AtomRC Penguin: Build and Flying Review!

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  • Опубліковано 2 гру 2024

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  • @Painless360
    @Painless360  Рік тому +5

    for all those struggling to use the link to the Diff All file -
    # version
    # INAV/ATOMRCF405NAVI 6.1.1 Jun 13 2023 / 10:02:51 (42ced253)
    # GCC-10.2.1 20201103 (release)
    # WARNING - USE WITH CAUTION, NO MODES OR OSD LAYOUT IN THIS FILE
    # ALSO - BE AWARE THAT AUTOLAUNCH IS ON ALL THE TIME AND THE PROPS ARE SET TO SPIN ON THROTTLE UP
    # Mixer: motor mixer
    mmix reset
    mmix 0 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
    mmix 1 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
    # Mixer: servo mixer
    smix reset
    smix 0 1 0 80 0 -1
    smix 1 2 0 80 0 -1
    smix 2 3 1 80 0 -1
    # Outputs [servo]
    servo 1 1000 2000 1539 -100
    servo 2 1000 2000 1479 -100
    servo 3 1000 2000 1426 100
    servo 4 1000 2000 1500 -100
    servo 6 1000 2000 1500 -100
    # safehome
    # features
    feature MOTOR_STOP
    feature GPS
    feature PWM_OUTPUT_ENABLE
    feature FW_LAUNCH
    feature FW_AUTOTRIM
    # beeper
    # blackbox
    blackbox -NAV_ACC
    blackbox NAV_POS
    blackbox NAV_PID
    blackbox MAG
    blackbox ACC
    blackbox ATTI
    blackbox RC_DATA
    blackbox RC_COMMAND
    blackbox MOTORS
    blackbox -GYRO_RAW
    blackbox -PEAKS_R
    blackbox -PEAKS_P
    blackbox -PEAKS_Y
    # Receiver: Channel map
    map AETR
    # Ports
    serial 0 0 115200 115200 0 115200
    serial 3 2 115200 115200 0 115200
    serial 4 33554432 115200 115200 0 115200
    # LEDs
    # LED color
    # LED mode_color
    # Modes [aux]
    # Adjustments [adjrange]
    # Receiver rxrange
    # temp_sensor
    # Mission Control Waypoints [wp]
    #wp 0 invalid
    # OSD [osd_layout]
    # Programming: logic
    # Programming: global variables
    # Programming: PID controllers
    # master
    set gyro_main_lpf_hz = 25
    set dynamic_gyro_notch_q = 250
    set dynamic_gyro_notch_min_hz = 30
    set gyro_zero_y = -2
    set ins_gravity_cmss = 997.973
    set acc_hardware = BMI270
    set acczero_x = -15
    set acczero_y = 8
    set acczero_z = -11
    set accgain_x = 4098
    set accgain_y = 4086
    set accgain_z = 4100
    set align_mag = CW270FLIP
    set mag_hardware = NONE
    set baro_hardware = SPL06
    set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT600
    set failsafe_procedure = RTH
    set align_board_yaw = 1800
    set platform_type = AIRPLANE
    set has_flaps = ON
    set model_preview_type = 14
    set servo_pwm_rate = 100
    set small_angle = 180
    set ahrs_inertia_comp_method = ADAPTIVE
    set applied_defaults = 3
    set gps_sbas_mode = AUTO
    set gps_ublox_use_galileo = ON
    set airmode_type = STICK_CENTER_ONCE
    set nav_extra_arming_safety = ON
    set nav_wp_radius = 5000
    set nav_wp_max_safe_distance = 500
    set nav_rth_allow_landing = NEVER
    set nav_rth_altitude = 7000
    set nav_fw_control_smoothness = 2
    set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 150
    set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1500
    set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 180
    set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 100
    set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 10000
    set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 5000
    set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 25
    set osd_video_system = AVATAR
    set osd_units = IMPERIAL
    set osd_time_alarm = 20
    set osd_alt_alarm = 110
    set osd_home_position_arm_screen = OFF
    set osd_switch_indicators_align_left = OFF
    # profile
    profile 1
    set fw_p_pitch = 15
    set fw_i_pitch = 5
    set fw_d_pitch = 5
    set fw_ff_pitch = 80
    set fw_p_roll = 15
    set fw_i_roll = 3
    set fw_d_roll = 7
    set fw_p_yaw = 50
    set fw_i_yaw = 0
    set fw_d_yaw = 20
    set fw_ff_yaw = 255
    set max_angle_inclination_rll = 450
    set dterm_lpf_hz = 10
    set fw_turn_assist_pitch_gain = 0.400
    set nav_fw_pos_z_p = 25
    set nav_fw_pos_z_d = 8
    set nav_fw_pos_xy_p = 55
    set d_boost_min = 1.000
    set d_boost_max = 1.000
    set rc_expo = 30
    set rc_yaw_expo = 30
    set roll_rate = 18
    set pitch_rate = 9
    set yaw_rate = 3
    # profile
    profile 2
    set fw_p_pitch = 15
    set fw_i_pitch = 5
    set fw_d_pitch = 5
    set fw_ff_pitch = 96
    set fw_p_roll = 15
    set fw_i_roll = 3
    set fw_d_roll = 7
    set fw_ff_roll = 40
    set fw_p_yaw = 50
    set fw_i_yaw = 0
    set fw_d_yaw = 20
    set fw_ff_yaw = 255
    set max_angle_inclination_rll = 600
    set max_angle_inclination_pit = 600
    set dterm_lpf_hz = 10
    set fw_turn_assist_pitch_gain = 0.400
    set nav_fw_pos_z_p = 25
    set nav_fw_pos_z_d = 8
    set nav_fw_pos_xy_p = 55
    set d_boost_min = 1.000
    set d_boost_max = 1.000
    set fw_level_pitch_trim = 2.000
    set rc_expo = 30
    set rc_yaw_expo = 30
    set roll_rate = 31
    set pitch_rate = 13
    set yaw_rate = 3
    # profile
    profile 3
    set fw_p_pitch = 15
    set fw_i_pitch = 5
    set fw_d_pitch = 5
    set fw_ff_pitch = 80
    set fw_p_roll = 15
    set fw_i_roll = 3
    set fw_d_roll = 7
    set fw_p_yaw = 50
    set fw_i_yaw = 0
    set fw_d_yaw = 20
    set fw_ff_yaw = 255
    set max_angle_inclination_rll = 450
    set dterm_lpf_hz = 10
    set fw_turn_assist_pitch_gain = 0.400
    set nav_fw_pos_z_p = 25
    set nav_fw_pos_z_d = 8
    set nav_fw_pos_xy_p = 55
    set d_boost_min = 1.000
    set d_boost_max = 1.000
    set rc_expo = 30
    set rc_yaw_expo = 30
    set roll_rate = 18
    set pitch_rate = 9
    set yaw_rate = 3
    # battery_profile
    battery_profile 1
    # battery_profile
    battery_profile 2
    # battery_profile
    battery_profile 3

