How To Make An Electric Kiln Cheap (part 1)
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2020
- In this video I teach you how to make an electric kiln, burnout oven, furnace for under $250. I teach you what a PID is or a Solid state relay, more things like how to manage money to make one for under $300. No welding at all. I would put in links but then you guys would accuse me of using affiliate links so sorry. I am an amazon affiliate, but I would feel bad making money if it didn't work out for you guys. I don't make money on my merch either but if you decide to buy it that's awesome. If you want to give me money because you don't like having it, I have a donation card.
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You definitely deserve more subscribers, this kinda production value isn't what I was expecting from a 232 subscriber channel lol.
I just like seeing hot liquid metal
Honestly, that’s one of the nicest things people have commented. Most people tell me the opposite and say I’ve spent too much money and should stop. I like your mindset much better
That was as good a video as I've seen on making a cheap electrical furnace - really well done!
Great job on the kiln! Definitely a cost effective project for a do it yourselfer!
Great Job! Looks amazing
Looking good. Its definitely a start, I'm sure you'll figure out that 2nd coil.
Well done video. I like to watch the learning process. This earned a new sub as I would like to see how you progress. Keep putting out those vids!!
great job, thanks for sharing your project! subscribed
You posted this 10 months ago I haven’t looked yet but wanted to know if you’d made any updates. Most of all I want to thank you because this is one of those things I always wondered if it could be done. Nice job. Thank you
Updates have been made, only 2.5 years later.
great video
Nice job
Just earned yourself a subscriber. Only 15! If I was your dad I’d be proud as hell, good job lad.
Looking forward to see how it works. You'll definately want to clean up the wiring on the back of that so you don't shock yourself, but nicely done
Pfhhh clean up? Just kidding, I’ll do that, I’ll just have to buy some porcelain boxes to cover them. That way it doesn’t short out or melt
Awesome!
Thank you for your video. How did you determine the number of watts to reach any temperature, the number of heating elements and on what voltages 110 or 120 volts. THANKS
The kiln euns very small margins, I have a second video that is much better. You could use watts to find expected temperature with volume and a specific heat of 0.718kJ/kg-K but that would be better to find loss. The heating elements were run in series so the number doesn't change anything physically, it just made it easier to distribute the heat. If you are buying the coils they should tell you the resistance per unit distance, use that and geometry to find how much you need to stretch them using V=IR your voltage is constant 110 or 120 divide by the current you want to draw, and use resistance to find the linear distance of the coil.
3:19 I recognize that is that some sort Desmos calculator I use it in class
Yah that's Desmos. I might be in your level math, who knows. Honors Algebra II?
Awesome build. Please get yourself a metal box for the controls. :D I have seen that relay fail in a commercial oven. not a good sight. If you have not found this one tip out yet. Get yourself some ceramic wire connectors. We use them in furnaces. :D take care
Haven’t looked into ceramic connectors that sounds like a great idea.
@@shawnt5272 I’ll take my chances 😂
First off great job bro. I ordered inkbird 100 had a friend try and burnt out the thing. I ordered a new one but it’s the 106 not sure the difference but I was wondering a lot of people connect the pid to a receptacle they incorporate in the box for the pid now if I did that could I keep my existing switch on my old kiln or do I have to removed that existing switch for the pid to work
I actually had the 106 seriesto begin with. I don't really have time to look at the data sheets, but they seem very similar.
This video is really awesome, thank you!!! It could probably use a few more details here and there but man if you're 15 years old this is insanely good work, keep it up!
Cool
No it’s not
What wire did you use? And what voltage and amp? I’ve heard 12 gauge should be good
I used regular extension cord wire but switched to 10awg going directly to the kiln. I couldn’t get the second set of wires to work so the regular 110v 13amp for me.
So the handle on top has metal bolts going to the inside hot zone.
This will conduct high heat to the handle.
This is not only not a good idea but kinda unsafe if some unexpecting person goes to lift the lid just to have a look.
I’m not exactly going to be using this with other people around
Wish I saw this video a lot earlier. I’m still waiting for my kiln.
hi, is this PID contoller able to ramp and soak because I am looking to buy oone for my kiln. i fitted another model but it will only go to single temperatures. Thanks
No this pid can’t be programmed. You really won’t be able to find one for this cheap, sorry!
@@American_Innovation ah right, typical. thanks
Hello Where can I buy the Parts to make a an Ashing Furnace
I got everything for mine on Amazon and Menards. Menards for months rock and frame, the amazon for most electronics 10awg wire menards
Bro I want to follow this build but I see you saying it’s not the best version is it possible for you to make the new version of this build or do you recommend any walk through for a good diy version I like yours because it’s more simple to follow then others on UA-cam
Veg oil guy has a good walkthrough although his is more complex. You could follow this with a smaller setup, more insulation, and following an resistance coil calculator. It’s been a few years, and while I’d love to revisit this, I use my resources to learn new things. I’d take concepts from multiple videos and maybe a couple teaching or reminding yourself how resistance coils work and ohms law. Remember small volume, equals cheap and hot.
