Understanding the Traditional Muay Thai Stance & Strategies
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Here is a breakdown using many of Jongsanan's teachings and strategies to understand the traditional Muay Thai stance and techniques. We cover how to stand, where your feet should be, how to block punches and kicks, and how to set up knees and enter the clinch.
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your stance and footstep is really good.
greeting from Thailand.
Thank you! Sawatdee khap!
fightTIPS go ne chi wa
max roy - close range means clinch and elbows, knees. boxing would get owned by muay thai
max roy not only in close range would you cop elbows and knees, but most western muay thai fighters have strong boxing stances aswell and can switch between the two, also a thai fighter would try prevent you from getting close with teeps and round kicks, as soon as close range comes they would clinch a boxer and go for knees, also when a boxer pivots on their front foot to jab or hook the thai fighter would drop a huge leg kick, to destroy your opponent go for the supports...
+msx roy Well, boxing inside fighting doesn't work in muay thai, plain and simple. Trying to peekaboo mike tyson style a muay thai fighter isn't the best idea you can have, because of knee and elbows. Thai fighters know boxing, hell, some of them are even boxing world champions, samart payakaroon is a wbc world champion for example. Yet none of them really do boxing footwork or employ boxing tactics, because they simply aren't designed to work in a fight with clinch, elbows and knees. They are fully aware of their existence, but they don't do it. Thais who know enough boxing to be the best boxers in the world don't use standart boxing tactics in muay thai fights. This should tell you something
You got me at "Sagat from Street Fighter"
hahah perfect
+fightTIPS who is jongsang?
Not me. Actually I was waiting for Bruce from Tekken :c
XNight0HawkX lol
No, Adon
I would love to take Muay Thai. I always thought it was the best striking in mixed martial arts. I took Jiu Jutsu when I was younger it taught me a lot about discipline and respect
I use to do Kyokoshin kai karate, but it never gave me what i wanted. Karate is very much a sport where you show your skills, a ballet sport if you like. Muay Thai is way more physical and the techniques very effective and not just to "show off".
A karate fighter wont have a chance ( or very little) againts a Muay Thai at the same level.
@@bjornnylander8754 yeah karate really isn’t pressure tested enough, most karate dojos don’t even spar
Nak MUAY THAI is FUN TO LERN!!!THANKS SEAN!!!🙏👍👊
@@NightcrawlerNC if u can find a dojo that pressure tests it then your golden
@@bjornnylander8754 really? Even kyokoshin was ballet like? They're normally really hardcore
i started muay thai 2 weeks ago and its a very intersting martial art
Stick with it! It's a grueling, but extremely rewarding journey.
Shane's right, mate. been doing Muay Thai since grade school, have done some tournaments before retiring a little of an injury (Win/loss- 7/1), and i'm planning on doing a little more, like teaching Muay Thai for example or continue tournaments, and i've gotten my younger brother who is in grade school to take classes with tournament fighters and trainers, and what i can say and agree with is that it is a very demanding art. and a good student who learns well is also one who is humble when learning the thai art because of how devastating Muay thai is, and how dangerous if used over the line. It is very demanding, and very interesting, especially the siamese cultures and traditional history of Muay thai back in Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. Muay Thai is the best, but remember that no art can be compared. They are all the best in their own ways. Don't give up on Muay Thai. Many people do, to be honest, but it is very rewarding. It can change people's lives and views, even. Turn someone with a mountain high ego into a humble spirit, even. It is, after all, an ancient and traditional art. Learn how to use it, and do not give it up, no matter how intense it may get for you. It is all worth it, mate.
fightTIPS do you play street fighter 5 😏😏
i started 2 years ago...still interesting. keep going and you will be a weapon.
I too started this year after a lay off from it. how did you guys stick with it? was it just on passion? or a goal to fight? i get discouraged because im out of shape and feel my technique is horrible but i dont want to give up. you guy ever have that?
