Beretta Silver Pigeon Cleaning and Lubricating Roger Pace
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Cleaning and lubricating your gun to keep it in perfect working order and reduce wear and tear.I think you will find it informative. Do not be scared to put a fair amount of grease on the knuckle and pins. If you do not clean your gun often then use oil. Hope you find the video useful and if so please look up my other videos on shooting at " youtube Roger Pace Channel" Thank You
I greatly appreciate the walk through for cleaning and lubing the 686. I just bought one yesterday for my son and will make sure he watches this video so he can clean his own 686, even though he's only 12. :o)
Joseph... great idea...and while he's at it he can clean yours too ...thanks for watching!!!
Roger, greetings from Ohio, USA. I thank you for your thoughtful comment about the lever position. I just purchased a new 686 SPI and cleaned it before taking it out to the range. I was concerned about the lever position and now after seeing your video and hearing your comments about the lever position my mind is at ease. My lever is in exactly the same position as yours. Thanks again!
You are very welcome... thank you for watching and stay well in lovely OHIO
Thank you so much. I got my silver pigeon a few months ago, and while I had help to walk me through cleaning it the first time, I am new to the sport and have trouble remembering where I was supposed to put grease, and where to put oil. This is so helpful!
Glad it helped!...thank you!!!
Best cleaning and lubing video I've seen, great explanation on why and when to use grease. Well done
Thank you very much! Much appreciated !!!
I have a pair of 20 bore Berettas and I have benefitted from watching this tremendously.Thank You
Raybede...thanks and good on you!!
I just bought this gun and I'm SO happy with this video!! You helped answer so many questions!! Thanks!!
Forgon...a good reliable gun...enjoy shooting it...good on you and thanks for watching!!!
I just bought this gun and super happy to have found your channel. Great info. I appreciate it!
Nick...good to hear from you...it's a very good reliable gun...glad you like the videos...stay well
The SP has sharp looks yet has a gentle element of beauty to it, which warrants such attention as shown in your video. Another great presentation. Thank you!
Most welcome!
That was an excellent point you made about not removing the chokes before using a bore snake... I had never though about damaging the threads. You are clearly knowledgeable but, I wish I could SEE more of what you were doing in this video.
Tobias...sorry you couldn't see everything...i do the videos on an iphone on a small tripod...thanks and stay well!
Great Video.Thanks for the close ups.Just bought the Silver Pigeon 1 Sporting 32" Barrel. Fired 125 Rounds yesterday, Halfway through,It started sleeting.Go figure,January in Michigan.....I loved every minute of it.
Donald...that was my first gun..i would have kept it but it did not have an adjustable stock!!!
Thank you for the close ups. I am new to clay shooting and would love a video discussing all the parts of the gun and what the mechanism does.
Will try Stay well and thanks for watching!!!
Very thorough job, sir! Thank you for the close ups, it’s the little thing that really help! Also, grey ode to ur a small paintbrush for lubing!!! Enjoyed your video!!!
Donna...glad it was helpful...stay well and thanks!!!
Thank you for this great video, Roger. I just got one of these lovely shotguns and your video was very helpful. I will be watching all of your videos, they are thoughtful, detailed and very informative. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
Karen...good on you and thanks!
Great video, thank you. got my silver pigeon a couple of weeks ago and as a newbie to the sport it's quite daunting to know where to start, but this really helps!
Dom...very nice and reliable gun...good on you and stay well.
I find your video's VERY helpful. Thank you so much for taking the time to make them.
LL...you are very welcome...stay well!
I have the same gun in 28" barrels. I shoot trap, skeet, 5 stand, and sporting clays with it. Great gun. I loved the micro fiber towel tip. I keep one in my range kit but never thought about pulling it down the barrel. I'll be using paracord instead of a ribbon though. :) I pull the bore snake through mine after I shoot, before I put the gun into the travel case.
