Rockstar's First Racing Game Was Kinda Bad...
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- Rockstar Games once made racing games under the name Midnight Club which are still fondly remembered by millions. Yet the first game in the series is often overlooked. How good was the first racing game published by Rockstar?
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To be Rockstar's first racing game, released 3 years before NFS Underground EVEN 1 year before the first Fast and Furious, the legacy they left is to be admired
They were ahead of the curve. It's possible they were inspired by the growing popularity of Initial D and the Tokyo Xtreme Racer games from the 90s but the fact remains that they basically predicted how racing games would turn out for the rest of the decade.
@@CyanRooper Well the franchise is literally named after the famous Mid Night Club street racing club from Japan in the 90s so it's not speculation that they were inspired by Japanese street racing culture as a whole
@@bearrett50kal17Yes, they were also inspired by the Import Scene of the time, which you can see in some cars.
So the Rockstar marathon has begun on UA-cam
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The yellow Mazda in the cover photo and FMVs is owned by Dustin Worles, who started the Mischief series of DVDs in the early 2000s. Neat little piece of car culture.
Midnight Club Street Racing on GBA is like playing on SNES.
Those guys were wild, love them
23:58 imagine that she's using her dad's expensive concept car, just got literally smoked by an American Cabbie man and loses one of his concept car, I'm not sure what her dad would say that when she returns Tokyo humbly
In real life the player would probably get sued for that lmao.
If she was previously undefeated in pink slips, I think they'd still be on-top.
1:51 There's a video on the VINwiki UA-cam channel that has the owner of the Mazda MX-6 (the yellow car on the title screen) talking about the story behind the cover picture. His name is also Dustin, funny little coincidence 🙂
something to add up, if you have a Smugglers Run save file for the PS2, you unlock the buggy which is pretty interesting
EDIT: we were supposed to have Tokyo map and go to Tokyo but it got scrapped due to time constraints.
And then the Tokyo map appeared in that game and was ball crushingly difficult.
It’s a shame Midnight Club 3 & Los Angeles never made it to PC.
Especially since MCLA came out in the same year as one of the worst NFS titles, it would’ve been good to have an alternative.
Another thing I noticed in MCLA, is the fact that the engine sounds are so messed up, but they’re overshadowed by the other pros of the game.
funny enough that if you put "NFSUCKS" in your car's licenseplate in MCLA, the police dispatcher says "Need for Speed sucks" to mock EA and NFS Undercover.
EDIT: I just found out yesterday from Dustin's live stream that you cannot trigger this police line because it's cut in the final release of MCLA although the game audio files is still there so I'm sorry for my misinfo so I edited my comments to give you an update and to correct my error
@@UndercoverBoy833YT WAIT REALLY???? I should try this when I buy the game for my PS3
It's a similar issue with Burnout 3 and 4. Basically if you were a racing game fan in the 2000s, you had to have a console because not all racing games were on PC. Thank God emulation has gotten so good now.
Undercover the worst? Nah, still a great history, graphics, car selection, map, n it was the second last game made by BlackBox, +1
@@nehtuls6598 I can respect your opinion about NFS Undercover, but tbh for me the graphics are kinda yikes, at least on consoles, but on PC we have mods to enjoy
I'm not saying I hate it but it's a bad game in general at the time in 2008. I think my comment would probably not age well
Fun fact: this Midnight Club is the first open world racing game genre which exceptional of Tokyo Xtreme Racer. So thus, this game and Smugglers Run is what racing section in Grand Theft Auto should like.
Do runabout, midtown madness, crazy taxi and driver not count? Midtown madness had racing, but they’re all open world.
@@AfterBurnerTeirusu I wouldn't count Crazy Taxi no, there's quite a bit of a difference between an Open World Racing Game and a Racing Game with Open Maps.
Maybe this user meant the first as in the racing games with open world design maybe? As the games you listed had open maps but the vast majority of the gameplay wasn't open world outside of separate free-roam sandbox modes like Driver had, but that's just a guess.
no it's not.. first one was back on the ZX Spectrum, 1986 Turbo Esprit
does Vette for DOS and Mac count?
Midtown Madness: Am I joke to you?
and this game began the Midnight Club series, which it makes this game series number #1 and GRID game series is now in number #2 in my favorties.
I’ve completed Race Driver: GRID and now working through the career of GRID Legends. Love them both.
@@talaris-ukRen Hazuki also love playing GRID LEGENDS as well. You know, the game that came out after sixth episode of Genjitsu no Yohane, an anime from 2022?
@@talaris-uktry grid 2 & grid autosport before legends
7:35 There is actually morning club. It's called breakfast club.