I've been practicing Muay Thai for about 4-5 years and my stance is still more boxer-esque than Muay Thai, so this was actually helpful. My coach is quite a bit shorter than me but he also never taught me the proper stance since I already seemed to have a fighter's stance, but because I'm tall and kinda lanky, the boxer's stance doesn't cover as much of me and also I realize now is the reason why I could rarely land kicks and always struggled to check off my front leg. Thanks for the vid!
How can you be doing it 5 years and your coach never corrected your stance??????
After 5 years it took a video on UA-cam 😂😂😂
@@kenboslice8031 dont be a dickhead
im glad you got it corrected keep grinding!
5 years and you have a hard time checking kicks? BRUH
Annie leonhardt from attack in Titan uses Muay Thai
damn.. I didn't know. no wonder she's a beast
I was happy af to find that out haha
Ah I see you too are a man of culture
Lol I was gonna say that this explains why she is a monster
Wow, I didn't notice. You smart
Muay Thai is such a deadly art. You don't wanna eat one of those knees or elbows. Absolute murder weapon.
Ever heard of wrestling?
Wrestling my A$$ just jujitsu. Is just laying on your opponent in positions just jujitsu is actually gonna hurt you
@@jameswagnet6583 Someone has clearly never wrestled
@@cumknightgael9505 Wrestling as in WWE? I don't think so. Wrestling as in the fighting style? eh, it's mostly just malnutritioned buds struggling.
@@saucegaming285 train both or atleast learn some takedown defence.. I'd do atleast a bit pf boxing g for head movement footwork etc muay Thai to be a beast and some ju-jitsu wrestling judo etc for throws groundwork etc or that's my plan anyway haha
Muay thai has the coolest stance
Jeff Kha I love Muay Thai but the stance is ugly as fuck
@@tombrady114 Nah it's really cool, Muay Thai moves are so smooth
@@tombrady114 boxing stance is the coolest one
Jeff Kha it has that savage video game ish stance its cool
I hate it
extra points for Sagat comment ! Tigeeer-uppercut !
Haha exactly. Look up the fighter "Dieselnoi" -- very video game-like style.
The King!
can you make more muay Thai techniques video ? thank you
David Sith that's not a Mauy Thai move btw I hate Street Fighter for that lol
Tiger shot is also not a real move. Pretty sure no style of karate teaches hadoken either. T'is a game, bruh, a game.
I've wanted to start learning muay thai for a few years since seeing Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple. I fell in love with its form and grappling, the brutal strikes you can get from forcing an enemy's body into a knee or surprising them close range with a vicious elbow strike... It's a terrifyingly brutal martial art that looks just as brutal as it really is.
I'm literally watching Kenichi right now. 😂
sawpaing from kengan ashura got me interested in leithwei
@@peemaster-uu9qoNah, learn muay thai. You're here to learn self defense not how to get parkinsons because of continuous head trauma.
I never knew marching band was so violent.
Honestly, one of the most intense leg workouts ive done was during high school at a military marching band. I lost 25 pounds in less than a month. Then after that I started getting into fitness and then into muay thai and some others
Nyalan did you happen to be playing the Rusty Trombone? 🤔
@@philipaurea1869 I think he’s more of a skin flute man.
At last someone who gets the traditional stance. Being a Muay Thai fighter for 14 years its the first time that I watch someone who doesnt combine kick boxing and Muay Thai. Well done Mate.
This was exactly the kinds of drills i was looking for! I come from a traditional karate and boxing background and just started studying Muay Thai and BJJ. Ill definitely take these drill to the gym and hopefully upload videos on my training progress! You the man Shane!
Hey man, im brazilian and holy shit, this little details make a lot of difference. Know that your videos make influence and difference even on brazil. You're helping me a lot!
I have done MT for about 7 weeks now , and your videos are honestly the best! . So great , and i love the way you break down , and explain both the WHY and HOW which i sometimes miss in group lessons . Love this channel!
Still doing it?
