Stephen A. IS DISGUSTED over claims Falcons made a ‘MISTAKE’ for drafting Penix Jr. 🔥 | First Take
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Marcus “Swagu” Spears and Ryan Clark join Molly Qerim to talk through the Atlanta Falcons surprising in the 2024 NFL Draft by choosing Michael Penix Jr., despite already signing Kirk Cousins.
0:00 Stephen A. GOES OFF
3:40 Ryan Clark responds!
6:15 Kirk Cousins SHOCKED?
9:00 Stephen A. lost what?!
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The mistake was signing Kirk Cousin for that price lol
Yep. Boy been fleecing the league his entire career😂
Exactly!! That's the problem lol
Bridge QB for 100 million 😂
He is also injury prone
Can never finish a year
People are not mad at the pick, people are mad that you paid a guy 100 million guaranteed to draft a guy in the top 10 to be a backup? You didn’t have to spend that type of money on a qb when you coulda just made the pick and used that money to fill other holes on the team
Thanks for your common sense. If they didn’t sign Cousins, people would have been ecstatic about this pick. But you could have finally grabbed a much needed edge rusher, and you make a luxury pick instead. What a terrible front office
People should be mad at the pick. Penix was exposed numerous times in his own conference. He wasn't good enough to win at Indiana; Washington just happened to have a more talented team than the rest of its conference. When Penix had to play an NFL caliber defense in the national championship game, he proved that he couldn't do it.
I’m mad at the pick. They just drafted a QB that won a lot of college games against lesser competition but looked less than average against top competition which is what you see every game in the NFL.
Did they not do the same thing with Mahomes, Rodger’s, love? How did it work out for those teams?
@@marcusmcgraw3519
1. There are six rounds left. Relax.
2. As a Vikings fan, Cousins did the same thing with them: insured he was the only QB with minimal backup insurance. Look at last year.
It's not a mistake it just doesn't make sense. Why pay Cousins and enter "win now" mode, to use a top 10 pick on a player you don't intend to play. It might turn out great as a long term move, but it doesn't help you in the short term.
So what’s the problem? You said it, it might turn out to be a great long term move lol the 2024 draft not over yet
Only issue that don't make sense is they paying cousins 100 million guarantee for the next 3 years and draft a 24yrs old qb. If he doesn't play for 3 years they gonna have to pay Pitts, Robinson, etc so it's kinda strange move
@blacklac100 the problem is that they aren't good enough to be on the 2 timelines plan. They're barely good enough to be on one timeline. You don't get Cousins unless you want to win now which is fine, but then they hindered their ability to do that by not improving the team right now. It's mixed messaging if nothing else
@@SportsSpeak73kit cousins is 36 and just tore his Achilles and Michael Penix will start by the end of the year
Cousins is only good in the regular season so if you thought he was winning you a super bowl you smoking crack
Tampering to pay $100M to a QB just to draft a in the top 10 is crazy.
What if we don’t have a first rounder next year because of tampering? Buy now enjoy later
@@kingdavid5525u right no first round but plus Atlanta making the play playoff this year so they wasn’t going one anyway
Compared to what DESHAUN WATSON is being paid, $100 million is CHUMP CHANGE.
Falcons said “sim the off-season it’ll be fine”
This is absolutely hilarious 😂
Legit Bro
This is the best joke I’ve seen on this so far
😅 I rather us have Penix than the Aints lol
Not “sim the off season” 😭😭😭
"the quintessential role model when it come to getting your bag for minimal production" 😂
😂😂😂 that took me out
Kirk Cousins’ agent needs to get inducted in the HoF
I literally came across this comment at exactly the same time I’m watching him say this exact line 😂😂😂
Had me in the first half
Kirk cousins has had as many playoffs win as Mike Tomlin in the last 10 years yet Mike Tomlin is looked as being an elite head coach.
Paying Cousins that kind of money is just ridiculous.
Kirk Cousins only won 1 playoff game
@@alexandrade7835 Smh.
Kind of reminds me of the Russell Wilson deal!!
Stephen A is like Lamar Odom smoking CRACK! 😂
lol you just mad cause he went at your white boy kirk cousins
Wish they had Shannon on this take i would have loved to see this,
Na he's right only thing is thry paid him the money they paid but he's 36 coming off of an Achilles injury we don't know what kirk they getting and that he'll bee there after 2 years
@@kristopherbrown8276 You can't rationalize this man. You don't even have to pay Kirk all that money if you knew you wanted a future quarterback out of the draft. Just draft a quarterback and use the money you paid Kirk to fill other positions. But once you dropped the Brinks truck on Kirk you basically tied yourself to the present. And then you took a quarterback with the eighth pick. Lol. It's stupid, no other way around it.
@demondesires865 go to his podcast he talk about it and trust me him and Steve a would not agree about this
They should've never signed Cousins if they were going to draft a QB. All that money could've been spent elsewhere to improve the roster.