Ozark Ed Glad you liked the micro fibre towel ...I just found that using the pads took too long and you needed too many pads...I'm going to use paracord too like you said...I've got a 6mm comb raiser on my stock and it fits me really well...glad you like the gun...thanks for your comments...stay well...Roger
An excellent demonstration and explanation on cleaning and lubricating of a Beretta, live the use of an artists brush. Subbed your channel Roger. Thanks for sharing. All the best from Scotland. Garry
GD thanks and good on you. Happy New Year!
Just received a Silver Pigeon for Christmas. Great video, very informative!
Lauren...great reliable gun...Santa was good to you!!!
I just picked up the 686 and thank you so much, it really helped me.
Jin...congratulations on the new gun...good choice...stay well!
Just purchased the same model. Great video, thank you for sharing your knowledge and time.
I've had mine for 7 months now and it's as solid and reliable as the day I got it...thanks for your comments...stay well...Roger
Nice video Roger. Great maintenance of your shotgun.
Good idea to use a microfiber cloth for the barrels! Now I have a decent use for my old knotted bootlaces....
floyd I've got a proper cleaning kit with those little cloth patches...I just find you have to use too many patches and it takes too long...I just run the cloth through the barrels a couple of times and it cleans them beautifully...the cloth needs a fair bit of muscle to pull it through ...if it's too tight I just cut a little bit of cloth off...stay well...Roger
Great video, used this to clean and grease my Franchi Instinct Sporting
Good stuff!
Roger, thanks for your videos. They are very informative. I just got a 686 a few weeks back. This is good information to help keep it in excellent condition. I especially like the micro towel as opposed to patches! Thanks again.
Marc...Thank you for your kind comments...the 686 is a great gun...I'm about to have my stock made into an adjustable stock...even though it fits me very well with the gel pad on it...stay well...Roger
Thanks a lot for your very nice advice on how to clean !
Very well explain !
Good on you Les! Stay well!
Good video....very helpful ....Southport NC USA
Thanks for the video! The lever on my new silver pigeon is way off to the side and won’t go anywhere near the center. To my knowledge it hasn’t been damaged. It still functions properly to open the action, it just looks very wrong. Any suggestions on how to get it realigned?
On a new gun the lever is to the side...as the gun wears...it will move towards the centre ...to the side is good.
@@rogerpace9322 okay. I'll try not to worry about it. Need to get out and shoot it. Hello from Arizona USA, by the way. I'm new to shooting clays and not very good. There's a sporting clay course near where I live called Rio Salado Sportsman's Club. I really enjoy it even though I'm not very good. So I've been watching several of your videos. Thanks!
Thanks Roger for the excellent video. I’m a french listener…..i don’t understand all…..which spray stuff do you use ? Oil or solvent ? Thanks
I use G96 spray to clean the gun and a combination of grease and oil to lubricate it.. if it turns use grease if it slides use oil stay well and thanks for watching !!!
Very helpful video. Thank you Roger.
Marshall...you are very welcome!
Another great informative video Thanks Roger
Graham...thank you and stay well!
Excellent, informative video Roger.... thank you.... cheers.
Nicely done, ✔️
Thank you! Cheers! Much appreciated ...stay well !!!
Thanks... stay well...Adam
When storing, is there a way to close the action without tensioning the hammer springs or are snap caps needed?
Is it not necessary to use bronze brushes to clean the bore?
Thanks for your no nonsense videos and getting straight to the point without numbing intro or background music.
Michael...I always use snap caps...as far as cleaning the bore i do not like to use those abrasive brushes on such a highly polished barrel...lately i just push through tissues or paper towels through the barrels a few times...i spray the barrels with gun cleaner then push through the tissues ...after 5 or 6 times the barrels are clean...but...make sure you dont leave gun cleaner in the barrels and that there are no tissues left in the barrel!!!