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes Рік тому

      AtomRC's site has a FPV pan/tilt unit, they replied to a comment and said it will fit on the Penguin,... What was that about forest runs again? :D

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      Video on the AtomRC pan and tilt on the channel..Happy flying

  • @jamesemery1
    @jamesemery1 Рік тому +7

    The speed envelope is huge. 3.5a at 30mph is very good!!! and flat out 70mph at 35a is pretty good aswell

  • @johnchandler4565
    @johnchandler4565 Рік тому +5

    The nose cone for HD FPV gear is brilliant and I do like twin motors. Thanks for the review Lee, the Penguin is now on my shopping list.

    • @johnchandler4565
      @johnchandler4565 Рік тому +2

      The Penguin is no longer on my shopping list, it's now in transit from AtomRC ;-). I haven't, however, been able to access your Diff file Lee; Dropbox is telling me I need to request your authority to access the file?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +2

      Try the link again. Should work now..
      (I've also pinned it here in the comments too!)

  • @ericwright7570
    @ericwright7570 7 місяців тому

    Hi there. I may have commented a couple times in other posts but not a lot. I want to let you know that I flew my Penguin for two days (over two hours video footage) at a large RC electric flight festival in Georgia, USA last weekend. It was my first FPV plane and probably only my fourth RC plane. Everyone was asking me how I did this all by myself ;)
    I told them that Painless 360 and a few other UA-camrs were all I used. Along with wine and beer and tequilas and bad soldering😂
    I’m so excited to have an awesome FPV platform now. Looking forward to improving everything.
    Oh yes, your introduction to INAV and ELRS videos have been the most helpful things for me as well.
    I’m running ELRS 2.4 GHz,INAV 7.1. Walksnail X FPV. Upgrading goggle antennas next.

