Simple Minds Rockpalast Cologne Germany 1982
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Simple Minds live at Rockpalast in Germany 06.06.1982 this show was part of the sons & fascination tour and is one of my favourite shows that I have in my video collection I hope all my fellow simple minds fans enjoy this one :0)
This show is available in 720p HD
New Gold Dream (Intro) (0:00)
Love Song (3:26)
Changeling (10:33)
Thirty Frames a Second (14:56)
Premonition (20:26)
Sweat in Bullet (26:50)
Promised You a Miracle (31:42)
King is White and in The Crowd (36:26)
I Travel (43:27)
Celebrate (49:27)
The American (56:16)
Sons and Fascination (1:02:44)
Room (1:13:15)
Promised You a Miracle (encore) (1:22:32)
I swear the bass is always perfect during this era of their music 😌
The golden era of Simple Minds! The Newcastle show is epic too.
The sound from Mick MacNeil on keyboards is awesome, he made Simple Minds big in the 80's. When he left the band in 1990, street fighting years album being his last tour. Jim and Charlie were gutted because they knew they lost the heart of the band, basically they knew he was unreplaceable!. Charlie took 9 years to actually forgive Mick and it shows why when you listen and watch how talented he actually was. Watch his left hand and on timing in Celebrate, constantly throughout the song his repertoire is 100 % perfect as well as using his right hand for additional cords. Today as i listen to Simple Minds they just don't seem to have it like they did back then. Jim and Charlie should restart back over, dump the band members except Mel Gaynor on drums. Bring back Mick MacNeil and Derek Forbes on bass guitar, concentrate on the old style music. I think the die hard fans would be more than welcome to see this happen!!!
I don't fully agree. In my opinion all the band members complete each other. Mel very tight drumming, Mick beautiful atmospheric sound scapes, Derek haunting bass riffs, Charlie not the worlds best guitar player but very effective melodies and Jim the perfect glue between these guys. I personally like the band before the Don't you forget about me period. Very obscure and interesting music. This fear of Gods is a personal favorite of mine and Hunter and the hunted after all these years still one of my favorite songs ever. It's magical to me :-D
Michael MacNeil etait l'âme des minds ce sue Jim n a jamais compris !
slashingblade1968 1000% agreed Derek and Mick were the root, the synth and bass sounds, avantgarde dark new wave sounds it was made them so special, the y were extremly advanced- Mick should be conisered a genius and derek as well. Really. Anyway- 80s was the BEST.
+slashingblade1968
The fact that I have every piece of vinyl released in the UK up to and including Real Life indicates how much influence I think Mick had on the band's sound.
I can't get into the post Real Life stuff at all, sounds very contrived and over produced.
yes, indeed. . . if they just get Forbes and MacNeil to make some music with them again. . . It was only years later i began to understand how much truly Great music was lost - never recorded, never written - when those 2 left the band. . .
i'm a fan on keybards of Mac Neil and bass on Forbes but the elettric guitar of Burchill is fantastic ...
Als Simple Minds Fan der 80er habe ich diese wahnsinnige Energie in den Konzerten immer erleben dürfen..immer wieder traumhafte Improvisationen der Songs..leider viel zu wenig Videos von den Konzerten in den Frühjahren bis zur zur Sparkle in the Rain Tour ....Kultstatus..i love it!
King is white è spettacularis, Jim's voice amazing 💕 🙌 Derek and MacNeil superb
The best period before becoming mainstream.
At the peak of their powers! Amazing performance!!
Room é un brano stupendo. In questa esecuzione magistrale diventa un brano epico. Questi sono stati davvero dei Musicisti (M Maiuscola!)
I love the "Sons and Fascination tour! It is one of my favorites; especially the song, Sons and Fascination. A good listen each day for a little rev. :) TX for the share!
Che tristezza.
Sono vecchio.
Anni 80 mi uccidete di malinconico piacere.
Fantastic gig. Sounds raw and brilliant, often better than the 'produced' sound on the albums. Takes me back!
Room is excellent performed - best version so far- sound Mixer finally found the right knobs -
I have a suspicion that the majority of bands performing on 'Rockpalast' didn't bring their own sound guy back then; I've watched so many gigs where the sound is just horrible, with the wrong instruments being turned up during solos, etc. The mix during this show's first song's got to be the worst one I've heard so far! 😬
Indeed. Rockpalast had a bad reputation. At pinkpop soundmixers were invited to do the soundmix for television. Because that is a different mix than the one in the hall.
@@mightyV444 yes, the worst live video of them i've seen , I thought McNeil was absent when the first song started
O, Premonition!!! Haven''t heard this in so long. Tantalizing intro... those baselines! I love, love, love this song. This was their best period. What an awesome concert!