I have just finally acquired my silver pidgeon and not having cleaning rods for it yet I used 100lb fishing leader with a slip knot and an appropriate amount of t shirt material cut to size with a new patch on the surface layer after each pass and I must say I will probably stick with it as the bore has come up wonderfully clean and polished. I must admit to not really caring how long it takes though as I enjoy the process.
Excellent video, thanks.
Thank you very clear instruction
You are welcome!
Nice video. I was watching your other video about the assembly and you mentioned that the lever must be on the open position to avoid the damage?
You are correct...on the cross bolt beretta ...if the lever is not opened you can not assemble the gun,,,good on you !!!
🔴Thank you for very very helpful videos ! 🔴
I was wondering when you first purchased you silver pigeon was the safety very stiff to Actuate between safety on and safety off. Mine is very hard to maneuver. But the barrel selector moves with ease. Do you have any instruction for me. Thank you sir so very much !!!!
Try putting a TINY bit of oil around it
I've had my 686 Onyx pro trap and the manual didn't really state where to grease... (It gave brief mentions yet, never said)
Thanks for the info!
Tanner Man...you are very welcome!
Great video Sir!!!!!! Thank you !!!!!
You are very welcome. Thank you for watching !!!
Nice one Roger. Good tips. Appreciate these videos!
Tad...thank you!
What kind of watch are you wearing, great Vid
Very helpful& informative. Thankyou.
Glad it was helpful! stay well and thank you !!!
Great video. Can you use Ballistol instead of the grease? Would it be okay to use Ballistol on all parts of the gun? Thanks in advance!
Tacosandfrenchfries...with a name like that you're making me hungry...I have never used Ballistol...so I am unable to comment...sorry...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
Roger.....do you use your Beretta 686 Sporting for trap shooting or some other discipline?
Great video! What is the yellow material inside your gun case? Where did you purchase it? My beretta sits lose in its case. I would prefer it to be more secure.
Just a micro fibre cloth to keep the gun snug in its case
This is super handy thank you
Thank you and you are very welcome !!!
Great video Roger
Thank you for the informative video Roger, thou it was published sometime ago, I just ran across it as I have just purchased my first Silver Pigeon 1, I learned much from your video, thank you. A question if you are still there, I find the for-end catch lever to be very stiff to open. It has a rather narrow width and sharp edges, it is so stiff to pull with my finger I cannot apply enough force, so I resort to use a short piece of soft wood to pry it open. Is there a way to oil or grease it ? Will it break in after usage ? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.thanks again for your efforts.
Steve...tight is good but it shouldn't be that tight...oil it really well and also put oil on the hinge that the fore end attaches to on the barrels...open it up with your finger and see if that makes any difference...as a last resort you can use some 1200 wet and dry sand paper to smooth any rough edges that you can see...if there's no improvement then get it looked at...don't pry it open with the wood. It will loosen with use but only open it with your finger ...oil well the hinge on the barrels. Stay well!!!
@@rogerpace9322 Thank you kindly for the info Roger, prior to reading this I applied a tiny bit of gun grease using a Qtip. I chose grease as I thought it would outlast the oil, pulse it is not much exposed to the elements. I applied it to the release catch contacted area only, a very small amount, it is not near the wood as it is well recessed in the metallic catch assembly, also a very thin layer to the lug on the barrel where they mate. Now I can simply use my finger, works well. I will continue to watch and share your videos. Thank you again for the efforts. Much appreciated.
Glad it worked out!!!
Hi
Great explanation on question how often do you need to clean your gin?
I clean it after about 200 shots!!! sometimes less.
Great video Roger. How do you clean the Gun Stock? Which products do you use, and how do you apply them? Thanks
Fernando around the stock where your hand goes the wood can get a bit dirty from our hands...i use a clean cloth with water and a drop of dishwashing detergent...i then put gun oil on a cloth and wipe the whole stock...i dont know if thats the right thing ..but my stock is clean and no damage to it!
@@rogerpace9322 Thanks, I'll try it.