Thank you for speaking facts
Lmao improve the roster for one year just to not do anything is crazy😂
I said the same thing
Exactly,stupid that's the falcons for you 😂🤷
Who expect Penix to still be on the board? By all indications is that Penix was supposed to be gone by the time the Falcons picked him, the only reason the Raiders didn’t try to move up is the Falcons didn’t show their hand and say they was picking a QB.
SAS cried like a teenage girl for 6 months when Green Bay drafted Jordan Love with Rodgers still there 😂😂
Kirk got one playoff win stop
You're comparing Kirk Cousins to a top 10 HOF QB...
Totally different situation. Green Bay drafted both of them for one. Shall I continue?
Just because you yell doesn't you right 🤣 dude is a clown
Whoever gave cousins that money is the clown.
Yeah I can’t stand SAS. He does his little crybaby schtick instead of analyzing at this point, and it’s become dry
Yet you still watching lol@marcusmcgraw3519
@@marcusmcgraw3519lol when he goes like this against Lamar or lebron it’s ok but noooo don’t say nothing about Kirk cousins lol
He is
Only Stephen A would be dumb enough to think the reason falcons fans were disappointed had anything to do with Kirk Cousins feelings
Thank you. Nobody cares about Kirk Cousins’ frustration, and if they do it’s because they understand why he feels that way in this situation. SAS made the argument about something it wasn’t. If people were frustrated with the pick, it’s because they could have picked a guy that could help them now, not one that has to sit for 3 years
You are missing the point. This is about race for stepehen a
@@99Maddux omg what an insightful comment. If cousins was the black qb and Penix was white, you can bet SAS would be outraged and make it into a narrative about how they can’t wait to replace black QBs
Horrible take by Stephen A as expected
@@99Maddux could not agree with you more 👍
The only disappointing thing is that we likely won't get to see Penix play next year because he's fun to watch.
Whoever is the GM is needs to be fired
The owner was pissed. GM screw himself pretty bad cuz if they don't make the playoffs this year he's definitely getting fired
@@xmobkilla9067He wasn't pissed
@@xmobkilla9067 reports say it was blank's decision.. don't say something like that when you don't know what you're talking about. our gm has been incredible over the last 3 years
@@xmobkilla9067you’re just making up lies bro lol
@@colefleming5 so why was the GM explained himself to the owner. They literally got it on camera that he had to justify his pick. This team is not that great they have of holes. They don't make the playoffs that GM's gone.
I don’t think it’s a mistake. Let’s be very very clear. Kirk Cousin’s is 36 with an achillis tear. They need someone who is young to sit back and learn and get ready to take the field, Kirk could go down at any point and they need the future.
You didn’t say any new insight.
If it's that much risk with Kirk why pay him all that money? Just pour that money into other needs and draft a quarterback. From that standpoint it was very stupid.
@@zekeharris5276 why do I need to point out any more than the obvious when people are freaking out
So then why pay a person like that 100 million just to draft the future? All of it makes no sense
A problem is that the guy they picked is more injury prone than the guy they want him to eventually replace. He's 24 and has had two ACL surgeries and ops to both shoulders.
The biggest thing about this idiocy is that if they are truly are in "win now" mode, then they would've gone and got pieces for spots they need more.
Picking Penix shows that they're not and that they wasted $180 million on someone they didn't need. They could've gotten another veteran QB for much less.
Steven clown Smith at his finest
He dropped the ball big time on this take. He cares about making people laugh more than real analysis
Nah you a 🤡. Cousins is OVERRATED AND OVERPAID!! 🤡
Always.😂
In 5 years when he's whinning and putting on an idiotic show because Penix is 30 and about to start his first season we should remind him of his idiotic takes. The problem is nobody holds him accountable for all his clowning.
Idk why falcons fans are mad. Kirk cousins is just a bridge qb . Kirk isn’t the future. Michal phenix is.
I agree with you. I think if it was a later round it wouldn’t be a shocker.
I thought is was a good pick people care too much about instant gratification; plus Kirk always gets hurt
penix is 24 tho lmao
They paid 100 million guaranteed for a bridge QB? The Patriots got a bridge guy for far less.
Falcons already got a bridge qb in taylor. Why would you give cousins all that money to be a bridge qb. That's some dumb people activity. It's not a mistake to draft penix jr, it's just that you can't pay cousins all that money to just be a bridge qb.
Of course it’s a mistake. If it’s not, then signing Cousins to a lucrative deal was a mistake. It’s one or the other at this point
I honestly despise when the media pushing this notion that what worked for 1 team must work for all teams …. Just because GB is good at sitting young QBs and helping them flourish when the time is right doesn’t mean every single team has that in them as well …. Certain teams are good at developing and drafting certain positions and others are not , quit bringing up Jordan Love to justify picking Penix too early
If you're a Falcons fan and you don't understand this move. You haven't watched us play the past 6 years and you don't know anything about Kirk Cousins. This was a great investment where we've been qb anemic the past 6 plus years. We need depth and Kirk was overpaid.