Derek Forbes PResident
Cool how they had this yet unreleased version of New Gold Dream and played it as an instrumental intro.
It was digitally remastered back in 2016 for the NGD Deluxe Box Set , sadly left out due to disc time restrictions.
Mitico e stupendo live ..
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!
Awesome live performance. They were really a F... great rock band.
this was the best time because they were still integrating the weird industrial funk stuff into the set whilst introducing New Gold Dream tracks
Many thanx for uploading! A big Simple Minds fan from Belgium
Senza Mick e Derek non sono più i Simple Minds.
My favourite gig of theirs to watch on YT. AMAZING. Jim Kerr gives such a mesmerising performance. The band were tight too! Yeah, there's the odd technical problem...but that's what happens. I was 11 years old at the time of this gig, and living in Australia. If I could have a TARDIS to use...I'd go to this gig (and several other early SM gigs). I'd be made up!
@TheChelseaGirl I’m still dreaming! Lol 😁
Man do I love the "big" version of 'Room'
Spettacolarissimi tempi incredibili!
Breathtaking, astonishing and ABSOLUTE SIMPLE MINDS 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍
Perfect! That's exactly how my Ma' described Simple Minds as being perfectionists before any show.
The first years where their best as they made such an amazing cool new wave-indie-style art of music. I love this period of them most. This was their best era and it is very underrated. Most people only know "Don´t you" and "Alive and Kickin´".
I've managed to recorded it on tape at that time...:-) Still awesome!
I like how Jim dances ,Derek is big
the best band ever ....number one.....beeeeeeeest..
Sorry to burst your bubble but Dire Straits can't be matched in my opinion...Minds are great too..different styles different sounds..but Knopfler can't be touched as a lead guitarist song writer he is magic
Roger Sandelin Difference is that Dire Straits have 3-4 good songs. Simple Minds has over 10 good songs.
Wonderful times.
Would be great if they released a live album of this show or another one with such a fine set list
Yes, indeed.
Definitive version of 'Room'. Go listen again and this time turn it up.
Loving the keyboardist
Wow... sometimes i foget how great Bands were when they started.
but this is a long way from the start...5th album new gold dream
I absolutely LOVED the Ogletree-driven Minds, their music was running smooth like a motorway. Then Mel Gaynor came on and they released the dogs.
Mel came and was the best drummer in the world for a while. Pure stadium sound. Awesome.
Well, yeah, when you're into stadiums of course. I like my drums a tad more subtle, but to each their own. Mel sure helped them gain a broader audience, which is cool.
+mantra3000 Ogletree work on sons and fascination is thrilling indeed.
Totally. Plus his drumming worked so well with Derek's bass playing.
Gaynor's a capable drummer no doubt, but his over-egging with Simple Minds is symptomatic of their decline into just another rock band.
And thankyou Craig for posting!!!
New Gold Dream.....Best from Simple Minds!!!
I've seen a lot of great Rockpalast clips, but I've never seen this. Very raw for Simple Minds. Someone compared my band Paint and Copter's song/video Miyako to Simple Minds and I was shocked. Always wanted to cover Premonition. Maybe we will.
WOW!!!! All of my favoutite songs : I travel, Celebrate, Sweat in Bullet, Love Song and Changeling....
Only one song is missing : This fear of Gods
That would made it perfect
Best band ever And most sympathical singer EVER thank you Jim Kerr for being one of the musical highlights in my life
my favourite songs too, also the American and theme for great cities
Room is epic
New Gold Dream wasted at the beginning one of their best songs..!
3 months before the album was released
Love premonition
Charlie's Guitar and Jim's voice sounds Soooo good together. I'm still streamlining this Music in 2021! That's how good this Band is. It's amazing how Jim almost sounds American, by adjusting his pronunciation! His singing voice and talking accents are different! He's brilliant!
Simple Minds were my 'first' band as a 15 year old. As an adult with a bit more challenging tastes (for instance maybe my favourite ever song is MBV 'to here knows when') I still think that the albums up to and including New Gold Dream are amazing (not the first though). I have always thought Derek Forbes was a great bassist and love his basslines, along with Hooky. With the benefit of age I have come to realise how lame Jim Kerr is. Reminds me of the Frasier episode with Derek Jacobi.
The benefit of age has not given you a more challenging vocabulary. Case in point: 'lame'.
Tout ce que j aime.....qu elle Talent.....👄❤😻👍💯💯💯🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
Great show
Its been pointed out below that the opening tune was not in fact 'ngd' here - so I hereby christen it Rock-Palast-if I could only beam myself back to this moment 0:17
Inpresionante los 80
...grandes!!
