BERETTA Silver Pigeon... Avoiding damage to your gun... Roger Pace
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Proper assembly and disassembly .... so that no components of the gun are under stress or pressure. the video demonstrates how to store the gun so that the firing pins and release lever mechanism is not under pressure as recommended by the beretta manual.
Hope the video is useful and if so please look up my other videos at "youtube Roger Pace Channel" Thank You
Thank you for the Lever Explanation..was hard to find a video for it.
Good on you and thanks for watching. Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
One of the most useful videos I’ve seen. Damn beretta owners manual doesn’t come close. Thx
Glad it helped!!!
Just bought my 686 and thank you so much for making this video!!!!!!!
Glad I could help! Happy shooting...its a good gun !!!
Thank you so much. Your presentations on the silver pigeon are on point and have been very helpful with my new Silver Pigeon.
Cheers!
You are very welcome ...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Very helpful sir. Thank you from Illinois, USA. Just ordered a Silver Pigeon.
Kevin...thank you...Silver pigeon is berettas most reliable gun...stay safe over there...good to hear from you !!!
I bought a Berretta SP1 Sporter second hand (no manual) so that process of barrel selector on 1/ snap-cap fire/ then switching the barrel selector to 2/snap-cap fire.. has saved me from slapping the rear stock to inertia switch the barrels 👌
Thankyou for the tip!
Good on you ...and thanks for watching!!!
I always find your videos to be very interesting and informative. Largely due to your seemingly fond appreciation for this particular shotgun, I recently purchased my own Silver Pigeon 1. I find your videos on cleaning and care far more interesting than reading owner’s manuals. Keep up the great work, sir.
Wayne ...after 3 years I came upon your comment on my you tube channel...i try to answer every comment ...but some how yours got through...thank you for watching...hope you are well and happy shooting !!!
Just bought my Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 Sporting this very morning. Very grateful for your
advice. Nice video. Many thanks, Roger!
Great gun and more reliable than my 690!
Great video, thank you. I just hold a nickel firmly against each firing pin to release the pressure. It’s soft enough to dent similar to a primer and this saves the assembly/disassembly steps.
Very true. Good on you ! Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
Good demonstration. I just purchased a new silver pigeon 1 sport yesterday. Can't wait to get it out Friday. Fits like a glove.
Congratulations...it's a good reliable gun...happy shooting!
Simple, easy to follow and extremely informative thank you
Edward...thank you...stay well...Roger
Very useful video! Thanks!
Great video Roger... Just purchased my new beretta silver pigeon 3 love it
Good choice! and happy shooting...stay well!!!
Just want to say thank you for this video. Very informative and it's what I needed to see. Much appreciated.
You are very welcome!!!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and skills with us on the Beretta 686.
Heai...you are most welcome and thank you!
I've had mine since September and I agree, do what the manual says it's quick and easy to decock and use snap caps.
Good on you and thanks for watching.
Thank you mate..... great, informative and to the point video. Cheers.
Very good video, thank you Roger. On my new 686 I have to depress the release lever pin with the very end of my finger nail to make sure it's pushed far enough into the hole to release the lever tension while, as you pointed out, holding the lever hard to the right. It's a natural pointer and I love it for sporting clays.
peacockunini...I do the same to release the lever...never shot sporting clays...must give it a go!
Great video! Have you ever had an issue with the gun not wanting to break after you’ve assembled it out of storage? My issue is: when I’m storing the gun, I use snap caps to release firing pins. Then I let the lever down. Once I go to reassemble the gun, it takes effort to break the gun open for the first (and only first) time. It also makes a painful sound, as is something was cracking. Ever heard of this?
Thanks again!
This video help me a lot with Beretta 694 Sporting.Thank you :)
You're welcome! and stay well!!!
Nice learning lesson! Thank you!
Glad you liked it! Good on you ...stay well!!!
G’day Roger, another vid of sound advice! Hope your scores are still going good. Take care. JC.
John...yes...still shooting reasonably well...good to hear from you and thanks!!!
Thank you sir for this excellent video, it answered several questions about the Silver Pigeon that I had. Especially how to decock the hammers. It is never a good idea to leave any spring under constant pressure for long periods of time. I'm getting a new Silver Pigeon in about two weeks and I can't wait! Once again thanks for the very informative video about this fine shotgun.
It's my pleasure...thanks for the kind comments...it is a good gun...Stay well...Happy Shooting...Roger
Thank you for the great information.
EM you are very welcome...stay well and thanks for watching !!!