You have three assets in the NFL. Cap dollars, draft picks, and players. You used a significant amount of cap space and a premium draft pick on the same position in the same off-season. Enough said.
Well-stated
Absolutely correct! These espn guys are dumb. Do they not understand the sport they are supposed to talk about?
Not to mention there could be a tampering scandal with Atlanta which would lose them their first round pick. So it seems they are worried they wouldn’t get a top qb next draft so they took it this year for insurance as a back up. Idk if Penix will be too happy to be the Jordan love of the falcons.
This is the most insightful comment I’ve read or heard all day. If true, the first mistake was tampering. I feel bad for both Cousins and Penix neither deserves this.
The falcons being the falcons
Watch us win for the next ten years
@@techwood16that will never happen but i like your optimism
Super bowl contenders now. Maybe it pushes cousins to finally win one.
@@soapylemur7507 and who’s your teams sir?
Absolute JOKE of a franchise 😂
Falcons had a Top10 pick. You'd typically think that you don't take a Top10 pick on a guy that's going to be a backup. That seems counter-productive to me. Why not take a pass rusher or a coverage safety ?
The Penix pick could be a locker room killer. I like the idea of a young QB to back up Kirk, but the Falcons have too many needs on defense.
Stephen A didn't listened to one thing RC and Sawgu said.
The fact that the Falcons paid 180 mil for Cousins, plus draft a QB who won't start till he's a bit old, yet you could of gotten him maybe 2-3rd round, stacked in the offensive side, and really mainly needed a defensive play maker. Falcons messed up 🤣🤣🤣
The Falcons have a possible out on Cousins in 2026. If they take that out, Penix will be 27 when he is the starter. He will have at most three years left on a rookie contract assuming they pick his fifth year up. I don’t think the QB pick is a terrible idea to sit for a couple of years. But why would you take a QB with plenty of his own injury issues and will be old by rookie standards if you want a future starter down the line?
Nowadays QBs can play till their 40s. Kirk is 35 right now and got $100 mill for 4 years.
@@Ghostkilla773who’s a good qb over 35?😂brady the goat?😭
4.4 speed , 4900 yards passing . Led the fbs two straight yrs in passing yards . That’s why you pull the trigger
@@kylewade8704I mean... Brees was still good past 35 until he was about 40 🤷🏾♂
@@kylewade8704 Rodgers
They passed up on Russ and Fields for a 4rd round pick to pay $120M to an injured 36 year old player and a QB who won’t play till he’s 26. Brilliant
Dumbest draft pick in the last decade. Dude won't play until he's 26.
Takk McKinley was a dumber pick, especially when you pass up TJ Watt
Dumbest move giving cousins all that money for what?
The falcons gonna have a developed young healthy qb when they lose the old, brittle underachiever they have now
Don’t talk about age because qb rules have them playing past the age of 40’s or beyond
He's not even good enough to play in the NFL. Michigan exposed him, as did several of the untalented teams in his conference. Washington should have lost 3 or 4 games but was saved by refs and luck.
Drake Maye should have gone #1 overall, and if the Falcons needed a QB, J.J. McCarthy was right there.
This isn't about how good Kirk Cousins is, Atlanta obviously thinks he's great considering the money they gave him. I'm just bummed that Penix won't get a chance to play right away. He isn't a raw QB, he played in a pro style offence and he's without a doubt the best pocket passer in this draft. He's not gonna go through crazy development by sitting behind a QB (he ain't Jordan Love, Patrick Mahomes, Trey Lance etc..) he's already pretty refined and he'll get better by playing games.
Drafting him wasn’t a mistake. The mistake was not using that money to bring in someone to help penix. Basically no help for cousins and no help for penix.
This is the best explanation that anyone has ever said!!! You explained it perfectly and precisely.
I cant say this enough: the Patriots got a bridge guy for far less. The idea you pay a bridge guy 100 million guaranteed is the problem. Why not sign Drew Lock or somebody then? It would be so much cheaper.
Yes, but Kirk Cousins is a much better QB than your typical bridge guy. He can at least get the Falcons to the playoffs, even if they don’t win a Super Bowl.
Kirk is like Alex Smith for the Chiefs and Penix is Mahomes. That is the Falcons' plan, have Penix developed for a few years before becoming the starter. The Packers also did it with Jordan Love. I think more teams should be doing this instead of thrusting rookie QBs into starting spots.
@@Mr.X2188 bad comparison. Kirk cousins is far better and much less of a game manager than Alex smith ever was, even coming off the injury. Penix is nowhere near as talented as Mahomes and is much more injury prone. Penix will be in his late 20s by the time he will have a chance to start. Wasn’t this team supposed to be competing this year?
