if government regulations don't prevent that.
I agree. I'm renting the 2022 rx350 and have a 2010 v6 rav4. That 3.5 liter engine is going to be a historic one along with the LS and 2JZ.
The thing about government regulations is that they very very rarely get better, but often get worse.
Get over it, everyone is going to more torque less cylinders less pollution engines… Lexus is not alone, Mercedes, BMW, Audi all converted years ago, so quit your whiny nonsense 😢… go buy some outdated American POS if you want a gas guzzler.
I'm relieved that someone realizes the infotainment display is large for the sake of being large. Seems like there was zero effort into designing a unique cabin
That's not even a large display. The Mercedes and Cadillac have much much larger displays 30 even 50 in. All things being equal the buyers wanted larger displays and the oem responded
I don't get how they can complain about the engine noise and at the same time say it's super quiet and so quiet it almost put them to sleep.
You can turn the brightest of the screen down for night or set for night driving. The turbo engine with the new transmission is incredible and the car is so quiet and smooth. I can't see these guys driving a luxury vehicle and that is perfectly okay.
this is fascinating because this Lexus RX 350 makes the Acura MDX look like it has a usable interior
This luxury SUV is more so for people that do not want loud luxury SUVs that they'll have to spend a fortune on in maintenance.
Every time I think of selling my 3UZ V8 Lexus GS, I'm reminded by videos like these that engines like the 3UZ will never exist again. I'm keeping that car.
This is why I love this channel. You guys have the balls to tell the true every time.
I tell the harsh truth about Toyota Lexus yet you all choose to laugh and mock me for hating on and owning a Toyota
@@naveenthemachine I think Toyota, as a whole, is too conservative in their designs. They seem to rely more on on their brand, and reliability history to sell cars, than in cutting age stuff.
They are the Glock of the car industry.
You get the impression Lexus CAN make these cars really special but just doesn't. I can't figure out what it is that's holding them back. Cost? Just conservatism? Is trying to carry over as much as possible from the rav what's holding it back? I don't mind the styling but this car's competitors are more compelling in a few dimensions.
Lexus is reluctant to add cost to a dying ICE platform
@@dredilla-iceman and they’re reluctant to make electric cars
Platforms are whats hold them back, while every other premium car manufacturer has bespoke rwd platforms, Lexus shares theirs with Toyota.
@@bryansmith1411 After watching this it really demonstrates how much more appealing a Model Y has become!
@igr
The culprit is Akio Toyoda (CEO & President of Toyota Motor Company)
As someone who lives north suburbs of toronto, with a big chinese population, these rx350's are everywhere. Hearing you guys describe it as ultra quiet and sleeper mode means it is the perfect car for the folks that i see day in day out driving these. This is going to be a massive seller forsure at least in my area
Live in an area with a big chinese population aswell. Every other car you see is a white rx350.
Yes, they're very popular with older Chinese drivers in San Francisco, too. That demographic buys Asian consistently. A German car is considered too showy and unreliable. Quite a few Acuras out in those neighborhoods, too.
Washington state as well, it’s high class Asian car, and they go with speed limit.
Exactly
I live in toronto and for me I associate the car with middle aged white women who have NO idea what a turn signal is, who park on the sidewalk and wait for a light with half the fucking car in the intersection already.
If you think comfortable car is a bad thing you will love this reviewer.
This era in car industry will be known as an “giant grille” era. Kinda like tail fin era
My theory is that they're doing this like end panic because of electric cars not needing grills, so they overshot the mark. And maybe they think it looks more luxurious and impressive. Maybe they were just damn bored and out of ideas. - In any case, it is an expression of imbalance.
You guys have totally the wrong idea of the RX, it’s a reliable and luxury long distance cruiser. Not a sports car.. and turn the safety settings down to avoid the beeps.
About time you reviewed another mid-range SUV. Windowsills so high, reminds me of the reborn Camaro.
Look at back window visibility. You are right.
Personally I like the look of thin window height, Camaro style, and realistically, with all cars now getting up so high (all SUV and tall EV Hatchback) you will still see out of this window
The 2022 with the V6 is going to be more sought after used/new than this. This turbocharged 4 cyl is going to make a lot of Lexus service departments very rich :-)
I doubt it. Toyota fours have been quite reliable. It may not be smooth, but that doesn't mean it will break.
🎯 Bingo!
@@markmiller3279 Their naturally aspirated 4s are reliable. You can't tell me this new boosted 4 cylinder will ever be as reliable as the old V6.