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Nice work Man! how's it been working for you? i'm thinking to make one also
If you make one, make it smaller or find a more powerful source. If you are in America you probably will have problems if you make one this size. Although I haven’t tried adding a transformer to increase the current. Idk what would work, I’m not an electrician.
@@American_Innovation I have a bunch of microwave transformer I think that would be powerful enough just got to find a good deal or find them on the side of road
Exactly I was just gonna build a thing and bring it to an electronics repair shop here. I’m in central Thailand. I guess the coils might be difficult to source but yeah everything‘s doable right
How much ohms or watts its layer of resistans is??
I just posted a new video about fixing it. Resistance will vary with the type of wire and the length. I live in north america so the new one pulls 13 amps on 120V, so a little less than 9.25 ohms.
I'm in the process of making my own kiln as well.
Could you help me with a couple of inquiries I have?
shoot
@@American_Innovation I wanted to ask about the specific parts and specs of each of them to make my own using a gas furnace I couldn't use in the open due to the heat.
In my urgency, I spent nearly 4 hours talking with an AI about every little detail of every little spec until I decided on all parts and hopefully they don't explode on my face.
@@FredrickSylar Okay. Good luck! Most gas furnaces are made of a ceramic wool, I imagine because of humidity and temperature shock. So if you have wool, I'd suggest a better structure for the coils. Also make sure you aren't drawing too much current V=IR, off of 110V, I cut my wire to a resistance of 9ohms (it'll say the resistance per meter on the package) if you can't fit that much wire in the furnace, you could use a big fat resistor to reduce current draw, or better use a transformer or power supply rated for the power you want. I hope that helps, if not I do have a second video that I made after learning a bit about electrical. Make mistakes, learn a lot, and once again good luck.
@@American_Innovation my furnace is made of refractory cement so I assume it'll be easy enough to make groves for the heating coil with a router.
So far in my configuration, I'm using a v220 line with a power supply to power this setup. Boy, I wish AI wasn't screwing around when it suggested this!
I'm still waiting for parts to arrive from AliExpress since absolutely no local vendors have them in this sh!thole I'm in.
@@FredrickSylar Sounds much better than my design. Do you know the volume of your furnace and the power ratings of the power supply?
Most of the kiln build videos I've seen on UA-cam are running off 220V, that is probably why yours is maxing out at 600F. Anyway, good job on the project...(!).
I agree
Update: I made a new video with the same power and got it to hold at 1400 degrees F. It could probably go higher, but I don't need it to.
Is that 600f or 600c for the max temp?
Don’t worry about it. 😂
It’s 600°F but if you added either more insulation or a transformer (boost current) it would be a lot better. Actually I think I ran this in series which was stupid so if you tried a parallel circuit that could help
@@American_Innovation the reason I ask is I want to do lost resin casting and one of resins requires a 900F burnout temp
@@ianrhinehart makes since, like I said you could do a little upgrade and get there for sure
what has been the max temp's ?
With a shitty American power supply ~700 F I was like 15 when I made this, so stupid. If you want to replicate it but better, use 220v do your calculations for the resistance coils, close the area closer, and insulate everything, if I did it again, I’d double the bricks and use a hinged lid. Or use a transformer to conform to your needs.
@@American_Innovation ive got about everything for the ROKU propane kiln using a galvanized trash can lol, ceramic therm insulation route, but id rather have an electric one, any idea of a controller cheap?
@@American_Innovation recommendations ? im using a 31 gallon metal trash can with ceramic insulation
@@wonderwond The PID controller I used in the video is a safe bet, it's $40 on amazon with the thermocouple and the Relay. That dilemma will be fixed with what you want to use it for. If you're melting metal, propane is a great way to go. If you want to burn out wax for casting, you'd want a small, sophisticated setup with programmability, if you want to harden clay, there's a range of ways to do it. You said ROKU, that's a tV thing so I'll assume you meant RAKU, which I believe is where you heat it quickly to cause cracking in the ceramic. Electric would not be the way to go for this. I'd use propane and buy a couple firebricks at Menards to disturb the airflow and assume an even distribution of heat. To control the temperature, use a stopwatch and your eyes to gauge the flame temperature. That's about the cheapest way I can think of. And if not firebricks, Place the burner tangent to any point on the bottom of the bin to avoid uneven heating. I'd still prop the ceramic above the flame with a regular brick.
@@American_Innovation I broke down and bought a used skutt kiln for 200 bucks,,, needs very little brick repair, cant wait to test it out
600 what?
Degrees F, there’s a second video where it gets to 1400°F for $90 more.
Why is there a lion in the thumbnail?
King of the jungle. I don't know, why is it such a bad design?
@@American_Innovation idk, its a bit weird, well at least you don't have a dumbass arrow pointing at something useless, so I'd say you're doing better than most.
@@VEC7ORlt Thank you, I guess. I would change the thumbnail, but if I don't want UA-cam to send this out to new viewers as this is really only is a reference video for the updated version that is a little more electrically and mechanically sound.
You would cook your dog
Funny of you to assume I have one
@@American_Innovation he don’t need to assume because you cooked your dog before commenting that
Dude highly suggest you make a more detailed parts list and charge for that! I’d buy. / if you have a PayPal / cash app message me and I’d love to give back