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Wheelie awesome man! Love seeing new toys and old school.... New toys obviously have some cool stuff I wish we had back then, but it's also hard to beat some old school stuff. May not always be as efficient and flashy, but chances are if taken care of, it'll still work 20 years later and new stuff might too... If the app is still supported and all 🤣 (for those new fangled things that use apps to get to functions) Have a great day y'all!!
Audio control is by far my favorite brand. It could be because I’m biased as their facility is about an hour from my house but I choose to believe it’s because they are arguably the highest quality brand in the game and have been for decades
You get a high quality product for what you pay. There a company that's not out there to rip you off and want to give you a quality product for the dollar. I also feel like they will be around for a long time
I honestly believe that Audio Control makes the best amps, and over engineers their product line for noobs like me. I have an amazing 4 channel. American 🇺🇸 company that produces a quality electronic product in America. Seldom seen! Thanks Williston, and thank Audio Control.
JL Audio is pretty much decayed due to the fact of their overpriced big-headed concept there's still a few people running their subwoofers but that's about it.. .
That's a good design. Tightly regulated and properly rated. There's a reason why they don't guarantee 1 ohm capability. The amp's power supply and output transistors need to have adequate capacity for the unexpected (i.e. reactive loads) so they don't let out the magic smoke. Relying on so called protection circuits isn't the answer as well. Yes there needs to be protection against catastrophic failure as well as fusing but these are safety measures and only spring into action when needed! Notice too, a good amp barely if at all shows a peep out of the red distortion LED until the amp reaches its limit and the waveform is no longer a nice round sine wave. Lesser designs splatter and do all sorts of nasty stuff while still racking up watts. Which one would you rather listen to? ;-) Not to mention in many installs where the amp is connected directly the driver voice coil (active x-over) there is no protection whatsoever for the driver. Woofers and mid basses are acceptably tolerant but tweeters? Forget about it!
I have the lc 6 1200 , such clean amplifier.. all of the included features make it worth the money. The built in clipping lights are soo helpful setting it up without owning an RTA or other equipment.. running 4 6x9 Pioneer D Series in the doors,, and bridged 5&6 to a 12 inch Kicker CompRT .. sounds awesome.. looking to move the sub to a mono block next, and hook up the dash speakers. saving up the money 💰 the built in channel summing is also awesome. I recommend Audio Control to anyone who can afford it..
I'm having a similar system installed with this same amp. Have the same subwoofer. What ga power wire are you running it with? Will it be fine with 4 ga ofc power wire?
@Chandy the wire guage needed is based on the max amperage that will be required. The LC61200 is fused at 120amps, so as long as your cable run is less than 13ish feet, you should be fine. I ran 4 guage originally, but when I reinstalled in my next truck, I used 1/0 since I plan to run a dedicated monoblock from the same power source. Make sure to have a good fuse close to your battery or alternator wherever you source your power from. In regards to tuning if you're interested.. kicker provides audio test tones you can download, like 40hz, sweeps, pink noise...etc stick with the -5dB versions unless you know or want to know what all that means, Google will help! You first need to find where your head unit clips at ... Disconnect your speakers from the amp make sure the bass knob is turned all the way up for all of this... dont want to blow a speaker while tuning like I did 😶 Play the associated audio track (use headphone jack, not Bluetooth its a cleaner signal) keep turning up the volume on your head unit and look for the MILC light to start flickering, not on solid. This is the maximum you should ever turn your head unit up to. Some high quality headunits wont clip, so you may never see the MILC light come on.. Once that is figured out, play the track again and turn up levels/gains until the Maximized lights on the amp channels start to flicker but are not on solid. In my case I played the pink noise for my door speaker channels ( 1, 2, 3 and 4) and the 40hz for the bridged sub channels( 5 and 6). That should give you a safe tune where you won't blow anything up.. from there I would play the typical kind of music you listen to (with speakers connected) and do some fine adjusting. Main thing is you don't want the MILC or Maximized lights on solid, it's OK if they blink and maybe go solid for a half a second or something. Don't be afraid to call Audio Control tech support if you have questions, they have always been super helpful and spend the time with you answering whatever questions they can. There are some other more technical ways to tune using an oscilloscope or an actual RTA but that depends on how much money you have to spend tuning.. Good luck, you will be very happy, I have had my LC61200 for going on 8 years and have had no problems. High quality stuff!