@@markmiller3279 The engine maybe , but not that turbo,it will not lost has long has that engine hence you will have to dig deeper into your pocket to maintain this Vehicle
Don't underestimate Japenese (especially Toyota) engineering. They under-engineer on purpose to avoid components breaking in the long run@@little123456788
A few items you mentioned as flaws are actually not. The rear lift back opening height can be custom set with a three-second touch of the button. The inattentive driver beeping can be turned off in settings. There is a shortcut menu in the touchscreen for frequently accessed, it's right next to the climate button. And the items you're missing in the gauge cluster that got "moved" to the HUD are all still available in the gauge cluster, you just have to set them in preferences.
@EBone12355 I am in similar thought process as you. The majority of people who buy this do not care too much about the 4 banger. They just want something that is reliable (which Lexus has in spades), quiet, and comfortable. Like the video says, they are car enthusiasts, and a lot of auto journalists basically complain about the same things. I am pretty sure a multi billion dollar company has done enough market research to realize who their audiences are and what those customers want.
Love this type of an objective and factual review without the fake praises. Either get the hybrid RX or just get the MDX or the X5.
Or Genesis V6
@@barbecuetechtips6024 that too
Or save and get a Santa Fe or Kia telluride or Hyundai palisade
Literally every other option is better than the Lexus
@@drivescene6747 agreed 100%
That was the case before the RX was even unveiled. Still the case before anyones driven it
Sure enough still the case after driving it
All I can say to you all is I the internets biggest Toyota hater told you so
Yes, pretty much all of them are better. Even four-cylinder ones don't have the coarseness of this engine.
I have a 2017 RX350 and, after looking at the new model, I will be keeping my 2017 for years to come. The new infotainment is arguably worse than the old one in terms of hassle and lack of hard buttons. They also did not add a torque vectoring rear diff, which I would have expected at a minimum since they've had it in the RAV4 and Highlander for a few years already. Very disappointing, and it means the Highlander has a better drivetrain in addition to more space. The front end is also ugly as sin. I'd rather have the overstated grill on the 2017 than the weird hood bulge which wraps around the top of the grill on the new model. My only gripe with the 2017 is the 8-speed transmission. I wish they had kept the old 6-speed which is much smoother.
But there’s no Apple CarPlay or touchscreen. Isn’t it irritating having to input addresses if you go on a trip?
@@mervinprone I couldn't care less about Apple CarPlay. The lack of touch screen is something I initially thought would bother me, but actually the mouse thing that everyone likes to hate is really not that bad. It's better than stretching my arm to reach and touch the screen, so it actually makes using the interface pretty convenient. I only wish it had a faster response time.
@@mervinprone I have a 2017 as well, and yes, it does bother me, but 99% i already know where i'm going, so not huge. It is for sure the biggest problem of the old car and it is on 3G so all the techy stuff is going away in a couple weeks. I think this means a lot of 2017 and older RX owners may start looking for a replacement, after being burned by this, and the complete lack of empathy from Lexus...........it's going to hurt them.
@@doctormosfet and also keeps your screen clean too!
Have you ever attempted to get a computer reset done on your transmission in your 2017RX?
24.5 mpg is a slap in the face for a 4 cyl. A twin turbo V6 from Lexus gets 21.5 combined, and at least it has some performance numbers.
My 2018 camry le gets 30+ mpg around town & 40+ on the highway. Of course the camry is lighter than the lexus rx.
That HUD controls would drive me crazy. There isn't much I like about it except that it is a "Lexus". I think my daughters Mazda CX5 is better and much cheaper.
It looks like the controls of a crappy LCD monitor
Thats the beauty, Mazda doesnt carry the burden like Toyota/Lexus does, they have all the freedom to make nice quality cars for the right amount of price. While on the other hand Toyota is beeing fucked on both sides. It cannot use super nice materials and build quality cause thats reserved for Lexus only, while at the same time its loosing its status bang per buck to KIA/Hyundai products. While Lexus cannot compete to a true Luxury manufacturers like Germans, Volvo and Genesis cause it shares their platforms and drivetrains with Toyota.
Man i knew it we gonna miss that smooth V6
Love the review. He puts it very eloquently and straightforward. Always look forward to your reviews.
I've always been a huge Lexus fan, but after watching years of Savagegeese videos, I just wouldn't be able to justify paying this much for a vehicle with stamped steel control arms.
Japanese luxury has always been 1.5 generations behind whether its the chassis or the engine. Aluminum control arms will probably make it in 2028 or so. That said, the material of the lower arm is probably the last thing that our parents/grandparents care about when they look to buy this car lol
Yeah but, they engineer that 'stamped steel' better than anyone else in the automotive business. 🤷🏾♂️
Go buy a $70k 4 cylinder Grand Cherokee then. Get some sweet aluminum control arms and tell all your friends how it’s better than a Lexus. Weirdo.