Shane I've been watching fighttips for about 3 years now dude, and I gotta say yoibhave never disappointed. I'm always trying out the things that you teach. keep up the badass work man
Awesome. I like the part about the high guard. I always thought it was a bad idea to leave the ribs exposed, but now I know it can be used as bait to catch and counter. Thanks, Shane.
@Picogram The two comments you guys posted, are proof positive that you need to adapt to the situation. It hadn't occurred to me that a shorter fighter (I'm 6'1") could come in "under the wire", & nail my ribs like that. Thanks for pointing that out.
I've always had a great deal of respect for your tips, and so far this is the one where I learned the most. I've done American Kenpo Karate for 20 years and only 2 years ago I decided to mix it up with other martial arts. Your videos have really helped me accept and understand many formerly alien concepts. Congratulations and keep it up
Fantastic video Shane! This is probably the best you've ever released. Footwork and stance. Thanks for passing on Jongsanan's valuable knowledge.
I have a background in karate, and just learning the Muay Thai stance I can already see its effectiveness
Great short video, man!
Hell yeah dude, my brother has trained me in muay thai my whole life without stepping into a training arena but these moves and stances make me more confident in actually going into professional training! Thanks man, keep it up and good on you :)
great video. Shane, you're by far one of the few (if not only) person who does the 'What, Why, How' in a non bs, clear, straight to the point manner. Learn a lot from your vidz. thanks buddy.
Thanks for those tips. I do Shotokan karate and your techniques are very applicable to Okinawan karate- especially the kicks. I appreciate your lesson!
Yo thank you so much for your channel and all that you do my dude. Big appreciation your way.
I'm just barely getting into teaching myself some fighting basics as I'm finding myself more and more passionate about self protection; I find your videos invaluable and I can't thank you enough for all you do here! Definitely subbed and I can't wait to go on this journey with your assistance 🙏🔥 blessings your ways always fam
I finally took the courage! Tomorrow is my first Thai class and I’ve always been so insecure with myself because of my weight. I have very skinny arms so it looks super weird/awkward when I launch punches. Wish me luck
How did it go for you?? I have the same insecurity because I look a little frail
@@bunnyotaku777Bro just join a class nothing will happen people will be friendly to you
@@bunnyotaku777 Took my first class on Friday a few days ago and man it was so fun. I've also always been pretty skinny, 5'8 135 lbs but its not like anyones gonna mention it lol. Just focus on yourself and your technique. Guys at my gym were super friendly and helpful so it was a good experience, just go for it man
@@TheKevinj30
1. That isn't changing insecurities. Be nice. You're literally the person they're worried about.
2. Martial arts is expensive.
I’m here because of Annie Leonhart from Attack on Titan she inspired me to protect myself
yeah same! im literally the same height as her (153 cm which is around 5'1"). Muay Thai is good but I will say that if you're aiming for fighting/defending yourself, it would never go wrong to crosstrain in several martial arts.
@@esthershih5575 wtf 153 how old are you?
@@yauol am 16. I’m a girl lol my family is just cursed with short genetics.
@@esthershih5575 I'm 16 and 180 the shortest I've seen the same age as me face to face was 157 so you're a rare breed be proud of it lul.
yes
Great job, someone finally broke down what and more important why the MT stance is what it is as well as why one steps into a kick or knee.
Just started a Muay Thai class. First couple lessons idk if I was doing the stance correctly because the coach wasn’t really correcting me so this helps a lot
I really appreciated this one! i've been practicing muay thai and have been having a hard time on my stances and kicks. can you do more of muay thai vids?
I've been wanting to get into martial arts for a wile and I started practicing the basics of Muai Thai. I have felt that my form and stance could use a bit of work and this video helps a lot. Thanks Shane.
dude, this is so helpful. Corrected some of my form for kicking. Thank man, awesome videos.