@djmjr4827 Thanks for your advice! I have a 2019 Toyota Tundra. Installing the infinity kappa components with a 2" midrange makes it a 3 way in the front and coaxial in the rear. Will it be good to use factory speaker wire? Or should I run 16 ga speaker wire to the doors?
Sounded super clean. They definitely make good amps if you can afford it. Wish I would of known they were in my backyard back in high school and college days.
Considering the RCA's are literally BOLTED to the front panel, i would consider them PANEL MOUNT, although they are slightly different designs, that keeps the force off the circuit board quite well. Not a negative, just a different design
I actually grew up a stones throw from their HQ/factory in Kent Wash. (I'm from Puyallup close to there) But they were a pretty small outfit back then.
even with ferrules 1 strand of wire and toast its in a car so you get vibration . for $800 your better off with 4 channel and sub amp . no fans ,no remote ,Yuscon Caps= pass
I've always been a RF fan boy but man Audio Control is going to be seeing some of my hard earned money! Great vid D. AC may not send you another amp after watching the after credits 😂😂😂
Reminds me of my fosgate 600a5 . The fosgate has hp/LP bass boost on all channels so it can be used just for subs. All in one solutions is nice . It's the only 5 channel I have
Hey Big D! Great videos as always! One thing of note about these LC series amplifiers is that they are designed by Robert Zeff and Nikola Engineering! I know you know that name! These are very similar to the Arc X2 series amplifiers. I actually have the LC1200.6 running a 3way fully active front stage and an oldschool Rockford bd1000 on my sub in my car. I can tell you these are extremely clean sounding amps! Thanks again for all you're doing for the car audio community!✌
I'm having a hard time believing this is only a 12awg (2mm²) cable at 4:40. I agree that they should have shosen the outher connections for bridged mode. Eighter way in my opinion the cable size you choose should not expose the wiring so much when correctly connected. Thanks for a great video once again.
I have this amp in my cart to use in my GX460 to run a three way Dynaudio Esotan 372 set and a JL 13.5. I like that I can load up the line level inputs given the GX really has no options other than the stock deck. Plus the small size, and the adjustment functions, should sit under the seat nicely. Thanks for the review, very impressive, and helpful!
Put some Pinkk floyd Welcome to the machine. It tortures many speakers and amplifiers, I know they would probably demonitise your video for doing it but what a good test. Never mind this electronic auto tune crap
On the top cover removal: You don't need to take the back screws out, they are only sort of "hooks" under the lip in the back. The front screws don't need to be fully removed. You unscrew them about halfway and the you lift up the front and slide the cover back to release the "hook" screws in the back. This info is in the owner's manual as well. All of the new Audiocontrol LC and DM amps have the same top cover removal. It's kinda weird. I wish they would have just make actual hooks instead of using screws that way.
yeah would like to see some of the new Cerwin vega Stroker and Stroker pro amps on the dyno, particularly the multichannel ones. i guess they will do very well on the tests.
The price is on the high side. BUT, this is a do-all amp for someone looking to easily power an upgraded factory system without the need for LOC's. What I'd like to see from AudioControl is adapter plugs for factory systems that go directly from the factory amp output to the high level input. It would make this more plug'n'play and appealing to a wider audience.
@@greglatta1 Exactly. For instance, if you're adding this to a factory Alpine system in a Ram/Jeep it'd be nice if they made a jumper that plugged directly in to the output of the factory amp and directly in to the high level input on the AC amp. Save some time of running wires, and it'd be more plug'n'play.
Looks like it was designed to be wired using wire ferrules. In a standard install using ferrules, I doubt there would be any issues with the terminals.
Don't worry guys big d knows what he is doing there's plenty of rise off them 4 subs to get him well over 1ohm, and he's doing music tests on them not tones so he's fine he's well over 2ohms most of the time probably
Thanks for your work ! I want to see a amp dyno of the entry level 5 channel Rockford Prime to see who win the battle with the kenwood and the Pioneer.