Great video. I have the same gun. At a recent shoot it fired both barrels together. Not a nice experience. Any idea what may cause this.
Tony...no idea...but get the gun looked at by a trusted gunsmith...best wishes and happy shooting
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it Merry Christmas!!
do you clean the wood? if so how and what do you use? love ur videos, keep up the good work!
scott... i just wipe the wood with a microfibre cloth ...you can use ordinary furniture polish ...but do a little test patch under the stock where its not seen ...in case there's some sort of reaction.
Thank you. Very informative.
You are welcome! Happy shooting!!!
Roger I was curious what you do for the wood. I’ve got a used SP1 and it’s really clean but I’m not sure what to do to keep the wood that way. thank you in advance.
I just use a tiny bit of furniture oil on a rag and wipe it down.Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
Great video and very informative! !! But personally i hate to use grease as grease just attract dirt witch then forms and abrasive paste !! As you do mention !! So i avoid it as much as possible! !! In fact grease in any rifle is a big big NO NO !! So i just clean and lubricant with the g96 as it has all 3 components in it !! Cleans , protect and lubricant! !! I only use a tiny tiny tiny bit of grease on the hinge pins and that is is !! Mind you though i do shoot in some harsh dusty places at times !!! But anyway just thought id add the way i do it !!
Sam...good to hear from you...what you say makes a lot of sense...good on you and stay well!
Nice video. I have a question. I just bought a new Beretta 12 Ga 686 Sporting. I shot about 50 shells and what I noticed was that one of the ejectors only pulls the spent shell about half way. Also, by watching your videos I noticed that when you open your 686 it makes a nice click sound, mine doesn't. Is it all of this normal?
Thank you.
Vittorio...give the ejectors a good spray with a good gun cleaner...give it a good oil and see if that makes a difference...there are videos on how to remove the ejectors but only do it if you are confident you can put them back.
@@rogerpace9322 OK. Thank you for your reply. Actually, since I posted my comment I have shot a lot more shells and it seems that it now fails to eject about once every 50 shots, I think I will leave as it is for now. Thank you again for all the great info you put out there.
Do you do anything with the exterior of the barrel and the wood? Does it need anything?
Gabriel...sorry to take so long in answering but i did not see youe question...yes I use furniture polish on the wood...it cleans it and gives it a bit of a shine...the barrels i just spray them with a gun cleaner and lubricant and wipe it down if the gun gets wet it's important to oil between the barrels so you do not get rust forming... thanks for watching and stay well !!!
@@rogerpace9322 Fantastic, thank you as always mate
great video,very helpfull.. Thanks roger
Good on you ...and thank you...much appreciated...stay well...Roger
Great video thank you Roger .
Trippelwood...Thank you for taking the time to comment...stay well...Roger
Hi Roger, thanks for the video. Just one question. Do you ever remove the ejectors to clean them? Cheers. 👍🏼
Never...I just spray them with G96...the only time they get removed is when Beretta do a free service at a major shoot...good on you and stay well!!!
Roger I'm not a big fan of grease I prefer oil. I think it attracts less dirt and grime . Still a good video thanks
The Beretta people would agree with you...thanks for taking the time to comment...stay well...Roger
I forgot to say that John Travolta and Olivia Newton John would not be happy to hear that you are not a fan of "GREASE"
thank you.
You're welcome and thank you!!!
Hi. I was wondering if you can give me some advice. I have a Beretta white onyx 686 over under. It’s only a few months out of the factory and stored inside. When I was cleaning it at the weekend I noticed some surface rust on the barrel tips on the bare steel. Can you advise how to clean and remove this and stop it coming back? Any help appreciated.
A normal gun cleaner will get rid of the surface rust...wipe it off with a cloth...all the metal bits need to be gently wiped over with a slightly oily rag and that will stop the rust from coming back you can also buy special wiping cloths to wipe down your gun every time you use it and put it away...stay well!