Dude, your videos are nice! They saved my life a few weeks when school started. Some guy tried to get in a fight with me when they thought I was trying to spread rumors when I didn't say crap! I do Taekwondo and boxing (Which sorta is like muay thai), and when we started fighting I made sure he hit me first before I fought back. The teachers and some people knew I took Martial arts so for a few seconds they stood back. I freaken caught that idiot with a calf kick and then a roundhouse to the stomach and he was down for the count! I ended up getting no suspension because they knew it was an act of self-defense and I told them what happened and they let me go! I also got a congrats from my friends for beating him. Thanks a million!
Big 🧢
yeah good job kirito
Legend😂 u smart for letting him make the first move
Everytime I let them take the first shot I still got OSS. Pretty sure it's most school policies to give both students ISS or OSS for physical confrontation.
S.P.A
0:20 - So nice to know that after all these years, Street Fighter is still being mentioned.
TIGER!
Can you teach us to do a Tiger Uppercut? XP
I'm a Savate fighter, and I approve! (Bringing the knee up the side (standing oblique) is highly underrated. We use the move almost constantly. Keep checking those kicks/body shots!)
This is timeless instruction... the content and form you present is clear; on point and understood. Thank you for sharing this knowledge.
Started taking a full MMA course and Muay Thai is on the schedule but I really didn't know anything about it and my instructor seems to be confused as to why I was in his class. This video really helped me understand a bit more about this unique martial art, thank you.
This is so helpful! I've just started training and this explains the stance so well! thank you, subscribed
This was so enlightening! Love the channel Shane! I know you have a TKD background so would it be possible for you to maybe do a video on a TKD / Karate stance and how to modify it for MMA? Keep up the great content!
Hey Shane, I started following your videos way back to attempts learning how to fight. But I really enjoy your recent content on the insights and better understanding of different martial arts and fighting styles. I would love to see you analyze more of them.
You are looking lean & strong, brother. You've clearly got a great synergy with your physical training regimen, keep up the great work.
Shane. How to defend against killer clowns? Please I'm scared.
Become a clown. Only defense against them.
nicholas chang get a gun
Fuck them up and Stockton slap their asses ! 🖕👊💪
Well this may get them angry and hurt you even more but if you value your dignity, spit one in the eye, knee him in the balls and drag him by the hair scraping his face through the cement, dirt and other rough surface on the ground you're both standing on until he doesn't look like a clown anymore. But yeah...give it try and tell me how it went and how they reacted.
LOL GUN FU😂
You're going to make a badass teacher
Thank you shane! Your videos are a good preparation for me before I start my muay thai class.
Your vids have gone to another level lately. Great info well explained. Nice work!
Very good video as always Shane (Even tho this is a old video haha) One thing my trainer taught me (he is a retired pro fighter from Thailand) is when we check kicks, we keep the elbow on the outside of the knee, while connected to the kneecap, cause if you have the elbow on the inside of the kneecap, the opponent can kick your arm/elbow into your own ribs. It is a pretty good tip, hope someone here can benefit from it😊🙏🏼
Good tips. I used too have bad habits of not kicking horizontally.....until my opponents elbow and the top of my foot met and that was the end of it for a couple months. I used this same technique to create that muscle memory 👍
Awesome lesson! Another one for check kicking is what my coach called the submarine kick. Get your opponent to leg check at the midline, then kick under the check to the opposite leg.
Your technique is art man. Thank you for these videos.
When he kicks you, you grab his leg, you can use the elbow to repeat over his knees to destroy his weapon.
that sounds brutally effective at dealing with someone who is a little too kick-happy, thanks for the tip
DISCLAIMER: DON'T DO THIS WHILE SPARRING
Are you suggesting to snap his knee with a down forced elbow to his knee while grabbing it with the other hand?
Or you can put pressure on the leg (if you do it the right way) and break it.
@@salemzeid4437 yes, thats what hes saying
that was actually really smart, ive never thought of checking a teep lol
Everytime I tune in I learn something new, thank you!
Good basic training. And nice fundamental wisdom behind it. I'll take this to the gym today and focus on this. Well done Shane
Can you make a video about different ways you can use the Muay Thai leg kick, like your advanced punches video?