@@ak2112 You’ve proven the point which is that the rest of the industry is improving. The RX has gotten progressively less refined and thus a worse value in the process. I can’t believe you’re making me defend Jeep 🤦🏻♂️
@@CJL36 yup thats how far lexus has fallen behind. Their peak was 2008 or so
I rode in one and had similar thoughts... It was great, quiet, comfortable... But so is almost everything else. Once upon a time, that "L" on the front made you feel like you were making "the smart" luxury buy. Now it just feels like your taking an "L".
I bought my dad’s 15 Highlander V6 when he upgraded to a 20 Highlander XLE Hybrid a couple years ago. I’ve been very impressed with both. I love the V6 and lack of safety electronics. It can’t beep at you for every little thing. The hybrid fuel economy is ridiculous, easily over the 35 mpg est. figure all the time. The V6 gets 23 during recent 2000 mile road trip. The softex seats have been great in our RAV4 we had for over 7 years, and age great in the Hybrid. I can’t see why you would buy the Lexus over the Highlander anymore.
This is the best selling mid size SUV. Lexus is the first to introduce a crossover and this new generation is simply the best. If you love tech and gadgets, this car is for you. Awesome vehicle.
This decade is clearly about transitioning everything to full electric. You can see manufacturers skimping and cutting so many corners on new or refreshed products, which just means they are putting resources into electric architecture and technology research. Aside from boutique manufacturers, the age of the ICE engine is coming to a near end.
I've worked for Lexus for 10 years as a service advisor. Sadly over the years I've had to watch our "premium" customer service slowly diminish closer to that of a Toyota dealership. We went from offices to build personal relationships with our clients to working in a fish bowl and herding
or guests threw like cattle. Just like this RX not feeling premium enough the same is happening to our dealership experience taking a massive dive. Soon enough Lexus will be just another Acura or Hyundai product.
So much for Lexus customer experience
Did you notice other dealerships following suit too?
Lexus is an overpriced Toyota 😄
Lexus has always been a overpriced Toyota 🤣
never thought of Lexus as a Acura, but, at least for me, maybe cause I was born in the 80's , Acura has never been " premium " enough. Hyundai, with the Genesis, well, at least on UA-cam reviews, it looks different
@@kwhite145 unless you're buying one of the top 3 models over $100k, The sub-100k Lexus are such a rip off lol Just buy a Toyota.
I'm glad you pointed it out -- alert fatigue is real on products like this
Brilliant. Just the perfect amount of snark and humor as well as technical nuance. Have owned Lexus and Toyota. Hated the rear hatch speed and the horrible historical menus from Lexus clearly demonstrated the design and ergonomic folks hate each other. The move to touch screen has helped and finally the lawyers said it was ok to speed up the rear hatch speeds.
Totally agree. The only reason anyone would buy it now is they are expecting reliability and that may be questionable since it is an under powered straining engine that might not hold up very well. Everyone is commenting it is related to emissions, well they are using the V6 in the larger SUV and Trucks. So I question if this is why they chose this path to the straining 4 cylinder, they should have made it an option to get the V6. Also, what is the difference in the RX and the NX except the NX is smaller but the same powertrain. I am a Lexus fan and drive the current design with the V6 but I am disappointed.
Unless I am mistaken, those larger SUVS and trucks used to mostly have V8s, and they cost much more. I just assumed turbocharged V6 is the new V8.
@@blackcaesar8387 And, in the US, they are held to different emissions standards as far as I know!
I didn't read the comment because I was distracted by your username.
Four cylinders love to work hard.
The profit margins Toyota gets on this kind of product must be off the charts.
The rear hatch height has to be adjustable, even the CX5 has that feature... Good review!
It is.
Can do it through main screen software or clicking the hatch button to stop it at the height you want and then holding it down for a few seconds I believe.
Why you so short Nick
The previous version is the best looking RX ever. The controversial grill and sharp edges were all perfect 10/10. Especially the 2016 model. Subsequent updates messed up the design a little bit but it still remained a great design. This new version is not bad. Infact, I like it but I loved the sharp edges a lot more. I would be happier if they go back to something close to the 2016 model.
I agree, I currently have a 2013 X5 and when it wears out ill probably go for a clean low mileage 4th gen RX350 in ruby red with the black interior. I just sold a 2014 ES300H with the ruby red paint job and already kinda miss it. 😅
Don’t cluster everyone into your opinion that the previous version was “the best looking ever”. The best looking to YOU not everyone else. Lexus did not “mess up” subsequent updates. The 23 update is the best TO ME.
Sorry. That ugly floating pillar design kills what would be a decent looking CUV. I think the 2 steps older generation is the sweet spot in terms of exterior design (AL10 platform).