Great rendition of "Sons and Fascination" track !
Sounds so experimental...So cool.....Kids from today would think it is music from nowadays ;-) Only much better......
Ralf Meske kids from today would be offended for the lack of diversity in the band. Only a bunch of whites. Can’t have that...
nice !
Geniussssssssss
Don't forget guys they were young and experimenting
I bet the Minds weren't anticipating sounds problems from Micks keys snd then Jims mic yet again " but stuff happens when you tour!
That bass line in 'Changeling' sounds so, so familiar! And this is the first time I'm hearing that song! 😯
*Edit:* I remembered! There's one in this song that sounds almost the same: ua-cam.com/video/ock2ZGsBIQg/v-deo.html
Wetton definitely nicked that bassline!
@@exegesis67 - He must have! That naughty man! 😄😉
The show really starts with 30 frames a second.
I think they did a line check. No real sound check before.
They're 6 mins in here before Jim starts singing.... Full Jim Morrison mode.
Ca c etais les minds !
wow wow thankyou. The percussion is too quiet though
Imprecionante el sonido
I think this is the New Gold Dream Tour....wish it was from Sons and Fascination.
One band...big performance 80 ..kerr burchil forbes mcneil mcgee artist for music new vawe
instrumental version of New Gold Dream ???
Barbie Chêtif It only existed as an instrumental at this point. They were still recording the album. Jim hadn’t written the lyrics at this point, hence it’s only an instrumental intro to their arrival on stage. Pretty amazing to hear an uncompleted song getting an airing like that. Who would do that these days?
@@lmread7122 I saw them play 28-2-1982 in Rotterdam, 'Promised You a Miracle' was just written/recorded and on the setlist: an unknown song for the audience then. I also seem to remember that they played 'King Is White and In the Crowd' as well as the second new song that night. Not sure if they already used the intro tape that was used at Rockpalast.
It was digitally remastered back in 2016 for the NGD Deluxe Box Set , sadly left out due to disc time restrictions.
The mix is terrible here.
Most of the keyboards are almost inaudible.
Spectacular performance although sound could have been better ... still with analog synths, it sounded great for live. Interesting instrumental version of New Gold Dream which would not be released for another year in 1983.
What u on about New Gold Dream Album was released in 1982...perhaps late 1982...with all three transisition Drummers involved..I am not sure it was released as a single
At the time of this show, they were recording NGD. Promised you came out as a first single.
@@Maguirearch Released as a single in 1983 but only in a few countries, not UK (I know it was in italy). The album and title track were released later in 1982 few months after this gig.
The instrumental version has yet to receive an official release , it still resides in the EMI archives.
It was digitally remastered back in 2016 for the NGD Deluxe Box Set , sadly left out due to disc time restrictions.
Charlie's Guitar is on Fire on this whole Album! Wow ! Smoking! Where there is Smoke there's Fire! Nobody, but Nobody can sing like Jim Kerr! He's so amazing and he mastered the American English Accent! He's a Genius!
Michael Hutchence didn't suck either
I can`t hear the the keyboards and drums .
why did you destroy the 4:3 format?
wrong aspect ratio
Great early footage with songs from Cacophony and Empires and Dance and unusually with Mike Ogletree on drums. However, the guitar is WAAAYYY too loud at the beginning. The first six minutes is like a soundcheck or rehearsal. Surprised the engineer didn't mix this better on the night. Also, this is possibly one of the last of those gigs where they opted for honest representations of the songs rather than the 8 minute long epic versions which became very fashionable once bands reached the stadium-era. Cannot stand Biko etc going on and on.
Bass
I travel is Ghostdancing
Charlie is far too loud in the mix, if anything should be loud it's the bass . 😊
No doubt this style of Simple Minds stuff went down well with Germans...as allot of I guess was inspired by Germans...from Kraftwerk...to 1920s and 1930s German Art culture and Fashion
Maurice Maguire sure- SM were influenced by Krautrock so yeah this was welcome
Kraftwerk shurely not , this simple minds keyboard work sounds human , like a wash of myst across scottish lakes combined with a wall of sound like gary numan , that is how it sounds
should never have sacked Ogletree
The beginning was a bit sketchy
Apologies for the opus but I keep seeing this recurring theme.....this is just one man's opinion. To those turned off by the band going "mainstream", is it a bad thing more people got to hear this band? The progression to me was fairly organic. Remember Brian left because the workload was doing him in. They didn't say "We need a drummer that will take us to number 1 so pack yer bags Brian!!"