@@marcusmcgraw3519obviously you don’t play chess. Out of all the quarterbacks in the past 2 years there hasn’t been a better quarterback than Penix. Check the stats. Plus your the perfect “American” never had to overcome anything. Well I relate more to Penix and Cusions. Cuz a guy who works hard every year to get there but may for short and yet still blame no one and be a great person. Penix should’ve quit after not 1 but for 4 injuries and became the most accurate gunslinger of the draft. If not for injuries he would’ve went 1 or 2. But some people judge base off the cover only, us Falcons don’t we love the intangible’s. We will see in 3 years whose direction/decisions was more aligned for the TEAM itself.
@Mr.X2188 sir was Alex Smith on year 1 of his contract?
Stephen A missing the point AGAIN. They drafted a 25 year old with the same injury history. They guaranteed Kirk 100 mil. Then don't draft support for now. Atlanta looks almost as foolish as Stephen A on this one.
We talk about Kirk Cousins playoff record like hes played on any good teams? Has he played with a top 10 defense before? How do you expect to win games when everything is a shoot out.
Remember everyone was saying the Cowboys should draft a QB and now those same people are going crazy about the Falcons drafting an injured, old QB's replacement. Privilege on display
I'm surprised that the Falcons GM still has a job after signing Kirk Cousins to that massive 4-year/$180 million deal.
That contract wasn’t the problem. Drafting Penix AFTER signing cousins to that deal was the problem. Why even make this move when you need pass rushers bad?
@marcusmcgraw3519 idk what the Falcons are thinking right now. No wonder this team has always gotten picks in the Top 10 in almost every year.
@@fallenone_79 totally agreed. Some things aren’t meant to change. This pick is a good way to sum up the history of the Falcons
Its a 2 year deal.. Geez. Stop looking at NFL contracts like it's the NBA...
Penix Jr is 24 💀💀 he gonna make his rookie debut at 28?
26
Kirk is NOT playing all 4 years
He starting next year this year if cousin doesn’t come out hot then this season
@@raventhornton467 then why give Kirk that much money ? It just doesn’t make sense
The mistake wasn’t drafting Penix the mistake was giving 34 year old Kirk cousins 100 mil guaranteed coming off of a Achilles who’s never had playoff success
Just take notes of all the criticism now.
Falcons about to rule the NFC South for next 7-10 seasons.
1. They will have no QB concern for at least 5 years. So now all their focus can be on upgrading defense & resigning offensive talent.
2. Look at QBs for other NFC South teams, Bryce for Panthers? Baker for Bucs? Carr for Saints?
3. Falcons offense is gonna be top 10 with Kirk then Penix, so if Morris can get the D to be top 15, they will win 10+ games every year.
4. With Penix possibly starting after 3 seasons, he won't demand max contract $$$. He will probably get $45 mil/ season contract after rookie deal rather than $60 mil. Might go with a Cousins type contract, 4 yr/ $180 mil/ fully guaranteed.
HC talking about future baffles me lol. You’re not guaranteed to still be the HC if/when he gets to start big dawg 😂
If the Falcons are that concerned about Cousins, either because of injury or his performance in big games, then why give him $100 million guaranteed? They could have spent that money elsewhere, then it would make sense to draft a QB in Round 1. Unless they plan on Cousins not working out, Penix probably won't be their starting QB until he's at least 27. It's absolutely a mistake.
Thanks for your common sense. Nobody is saying we can’t understand why the Falcons would want to take a weakness and make it a strength. We’re saying the moves make no sense in themselves and cancel each other out. That’s the part people need to focus on. How do they possibly plan to add a pass rusher now?
I need people to really think about this: why not double down at the game’s most valuable position? Quarterbacks are hard to secure. Having too many is better than not having enough. If Cousins returns to previous form, the Falcons won’t have to rush Penix’s development. On the other hand, if Cousins fails to recover as planned, the Falcons suddenly have an insurance policy. Moreover, the way these deals are now, with the constant increase of the salary cap, the guaranteed money is going to get higher. That is what matters on the deal, not the years.
first of all if kirk serves as a good mentor and helps penix become a franchise qb then the contract is priceless in comparison to the value penix will bring
Let's face it, they're not sniffing a Super Bowl with Kirk as their QB. He's there to make them relevant and maybe a playoff appearance to inevitably get booted. Can develop Penix and reset clock in a couple years, like Jordan Love.
And fully agree, Kirk got the bag he wanted, stfu 😂
Best take on here. Falcons got Kirk to be at least in the playoffs till Penix is ready, who can be a big time QB and get them to the Super Bowl.
Exactly, give Penix the Jordan Love treatment. And unlike the Packers, the Falcons didn't need to trade up and give up draft capital to draft him. They just got their franchise QB for when Kirk leaves or retires.