Remember the time when car reviewers would wear a suit to review a Lexus? Boy, how times have changed!
You guys need to drive the vehicle more before making reviews. 1 button is touched to get to driving modes. The HUD is amazing and is bright and adjustable if needed. I can't imaging driving without it now. Very easy to use and you dont have to be looking down for buttons. For beeping alerts I don't know what your talking about, it hardly beeps when I drive and I have them all activated. Sounds like your exaggerating a bit. One thing I did find was engine noise is a little louder with the 4 cyl. The 4 cyl has more power than the 6, plus less on gas so I'd rather deal with a little extra noise.
Thank you for being honest. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who absolutely hate small displacement 4-banger turbo engine. There is more to an engine than just torque and horsepower numbers on paper. And don't get me started on that grill.
I've always thought a Lexus felt generic in some way, I mean they're high quality and durable, and hopefully reliable with the new engine. But like you said it doesn't feel special like a premium or luxury car should. Also I'm so glad you've touch on the 50-70k 4 cylinders, why do they think that is luxury. When I hear luxury I do not think of a 4 cylinder, especially when it overall performance isn't better than an out going V6. I'd much rather own an MDX, X5, or GLE450 than this, but most will lease it and think they're supreme over everyone.
I think so..
The only Lexus cars that are worth your time and money are LC and LS, everything else is upscaled Toyotas.
@@denirebic5769 don’t forget the IS. It’s not a tarted up corolla. It’s bespoke too
@@naveenthemachine i know and its great car for that matter, but as an premium car manufacturer you cannot have mayority of your cars based on lower end vehicles (Toyotas).
@@denirebic5769 well GM is doing that too. So basically Lexus is pulling a GM move
I own a 2023 RX350 and I disagree with most of your unfairly negative opinions. This is a superb car, and I feel no "generic luxury" as you say so! The HUD is great and the car accelerates very smoothly and without any "rattling noise" that you claim in your review, and the new technologies are just useful and easy to use.
I owned BMW X3 for years, and test drove X5, Acura MDX, and couple of other cars. For me Lexus RX350 was a no brainer and it was the best $65K ever spent in my life (got the Luxury trim). After 4.5 months and 2800 miles, I love this car more and more every time that I drive it or look at it.
Thank you for this! I have my heart set on a 2024 RX350h Luxury, and I am about to pull the trigger. I test drove a couple of weeks ago and the ML sound system blew me away. My first new car in 18 years and my 60th birthday present. 😃
I have the RX450h+ and after 10k miles - I come to appreciate it more day by day. I‘ve done 2500 miles in EV mode only and of the rest, about 30% was regen.
@@roachmojo old people's opinions on cars should be disregarded tbh
If anyone is interested in getting the F-sport trim I urge you to spend at least 20 minutes sitting in the seat. I think the new F-Sport heavily bolstered seats dont fit everyone. I don't consider myself fat at all and I think the bottom bolsters are seriously way too aggressive and my bottom gets sore sitting in this car past 1 hour.
What I love about Lexus is that they take an easy to work on and reliable platform and make a luxury product as good as Mercedes or Jaguar.
This isn’t a luxury product. Idk what you’re smoking but this is no luxury product. It’s at best a Toyota+
also the RX rides on the Camrys platform
luxury is not only price. let me tell you, being able to sit 5 hours in a car and getting out of it without feeling like you've been through a meatgrinder is definitely a luxury@@naveenthemachine
It lives longer, it runs smoother, it cost lesser, it has better design, everything you ever need is in this Lexus.
It can fxcking run faster than your car ever will. @@naveenthemachine
@@naveenthemachinedo you realize the Lamborghini Urus rides on a Volkswagen Touareg platform but it sure is funny how you don't know or mention that also Ferrari uses Fiat components Audi's are basically Volkswagen's the Porsche 911 started out as a Beetle The Bugatti Veyron uses a key and mirror switch from a Passat Maseratis uses Dodge infotainment screens and other components
@@theroyalcrown9165 the Touareg is not an economy car. It’s VW’s flagship suv with Audi powertrains, Porsche powertrains, RWD based AWD system, v10 engines, etc. you’re not gonna find any of these in a Jetta or golf or Passat
Hence why the Touareg is differentiated from lesser VW’s.
The added conversation during the last bit of the driving portion is very fair. This isn't a Highlander (price wise), you expect more. An eco-4cyl doesn't provide a luxury experience.
Lexus should keep the V6 for the US market.
Thank you for not being biased of bought by Lexus/ Toyota like some other reviewers.