Also in the video it looks like your hips are out of alignment. Maybe you should check that out?
Youre not a doctor.
great lessons......
Your videos at the best source for fight science. Thanks Shane
Discovered Muay Thai too late in my life to compete...started at 40...boxing, karate, judo, jujitsu, kempo in my youth...a little wing chun & tai chi in my old age lol....but it's been incredible...not in bad shape for a 53 year old.
I was very impressed with everything up until about 4:08 when you had your elbow inside your knee during your check a kick example.. Elbow should always be on the outside of the knee when checking kicks.
Mitch T makes sense, the force of the kick would have an easier way pushing the arm if it's not pushed back by the leg.
Mitch T Yes good eye, I just posted the same comment and then seen yours.
Mitch T q
Correct
I think it was the camera angles at 4.08. When the view was straight on the elbow was on the outside
3:33 understood "kicking horrorzombiely" the first time xD
nice video, keep up the good work.
I'm going to start taking Muay Thai. I was inspired by some friends to get into it and i have my first lesson in a couple days. Watching your videos has helped give me a jump start before my first training session 🔥🔥
Studying up before a first class free tonight, and my primary had always been boxing with that side stance. Definitely using that chair, thank you Shane!
My background is in TKD, but I've always used a high guard like this and I bring my front leg up if someone is coming at me. Requires a bit of balance but is nearly impenetrable! I don't think it's a proper technique in any style but works rather well. Keeps the ribs/lower body well protected. Obviously I don't hold that position, just use it when needed.
Thanks for the knowledge!!
shit
+suu nhi I think this would work great in a gloved fight!
i like martial
This has got to be one of the beat videos I have ever seen on this topic
Well done and you earned a subscriber
Awesome video man, I'm going switching from amateur boxing to muay thai and this is helpful in figuring out bladed vs square approaches.
I'm a Thai people. Since I was kid I learned about historical from school. The Muay Thai material art was made for survival and killing. Cause long ago Thailand wasn't one. We were groups of people in many city. Sometimes we had to fight for protecting people from thift ,wars etc. And that time Thai's weapons had just double swords , bamboo hands shields , axes ,etc. Mainly we use 2 hands weapons so any of that is base of Muay Thai. So in my opinion Muay Thai stance first priority is guard themselves then counter attack. That's all. And actually Muay Thai we have many styles such a Muay Thai Shiya(มวยไชยา) , Muay Korat(มวยโคราช) , Muay lobpuri (มวยลพบุรี).
Teeraporn Poonsup real muay thai came from Boran/ Bokator right
I really enjoy watching krabi krabong. The traditional sword and staff fighting techniques of the classical Thai warrior.
@@SoPoroLOL Muay Boran is for Kill, not for sport. It's illegal in Thailand.
@@SoPoroLOL boran =ancient in thai not bokator
Annie brought me here. :)
Me 2 bruh me 2
i literally use the term "get off of the train tracks" all of the time with my students. nice video great instruction
Perfect explanation. Clean style , no frills and essential
Shane can you plz Share more of your fight stories?? (The last one was 2 y/o)
I just started muay thai today. I never fell in love so fast with something before.
How is it going man?
How are you doing
wow that was the most useful fighting vid ive ever watched in my life !!! thanks a lot we really apreciate.
Thanks for the video! This has helped my stance quite a bit. Muay Thai was very confusing at first b/c of experience with traditional boxing, but this year its starting to click.
That was a great video Shane. Keep doing the great work.
Incredible content!
Wow thanks Hunter!
figth tips i found a book a year ago it said muaythai i didnt seem like muaythai is there an ancient muaythai?
Angela Fernandez the ancestor of muay thai is called muay boran
AWESOME definitely improved my game, thanks for all your videos man!
im glad this is in my recc section, it all started with a school fight i ended up in cuz some senior was being an asshole and my therapist said to practice martial arts, we couldnt find any nearby muay thai dojos so i went to a diff dojo that teaches mma type stuff but then christmas comes and my grandmother gotten me a muay thai book by Kru Tony Yuan, AKA Anthony Yuan the Muay Thai fighter lol but getting that book inspired me to train outside of the dojo and i just try finding all the help i can get to train in muay thai at home
I'm a 13 year old female learing muay thai thank you for this very informitive
Okay
Okay?