Love is 25 as we speak and has been with GB since 2020. Rodgers was 21-22 when he got picked and sat behind Favre.
Penix is 24, injury prone, and probably won't be the starter at the earliest at 26/27. 28/29 if Cousins stays with the full contract and holds the job.
The comparison doesn't work.
@@Mr.X2188 the Packers traded up in the late 1st and didn’t give that many assets. The Falcons used an early 1st when they should have grabbed an edge rusher. Your comparison is dumb at best
@@marcusmcgraw3519 the first defensive player wasn’t picked until the 15th pick in the draft. That says alot about what teams think about this defensive class. There may not be that game changing pass rusher this year.
Stephen A sounds like a complete fool. smh he clearly doesn't get it
This schtick would have worked if we were hating on the Cowboys. But we weren’t
He clearly doesnt agree with your opinion. Doesnt make him wrong.
@@LuvThySelf he didn't mention anything about how much they are paying cousins. and you going to turn around and pay a rookie top rookie money. so again, he CLEARLY doesn't get it
@@chrissweezy9747He mentioned his pay in the first minute of the video. Watch it again
@@tyriqueknox1003 Exactly, he just stated it and he's the fool but you're still watching him smdh
As a Falcons fan, Mr. Smith, allow me to explain it to you.
1) If Kirk Cousins is worth the guaranteed contract, if Cousins' medicals were clear, then drafting Penix Jr. is wasting a pick.
2) If you are concerned with Cousins' injury or post-season production to the point you need to draft Penix Jr., then signing Cousins was a waste of $100 million dollars.
I'm with you on not caring if he was consulted. I don't give a wet moose-fart about Kirk Cousins' feelings. He's an employee. An employee who is over-compensated for his services.
The Atlanta Falcons made a surprising, but absolutely brilliant move to draft MPJ.
The general manager and head coach are being PROACTIVE, as opposed to being REACTIVE.
There’s still plenty of great drafts choices available people.
Sit back and watch the front office work.
And they did just that on Day 2…armchair GM’s kill me😂😂😂
As a Falcon fan im def confused
Why he’s the qb of the future for yall
Why? Do you expect to be winning SB’s with Kirk Cousins?
Let’s be real, Kirk will play this season and if Penix is good you will get him, a good and young QB next season, and if he isn’t good enough than whatever, just stay with Kirk.
I would risk any pick for a chance to get a star QB.
@@gillokonkwo791what’s hard to understand about this? They paid Kirt 180 million! 😂
@@dreezy1270 ok…… and he’s been in the league since 2012.
@@gillokonkwo791Penix won’t get a shot until he’s 28. Your QB of the future will have maybe 4 or 5 good years out of him before he declines
Id like to remind everyone that Jordan Love is 25/26.
If a guy can ball then it does not matter. I dont know if Penix will be good but can we at least chill about the age thing. Hes not 50 😂
Sitting behind Aaron Rodgers is different than sitting behind Kirk cousins
@cruzinthruspace Kirk is still a very good QB. He was on pace to be an MVP candidate last year. He is for sure a top 10 QB in this league.
As RC said, they JUST got Kirk Cousins this offseason on a 4 year deal. Hasn’t even played a snap yet. Having an insurance policy is fine, but with a pick that high??
Yeah except if penix sits for anywhere near as long as love did he’s gonna 27/28 pushing 30
@@thekingbradable
kirk Cousins is a pretty good QB yeah?
When will the Falcons get a chance to pick this high again? Any chance of getting the next dude while he is on the roster goes down dramatically.
Think.
If Bo Nix went 12th (12!) This year. What does that say about the quality of the QBs available at the bottom of the 1st rd, going forward?
You pick now because you hope to never draft this high again. And since you won't (fingers crossed), then this is your best chance.
Now did they pick the right guy 😅 . . .
Penix last QB since Patrick Mahomes to throw for 4500 yards in last two season of college ...period.......
I was completely shocked initially…It’s starting to grow on me… the Falcons will more than likely make the playoffs the next 2 years… or at least be drafting in the later rounds… in 2 years the kid will be ready to take over the team
Stephen A missing the entire point you just gave cousins a huge contract then you turn around and use your top 10 draft capital on a QB that many projected would probably be top of 2nd round
Wrong he wouldn’t fall past Minnesota y’all be loud and wrong
Only reason was because of injuries. Talent wise he’s top 10 for sure.
Kirk cousins hasn't won ANYTHING. Shut up play and stop whining. If you good enough you'll win the starting spot
Lol they paid him 180 million.😂😂😂 CAP HIT 😂😂😂
Bro what are you talking about? He's got the spot regardless. You don't give a QB almost 200 mil and then say go compete with the rookie. It wasn't a dumb move just weird in that spot. No one feels bad for Kirk just think they defintely could have filled a need before thinking yeah QB for the future. While they got an out in 2 years for Kirk you kinda gotta hope that with that money they paid him you're not cutting dude 2 years into his contract lmao. They could have gotten Rome to be fair also. If that team is in win now you get win now pieces.