They are saying thr RX doesn’t do anything better than it’s rivals and it fails to be competitive
Also it took me 1-2 hours to get use to the steering wheel etc! just focus on the drive! the HUD is awesome and the safety systems are not too intrusive! They resolved all the issues with all the pre-production software annoyances with the beeps and the front cross traffic alert! it only beeps if the car is accelerating into an oncoming car! also the auto brake when it senses a car at certain speeds is wonderful! very very smooth! LOVE IT! you don't even have to activate cruise control in order for it to operate. The 8+ months wait for the Rx500h was well well worth it!
Only been subscribed for a few days! But I love this channel! 🔥👍
me too
Some journalists are giving the new front end a lot of negative feedback. Potato, Poh-tah-toh. I prefer it over all previous years. One man's ugly step-sister is another's Cinderella! I think this is the best looking RX yet!
You can set the infotainment screen to NIGHT MODE and the screen isn't bright as it is in day mode. You can also use settings on steering wheel/HUD to get around Infotainment as well as "Hey Lexus". As with all new 'toys', you eventually fall into habitual use, so none of this should be an issue to an Owner. I've watched countless reviews for several manufacturers and seeing HUD with polarized sunglasses has been an issue for all. There is also the ability to adjust hatch height, alerts (less chimes), etc.
As you said, you're car enthusiasts. Of course Lexus is a bore to you. People who buy Lexus are looking for comfort and luxury.. We want to get into our "couch-like" comfortable car, turn up the tunes, and drive. Those who want performance should be watching Porsche reviews.
While I appreciate your POV, I suggest to those seriously interested in an RX (or other vehicle), to join owner groups and get perspective from actual car owners (this is exactly why I stepped away from Lincoln and Genesis!)..
Main reason I got my 2022 ES 350, because I know the V-6 is going away. Naturally aspirated V-6’s are so fun to drive and hear.
I'm trying to get GSF/RCF but it's so hard to find a good deal
At least 2023 ES 350 is still using V6 engine.
Its a little baffling to me that they'd offer this with a non-hybrid option. In so many other vehicles (Sienna - a vehicle I own) this seems to be a good way to go - by simply negating the non-hybrid they remove a ton of development time and some of the complaints with how it drives would also go away. Others would crop up of course but this is a vehicle that it would make sense to have hybrid-only variants. Since so many things ride on the K TNGA it is... strange... that Toyota of all companies would have these outlier models. also inb4 Lexus minivan. Name it the.. Previa.
They already have a Lexus minivan, its called the Lexus LM
Best crossover for under 60 K. There are trade offs at this price, comfort ,quietness, and most of all reliability. GReat car
Spot on review. I spent month deciding if it's worth the wait or pull the trigger on a 2022 RX350 instead. The updated info center is nice and all but I had serious issue with a 4-Cylinder in a SUV this size. After testing a 2022 NX with the same engine I went ahead and bought a 2022 RX350 F-Sport. The engine is really lacking on a lighter SUV such as the NX. There is no way that it would feel adequate in the RX frame. I'm glad I am not the only one feeling this way about the engine that are being put in these.
Sienna is minivan use same powertrain but bigger size prove it’s not issue at all. Toyota knows 99% people who buying Lexus rx don’t go above 3000rpm 😂
Wait until they put it in the 4Runner. It’s going to be such a slow pig. What people want: 400hp V6 hybrid from Tundra. What Toyota will give consumers: shitty 4 cyl hybrid that can’t get out of its own way. Toyota is my pick for daily driver because of reliability, but they sure do love fucking up choices like this.
@@joeracer302 toyota don’t actually care people who want v6 or more, and current sienna waiting list 12month in USA . Toyota don’t give a fuk cuz they can sell it
too cheap to buy the hybrid?
Long time Lexus/Toyota owner I’m just shocked how lazy Toyota is lately. The 3.5V6 is legendary,no current owner in their right mind would give that up for a turbo four. I don’t understand this is the motor being put in all new vehicles. Lexus is a premium brand you still have other manufacturers using V6’s Toyota is being very lazy and not developing a more premium engine.if this is the future of Lexus I may look elsewhere.
Well start looking because every future Lexus will be like this.
Love hearing you guys just have a conversation about the car. Great insight.
A $55K luxury SUV with a four cylinder that sounds like a four cylinder.
A lot of people in my circle come to me for car advice because I am an automotive engineer. A good friend was about to buy a new RX350. I told him, if he was smart, buy the 2022 model with normally aspirated V6 which is one of the best V6's ever produced for decent power, long term reliability and durability and NVH. He bought a 2022 and couldn't be happier.
Kind of a jump ball if the new RX350 is any better from a styling perspective compared to outgoing model. New RX is more conservative and depends on your preference...kind of like the new Honda Civic.