Being “square” is a slang term that originated in 1950s America from the beat movement. The beat movement was a counterculture to the explosion of consumerism and the stereotypical nuclear family, encouraging men to sport long hair and beards which were frowned upon at the time. Being square essentially means the same as someone who’s terminally online today calling you an NPC. It means you lack individuality, you’re a cog in the machine, you’re being an oppressed and you don’t even know it.
So in that sense, saying “be there or be square” was sort of peer pressuring among the beat movement to encourage members to participate in certain events. Be at the party or you’ve been brainwashed is esssentially how it goes
Try Midtown Madness. It was same dev who made this game.
Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition is one of the best race games ever made.
It's interesting how meh the first midnight club game was and the sequels were absolutely goated, also midnight club canceled soz
Its been 16 years MIDNIGHT CLUB cancelled.😢
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I have to be real, Dustin calling PS2 launch era games "Boomer Games" got me so tilted. These aren't Atari 2600 or Intellivision games! Sure there are some more antiquated games on PS2 but I think it can be argued the 6th generation of consoles is where the birth of "modern" games happened, sure we've had visual enhancements since then but on a design level, 2000-2005 was when a lot of the standardisation came that's still used today
The fact so many teenagers are getting into this generation of gaming proves it. They usually hold up really well.
It's just streamer shit talk, a lot of "gen z" like to call things millennials grew up with boomer games lol. As someone that grew up with them I'm not too offended, we all know games back then slapped
@@ice44567 oh 100% and I'm aware I'm not like legitimately upset but I did have a "ooooo you darn kids get off my lawn" moment XD
@@ice44567 boomer is a cringe as fuck term to begin with
It's just a streamer's shit talk dude, relax
"Be there or be square" because if you're not there, you're not a-round
The devs wanted to put in a third city with tokyo all the way back in this entry. There's some map data that somebody tried a long time ago to re-implement the city.
at 8:31 you go by the old World Trade Center, right across the plaza, pretty cool detail.
Its really weird how Midnight Club was forgotten in time, since no any of indie devs never tried to make a game similar to it... Pretty sad actually
I remember I had an early PS2 that couldn't play DVD discs properly, but could play CD PS2 discs. Since the first Midnight Club came on a CD disc, I played the hell out of it.
It’s always a great morning when Dustin uploads
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I agree 👍 💯 🙆♂️ 🤝 👏 👌 🎉
Facts ☝️
@@DustinEdenYTinterestingly, even Nagisa Aoyama (Ren Hazuki) also played the GBA Version of MC STREET RACING.
Hearing a German guy pronounce Spanish words is very amusing lmao not that he did bad he actually pronounced him pretty good it's just accent humor lol
12:22
The expression be there or be square means that if one declines to attend an event, one is considered “uncool.” It implies that the event will be exciting. Someone who doesn't attend is boring. Origin of Be There or Be Square. The idiomatic word square originated between WWII and the 1950s beatnik era. As a poor American, we call a lotta punks or goobers a "square". It's something we all hate being called.
Also great upload man would always love to see any Midnight Club.
I Also Think That Telling Someone To Be There, You're Telling Them To Be Around. A Round Shape Is A Circle And The Opposite To That Is A Square
For those who haven't noticed, midnight club is kind of a successor to midtown madness
To the point we can say the first midnight club is what Midtown madness 3 would have been
Props to you Dustin for not getting pissed at the lack of control when you hit an object, I would actually hate that so much. I can’t stand when I lose control and can’t countersteer in racing games for odd reasons 😂
Grew up with MC2 and only played MC1 first time last year but thought it was actually pretty good (but not better obviously). Still, i agree that it has some really rough edges that future installments fortunately flattened out. Stuff like the janky AI and physics, jumping being a dead sentence, steer not re-centering after cornering very neatly if at all (like literally every other game does), chance at softlocking if you dont interact with other racers in a very specific way, very weak nos... It was perhaps for the better that they just focused on what content there already was, and save Tokyo for the bigger, better and more polished sequel.
But i still enjoy playing it after growing up with MC2, as i think it has many charms as well. The CTF mode was already fun to play in MC1 and the arcade mode actually has some fun gimmicks too like the meter maid race, the messy race on the aircraft carrier and the insanely hard cop races.
back when games were made with passion and charm
12:03 you can run over peds on both midnight club street racing and 2 i think they removed it later because of age rating
and because of licensed cars which the manufacturers don't want that to run over or fully damage the car
"What is wrong with British people?" - DustinEden
Imagine a gran turismo like game with a creepypasta mode that just randomly enables and disables
This was one of 3 games I got when I got my PS2 (my first console) at age 6. I still remember just driving around New York exploring because I never played an open world game before. It was fascinating to me because I mainly just played shooter games and need for speed up until then.
Well, the “first” racing game PUBLISHED by Rockstar is Monster Truck Madness 64 in collaboration with Microsoft
This one wasn’t developed by them either. :)
@@AfterBurnerTeirusu it says clearly the word “published”
@@vtr_monsterextremo5145 I meant Midnight Club, not Monster Truck Madness.