@@ne0n1nja247 so if he got the spot regardless (plus the money) wth is he upset about??? The dumb move was paying him not drafting penix
He ain't winning shih, he ain't starting over cousins 😂
@@shaquillecovington because they could have drafted a piece that will actually play and make the team better lol. they used the #8 pick on a guy whos gonna ride the bench for 3 years at least.
Every NFL team should have at least 2 starter level quarterbacks and a third stringer in my opinion
Right because if you don’t have a qb your pretty much not winning anything. Defense wins championships but without a decent qb you’re pretty much done
Penix is similar to Russel Wilson’s prime deep ball dominance, except he has a stronger arm, and is taller, and faster.
The one thing with Penix that is underrated is HOW CLUTCH HE IS.
Took a nothing UW team to a 2 loss and 1 loss natty championship seasons; but the late game final game winning drive gene is the hardest thing to find in a QB.
"A nothing UW team that had the best offensive line in college football? A nothing UW team that had 3 THAT'S THREE receivers that were all drafted into the NFL and one of them at #9? What kind of a moron are you?
Everyone is over reacting this seems like a good pick in my opinion. Anyone thinking Kirk is gonna play out all 4 years of the contract is being delusional
He's out after 2 guaranteed.
Cool, then they get to eat 70 million dead cap, so they still screw themselves.
Why pay a fortune for Kirk Cousins then if he’s not a long term solution? You could have just gotten a much cheaper option instead of paying over a hundred mil when you’re going to take a QB anyways in the draft. It was a horrible pick. There is no justifying it, after paying Kirk all that money and when you take into account Penix is old for a rookie as is.
@@CdGrifter because the cheaper option doesn't give you the confidence of winning now which is the goal. If you haven't noticed the falcons are led by 2 black men. When Black men don't succeed INSTANTLY in the NFL they aren't giving the ability to see through their plan. so they have to approach it differently. Must win now and plan for the future.
Stephen A is actually wrong about Kirk cousins being the best at securing the bag. The player who is best known for securing the bag with minimal production has to be Sam Bradford.
That’s a good one. I forgot all about Brad lol. But it’s definitely Cousins. No way you sign him injured at that number and he’s 36.
Can we all just stop saying "securing the bag." Jesus, Americans love a cliche. I heard "Let's Goooooo" screamed 1,382 times last night.
And meanwhile we still haven’t addressed the pass rush…
So you telling me by the time Penix gets on the field, he’ll be 26 at least. Could be 27-28 if everything works out with Kirk.
I hate when ESPN dudes like SA just makes things so complicated. This was a bad move. Point blank period
One of if not the biggest weakness last year for the Falcons was play at QB. They’ve addressed the problem very quickly. Smart move.
💯
Phenix would've been there if they got an Edge rusher first
I thought they addressed the issue 45 days ago?
I mean, it’s a good decision in my opinion. They went from having a terrible QB room to now having a great veteran QB and a great rookie QB who can learn a lot and probably be ready to play day one if something happens.
You mean a mediocre veteran qb.
@@patiencesaniya3474 considering his age and his year over year consistency of producing fantastic stats in comparison to an average NFL QB I’d say he’s a great veteran to have on a team.
@@AARon-fe1mo In the world of mediocrity.
@@patiencesaniya3474I bet your young
No one can make this pick make sense!
Swagu said it best, the Falcons just paid $180 million to Kirk Cousins. Signaling that this is Kirk's team, then they draft his future replacement (with a top 10 pick!!) instead of drafting a player that makes the current team better.
The mistake was Stephen A. Smith Sr NOT pulling out!
Pennix was an upgrade .....
No he’s not
A rookie 24 y.o. who's already had 4 surgeries, two of them on the right knee and one with his throwing shoulder... is better than a seasoned NFL veteran who's coming off an injury?
@@distortedsoul27 Kirk Cousin has a torn Achilles.....But you okay with that I wonder why
@@Neonking16 it makes sense for you to say this because he only beat you twice in the same year so it's expected by you yahoos 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@@CoachRJ334 did you not watch him under pressure??
Espns draft coverage couldn’t be more insufferable if they tried. Including this. God I wish they’d all shut up. Why am I watching this??
Stephen A must be drunk & dumb!
The point is that spending $180 million dollars on a QB and then spending the 8th pick on another one is either a waste of money or a waste of a draft pick.