Also, a side note, anybody who buys a Hybrid is a sucker.
PS. a laughable slip was Mark kept calling the new RX the NX which has the same crappy, rattly 4 cyl. No surprise.
"Also, a side note, anybody who buys a Hybrid is a sucker" means you can't repair the hybrid
Get used to it. It’s turbo 4 cylinders then EV’s bud
@@lightshunshine3861 yup, he'll be unemployed very soon
As nice as this car is, I simply cannot justify myself on dropping 60k on a luxury vehicle with a turbo 4 under the hood. Not that I can afford this car anyway
welcome to 2022
@@tinhinnh thanks Biden
Unfortunately that is the future.
@@mmr0221 If you think Biden is the only one to thank, you are giving the President too much credit.
With these Lexus products Mazda starts making way more sense...
I went Mazda this time simply for this reason. My ONLY complaint about Mazda is the same one I have about this Lexus... Turbo 4 with crappy mpg. They fix that and it's gold.
@@nineradvocate At least they are not pretending that they are something they are not. Their interiors feel just as good and you are not overpaying for it.
can’t say when the camera upgrades happened exactly, but i’ve been noticing it and god is it welcome. good investment Sirs, good production quality & excellent content as always, hope you’re having a nice day
Excellent, honest review. Keep up the great work!
I miss the V6, but we have a 22 NX350 and I though the engine was fairly refined if not invigorating. It certainly felt more isolated from the cabin than my 16 RX350's V6 bc it vibrates a little much at idle.
If you push rear hatch button twice it’s sets new height.
You guys are right. I love the quietness (Sound proofing) but this car has been a very ordinary experience after so much of hype. A rattley 4 cylinder will always feel like a 4 cylinder as far as driving impressions are concerned, then to add insult to injury the fuel efficiency is nothing impressive. Overall, this is a disappointment.
After a certain price point a four banger is just inexcusable which might be why Volvo only sells so many XCs
From my understanding, this car has a built in turbo with a 4 cylinder engine. So the turbo should make the car drive like a 6 cylinder car with the false sense that the car isn't really a 4 cylinder. In respect to your comment, cars with turbo is just how it is made because of the emission standards.
After being knocked over by the lightning-quick liftgate, grandma is gonna have a hard time trying to close it, after getting up.
We were looking at this but you have made up our minds..nope..GV70/BMW X5 for sure...Thanks!
Lexus has reached the pinnacle of brand cachet when it's able to pass off cheap platforms and parts/materials to buyers who believe reliability and tried & true justify the price it charges
FYI you can adjust the level of the rear hatch, 5 different heights . Defaults to highest (5).
Love the Honesty Jack. Keep up the extraordinary work.
As a Lexus owner, and an owner of an IS 350 with the same 2GR-FKS V-6 that was recently removed from the RX lineup, it pains me to hear that the new I-4 turbo is not a worthy replacement. It's more than possible to make a smooth and refined four-cylinder - look at what BMW and Audi/VW have been doing for years. My wife has a 330i, and though it's got a _four-popper_, I don't feel like I'm driving some cheap rental car when I drive it. It's got no more vibration at idle than my IS 350 does. Considering the T24A-FTS is newer than the B48, you would think maybe Lexus have applied the latest tech to make it smooth. That they haven't is disappointing. Having said that, I am sure that, based on how well the relatively-unrefined last-gen NX sold, Lexus will have no issues selling thousands of these a month.
About 10/15 years ago luxury brands use to sell luxury features. Nowadays luxury brands sells luxury badge. The new 22Nx base model don't even comes with a petty sunroof and get 4 cylinder rav4 engine after spending nearly 41k. No wonder why kia, Hyundai and mazda are shining.
In a few years mazda Hyundai Kia will put Lexus out of business
This car makes no sense with this engine when you can get a Mazda CX-9 with all the same equipment for ~$10k less. Yes the CX-9 is aged, but it does everything this thing does with a premium interior and more engaging to drive for less money.
Like the CX-9, this thing badly needs hybrid drivetrains - both performance and fuel economy versions.
Totally agree with your conclusion. We got a 2022 NX hybrid and after driving it for 6 months I have also concluded that Lexus is not a luxury brand anymore. Sure the hybrid system works great and MPG is amazing but the material used for in and out of the vehicle is same as (if not worse than)Toyota RAV4. I realized it first when took the car to an automatic carwash when everything was moving once the blower started drying the car. The doors are and sound hollow. The interior has already started rattling although this might be because of the first year production and Lexus hasn’t perfected the production line yet (at least in Canada plant). I am coming from a 2018 Audi Q3 and I well know the definition of interior quality from that car and our NX is far behind in that regard. I haven’t seen or driven the new RX yet but on the price alone I think there are better options out there.