Thank you. This is exactly the information i was searching for. I inherited a Beretta S686 Special from my late father and have no idea how to store it properly. I have never used nor been taught the use and care of it. However, he did mention about releasing spring tension before storage long time ago, now i know how. He used to dry fire it though not very often as it is almost never used.
+dlyz84 Beretta's are very reliable and durable...your late Dad had good taste in guns...glad the video was useful and thank you for your kind comment... best wishes Roger
Great help. I just got my first shotgun and the manual wasn’t very helpful. Thanks for the help!
Glad it was useful. !!! Stay well.
good video Roger, nice gun, very easy to assemble and dissasemble. best wishes. Bill
William...thank you and best wishes to you my friend!
Very helpful, thanks Roger.
Just got my Silver Pigeon 1.
Philip...you are very welcome and congratulations on the new gun...it is very reliable and great value...stay well!
Pretty good info, even while he's been sipping on some ale!!!
Exactly!...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
I think I have watched all of your videos now. Some several times. Just got a Beretta Silver Pigeon sport III ; 2007 build year. Perfect. Looks factory new. 30 inch barrels. So pleased. Love your comments. Keep them coming. PS , I may get an adjustable stock from the dealer. They do excellent woodwork. My gun shoots low to flat. At 22 yards 60 to 70 percent of pattern was below dead center. My instructor says to keep shooting for a few months, re shoot the pattern board and then decide.
Thoughts?
Ed...go with what your instructor says...but i would check the point of impact sooner than a few months!
Very informative, thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Stay well and thanks for watching !!!
VERY Useful ... thanks for the video
Glad it was helpful! Stay well!!!
You have answered all of my questions, great clip, fantastic gun.
Shane ...good on you...glad it was helpful
enjoy your videos...beautiful gun sir.
B Basham...thank you and stay well! ...glad you enjoy the videos...good on you!
Very nice! I might get a 686 20 gauge soon. I'd love to take it rabbit hunting but I'd be scared it would get messed up. Probably just take it dove hunting and skeet shooting
Trevor...sounds like a good idea...thanks for watching...stay well and a happy new year!!!
Thank you, very helpful!
Thank you for watching...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Hi Roger i love the video. As an australian i have too store mine in a safe and is there anyway too take the pressure off the leaver why the gun is in one unit? thanks
Matthew...the simplest way is to put in 2 snap caps ...fire both barrels and store the gun...if you do not want the snap caps in the gun ...disassemble the gun...reassemble it and nothing should be cocked.Thank you for watching. Much appreciated. Stay well and Happy shooting.!!!
@@rogerpace9322 thanks very much
Thanks. Did know about these tips. 👍
just purchased 686 pig 1 sporter very helpful infor thanks
+albert reese Albert you will love the gun...and it's so reliable...it never misses a beat...and at major shoots beretta will be there and you can get the gun serviced free of charge for the life of the gun..... enjoy shooting it and best wishes...Roger
Albert... how is the silver pigeon going...are you happy with it? Best wishes Roger
The T Shirt was not free from Beretta..... I paid for it.
Thank you sir, very useful informations
Excellent video Roger! It helped me alot. I have watched your other videos as well and they have been very helpful to me. Keep up with the good work!
Simon...thank you...much appreciated!
Hi Roger, I'm a recent owner of a Silver Pigeon, and while I do see mention of not storing with firing pins under pressure, my manual says nothing of pressing the small pin on the receiver to get the lever to the "6 'o clock" position. Otherwise, I see nothing potentially different about how you do it. (except I don't store mine disassembled.) I clean, reassemble, use snap caps to pull both triggers, then store, assembled in my safe. Cheers. Still looking forward to my first 25 on trap and skeet. Might go this year to the Dakotas maybe for some pheasant!
freddiemercurious...what you are doing is fine and nothing is under tension...going to the Dakotas sounds great...good to hear from you and stay well. That first 25 is all about self belief and total concentration...I'll look forward to hearing about it when it happens in the near future.
Brilliant Laura. thanks
I’m new to Over and Unders and your video helps a lot for my 691.
I was concerned how stiff my fore end was. Are there any other tips on how to put on the fore end without damaging the wood? How to maintain and lubricate?
The fore end on my 694 was stiff at first but it will loosen up...i have a video on lubricating the gun...maybe that will help...stay well!!!
Yes it was helpful, thank you
Is there a way of loosening up the silver pigeon 1 ? A friend purchased one recently and even with lube it’s very tight.
Great information, thanks.
Hardy...glad you liked it...thanks for watching!!!
Thank you so much Roger for your extremely informative video
I will be applying this knowledge to my Silver Pigeon 1 Sporting (not sporter)
I just bought a new Beretta 486 Parallelo 12 Gauge, does this apply to the side by side as well
I was unable to find any video on how to disassemble and store Beretta 486 Parallelo
Could you please advise if it's the same procedure for the side by side?