1: The QB does NOT work in the front office. 2: If Penix goes down or does nothing in his Falcon's career then the naysayers win this call. 3: If Kurt goes down anywhere in the next 3 seasons and the Falcons don't skip a beat then this pick will go down as one of the best insurance policies in this draft. 4: If Cousins gets us to the playoffs the next 3 seasons we won't have a top 10 pick for a franchise QB. 5: If Penix takes us to 4-5 NFC Championship games all the conversation about the pick will be "Genius call".
Kirk is temporarily Penix is the future
So why pay cousins?
@@michaelsandle2152 Because the QB position is severely overpaid, so you have no choice.
@@michaelsandle2152bc they wouldnt have got him paying a low amount
Stephen a is on the spectrum
Spectrum A Smith
No matter how you look at this. Why did you pay $180M if he wasn’t the answer for your team the next 4 years? Simply put, you don’t pay him and you give Penix the torch. It makes no sense to sit a 24 year old QB who’s the most QB ready.
Drafting Penix in the first round after having just given a massive contract to Cousins is one of the biggest mistakes in the last 20 years of the draft. If Stephen A doesn’t recognize that then he needs to stop talking about football and stick to basketball.
Penix is a 1st qb maybe 2rd but penix may have gone to wrong situation
What do you mean, he is going to the best situation. He is going to sit behind a top 10 QB for a few years and develop. Just like Mahomes and Love.
He's in a great position. Have you seen that offense?
@@The_Dark_Skywalker vikings better situation
@@jesusm2159 false the Falcons have a weaker division and out JJ. Better skill players. Your defense is better as well. Plus the market for Penix is better suited for Atlanta than Minnesota let's be real.
@jesusm2159 How? JJ has to start immediately in a division with a Super Bowl contender, a Super Bowl dark horse, and a playoff team. The Vikings are the worst team in the NFC North right now whereas the Falcons are the best in the NFC South. Plus, I would argue any situation where a rookie gets to sit behind a very good veteran is better than one where they have to start immediately.
Why is everyone mad when we just saw how this played out in Green Bay?
Because the Falcons are in win now mode. So was the Packers. Even though the pick worked out for Green Bay, at the time, it was not wise.
The Chiefs too with Mahomes. More teams need to let rookies sit behind veterans to develop. It's certainly better than thrusting them to a starting spot.
@@KNByam exactly, not to mention the Packers drafted Love at 26. The Falcons picked Penix at 8, when they could have gotten an edge rusher instead
@marcusmcgraw3519 no one drafting an edge rushing over a potential franchise QB. GTFO.
1 pick does not change the mindset of the falcons. they could take best Edge, WR and , CB in the 2nd and 3rd and all is well in Atlanta.
ppl are just shocked but i’m just glad we didn’t take Bo nix or JJ frfr or wait into later. this pick takes away the future pressure of finding a successor and i’m all for it
I understand they're looking ahead of the future, but me personally, i would've drafted Dallas Turner. They need help on that defense
it's not a mistake drafting Penix Jr because his the best pure passer and this years draft but it was a mistake giving cousins all that money if you know you where going to draft Penix Jr
Penix isn’t a project like Love was. Penix is 24 years old, he’s ready to start, he’ll be 27 years old by the time he takes over for Kirk.
thats if kirk stays health and he plays well.
Bears fan here.
I wish we would have traded down to get MHJ.
Then traded up to get MPJ, and mabey figured out away to get Alt in the process.
MPJ is ready right now, and will most likely have a bigger impact then Caleb when he gets to play.
Personally I think MPJ was the most underrated player in the draft.
"Just a Thought"
A lot of my fellow falcons fans should hear this they don’t know we got a steal but they’ll learn
Bad decision on Atlanta. You grab a player who may not see the field until Cousins contract runs out. You pay Cousins over 100 mill, and you had a chance to get Dallas Turner . Instead, it was an early second round pick in Pennix . Wow!!! Incredible!!!
Dude might sit for 3 years like trey lance did
Cousins coming off Achilles injury might not make it for 3 years. Oh by the way cousins is 36 today
SAS got no idea why we're actually mad lol
He’s pissed penix ain’t gonna be starting in Atlanta for a while because he’s black and Kirk is white
I’m not saying that Kirk is a long term thing. I’m not saying that Penix is a bad QB. The fans are saying why pay a “bridge” type QB $100+ million contract when you knew you wanted Penix or a QB for the future. We could’ve allocated the money we gave Kirk to other areas on the team.
And i really do hate the Mahomes/Alex Smith comparison when Alex Smith was paid half the amount Cousins got and Mahomes was 2 years younger than Penix and was truly meant to sit a year.
Stephen pretty much saying is not a mistake because penix is a “brother” but if they drafted JJ it would’ve been different lol
We already learned that third round QBs aren’t the play anymore. We have a win now QB, and a backup+future QB.
Paying the top free agent QB a long massive contract AND then drafting a QB at #8 basically defeats the purpose/benefits of BOTH MOVES!!!! The GM should be fired even before the 2nd day of the draft starts.