You should dump the nx and get a gv70 or bmw or go back to audi
Remember ,this is just your opinion and experience with the car ,I know a few people who owns audi or bmw and they say it is trash ,yeah ,it drive damn good but till the time the need to repair it ,and it happens very often...the same with interior materials, audi is a plastic car,bmw better ,but still messy brand...I would not ever buy bmw. And about mercedes ,is I think tje best of them ,my parents have e220 2018 ,interior creaks,not much but for a PREMIUM is a joke...😅
Honestly ,I am messing around ,what ever anyone want to buy now ,must be naive he gets ,reliable car...mercedes, bmw,audi,lexus,does not matter ,same pseudo premium cars with dozens of unnecessary screens and technology...for we have to pay ,instead making a really reliable cars.
Lexus maybe more reliable because not many peoples go hard with it, pulse the body is so thin you can push with a finger and panel is flex already.
I mean, 4-cylinders have replaced 6-cyls in luxury brands here in Europe years ago, so it’s not shocking at all. So is the fact that the base engine is not refined enough, encouraging to go for higher grade. That is kinda smart for Lexus to do and encourage more fuel efficient and environment-concious hybrid.
But for the americana it is shocking...soon they also will get used to it😎
The hatch height can easily be changed all you do is press and hold for 60 secs and it will allow you to pull the hatch down to you desired finishing height, then press and hold again and boom that’s now your new finish height setting. ☺️
For 60 seconds?!?
@@Sklounst_Actual That's fucking unreal.... skip
Hold for an entire minute??? Are you serious?
It's not 60 seconds. It's "a few seconds" at worst. It'll beep once you've held it long enough.
Also not sure what you mean about "pull it down", you press the button to stop the hatch movement at the desired height. Just... look it up. Lexus has UA-cam videos demonstrating this.
To all the people who say this is just a Toyota here's some food for thought the Lamborghini Urus rides on a Volkswagen Touareg platform but no one mentions that also Ferrari uses Fiat components Audi's are basically Volkswagen's the Porsche 911 started out as a Beetle The Bugatti Veyron uses a key and mirror switch from a Passat Maseratis uses Dodge infotainment screens and other components people love to point out parts and platform sharing from Japanese brands but never mention the European brands who also do
Wrong on all of them
The Touareg is not an economy car that costs less than 30k. The Touareg has Audi and Porsche drivetrains and a RWD based AWD system
@@naveenthemachine if that makes you feel better about it you can believe that the facts don't lie I already debunked everything you said all car manufacturers do it you already admitted to being a self described Toyota hater now your bias is showing
Deranged Indian kimichi shills sure know a lot about car platform
How do all the sound deadening panels under the car affect rust and corrosion? Do the panels actually help block salt and water, or do they make them worse by trapping moisture? I'm not in the market for this vehicle, but live in the Rust Belt and am seeing more and more of these panels underneath new cars...not going to be fun to do work under the car after 10 midwest winters if you have to remove a bunch of panels.
The first time the under panels are removed they will not be replaced or if replaced will never be secured as they were before 1st removal.
brutal honest reviews love it tbh
Turbowsky’s prediction came true. New model being a 4 popper but keeping the 350 badge. Miss that dude
4 cylinders with a turbo suits this type of car
@@dragospahontu No way it does. Needs a 6 cylinder at least. That’s their opinion in the video too. Plus the interior is shittier than before
@@DanDD1 the interior design is way more cohesive. They just need better ride that's all.
@@dragospahontu To me it looked perfect before. Now it’s just a generic big touchscreen tablet fridge on wheels. Sure it looks pretty good, but I think the previous gen had a way more special interior and drivetrain in the 350 without the cvt and the 2 real exhausts
@@DanDD1 the 3.5l is a good engine, but the 4cyl turbo is not bad at all.
Another nice review. This car is meant not to offend anyone. It's a simple car for someone who don't want to think about what they drive or own. It's the perfect car for the laptop, suburban crowd..
That exact same thing can be said for a Toyota Corolla or rav4 or camry
@@naveenthemachine maybe but when's the last time people actually devoted compliments to any of those cars? they're like the Sam's Club of the car industry
Simple car for simple people... Way to go !
I have worked in high-end dealerships and been around, researched and owned many cars from Hondas to Chrysler, Ford, Mercades E.S, BMW (enjoyed the 3 series love the 7) Acura (one of my favs) Toyota/Lexus, and if I had to choose one single car it would be the Lexus LSh for its exceptionally beautiful design, power and reliability and I absolutely love the new RX (Which I have owned 4 hybrids). Since I discovered Lexus, I have bought but never kept any other brand.