  • @birdmantelly007
    @birdmantelly007 Рік тому

    Loved the view from above shots. Happy to hear you nail the control throw issues. It should not be delivered in Acro Mode !!!

  • @julianhumphrey4843
    @julianhumphrey4843 Рік тому +1

    great review, i really do see me getting this model to fly from the garden out over the fields

  • @johncarold
    @johncarold Рік тому +2

    I think I'm looking at my next FPV plane. Thanks for the build and flight video,

  • @smackfpv
    @smackfpv Рік тому

    Great review Lee. I am surprised at how well it seemed to fly. For the VTOL guys, this may be a winner.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +3

      I was too. My flying buddy who helped with the video wants one after seeing it fly (and he had seen a lot of planes/wings of mine in the last two years!)

  • @wattage2007
    @wattage2007 Рік тому +1

    Excellent review. Quite fancy one although I think I’d print something to close off the nose a bit, while allowing adequate airflow.

  • @mr_batch
    @mr_batch Рік тому

    Thanks for this nice Review!
    And btw, it`s very helpfuy that you post the Diff, it will help a lot of new Pilots to setup Inav!
    Happy flyin` 👍✌

  • @GhostRyderFPV
    @GhostRyderFPV Рік тому +3

    _"That's not great."_ @ 3:38
    I'm not sure why, but this is the funniest thing I've heard all morning.
    As for the plane, I want to take a big hole-saw to the tail, slap in some Xiake motor tilt mechanisms, and convert this thing into a VTOL.
    The cooling the FPV nosecone affords is fantastic, but putting all of the expensive stuff in the... crashiest?... part of a plane is a no-go for me, but there are lots of options. I have a feeling that, like the Alpha and Delta planes AtomRC released last year, we'll see this on sale. Maybe then? The Dolphin's place in my trunk is secure, for now. As always Sir, thank you for the complete A to Z review and test.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +2

      I wasn't a big fan of the Alpha and Delta planes (the Delta in particular was a car wreak). There was a very good reason they went into the sales - they were not great.
      This is nothing like those things.. Happy flying!

    • @GhostRyderFPV
      @GhostRyderFPV Рік тому +2

      @@Painless360 I hope you're right, it's the looks of it that I think may turn some off - though my fiance insists it's the cutest "widdle pwane I've ewar seen", (though she has questionable taste, at best).

  • @DavidReynolds-kr6yh
    @DavidReynolds-kr6yh Рік тому +2

    Flying it like you stole it and still getting 20+ minutes is awesome. I like it, it does look different and a little strange, but I don’t mind that at all . I’d probably go crossfire, and,because I have a googles 2, a dji O3 video camera. Id be able to do some great distance flying with really great video footage, and with my penchant for both cruising and high speed flying, by the time I got it back, id be ready for a breather lol.

    • @bugsy742
      @bugsy742 Рік тому +1

      I’m going with Xfire too mate 🤗👍

  • @rfly-fpv
    @rfly-fpv Рік тому

    I'm coming from FPV world and have few 4S R-Line 1550 mAh batteries. What flight time should I expect? 10:05 seems like it takes 8 A of current at 50% throttle so 10 minutes should be doable right? Do you have any experience in connecting two 1550 mAh 4S lipos together to extend that time? :D

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/d1ejhtPQrao/v-deo.html explains how to figure it out. Cruise speed changes the current draw dramatically. Half the speed uses a lot less than half the current... Happy flying!

  • @Raketemensch42
    @Raketemensch42 Рік тому +2

    Let’s say that you can fit this or the Dolphin in the boot for a nice afternoon, which would you grab?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +6

      For me, the Dolphin (but I'd put this in the passenger footwell... 😁) Happy flying

  • @beyondfossil
    @beyondfossil 7 місяців тому

    Excellent overview. Anyone know if iNav do yaw axis stabilization with those twin motors though?
    Because I can add in rudder input into the motor mix table in iNav 7.1 to get differential rudder control by the pilot. But iNav doesn't appear to support *yaw axis stabilization* using just motors because it only allows selecting servos in the stabilization section for _any_ axis. Any way to get around this?
    It's a shame to not get yaw axis control _and_ stabilization for essentially free on a twin motor plane like this Penguin!