Stephen doesn’t understand the dynamics. They paid a fortune to bring in cousins so they can start winning games now. Then they didn’t do anything to make their team better for the first round. They could’ve got a starter who helps them win. why bother bringing in cousins if this is what you’re going to do afterwards? It makes zero sense, not surprising from the Cleveland Browns of the south.
Obviously Racist A Smith making it about race
This is one of the rare times where I agree with Stephen A 100% about my guy Penix. Penix is going to prove his value in due time. The man is a winner. It's that simple. He will win a lot of games for Atlanta when he gets his shot and a lot of Atlanta fans who are booing now will be thankful then.
I’m a falcons fan and I’m excited I was happy when I saw we drafted phenix
@johnwaldo6758 he has the intangibles and he has the work ethic. He's a perfectionist and he's plain and simple just a winner. A lot of people will disagree with this next statement, but I don't care. Michael Penix was the best QB in this class and he will prove that when his number gets called. You guys got a future HoFer. Take care of my guy. We'll miss him in Washington. But he went to a team that will give him an opportunity to shine sooner than later. I don't see Cousins lasting 2 full years. I think he'll get injured unfortunately for him. But it won't be unfortunate for Atlanta because Penix will work every day and he'll be prepared to drop dimes to Pitts and that receiving core and when that happens then the best version of Bijon will come out. You guys are set for the next dozen years at least. Watching Penix for the last 2 years was absolutely amazing. The young man is built to succeed, and he doesn't know anything about failure. That's a foreign word to him. He's a winner and IMO he is the true steal of the draft.
@@FatherFirst hopefully you’re right us falcon fans been going through the worst from the superbowl to finding a qb. Hopefully phenix is the answer to our problems time will tell I’m sure he’s going to shine and falcon nation will embrace him. Some fans don’t understand the move right now but they’ll learn soon
Cousins is mad cuz he came to Atlanta to WIN. Not screw around like a 3rd rate team does. Stephen A is wrong.
According to NFL network Penix was the QB the Falcons wanted and the Raiders who had pick #13 tried to trade up to get Penix.
The truth of this matter is the Falcons going into the draft didn't know whether they were going to be able to get Penix or not so they signed Cousins 3 weeks before draft so they would have a solid veteran QB for 2024.
These guys should be saying Michael Penix just got screwed by Atlanta cuz barring injury Penix won't start.
He’s not a bad player. It’s the fact that the falcons have been in need of defense forever and you just avoid picking the obvious option😑
And hint hint remember the falcons could be stripped of draft picks next year because of tampering, and won’t even be in contention in drafting in the top 10, and hello fellas the QB draft class isn’t good at all next year. Your only talking about shedur sanders, and carson beck? What are the options. Why not select your QB now when it’s a heavy QB class and hey if the falcons would’ve waited to get there guy he wouldn’t have been there. Remember who the Offensive coordinator is for Seattle.
What if the owner pushed for Cousins and not the GM? Nobody thinking about that. Kirk and Jay Cutler are the kings of getting paid. Falcons should’ve spent that money else where because Penix Jr. Doesn’t need to sit but it will help.
Also Vikings traded up one spot it’s possible ATL thought Minnesota would take him which makes sense * so ATL drafted Penix then Minnesota panicked a little and traded up to get JJ. M.*
Guaranteed a guy $100M this off-season & then use a top 10 pick on the same position. Let him sit 4 years & learn? Now you'll have a 28 year-old who is at the end of his rookie deal. This move has nothing to do feeling sorry for Cousins, all about a completely ignorant move.
Why did they draft him to make him sit? Playoff/championship teams draft younger QBs to replace their franchise QB, Kirk isn't the franchise QB he just signed not too long ago, he's a gap QB lol. Idk what Ryan was talking about, this literally doesn't make sense.
(1) Defense is not a priority of ANY KIND in the NFL.
(2) Green Bay has shown when you have stability at the QB position... you draft for the franchise when you have an opportunity.
(3) Kirk Cousin was notified when he got that contract. He is a player, not an owner.
(4) Penix Jr. Could be the real deal if he has time to fully heal, learn, and prepare to be the qb of the future in a league that heavily penalizes defense for being physical and he will have a ready made offense in place when he takes the keys...
This could be a GENNIUS move.
Love the Penix pick, and I'm a season ticket holder. He's who I've wanted since the off-season started. Love how Ryan said Raheem sold it, because that's exactly right.
Arthur Blank must be friends with the people at Disney and ESPN cuz this this is incredible how much they tip toeing and backpedaling on this. It’s stupid. 2 years in a row they made dumb picks. You had a thousand yard rusher then you draft Bijon… this year pay a QB 100mil coming off an Achilles injury another dumb move….then draft a QB number 8 who wasn’t even a number 8 talent and no one had in the top 10.