Midnight Club II is amazing and I still play it on my old PS2 all the time, but the original Midnight Club definitely hasn’t aged the best.
Imagine a street racing game that pulled live data from Google like Flight Sim
No
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I follow the guy who owns the yellow car on the cover, every now and then he’ll play BTS footage from that shoot as well as give details on how it all transpired. He’s also had his cars in other games and was/is super connected in the car scene.
wait… kuruma in gta5 is easter egg into OG MIDNIGHT CLUB?😳
So early in the PS2's lifecycle that it looks like an uprezzed PS1 game
look up the PS2 launch title and flight sim/adventure Sky Odyssey.. the graphics are a bit janky now but it has a cool PS1 aesthetic and a surprisingly realistic 3D physics engine that probably would have made a PS1 explode.
I very much enjoyed this game. My most played one was Midnight Club 3 Dun Edition on the PS 2 though, and also my favourite.
Ik you already beat the game but for anyone wondering you can tap the handbrake to regain control when your car loses control from hitting breakable objects
The original Wipeout on PS1 also applies echo to all audio in tunnels. It was way ahead of its time.
One of my first PS2 games along with Dynasty Warriors 2. I will never feel guilty for saying that these two games has totally opened the gates of the greatest game generation of all time for me.
This game has a special place in my heart
This entire video was worth watching just to hear Dustin say a bo’ohw’o’wo’er
You have to keep in mind that in the nineties we had CD-roms with ~700MB of storage and computers with 4MB video memory if they even had a graphics card. These massive maps we see today weren't really possible back then.
7:07 If TDU SC ever comes out then there should be alot of HongKong city in there. Of course there will be some rural areas outside the cities because people complained that you cant blast a supercar through an asian metropolis :)
Vaporware
The editing in this video so funny right now 😂👍
This guy literally is THE COMEDIAN 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉💯💯💯👏👏👏
Gotta play smugglers run!
Be there or be square because "youre not around" 12:17
I had this in my mountain of racing games back in the day. I have fond memories, but in hindsight, it did have many short comings. It was definitely more well known for it's gritty vibe.
LONG LIVE MIDNIGHT CLUB
Yes, I know the first Midnight Club didn’t age well, but it birthed a legend.
Any plans on playing midnight madness?
I used to play it with my father when I was 5 years old:)
13:22 that's actually cool
It makes sense you loose control when you hit something
I replayed the first MC right after his playthrought during the marathon, but unfortunately I got softlocked in London. And now I understand why I didn't played on carrer mode as a kid, because back in the days I already got softlocked! Thankfully the arcade mode works properly.
A meh game indeed, but I have very good memories of it. I prefer it over MC LA which is the episode I like the less.
The fact that you have a taxi in the game is actual gold😂😂
7:11 but BiGgEr iS bEtTeR, aMiRiTe?
Seriously though, Eden brought it up some time ago in regards to Solar Crown, and i definetly agree with that when sgeer size is cheaply made, i prefer a denser map, not with the most realistically rendered details, but with the most attention to detail and care
I don’t even need midnight club back. Just give me the same customization of GTA Online and good handling physics, and I’ll be happy
You'll be SQUARE if you're not there, because they won't see you aROUND...
Should play Smuggler's Run next.
I played theough that game with a MadCatz steering wheel on my lap
Hope you do a proper video on 2 as well. 2 feels like a music album one experiences by playing the game due to how the game uses the soundtrack. Each rival is given specific songs to associate them and their races with and many of these songs are even given specific mixes that loop a section of the song and sync up to the race countdown. Combine this trance focused soundtrack with the sort of neon aesthetic and you get a fantastic atmosphere for a fast paced racing game. The track design as well is rather interesting, making the player explore pretty much every corner of the map while also having to worry about numerous varied corners, which is difficult but also keeps the AI's rubberbanding under control. 3 and LA's far more straight forward track design results with the AI getting to rubberband with nothing to slow them down at times. But some of 2's tracks have annoyingly slow segments that just ruin the flow. Still 2 overall has some surprising highs but also annoying lows.
I used to have the original Midnight Club and beaten it. It's just the AI was cheap and unbalanced. The opponents never slow down when you fall behind and you have to be exact at knowing where to go in the map. But for its time, it was decent.
The 1st Midnight Club compared to the 2nd always makes me think of the 1st Burnout compared to the 2nd, the 1st Burnout was also a short, tech demo style game that later became what we know and love from the 2nd game forward
Man, I've played this game only once and it was fairly recently (2022 I think) and it was hard as fuck, even though I consider MC 2 and MC 3 a cakewalk. Watching this video made me want to play the game again, there's something very cool about the atmosphere of NYC and London, kind of similar to Liberty City in GTA III (which makes sense, since GTA III was also made by Rockstar, and Liberty City is based on NYC)
The funny thing is that every vehicle that has AWD actually has AWS as well.