Your meant to use wire ends on the speaker outputs. thanks for sharing I used to love AudioControl sounded great till it didn't in November just before the start of covid19 after saving up 2 years at a shop near me they ordered and installed for me a dm-810 dsp , two D-4.800's and lc-1.1500 sub amp 2 sets front Alpine x series 6.5 Component Set rear ALPINE X Series 6x9 Component set and 4 JL AUDIO 10TW3 shallow mounts built in to a custom console that went from front to back now the bad the AudioControl dm-810 started interment shut downs ins inside of 3.5 month by 4.5 it was dead took it back to the installer and AudioControl tells installer it was not bought through one of there dealers more less piss up a rope and next day covid shut down happens and till its over the installer closes shop for good I mean come on AudioControl its the 2020's everything is bought online now the warranty shouldn't matter where its bought from these days if from the USA even after I called my self they never even called me back I boycotted AudioControl at that point its a shame there stuff sounds great but the $800 hit hurt with the way money was then ending up out of work for 4.5 months.. sorry for the rant.. and people buy AudioControl be careful where you buy there there stuff from and make sure its a dealer or they will weasel there way out of there warranty..
Awesome piece of equipment big D. The efficiency is incredible. Considering the price point and the features this amp is definitely designed exclusively for folks with brand new or leased vehicles that have complex factory systems that are difficult to upgrade. I can't think of a reason to use this with an aftermarket head unit since most decent ones all have plenty of EQ & crossovers built in
I had to check the manual, but the crossovers are only 2nd order. Too much mid bass bleed on from the subs for me... surely it couldn't have cost that much more to make (at least) the sub channel x-over 4th order.
I've been looking for an Amp so Really appreciate seeing this information, I would be installing in a pickup and wandered If your tests checks for noise filtering, don't want any alternator noise, lol ?
Curious what your thoughts are when comparing this amplifier to the T1000X5ad? Btw... great videos. I’ve recently got back into Car audio and had a few old Rockford Amps refreshed through some of the original engineers after finding your channel. Thxs for bringing back fond memories.
This is the exact comparison I was wondering about. I'm been trying to decide between these 2 amps. Keep going back and forth between the 2. Did you ever choose one over the other?
@@caraudiocentral I was hoping to get some feedback on this channel but no response as you can see. I’m still debating between the two. I’ve never used AC amplifiers before but still have some of their preamp Stuff from 20 years ago that still sound awesome. Did you decide yet? If so, would you let me know which way you went and why..? Thanks.
@@kevineth100 I haven't decided 100% yet, but leaning more toward the Audio Control. I think mostly just because I want to try something new. But still wish someone would do a comparison between these 2 amps. Would like to see which one performs better.
Where are amplification mosfet inside ??? 5 channel amp has at least 10 mosfet or(12 in subwoofer bridge mode). Is it made by class d IC such as TPA or TAS?? please reply. Thank you.
Tiffany style connectors and attached and secured to the metal plate that they pass through meaning you can push on them all you want and nothing is going to break within reason obviously
The only benefit with buying this amp vs both the LCD 4.800 and LCD 1.800 is the footprint. I own both the others and spent less money than paying for this one.
It will be real interesting to see what Sam @ Barevids thinks about the design. As it's not just a cookie cutter that is in the majority of the market.. Also what sort of load was the amp seeing with wired at 1ohm to the HiQ's ?? As box rise would need to be taken into account.. So it is quite a possibility you could wire it to 1ohm, but the amp might not see the 1ohm load.. Awesome vid as usual :)
Cool amp!! I've never owned any Audio Control car audio amps or crossovers. But I did however purchase one of their Home Theater equalizers and a 1/3 octive spectrum analyzer.
When I saw the price I had to do a double take to make sure I wasn't looking at an old school audio catalog haha. I guess we've just been spoiled with amps at bargain prices for so long.
It looks to be a class D amplifier. Assuming that it is, you’ll likely turn the volume down from ear fatigue well before it goes into thermal shutdown unless you insulate it with a pile of blankets or something.
So, speaking of 5 channel amps, I'd love to see what the Skar 5 channel SK-M9005D amp can do. I bought it to control my mids, highs, and my sub as well, but my touchscreen stereo doesn't have a line amp output coupled with the speaker outputs, and the amp will not run normal line out speaker along with the RCA outputs, so it won't control my mids, highs, along with my single 8" sub in my Acura TL unless I run it all through line out speaker controls, or line out RCAs.
You only need to loosen the 2 screws at the front, then slide the panel up slightly and remove. The top 2 screws don't screw into the body. They act like a lock pin.
One thing you and mostly everybody is failing to mention is that AudioControl plays really clean at 4 ohms for high frequencies, but if you drop the load to 2 ohms, the clean sound quality is completely gone. At 4 ohms it’s the most rms power you can use, cause at 2 ohms the amp is useless. This is for running components or coaxials. But for bass, you’re good at either 4 ohms or 2 ohms from a bass amp, or in this case from the sub channel.