  • @roge8152
    @roge8152 Рік тому +1

    Would it be worth looking at motor upgrades for more speed? How are the motor mounts?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      Similar to the Swordfish. Pitch on the blades is only 2.5" so lots of room for more. But, I'd get another model if speed is your thing..

  • @VladTepes44
    @VladTepes44 Рік тому +1

    It is a bit sad that they did not include any quick connector for the wing servos, but it still looks like a very nice plane. I wonder how simple it would be to add your own.
    How does the noise level compare to the Dolphin, Swordfish and T1 Ranger?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      Similar to the Swordfish. See the ratings for those models in my review videos for them... Happy flying

    • @Tommyjames21
      @Tommyjames21 Рік тому +1

      If it's like the swordfish so there is no noise at all!

    • @VladTepes44
      @VladTepes44 Рік тому

      @@Tommyjames21 I would not call my swordfish silent.

    • @Tommyjames21
      @Tommyjames21 Рік тому +3

      @@VladTepes44 really? I have ar wing pro, dolphin and swordfish, and the last one is really silent.....at 30-40% throttle, it's really silent....

  • @MacGregorMforsaleinIowa
    @MacGregorMforsaleinIowa Рік тому

    Have you tried to use TBS Crossfire on any of your airplanes? If so, do you have a set up video for this? Thank you

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      I do. See my Crossfire series... Happy flying

  • @paulhope3401
    @paulhope3401 Місяць тому

    Why would the FC being directly on CG be preferable?
    If its just measuring angle I'm struggling to understand how it would make difference.
    Thanks.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Місяць тому

      It doesn't make a huge difference... But imagine if you are sat in the center of a rotating roundabout, all you feel is the rotation. Imagine now sitting on the edge of the same spinning roundabour. You now feel rotation and sideways movement too... Happy flying

  • @tksamac
    @tksamac 9 місяців тому

    I am liking my other two atomrc planes. However, I want to use a Cube Orange on a wing configuration. My question is will it fit?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  9 місяців тому

      Depends on the wing! You can run Ardupilot on non-CUBE hardware now too if you are tight for space.. Best of luck.

    • @tksamac
      @tksamac 9 місяців тому

      @@Painless360 I have a cube orange already with no plane to go in, so that is what I wanted to try in this penguin. It looks like it could fit

  • @2theMAXtheStairFax
    @2theMAXtheStairFax 5 місяців тому

    Hi P
    I know you bought the PNP model but i bought the KIT model and im having ESC issues. I've been through 4 different ESCs and they all suck. I am running a 6In GEMFAN Flash prop on my penguin and 220X sized motors. RDQ 2-6S 25A BLS on Bluejay (had to increase startup power, works but has desyncs and spins out sometimes) Lumenier Razor F3 Pro BL32 (smoked the motor and esc just by blipping the throttle up) Lumenier 51A BL32 (Smoked the motor again, same side, new motors 2400KV to 1900KV, 4S to 6S, smoked the motor again) APISQUEEN BLS 45A on Bluejay (Cant get the Motors to spin no matter how much startup power i give).
    What do you think the issue is? What ESC and Settings should i use? Thanks

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 місяців тому

      That does sound odd, I've never had something like that happen here. The only thing I may play with is the brake for those models where I want the prop to not 'free-wheel' for landing...

  • @WinstonSmith1984
    @WinstonSmith1984 Рік тому +1

    It's a pity that it doesn't include landing gear for example integrated into the motor mounts. I live in a hot dry semi desert area where there is no green grass to be found, with only asphalt and stoney dirt roads being suitable to land on.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +2

      You could use tape to re-enforce the belly and wing-tips or/and use the cable-tie trick (cut the ends of a beefy cable-tie and glue them under the body to create a bow shape to act as gear)...

    • @WinstonSmith1984
      @WinstonSmith1984 Рік тому

      @@Painless360Thanks good idea. I was also thinking of molding a cut out of a PET plastic bottle to the belly using a hot air dryer but the heat may damage the foam. Or I may have to create a mold first using PU spray foam and mold the plastic into that.

  • @ab7rs
    @ab7rs Рік тому

    Have you any recommendations for more accurate battery numbers to plug into INAV?
    Love my penguin 😊

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      Not sure what you are asking for. What is the issue?