The emulated version of this game has audio issues.
If your car entered a turn after you hit an object, use your handbrake to correct the turn. Handbrake is your best tool.
Midnight Club fans has that traits of not touching the first two games just like GTA, Fallout, Witcher, Elder Scrolls
This is why I love game industry scene in 2000s, occasionally there's a mid to bad quality game that has potential, and the industry kinda takes a chance on it, resulting in much better sequels that ultimately builds the reputation of the ip. This thing would never happen today. No matter how the quality of the game, if it doesnt sell for like millions of copy, it considered fail, the studio would be forced to shut down, and thats it. There's no room to grow anymore.
My biggest question is what would happen to midnight club 2, midnight club 3 dub edition remix and midnight club la remix if this game had Tokyo? Mostly what would happen to midnight club 2?
Sadly we’re never going to get another midnight club thanks to gta but hopefully i get proven wrong on that although even if they do bring it back i wouldn’t expect it to be any good
Yayyyy Dustin upload!!
Siuuuuuuuuu 🎉🎉🎉
Maybe you should do a Midnight Club iceberg like you did for NFS.
The first game was not terrible!! sure, the physic and control input were not the best, but the game had unique atmosphere compared to the sequels!! Do not forget the OST
bruh the title of this video was referring to GBA version.
this was my childhood... wow did this game not age well
Eden here's a tip:use your cellphone to challange other racers for their rides just like a pink slip
Try Auto Modellista, its a good racing game
I hope some elements from MC make it into GTA 6 if theyre not going to make a new one
GTA Online is basically the replacement for Midnight Club. They are definitely going to do the same with the online aspect of GTA VI. The question is how much they improved it over GTA Online.
You REALLY need to play Midtown Madness 3 🙌
solid 360 launch title, probably aged a bit but I remember it being fun as an alternative from the racing in PGR3.
Looking back, a lot of well-regarded racing franchises first entries either seem middling or forgettable when looked under a modern lens.
For example, besides the first Midnight Club, I feel like the first Burnout fits into this category, litterally every other Burnout game expanded the original premise and scope and became better and more well regarded as a result.
Another is the first Gran Turismo. I just can't go back to that one. If I'm feeling nostalgic for a PS1 era GT game, I'm gonna play GT2. The physics feel better, there's more to do, and it's more forgiving while still providing a challenge.
And of course, the Need for Speed series. To me, the franchise didn't become iconic until the third entry Hot Pursuit. The first two games I've found to be basic (except the PC version of NFS II) and kinda mid.
I understand that they were pioneers in their heyday and I appreciate them for inspiring what we eventually got. But I think I'll just give my thanks from a distance.
Did they reuse midtown madness 2's London map?
Real G's remember Smuggler's Run released on the same day
have you played Night Runners?
Kareem is a Bully Straight Menace
take rain, add big suv = as many 360s as you want.
Hope Eden tries out road trip adventure for the ps2 lol. (If you're reading this get the US version since the speed is locked to the fps)
I had this on the GBA. It was so hard
That rockstar fuck up in they own game to Underground 1 😂
Rockstar's first racing game... But not Angel Studios first. The funny thing is that they used the Midtown madness 2 London map version for Midnight club too
I remembered a lot that Midnight Club Street Racing is as hard as Dark Souls especially the first boss, Kareem and Anika, the final boss of MIDNIGHT CLUB STREET RACING.
I always seen the first Midnight Club game as a worse version of Midtown Madness 1, a game that i actually grew up with as a kid. Not to say it was bad though .
You need more subs
If your not there your square and because your a square it means your not round any one
I am the proud owner of the GBA version of this game. The missions are the same, and the layouts are the same. Only difference is that it's top down, like the original GTA.
Yo shaggy has uploaded
Compared to Midtown Madness, it kinda was a bit lackluster.
Ps2 launch titles
13:00 @DustinEden I saw you had trouble with the handling, I get it's unintuitive, you're meant to countersteer with the handbrake to recover from a turn since I know handling is the dealmaker or dealbreaker for you, especially KuruHs and friends.
First "racing" game i played it pissed me off so much lol couldn't beat it
First Midnight Club game doesn't seems to be bad, its a mid quality for a game released for the first year of PS2 in 2000. The unbalanced steering physics, broken jump physics that makes you car flip in the air, chase the rivals to start a race are the main problems, but i have fun with the rest one, especially if you are in split screen multiplayer.
O: new VIDEOOO
8:40 they didn't have permission to use the company logos either they just did
Btw the first gta was originally planned to be a top down racing game
A bit late to join the trend but i'm glad you reviewed this gem.👌