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Your channel should be called (Williston BASS labs)
you do nothing else. only bass and bass amplifiers !
You like living on the dangerous side 1 Ohms
This would be perfect for me but I prefer to have my Subs & Stereo not mono at my old age
Those speaker connections shouldn't be a problem. I just use wire ferreles on those types of connections. Makes for a neater and reusable connection👍
Wheelie awesome man! Love seeing new toys and old school.... New toys obviously have some cool stuff I wish we had back then, but it's also hard to beat some old school stuff. May not always be as efficient and flashy, but chances are if taken care of, it'll still work 20 years later and new stuff might too... If the app is still supported and all 🤣 (for those new fangled things that use apps to get to functions) Have a great day y'all!!
Audio control is by far my favorite brand. It could be because I’m biased as their facility is about an hour from my house but I choose to believe it’s because they are arguably the highest quality brand in the game and have been for decades
You get a high quality product for what you pay. There a company that's not out there to rip you off and want to give you a quality product for the dollar. I also feel like they will be around for a long time
Agreed, them and JL Audio are two of my top popular brands.
I honestly believe that Audio Control makes the best amps, and over engineers their product line for noobs like me. I have an amazing 4 channel. American 🇺🇸 company that produces a quality electronic product in America. Seldom seen!
Thanks Williston, and thank Audio Control.
They finally switched the inserts to Allen’s key! This amp is 😍😍
Allen tired of us jacking his keys
My LC6.1200 and Epicenter 1200 have semi stripped Phillips inserts. I hope these Allen heads are a direct drop in.
you mean on fire with the junk caps and no fan to control the heat !
@@craigengelman4534 there are so many flavors in this world and you always choose salt!
@@wal - Awesome video as always and really appreciate all the info you give us !!!! Still would like the info on your sub box tho !!!
Seems like a super legit one box solution. This video made me think about buying one, then I remembered I haven't had a bon stock car stereo since 95
It appears as though this is a much better value then something comparable from JL that retails over $1,200. Awesome video, great info!
Your opinion
JL Audio is pretty much decayed due to the fact of their overpriced big-headed concept there's still a few people running their subwoofers but that's about it.. .
I got mine last week really impressed 👍
Got mine today , what’s your thoughts ?
Lets raise some money to buy BigD some pin connectors or banana plugs so he doesnt have to keep twisting up the ends of his speaker cable! Poor Guy...
Or even just some ferrules - yes!!
@@ronskopitz2360 yes furrules. However; that and the rest take it out of what most people too.
That's a good design. Tightly regulated and properly rated. There's a reason why they don't guarantee 1 ohm capability. The amp's power supply and output transistors need to have adequate capacity for the unexpected (i.e. reactive loads) so they don't let out the magic smoke. Relying on so called protection circuits isn't the answer as well. Yes there needs to be protection against catastrophic failure as well as fusing but these are safety measures and only spring into action when needed!
Notice too, a good amp barely if at all shows a peep out of the red distortion LED until the amp reaches its limit and the waveform is no longer a nice round sine wave. Lesser designs splatter and do all sorts of nasty stuff while still racking up watts. Which one would you rather listen to? ;-)
Not to mention in many installs where the amp is connected directly the driver voice coil (active x-over) there is no protection whatsoever for the driver. Woofers and mid basses are acceptably tolerant but tweeters? Forget about it!
I have the lc 6 1200 , such clean amplifier.. all of the included features make it worth the money. The built in clipping lights are soo helpful setting it up without owning an RTA or other equipment.. running 4 6x9 Pioneer D Series in the doors,, and bridged 5&6 to a 12 inch Kicker CompRT .. sounds awesome.. looking to move the sub to a mono block next, and hook up the dash speakers. saving up the money 💰 the built in channel summing is also awesome. I recommend Audio Control to anyone who can afford it..
AC makes excellent amps!
I'm having a similar system installed with this same amp. Have the same subwoofer. What ga power wire are you running it with? Will it be fine with 4 ga ofc power wire?
@Chandy the wire guage needed is based on the max amperage that will be required. The LC61200 is fused at 120amps, so as long as your cable run is less than 13ish feet, you should be fine. I ran 4 guage originally, but when I reinstalled in my next truck, I used 1/0 since I plan to run a dedicated monoblock from the same power source. Make sure to have a good fuse close to your battery or alternator wherever you source your power from.