Roger Pace Thanks Roger. I just didn’t expect it to happen so quickly on a new gun. I have been apply the beretta gun oil after a clean. Can I use the same note cleaner I use on the end part? Thanks for your reply.
my over under is new I've only shot about 250 rounds through it quite often the second barrel fails to fire. it doesn't matter which one I fire first I think it's a light primer strike do you have other suggestions other than the ammo
boricua...no suggestions...I would take it to where I bought it and they can send it back to the manufacturer.
Should I oil/grease new 687 before first shoot?
Yes I do'nt think they come pregreased .
Sir for me cleaning my gun is like bathing my baby.... Im sure same it is for you ! Cheers
Yes...you certainly feel better after cleaning your gun...its calming!!!
What means 2 ..
Shoot 2 in 1 shoot or top first and down ?
Bottom barrel shoots first unless you can move your safety lever sideways to change it. Thanks for watching and stay well !!!
Great Video My Friend! and good cleaning! Saluti dall'Italia! =D
Thank you and stay well ...happy shooting in my homeland...Roger
Thank You Roger Great Vid.
+Craig Wickham Craig ...thank you for your kind comments... i'm glad you liked it ...its good to get some feedback...happy shooting best wishes ...roger
Excellent
Thank you!
Roger , do you oil the outside of the barrels/breach and leave a light film on when storing in your gun safe between shoots , and what about the timber stock and for-end , do you use anything to preserve the timber ?
+Nokharma Yes I oil the outside of the barrels with gun oil and then wipe them down with a cloth... my gun is fairly new and a few weeks ago I used a tiny bit of furniture oil on the stock and fore end then wiped it off with a cloth...I try to avoid getting gun oil on the timber... they say the oil will make the timber go soft ...but I think it would take many years for the oil to do any real damage to the wood...when the gun is in its case I store it with the receiver facing down so that oil does not run back into the mechanism...I used to have an old shotgun that was drowned in oil and the timber was never affected...the oil just makes the wood go a bit darker...best wishes and happy shooting...Roger
is their any adjustments on the ejector so they don't fly out of the barrels on my 686 12 gauge silver pigeon
Roderick...I'm pretty sure the silver pigeons can't be adjusted to extract only...stay well
@@rogerpace9322 I know it was posted a long time ago but I think beretta sells mod kits to change them to extractors. I just got used to keep my thumb over the shells when it ejects.
Do you happen to know if the Beretta factory oil is petroleum based or synthetic and if it matters in the choice of grease should one choose that option?
603ER I do not know about the oil but i use the beretta oil and a white grease from the gun shop
Hello. I have question. Can I put grease b4 shooting and then after when i clean it just cover those parts with oil, nice oil coat.. Im not using often.
basementgainz...yes you can run an oily rag over all the metal parts...if you oil the inside of the barrels ...make sure you run a dry rag through the barrels to get rid of the oil before firing...stay well!
Roger send a photo of the grease with which you greased the gun
Vital...it's Tetra Gun Grease...comes in a white tube.!!!!
Roger Pace thanks
I prefer to use CLP on the ejectors before shooting the gun for the day. With clp, the dirtier it gets, the better it works against carbon fouling and greasy gunk.
As long as you use something...good on you and thanks for watching !!!
have the 1996 model and its still as tight as the day it was bought
Dave...yes...and many people would say it's the best value shotgun on the market!
Wish I could say the same about me wife! Sorry, couldn't resist
Where’s all of the obnoxious music? Great video.
I know what you mean, i've turned of many videos due to the so called music. All we need is the natural audio relevant to the video.
what about cleaning and maintaining the oil finished wood stock and fore end?
massey...don't take this as advice but i just rub down the wood with a bit of gun oil on a rag...i have also used furniture polish ...but always try it out on a part of the stock that is not readily seen
How often are you cleaning your 686?