Thank you in advance Roger
A basic principle is... if it turns grease it and if it slides oil it...when the parallelo is disassembled i would store it with the receiver facing down to the ground so any oil does not flow back into the receiver ...this applies even if its in the case.
Roger Pace thank you Roger
I’m wondering what is the procedure for decocking the firing pins and releasing the lever as shown in your video when you wanna apply it to the Paralello
Do you put snap caps and fire both pins and then take the gun down? Opening the gun won’t activate the firing pins and put them under pressure?
And the lever?
I haven’t brought the gun home yet so I’m just wondering if you could help
Thank you
Roger, good video. Thanks. My 686 Beretta is hard to open after firing. Can you do a video on troubleshooting and possible fix?
Will try!
I press the lever to the right and the pin down, but it won't come back to the center. Does the safety position have something to do with that?
David ...because i only use the gun for trap shooting i actually never have the safety on ...so i really can't answer the question...but...take the safety off and when you press the pin and the lever doesn't go back then i would have the gun looked at by a qualified gunsmith...stay well!!!
Just purchased my 686 LH Silver Pigeon about a week ago....Some quick questions...this may seem silly but are there any issues storing the gun fully assembled? Seems like the manual implies that it should be disassembled after use? I like to store my shotguns in a locked safe so that is where I store them. Any issues using Hoppes gun oil as opposed to Beretta's gun oil for lubrication?
Thank you for taking the time to make your videos!!! Definitely informative and much better than the manual....
Radman... any good gun oil will do...if stored assembled make sure you have used the snap caps to release the pressure on the springs. Stay well and silver pigeon is a good gun !!!
Thanks for your videos Roger they're very useful. I'm new to shooting and looking for a used Beretta silver pigeon in the UK and came across your channel searching reviews. Do you ever buy used guns or always new? Any videos on helpful general tips for people getting started in shooting and things you wish you'd been told before or in hindsight not wasted your time or money on? Thanks
Andrew...good to hear from you ...my guns have always been new...used berettas still command a high price so i buy new ...then you know what the gun has been through...my first gun was a silver pigeon i traded it in because it did not have an adjustable stock...that would have to be the most crucial thing on a shotgun ...because then we can adjust it to shoot where we look...stay well!
This was helpful
Good on you...glad you liked it !!!
Three most common ways to avoid damage to your SP1.
1. Don't lend it to Danny when hunting
2. Don't drag it through a barb wire fence when hunting
3. Make sure you have a big enough safe so you don't bang the stock on another rifle when you pull it out.
Good on you mchughcb...happy shooting!!!
I installed snap caps in my 686 but cannot get the lever to reset when closing the barrel, nor will the barrel lock in place; but no problems with spent hulls. Will check with my local skeet range gunsmith to see if I can resolve the issue.
Pete...good to hear from you...sorry I can't help...seeing the gunsmith is the way to go!...stay well and happy shooting!
Good vid!
Thank you...glad you think so...much appreciated...stay well and thanks for watching !!!
Thank you Roger, very informative video
Arber...good on you and thanks!
can you store the gun without disassembling?
Very informative I thought you fired the barrels off with snap caps then stored it away with the caps left in and the gun still assembled or is that not a good idea.
You can do that...or once you've fired off the snap caps when you take off the fore end and disassemble the gun ...the gun does not re cock.
@@rogerpace9322 Thanks Roger. The only reason I asked was here in the UK we have to keep our guns in a locked steel cabinet and mainly fully assembled. We can't store them in the supplied abs case for security reasons. I wouldn't like to keep it in the safe in pieces because of knocks and corrosion. On most brands the firing pins are under pressure every time you open the gun so leaving snap caps in is probably our best bet.
Well done sir.
Good on you. Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
That looks like a sporter ? Is it trap only ? Or you hunt as well .... is it much different to the dedicated clay sport gun ?
yes its a sporter ...correct...stay well
So you wouldn't say it's fine to just leave the gun always assembled and ready to be used if needed? A semiautomatic it's better for this?
George...it's fine to leave it assembled as long as it's in a dry place and metal wiped down with a slightly oily rag...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Roger, great video. I have a question, you mention putting it in the box for storage but you handled it quite a bit. Will it cause any corrosion after handling with your bare hands? I was taught to wipe down and oil all metal and then not to touch it when putting it away.