I tend to delve a bit deeper than most when I spend my money and Toyota/Lexus is among the few car companies actually making a committed and concerted effort in environmental and sustainable products. With true tested and proven reliability there is less waste while still providing a high level of sustainable quality and luxury. And with their new sharable platform across models and future commitment to electrification they are moving in the right direction. They were after all, the first to implement an electric/hybrid powertrain that others are now emulating.
This new RX has something for everyone without more than you need in each version. Comfort, efficiency, utility, performance, value, and sustainable luxury materials which is the only true form. Mercedes, Cadillac, Audi will soon begin to put screens on their ceilings to raise the imaginary bar because 'bling' is all they do consistently well. And the Hyundai (GV), that doesn't even have a dealership network, feel that they have to jump on the bandwagon.
At the end of the day, something has got to give don't ya think? If the current semi-conductor shortage and its huge impact on production is anything to go by, we're all in for a rude wakeup call.
Let's not engage in the gluttony and draining of resources at the cost of their environmental impact. With current rules and laws no one actually needs a vehicle scooting from zero to 60 in 3 seconds! That is irresponsible and downright stupid. What you may call "average luxury" is what the folks who are ACTUALLY spending their own cash call, just right.
Lexus has really dropped the ball with the RX. Oh it will sell to their client base who have grown accustom to accepting compromise. Other manufacturers see the premium brand differently than just a nice living room on wheels and focus additionally on dynamics and performance. Thankfully.
@@iana36s "Lexus has dropped the ball but oh it will sell"?. The hundreds of thousands of people who can afford any vehicle in the category but choose to go with the RX are all compromising? Man, go get yourself a life and stop being obtuse!
I have known quite a few people who have owned BMW, Audi and Volvo. Cost of ownership is through the roof. Engine light ,trouble codes, costly repairs ........no thanks.
My 75 old mom has a 2020 RX350 and I talked to her about the new RX350 and I said it has a turbo 4cyl now, she told me she's not trading in her v6 for no 4cyl
You can turn the HUD off and the info all goes back to the gauge cluster which is how the base model also operates as it has no HUD.
Only 24 mpg for a 4 cylinder? That’s a deal breaker.
not reg 4cyl, turbo 4, its supposed to replace the 6 which everybody is doing
@@tinhinnh yes thanks. That's what I meant. Still pretty bad.
It's a lot of weight and poor aerodynamic characteristics. There is only so much that can be done.
@@dzeng well it has over 300 ft lb of torque and gets 24 mpg which comparable to the 6, so if thats”bad” then all the other suvs are bad too
@@tinhinnh my thinking is if I am going to get low 20s mpg anyway, I’d want the NA V6. The turbo 4 only getting a few mpg better is not good enough. This engine seems not good enough to replace the v6 and also not good enough to sway me from a hybrid that can get 30+ mpg. It’s stuck in the middle.
If Toyota wants cars like to LC and LS to sell, it has to make cars like the RX, NX, Camry and Corolla to feel premium. Toyota’s cars are subpar relative to competition all around.
What is Luxury is a good question. Modern cars have been getting better and better in terms of comfort and refinement for the price point on a lot of cars. I think back to my month with a Kia K5 and how pleasant it was for a mass market midsizer. I’d wonder if that’s made the ceiling for luxury cars harder to reach as they still try to maintain an area of profitability. The RX is Lexus’s bread maker. A car that appeals enough to enough to pay the bills. Its allowed for the toys, but they never gave these the full Lexus treatment. You wouldn’t think this car is in any way related to the same company that made the LC 500. Maybe its to be cost prohibitive as Toyota always has been, been this car could use more identity at some point.
To me luxury is styling a smooth powertrain especially a naturally aspirated v6, a style forward interior design with retaining all physical controls, smooth ride and great handling, good space, tech that is gimmick free even if the infotainment may be dated but it’s modern enough as long as CarPlay, android auto and built in navigation are there
Hell, I feel like a base Civic has more luxury than a lot of luxury cars. Maybe it could be a little more quiet, but I don't even have a problem with the powertrain. You're right, it must be really hard to find ways to make luxury cars above that now
Sent my wife to look at the 2022 model - she absolutely hated it, more than any comparable in the segment. Said it's an "old people's car". (And we are in our 40s.) Doubt the updates will change her mind.
It’s worse fuel economy than the now killed off 3.5L Highlander…I’ve gotten 30-31mpg on the highway on 300-400 mile road trips calculating manually in a 2021 Highlander XLE AWD with the 3.5L.
Now around town, we only get 20-22mpg, but that’s still respectable in a 4500lb AWD SUV.