{Flarem} what’s wrong snowflake? Triggered by someone saying they’re female?
Bigga Burns I wasn’t triggered you dumbass SJW shithead. I never said anything about being female and I never was triggered. Go to school you fucktard shit.
@@oyuk4618
I disagree with Bigga Burns on many levels, but why are you so aggressive?
self defense for the underdogs 👌!!!
Great video man. I will be using these drills in my own training as well as with my clients. Keep posting great content!!!
4:01 - strategies on how march stance works
Why the hips are squared and the elbows are high - for baits
4:30
4:48 the attacks that people will throw
5:01 checking
5:10 roundhouse kicks to the body
5:26: catching roundhouse kicks
5:38 attacks to the face
Parrying, trap hands and clinching
This is just for me, I do reccomend watching the full video, as its good to understand the explanations.
You can use it too :D
reminds me of sanji black leg he does diablo his stance is like that
best Fighter haircuts?
The skinhead
or a Mohawk
longhair haircuts
Guile, duh
mullet😂
I really enjoyed this video along with your others. I've been doing tkd for 29yrs and I started Muay Thai this year. I'm headed to Tiger Muay Thai in Feb.
Really helpful vid. I am working on cleaning up my stance and the reasons you give as to why I want to keep the squared stance is very motivating. thanks!! 😉
Can you do a. Video on how to beat an opponent with more power, not necessarily bigger
azzy mazzy hit harder yes
I wanna know 2
Tru Champion I think it would depend if youre talking about beating them in fight where u can win with points or if its a street fight
chu kah tell me in a streetfight please.
Being smarter more technique countering and keeping distance with the front kick
teach us the Dempsey roll
Thank you very much for the explanation. Your videos always help a lot to also focus on the details of the technique.
Thank you man, made it so simple to understand and remember !
50% came for sagat
50% from Annie Leonhardt
Me: GAOLANG
I like all the muay thai characters from videogames
Sagat, adon, shura, samchay,
hwa jai, joe higashi
And the real ones like Reiba
The dark lord of muay thai
I am just starting this from scratch. Very informative information. You can always learn from others. Well done
One of your best videos yet!
can u do a self defense on killer clowns??
watch his older videos
Alex Antunes he has one
Run
Yes you can I do it
Fire is the only defense as it is the only thing able to send the clown back to hell where clowns come from.
I Hope Tony Jaa will remember this
Very solid stancing and easy and informative tips. Keep up the great teaching!
Some of these are my reflexes and everytime this guy threw a gut punch I caught a parried it and now I'm going to try to master this... Thank you
Freakin love these videos, I am making a huge list of them to put together a routine. Question I always struggle with - How do ya get power into a lead leg roundhouse without switching the stance? Sanshou uses it in the most devastating way - left lead kick to the opponents inner leg, unbalance and then deliver a left hook. Knocks them over every time and works especially well if the guy just threw a right hand. I just cant get power into the kick!
Wireline Turn your hips with the kick
Novaria I get that, but you also need to turn the right leg too (orthodox stance) or you lock out the knee. I struggle getting the whole 'body chain' moving to get power and balance right
Wireline Ah
I find hopping to be really effective when I'm trying to throw a lead leg roundhouse. I actually love lead leg roundhouses because they let me kick the inside of my opponent's thigh so it's definitely worth practicing, most of the time you're not going to be aiming to kick as hard as if you were to kick with your rear leg but if you were to go for a higher shot (Like the ribs) I tend to hop as I pivot my foot to give myself more explosive movement when I throw the kick.
OPEN QUESTON: for some reason i can't connect with traditional martial arts. i really adore boxing , kickboxing and bjj. but i can't connect with wing chun, karate kung fu. is that a problem?