Jason...you make a good point...but if you often rub it with an oily cloth then you shouldn't have any problems...metals these days have come a long way...shotgun barrels used to get pitted...but now with cleaner powders and chromed barrels ...it's not a problem any more...good to hear from you!!!
Roger Pace follow up question, do you store them assembled standing in a gun safe or always in their original case?
@@jasonstanley5818 good question
Какая беретта 686 модель хорошо стрелять крупной дробь ?
Hi Roger, great video! Is it ok to disassemble the gun after taking your last shots instead of using snap caps? Wouldn't that accomplish the same thing as long as you don't recock or is it dangerous disassemble without first ejecting the spent cartridges. Thanks for your help!
It would not be dangerous to disassemble the gun with the spent cartridges still in the gun...however as soon as you have finished shooting ...the range rules are that you cannot walk off without the gun being opened...and as soon as you open the gun it recocks ...thats why we put in the snap caps ...fire the two barrels and then dismantle the gun.
Ok got it, thanks again!
Great vid thanks a lot. I wonder whether 686 SP1 has auto-safety or not and that tiny oil is a cleaning or lubricating one. Thanks.
ibrahim...mine did not have auto safety...the small bottle of oil is for lubricating...stay well!
Thank you!!
You're welcome! Stay well and happy shooting !!!
Hello Roger! Great information! I am new to O/U and I have a question to ask. Is it normal for the trigger to wiggle a little bit from left to right? thank you very much The shotgun is new, may be shot 100 rounds so far and just noticed it
I just went and checked all 3 of my shotguns and all the triggers had a slight wiggle...there you go...very interesting question...happy shooting !!!
@@rogerpace9322 Thank you for your info. Stay safe
Nice vid Mate. Are you Maltese or dicendent?
Italian...my friend...from Abbruzzi!!!
@@rogerpace9322 0k because it a common Maltese surname also
Nice, but i have problems with getting the handler back on the barrel when i have to put it away for storage
Jesper...I am not sure what you mean.
Ah, sorry, It is the forend, when i have to pack it away in the carrying case, the forend wont click in when i put it back on the gunbarrel. Not even when i give it e gentele but firm whack.
Jesper...If it goes onto the gun properly when you put the gun together I don't know why it wouldn't go onto the barrels...I would get the gun looked at by a gunsmith...sorry i can't be of more help!
I will take it back then and ask them what im doing wrong :) They showed it to me before i even bought it, so there must be something i do wrong. Thanks a lot for the help
May I ask, do you keep your gun in the plastic Beretta case for long term storage and/or safe storage?
Yes...it is quite OK to store the gun in its plastic case...stay well!!!
good
Thanks...and stay well !!!
Hello! What snap caps do you use? Can you give a link for them? Thanks!!
They are Beretta snap caps ...I just bought them from my local gun shop...the beretta website will have them listed!!!
Hi Roger, I noticed, that the video is probably cut about 0:51'-0:52' time, when you assemble the gun. Its about the ejectors - when you first assemble the ejectors are out, and just a second after they are in. I have the same problem, after the gun is disassembled and the ejectors are out, it's not easy to put the barrels in - you need to press them to do it. Can you explain that? Regards
Rafal...good to hear from you...when i assemble the gun I always turn the lever to get the locking lugs out of the way....as you close the gun the ejectors start to push in...try opening the lever and see if that makes it easier to assemble...stay well!
Rafal...I now understand what you were asking because my 690 does exactly what you were saying...sometimes the ejectors come out a bit further than normal and you can't assemble the gun without pushing the ejectors in...you were spot on!
Hello Roger (amazing videos) I have a quick question. on my silver pigeon I'm having difficulty getting the lever to come back to the center. I press the lever first and push the firing pin down. But the lever just will not go back in the center. Is there something that I'm doing wrong? any advice is appreciated, stay well Roger.
On the silver pigeon the normal position of the lever is between the 5 and the 6 on a clock...after dismantling the gun the lever is to the right ...next to the top firing pin there is a little button that you push while holding the lever to the right.... push down hard on this button and then with your thumb guide the lever back to its resting position...I hope i've understood your question...if not let me know...stay well...Roger
+Roger Pace . yes I understood it sorry had to watch your video again, thanks again Roger
good on you !
Roger, have you heard about the ejector problems with 69x guns, and what is your opinion?
Tony...I have heard that the rubber O rings can wear out...I've had mine for 6 months and so far so good...I shoot about 150 rounds per week and so far no problems...the good thing is that the beretta people attend major shoots and you can get the O rings replaced free of charge...I like the gun...stay well!
Roger Pace. Any update on o ring issues? Still doing ok?
Does it shoot 2 bullets at once ?
No...never had a double discharge!!!