In regards to tuning if you're interested.. kicker provides audio test tones you can download, like 40hz, sweeps, pink noise...etc stick with the -5dB versions unless you know or want to know what all that means, Google will help!
You first need to find where your head unit clips at ...
Disconnect your speakers from the amp make sure the bass knob is turned all the way up for all of this... dont want to blow a speaker while tuning like I did 😶
Play the associated audio track (use headphone jack, not Bluetooth its a cleaner signal) keep turning up the volume on your head unit and look for the MILC light to start flickering, not on solid. This is the maximum you should ever turn your head unit up to. Some high quality headunits wont clip, so you may never see the MILC light come on..
Once that is figured out, play the track again and turn up levels/gains until the Maximized lights on the amp channels start to flicker but are not on solid. In my case I played the pink noise for my door speaker channels ( 1, 2, 3 and 4) and the 40hz for the bridged sub channels( 5 and 6).
That should give you a safe tune where you won't blow anything up.. from there I would play the typical kind of music you listen to (with speakers connected) and do some fine adjusting.
Main thing is you don't want the MILC or Maximized lights on solid, it's OK if they blink and maybe go solid for a half a second or something.
Don't be afraid to call Audio Control tech support if you have questions, they have always been super helpful and spend the time with you answering whatever questions they can.
There are some other more technical ways to tune using an oscilloscope or an actual RTA but that depends on how much money you have to spend tuning..
Good luck, you will be very happy, I have had my LC61200 for going on 8 years and have had no problems. High quality stuff!
@djmjr4827 Thanks for your advice! I have a 2019 Toyota Tundra. Installing the infinity kappa components with a 2" midrange makes it a 3 way in the front and coaxial in the rear. Will it be good to use factory speaker wire? Or should I run 16 ga speaker wire to the doors?
Sounded super clean. They definitely make good amps if you can afford it. Wish I would of known they were in my backyard back in high school and college days.
Audio Control is the best company ever!! many years ago i had a 4ch eq go bad on me and they fixed for me for free!!
Considering the RCA's are literally BOLTED to the front panel, i would consider them PANEL MOUNT, although they are slightly different designs, that keeps the force off the circuit board quite well. Not a negative, just a different design
I was going to say that and tiffany style is great for 2 or 1 channel amps. The nuts take up space and this is a space saving design.
I got my very first EpiCenter in the late 80's when I was just old enough to get my first car. Oh the memories!!
Yessir! Got mine used in 92. That’s the only reason I’m even aware of Audio Control.
I actually grew up a stones throw from their HQ/factory in Kent Wash. (I'm from Puyallup close to there) But they were a pretty small outfit back then.
One word on the speaker connections, ferrules. Only way to safely input or output on those tiny connectors. My LC1.800 is the same way.👍🏼
Good point 👍
You can also just let solder soak into the exposed wire.
100% . I do see his point for sure tho. Could have taken that extra step .
even with ferrules 1 strand of wire and toast its in a car so you get vibration . for $800 your better off with 4 channel and sub amp . no fans ,no remote ,Yuscon Caps= pass
I've always been a RF fan boy but man Audio Control is going to be seeing some of my hard earned money! Great vid D. AC may not send you another amp after watching the after credits 😂😂😂
Good headroom for transient spikes I wouldent expect any less from audio control. Seems to be the only company that stayed true to themselfs
Reminds me of my fosgate 600a5 . The fosgate has hp/LP bass boost on all channels so it can be used just for subs. All in one solutions is nice . It's the only 5 channel I have
I love audio control's stuff, I wish their home audio stuff was more affordable, it's outrageously expensive.
Man thats a nice one amp for all option! Pricey, but you do get what you pay for, and Audio Control is quality stuff.
Hey Big D! Great videos as always! One thing of note about these LC series amplifiers is that they are designed by Robert Zeff and Nikola Engineering! I know you know that name! These are very similar to the Arc X2 series amplifiers. I actually have the LC1200.6 running a 3way fully active front stage and an oldschool Rockford bd1000 on my sub in my car. I can tell you these are extremely clean sounding amps! Thanks again for all you're doing for the car audio community!✌
Badass amp 100%
I'm having a hard time believing this is only a 12awg (2mm²) cable at 4:40. I agree that they should have shosen the outher connections for bridged mode. Eighter way in my opinion the cable size you choose should not expose the wiring so much when correctly connected. Thanks for a great video once again.