"i really adore boxing , kickboxing and bjj."
Hey, me too!
"but i can't connect with wing chun, karate kung fu."
I like karate, but even that (as I was taught it) is a mix of several different things, including some non-Asian boxing and kickboxing. I can't say much for "kung fu" as that's a really generic term that can cover pretty much any Chinese martial art. Things like Wing Chun tend to have some drills and concepts you can use, and a handful of techniques/moves that come in handy in some situations. Taken purely on their own, they usually seem obsolete and don't apply to realistic situations well.
"is that a problem?"
No, just use what works for you. I think the real problem is tradition. Some martial arts are strictly practiced the same way for hundreds of years, and the students are taught not to deviate from the old ways. This, I feel, is unwise. The old masters may have been great, but they weren't perfect. New styles evolve or come in from foreign countries and the old masters may not have anticipated those changes. Even changes in fashion or climate can affect things - for example, moves that require the enemy to wear a jacket may have worked fine in Japan in the 1800s, or in cold countries, but not in a fight on the beach in Brazil. Use the most up-to-date martial arts that fit your natural inclinations, and try to fill gaps so there's no area where you're just going to lose right away (e.g. "I can wrestle but I can't handle people who punch").
great breakdown, what are you training right now? and yeah it should evolve and update.
***** Right now I'm training in Judo and BJJ and teaching/training an American (or "mixed") karate system. My main focus is practical application, so we do a lot of controlled-contact MMA-style sparring in order to find the holes in our skill set and patch them up.
Richard Hinckley kung-fu works fine in street application. as a bouncer, I use it and muay thai regularly. usually, people who say that have not actually worked applications or broken the forms down into drills, what you would call bunkai. that being said, there ARE a few styles that were created mainly to combat specific fighting styles, but once the concept of a technique is understood, you can train to apply it anywhere.
the "problem" with Chinese styles is that they tend to take longer to gain proficiency. this is an intentional flaw.
thaiboxer5
"the "problem" with Chinese styles is that they tend to take longer to gain proficiency. this is an intentional flaw."
The measure of an educational program's merit is its efficiency at converting a student's time and effort into proficiency. Saying that Kung Fu doesn't do this, but it's an "intentional" flaw does not change that you are saying Kung Fu is a bad martial art, where students have to put in more time/effort to be on par with students in other arts.
Being slower can be OK. But only if the result is better. For example, Krav Maga takes people from zero skill to reasonable effectiveness in a few months, whereas Karate styles take a few years. But after four to six years, the Karate students end up better, because they front-loaded their training with the building of better fundamentals. This delays them becoming effective fighters, but they do catch up. However, Kung Fu is not shown to do that. Even at the highest levels, Chinese systems/stylists do not appear often, and the ones that do (e.g. Cung Le) are usually using modernized versions of those systems with training methods that look much more like the de facto standard stuff, such as Muay Thai.
"kung-fu works fine in street application. as a bouncer, I use it and muay thai regularly. usually, people who say that have not actually worked applications or broken the forms down into drills, what you would call bunkai."
I'm sure it does, but using it as a bouncer isn't really helpful as an example, because bouncers are not fighting against good opponents. A bouncer's opponent is usually:
1. Smaller than the bouncer.
2. Outnumbered.
3. In a mentally altered state.
4. Untrained.
5. Tactically out of position from the start (e.g. surrounded) of the encounter.
I think as a bouncer you could use almost any martial art. You could probably not even study a martial art, and just use the martial arts training time for lifting weights instead, relying on strength rather than skill. I don't know, I'm not a bouncer, and you say you are. I know some bouncers, but like I said, I'm not one, so correct me if I'm way off base here and you're actually fighting skilled people in a "fair fight" scenario where the quality of your training matters.
From former Muay Thai practitioner.....your knees have solid form, man... and your so do your roundhouses...really impressive
Hey, Shane, brilliant tutorial as always, keep them coming, brother!