Bob...good to hear from you...if I am going to shoot the next day or the day after...I do not clean the gun...I wipe all the grease off and regrease the gun when going out to shoot the next day or so...I always store the gun ungreased and grease it up when I get to the club...stay well!
Thank you for taking time to do a video.. but please please do not grease your shotguns. Grease attracts dirt and then every time you shoot deposits get trapped in the grease so when you reload it scratches and abrasions your gun damaging it. Only a very very light coating of oil for rust prevention is needed. The parts of your shotgun will never ware out even with no oil because they are built with hardened metals that will never ware each other out but only work better with time. Your gun will last a lot longer with no grease. I hope this doesn't anger anyone as we are all here to help each other.
Many happy years of shooting everyone!
Mus...have you seen that musical...Grease is the word...I'm interested in your concept that metal on metal won't cause wear!
Hi Roger.. do you mean as in Grease Lightening the film i used to love back in the day?
That's the one...my friend!
@@rogerpace9322 He's right thou, grease is bad for the gun, it will form an abrasive. Use the beretta oil only. But you are also right. Metal on metal is bad. With the oil only the gun should last you 100 000 shots or more before you need a new set of hingepins or any gap adjustmens. Another thing is my 686 SP is not only for skeet, I hunt alot with it in -10 to -25 degrees, that grease would be hard as hell.
what would you clean the wood with and external barrel..
Gkir1...I have used a liquid furniture polish on the wood...and gun oil on the barrels then wipe them down with a rag...stay well...Roger
G'day, Where do you buy your grease and G96 from? Cheers.
BZilliA...I buy it from the adelaide gun shop in gouger street...a big tin costs about $30 but it lasts a long time...stay well...Roger
What chokes do you use?
Joakim...In DTL Trap ...I use modified and improved modified (top barrel) Yesterday... (not trying to brag) ... I won the 25 target double barrel with a score of 23/25 and I came second in the 50 target double event..in C grade. I use no 8's in the bottom barrel and 71/2 in the top barrel. The beretta sporter does not come with a full ckoke otherwise i would use improved modified and full ie 3/4 and full stay well...Roger
Just came back from my Beretta dealer/gunsmith. You should NOT - as in NEVER - grease or lubricate the locking pins or holes that they go into. As backwards as it sounds, doing so can actually decrease their usefulness. I had to have mine replaced after just 11,000 rounds.....
I guess that's because as they wear the pins go further into the hole...very interesting...good on you!
I hunt dove in the deserts of Arizona with my 687 and if I used that much grease on the gun, it would be so caked up with fine dust and gunk that it would make the gun worse for cleaning. All that grease literally everywhere is an attractant to fine dust and that’s not good for the action of the gun.
Very true...you probably just use the spray lubricant...I just go to the club and there is no dust...good point...thank you for watching !!!
I had (still have) a defective silver pigeon 20 ga ..fails to fire the second barrel about 1/3 of the time... the company representative would not even discuss further repair or replacement after an alleged repair effort that was not successful ...and doubt it was even halfway attempted.......never would have imagined the rudeness of the Beretta representative....I'll never buy another...never. I've dealt in firearms for some 40 plus years here in middle Tennessee and northern Alabama with many different firearm makers who were more than willing to do what was necessary ...to make that rare repair or replacement....but not Beretta..not them...acted as if they were too good to help........I still get angry thinking about the way I was treated...the gun is practically unsaleable and in fact, is too dangerous to use .....buyer beware of this company if you ever encounter an issue.
I do not doubt your bad experience...but here in Australia Beretta is pretty good with their after sales service...try a different representative or tell him you will complain direct to beretta in Italy. Stay well !!!
Have learnt my first cleaning routine from you! Here is another video showing a quick cleaning routine of the Silver Pigeon 1: ua-cam.com/video/f0u-Qxox9vE/v-deo.html
Great video. I'm gonna use this info for cleaning/lubing my 1973 Browning Citori. Again, good job on the vid.
thank you
You are very welcome>