I have this amp in my cart to use in my GX460 to run a three way Dynaudio Esotan 372 set and a JL 13.5. I like that I can load up the line level inputs given the GX really has no options other than the stock deck. Plus the small size, and the adjustment functions, should sit under the seat nicely. Thanks for the review, very impressive, and helpful!
Put some Pinkk floyd Welcome to the machine. It tortures many speakers and amplifiers, I know they would probably demonitise your video for doing it but what a good test. Never mind this electronic auto tune crap
This is an excellent lil 5 channel amp!
On the top cover removal: You don't need to take the back screws out, they are only sort of "hooks" under the lip in the back.
The front screws don't need to be fully removed. You unscrew them about halfway and the you lift up the front and slide the cover back to release the "hook" screws in the back.
This info is in the owner's manual as well. All of the new Audiocontrol LC and DM amps have the same top cover removal.
It's kinda weird. I wish they would have just make actual hooks instead of using screws that way.
Giving the V-Day Special video from a special amp ...Thanks
Needs a output rca cause 2 of those amps would make a good 3 way up front rear fill and 2 subs 😉
Yeah boi!
Holy hell...that ones a beast. Great job audio control.
Fun fact: 5 year warranty.
Genuine question: are there any other companies in the car audio space with a comparable warranty period?
Five years from the date of purchase, provided it is installed by an authorized AudioControl dealer
@@bryantopp174 Good catch, that is quite disappointing.
@@bryantopp174 Exactly.
Sony's new GS series subs and XM-GS amps (watch out JL) are 3 years as long as it's installed by an authorized dealer.
@@bryantopp174 that is not true. Warranty is still honored if purchased directly from any authorized online dealer. Such as crutchfield or abt
I like the fact they don't go below 2ohm stability. Cerwin Vega stroker amps do that also. Efficiency and sq.
yeah would like to see some of the new Cerwin vega Stroker and Stroker pro amps on the dyno, particularly the multichannel ones. i guess they will do very well on the tests.
I like the looks of all Audio Control items. Beauty through purposeful design.
The price is on the high side. BUT, this is a do-all amp for someone looking to easily power an upgraded factory system without the need for LOC's. What I'd like to see from AudioControl is adapter plugs for factory systems that go directly from the factory amp output to the high level input. It would make this more plug'n'play and appealing to a wider audience.
Factory amp output? Meaning the positive and negative on the speakers in a stock car audio system? That’s what the high level uses for input
@@greglatta1 Exactly. For instance, if you're adding this to a factory Alpine system in a Ram/Jeep it'd be nice if they made a jumper that plugged directly in to the output of the factory amp and directly in to the high level input on the AC amp. Save some time of running wires, and it'd be more plug'n'play.
AudioControl ftw!
Audio Control always seems to make solid gear. Looking at possibly getting a DQ-61 or similar for adding my own amps and speakers to a factory system.
Williston Audio, when will you get the amp dyno on the McIntosh amp, or it's not finished getting fixed?
I need to check on that. Tech still has the amp 🤷♂️
audio control, putting in work!
Nice video man.that is one sweet amp,nice power ad tuning options
Looks like it was designed to be wired using wire ferrules. In a standard install using ferrules, I doubt there would be any issues with the terminals.
Halfway tempted to get a industrial power supply and hook this up to the preouts of the hometheater. Now that would make a video
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
But in a good way!
Audio Control does make Home audio amplifiers etc.
@@K-Effect what’s the fun in that?
We need a barevids full analysis!
Beautiful clean looking amp . Great choice for add on stock radio. Excellent choice for SQ quality. Love audiocontrol products.
Agreed, they make only top quality products
Don't worry guys big d knows what he is doing there's plenty of rise off them 4 subs to get him well over 1ohm, and he's doing music tests on them not tones so he's fine he's well over 2ohms most of the time probably
Thanks for your work ! I want to see a amp dyno of the entry level 5 channel Rockford Prime to see who win the battle with the kenwood and the Pioneer.