As they gained popularity they realized certain songs just don't work in big venues (clubs were better for experimental and funky, festivals, arenas required larger sounds, more anthemic tunes)...enter Mel. Not like they said "we need a drummer who will fill arenas", he was presented as a solution to the problems Mike was having in the studio and now they had a funk drummer with a wallop like no other.
Bands craft songs to take advantage of the strengths of the musicians and it usually just presents itself naturally. They were also a product of their environment, chance put them in festivals with U2 and they saw how the anthems energized those larger crowds. What were they hearing there and on the radio, music programs? A very big sound. Who was helping U2, Big Country, XTC, Furs and Peter Gabriel make those great sounding albums? Why wouldn't you see if Lillywhite could help you put out the sound you were looking for?
Mick's demos already had a larger sound to them and they were trying to get a more live band sound as opposed to the atmospheric precision of NGD. There was also the small problem of people just not buying their records, as good as they are.....still a problem. Reality is reality and record companies are not going to carry you if people won't buy what you're selling, regardless of the word of mouth on how amazing you are on the club circuit. Did they try to satisfy themselves and their growing fan base? Yes, but more on a subconscious level, they make music they like and think/hope others will as well. Nothing wrong with that IMO. Maybe the SM fans who didn't bother to buy the records should assume some responsibility. They were in debt when Virgin took them on. Selling tickets barely put a dent in that kind of debt back then. I bought all their albums the day I heard Love Song in a record store and by fortune, NGD had just come in.
Jim will tell you the problem with SITR was that the side 2 songs hadn't been worked through enough. I love that record, all of it. Apparently John Hughes added it to his already impressive SM record collection and the rest is history. They had already written Alive and Kicking when Forsey approached them and they were excited by the sounds of Let's Dance, Scarecrow, Born in the USA, Learning to Crawl. Only natural for that to seep into what they were doing at the time. I respect that they said "Once Upon A Time is the album we wanted" and Iovine/Clearmountain helped them make it. The fact that a lot of crap makes it to the top doesn't mean all successful tunes are crap, just means that record companies know how to market crap sometimes and people are easily swayed/manipulated.
I think Once Upon A Time is one of the best sounding albums I've ever heard and I don't think Trevor Horn has ever made a bad sounding album, Real Life is a better album than most realize and GNFTNW is a scorcher. I just learned to accept the past is the past and listen to the albums as their own entity, never disappointed.
The live sound during lovesong is shocking. The mix is all wrong. Nae soundcheck beforehand.
Terrible sound mixing!
The Sound is bad at the begginning but does improve
Line check i think. They did no soundcheck. You can tell.
Try to find the recording that was transmitted on Dutch radio, 26 February 1982 in Arnhem (Stokvishal): absolutely a great sound with the fantastic basslines from Derek Forbes.
RockPalast was a great name...but indeed this performance is not their best...I skipped every song by
All these comments on how goo this sounds. The bass is completely out of the mix. It needs to be turned up and Derek Forbes was the best. The vocals are way too loud.
They became U2 after Ogletree left which was was a shame
This was not a good concert. SM is usually great. Too many tech problems .....
You could say Mick left at the top. They soldiered on but have become a bit of a joke now.
Not by the look of the packed out arenas they play to. Mick's alone in his bedroom playing to noone. Shame.
Regrettably I have to agree. Jim to me is becoming the Scottish Tom Jones . But it seems all the great frontmen eventually become cabaret parodies of themselves -a fate pioneered of course by Elvis
Bad mixing, can't listen.
That's when you hire a deaf sound engineer....
excellent perfomance of the band, terrible mixing.
I've watched plenty of live videos of Simple Minds, but for me, this has to be one of their worst
To be honest, the performances of the first two songs were awful. Love song dragged on, and the keyboard on Changeling and Premonition was wretched. The rest was markedly average. They had much better concerts around this time period.
Rather a long lead-in. I fancy the boys are losing their direction.
Simple Minds and Duran Duran used to sound pretty similar.
+Carlos Lima only for those who could not hear
+Carlos Lima mmmmhhhhh
Are you drunk ?
Serious?
I think this is all pretty slack and over-egged. I've heard them miles better, even within weeks of this gig. Mind you, I like their second and third albums mainly.
Jim Kerr, massacre his singing in concert, it's painful, often the public knows his songs better and sings better than him
Simple Minds, later came on stage, he is Jewish.
These boys could barely play. The only proper musician in the band was Mel Gaynor. And as for that entrance! Clothes and hairstyles and endless shit written in the music press were of paramount importance back then.
WTAF?