Banging single amp solution! Looks small enough to fit anywhere 😁
Your meant to use wire ends on the speaker outputs. thanks for sharing
I used to love AudioControl sounded great till it didn't in November just before the start of covid19 after saving up 2 years at a shop near me they ordered and installed for me a dm-810 dsp , two D-4.800's and lc-1.1500 sub amp 2 sets front Alpine x series 6.5 Component Set rear ALPINE X Series 6x9 Component set and 4 JL AUDIO 10TW3 shallow mounts built in to a custom console that went from front to back now the bad the AudioControl dm-810 started interment shut downs ins inside of 3.5 month by 4.5 it was dead took it back to the installer and AudioControl tells installer it was not bought through one of there dealers more less piss up a rope and next day covid shut down happens and till its over the installer closes shop for good I mean come on AudioControl its the 2020's everything is bought online now the warranty shouldn't matter where its bought from these days if from the USA even after I called my self they never even called me back I boycotted AudioControl at that point its a shame there stuff sounds great but the $800 hit hurt with the way money was then ending up out of work for 4.5 months.. sorry for the rant.. and people buy AudioControl be careful where you buy there there stuff from and make sure its a dealer or they will weasel there way out of there warranty..
Awesome piece of equipment big D. The efficiency is incredible. Considering the price point and the features this amp is definitely designed exclusively for folks with brand new or leased vehicles that have complex factory systems that are difficult to upgrade. I can't think of a reason to use this with an aftermarket head unit since most decent ones all have plenty of EQ & crossovers built in
Gotta love W.A.L.....Thx 4 another great vid Big D!😀
Great video! I'm having this amp installed soon. Will this amp run ok with 4 ga ofc power wire?
Very informative video as always! I would like to see some German amps like Helix. Helix M series would be great! :)
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I agree, Helix would be superinteresting too see your opinion om 😁 .
I want to get back into audio nice review keep it up Big D
Do it! Thanks 🙏
In your opinion do you think this will play 4 DD 506D2 subwoofers well? Thanks for your feedback...Awesome videos btw!!
What are tiffany / panel mount RCA's? And why do you like them so much?
"Next up - something not recommended by audio control"
*cuts to cape cod chip commercial*
Too perfect
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Would you do a test on this amp using music track like you did with hifonics? Curious on dynamic numbers with music.
i got the LC 4.800. and i have not had a amp that plays this clean since a made in japan alpine v12
Very nice I just bought a aidiocontrol dm-608. I'm pretty sure these are usa made?
I had to check the manual, but the crossovers are only 2nd order. Too much mid bass bleed on from the subs for me... surely it couldn't have cost that much more to make (at least) the sub channel x-over 4th order.
If your head unit has a subwoofer output that's 12dB/octave, and you use this amps crossover as well, you can achieve a 24dB/octave slope.
are these dyno tests basically a stability test as well? or is that a whole other thing?
Dyno tests are brutal on the amp. I’d say it’s testing stability for sure
Hey big d. Would you ever do a dyno on a soundqubed amp?
I've been looking for an Amp so Really appreciate seeing this information, I would be installing in a pickup and wandered If your tests checks for noise filtering, don't want any alternator noise, lol ?
Curious what your thoughts are when comparing this amplifier to the T1000X5ad?
Btw... great videos. I’ve recently got back into Car audio and had a few old Rockford Amps refreshed through some of the original engineers after finding your channel. Thxs for bringing back fond memories.
This is the exact comparison I was wondering about. I'm been trying to decide between these 2 amps. Keep going back and forth between the 2. Did you ever choose one over the other?
@@caraudiocentral I was hoping to get some feedback on this channel but no response as you can see.
I’m still debating between the two. I’ve never used AC amplifiers before but still have some of their preamp
Stuff from 20 years ago that still sound awesome.
Did you decide yet? If so, would you let me know which way you went and why..? Thanks.
@@kevineth100 I haven't decided 100% yet, but leaning more toward the Audio Control. I think mostly just because I want to try something new. But still wish someone would do a comparison between these 2 amps. Would like to see which one performs better.
It seems that this is a good choice for a smaller vehicle like a sedan, where mounting options are limited.
Car audio fabrication best you to the punch on this one.
Love me some audio control.
CAF sent him this amp to test. This is the amp in the CAF video. He says it in the beginning of his video and put a link here in the description.
Nice amp big D. I always wondered on those type of amps can you have 4x100 @4 ohms and 1x500@ 1ohm?
I was worried the subwoofer channel's listed output would be on the low side for my system. This should be plenty for my pair of JL 12TW#-D8s.
Maaaaan do you know how much damage we would have done with this amp in the 80-90s??? Blowing alternators on the weekly
Where are amplification mosfet inside ??? 5 channel amp has at least 10 mosfet or(12 in subwoofer bridge mode). Is it made by class d IC such as TPA or TAS?? please reply. Thank you.
Why do you like the Tiffany style RCA inputs over the others?
Tiffany style connectors and attached and secured to the metal plate that they pass through meaning you can push on them all you want and nothing is going to break within reason obviously
The only benefit with buying this amp vs both the LCD 4.800 and LCD 1.800 is the footprint. I own both the others and spent less money than paying for this one.
The two separate amps would be better, this one is a great all in one solution
@@wal yes it is. No distribution blocks for power needed with just one amp.
It will be real interesting to see what Sam @ Barevids thinks about the design. As it's not just a cookie cutter that is in the majority of the market..
Also what sort of load was the amp seeing with wired at 1ohm to the HiQ's ?? As box rise would need to be taken into account..
So it is quite a possibility you could wire it to 1ohm, but the amp might not see the 1ohm load.. Awesome vid as usual :)
Agreed on all points!
On similar power Do you think 2 of those HQ-8s would be comparable to like one typical 1000w level 12 say SA or XFL
I might have missed it somewhere before but how do you determine the efficiency rating.
Cool amp!!
I've never owned any Audio Control car audio amps or crossovers.
But I did however purchase one of their Home Theater equalizers and a 1/3 octive spectrum analyzer.
Only the best quality all around
Looks 1ohm stable to me.. very nice versatile looking amp..
When I saw the price I had to do a double take to make sure I wasn't looking at an old school audio catalog haha. I guess we've just been spoiled with amps at bargain prices for so long.
Great vid once again, but I would’ve loved to see it lit by that factory led strip.
Ok here is an amp that I'm interested in but cannot seem to find any dyno for it. The Soundqubed U1-3000 and the U1 - 5000. Both full range amps.
JL 900/5 vs this? or another? Looking to power a 350Z convertible. Probably a 10W6 for the sub.
Wow this amp is amazing, especially for that size, but how hot would it getif using at 80-90% and how long would it play for?
It looks to be a class D amplifier. Assuming that it is, you’ll likely turn the volume down from ear fatigue well before it goes into thermal shutdown unless you insulate it with a pile of blankets or something.
Bravo excellent good video content love watching all of your UA-cam videos keep up the good work making awesome UA-cam videos
Is there a difference in sound from Tiffany rca and the other inputs?
No, just more firm connection
@@wal and acting as ground.?
Thanks for 8ohm test! :D
Good video. I like audio controls stuff but man those speaker connectors with the tiny screws have always driven me nuts.
How many watts difference between the channels before you could hear a difference?
So, speaking of 5 channel amps, I'd love to see what the Skar 5 channel SK-M9005D amp can do. I bought it to control my mids, highs, and my sub as well, but my touchscreen stereo doesn't have a line amp output coupled with the speaker outputs, and the amp will not run normal line out speaker along with the RCA outputs, so it won't control my mids, highs, along with my single 8" sub in my Acura TL unless I run it all through line out speaker controls, or line out RCAs.
Hi, do you think you can do a review of Alpine R-A90S, thank you
You only need to loosen the 2 screws at the front, then slide the panel up slightly and remove. The top 2 screws don't screw into the body. They act like a lock pin.
You Da man big D. and thanks for keeping it real.
I really like audio control
One thing you and mostly everybody is failing to mention is that AudioControl plays really clean at 4 ohms for high frequencies, but if you drop the load to 2 ohms, the clean sound quality is completely gone. At 4 ohms it’s the most rms power you can use, cause at 2 ohms the amp is useless. This is for running components or coaxials. But for bass, you’re good at either 4 ohms or 2 ohms from a bass amp, or in this case from the sub channel.
Have you had a chance to review the AudioControl LC-6.1200 model ?
No and probably won’t. I can’t test all models from each company, there are just too many
@@wal thanks for the reply 🙂
What 5 channel amp did you like more the JL Audio 900/5HD or the Audio Control LC5.1300? Thanks your insight is appreciated.
The JL is more compact, but the AC is more powerful. If you have the room I’d go AC
I'm a bit new to multi channel amps. Will this amp run 4 ohms on the 4 channel side and 2 ohms on the subwoofer at the same time?
Yes
I have a PG the one amp id love to see tested. however naturally id want it back.
Great video Big D. have you done a video on Kenwood Excelon XR 901-5 amp.
I've got the 901-5 and love it! He did a test of the 801-5 a while back, but I don't think he's done the 901-5.
@@PURESOUND4 thanks.
Pls make a tpa3116 chip based 2.1 amplifier review
Dammit boy! That's some power on that amp!!
How was it sound quality wise?
The Kenwood excelon XR901-5 tested?