    • @ab7rs
      @ab7rs Рік тому

      current scale to make draw readings accurate.
      @@Painless360

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      Ah I see, Darren did a great video on how to easily set it right - ua-cam.com/video/inmYVBpaWPw/v-deo.html

  • @swunnink
    @swunnink Рік тому

    I noticed in INAV that the pitch and roll are inverted. So when I lift the nose up of my plane, in INAV (setup tab) the nose goes down. Same for roll for left and right wing.
    How can this be fixed? Searching Google did not help me.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      Please see my INAV for beginners 2023 series
      ua-cam.com/video/lxVd4LnHDjQ/v-deo.html

  • @tk-maker
    @tk-maker Рік тому

    Great review, I am eyeing this as my next wing. Do you recommends this or Flying Fish for beginners?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      Both are nice options but the swordfish is easier to see for LOS practice..

  • @nmrlab3807
    @nmrlab3807 Рік тому

    I have setup the differential thrust for the twin plane on yaw/rudder channel. Is INAV going to use it for autopilot modes (RTH, CRUZ, etc.)? Thank you.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      Depends how you have it setup. I'm not a fan of differential thrust for automated flight modes in INAV... Best of luck

  • @Glenn.J
    @Glenn.J Рік тому

    Fantastic video lee. Will the pan system from atomrc fit this somewhere?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      Yes, on the other battery canopy (the one shown fitted in the unboxing)..

    • @Glenn.J
      @Glenn.J Рік тому

      Awesome

  • @visioneerone
    @visioneerone Рік тому

    I also have a Penguin on order :) Really like the nosecone for HD FPV gear as I hate having to hack up a supposedly "designed for FPV" airframe in order to install gear.
    Would really be nice if AtomRC updated their other designs to make use of this nosecone...

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      I agree! A Dolphin PRO maybe? :D

  • @hoagietime1
    @hoagietime1 Рік тому

    This scaled down to a 2s sub 250 park flyer would be interesting.

  • @haustiersteinfpv9181
    @haustiersteinfpv9181 Рік тому

    How would you compare de Penguin to the Dolphin? I'm not sure which one to get. Both look stable but agile and able to fly stable somewhat slow and mid speed.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      Both are fab, as is the Swordfish. It depends on what you want to do with it.. I have reviews for each that score their abilities in a way that makes direct comparison a lot easier... I've been asked this a few times so, maybe I'll make a video on it.. best of luck

  • @MrMPod
    @MrMPod Рік тому

    Can you say a little more about the battery test pack LiIon? What kind of cell you are useing to build it?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +2

      It'll fit both 21700 and 18650 LiIon packs. See my video on the 21700 pack.... Happy flying

    • @PilotChris06FW
      @PilotChris06FW Рік тому

      ​@@Painless360Hi, quick question about batteries. Why use Li ion in planes as opposed to LiPo in Helis? I was always under the impression that LiPo was superior in capacities and power output. Do I have this all wrong?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      If you Google 'li-ion painless360' you'll find my videos that cover that exact thing. Best of luck!

  • @superhappyfun.1
    @superhappyfun.1 Рік тому

    I heard that the V1 Walksnail VTX could interfere with the GPS. Did you have any issues with GPS connectivity?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      None. A little physical seperation and it's solid.

  • @The_Pub_
    @The_Pub_ Рік тому

    The massive throws are what you need in a dog fight. Drop the throttle Yank, Bank, Loop and Roll. Then punch the gas again.
    It's probably not what you need flying RC planes though...

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      I'm sure, that for some pilots, it would be fab! Videos of it threading through trees like a quad in the promotional videos form AtomRC...

  • @humbertomontalban3932
    @humbertomontalban3932 Рік тому

    Nice

  • @billyd78
    @billyd78 9 місяців тому

    Are props turning in better?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  9 місяців тому +1

      Two schools of thought. My opinion is that I prefer any items hit by the prop on landing not to be shot into the side of the canopy... Happy flying

  • @testpilotian3188
    @testpilotian3188 Рік тому

    What is AHRS? Altitude hold ..?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      If you are using fixed wing, you should add this new parameter - set ahrs_inertia_comp_method = ADAPTIVE

  • @nikotttin
    @nikotttin Рік тому

    Would you say this is a model suitable for beginners?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      'Learner' models get smashed and abused. This would work but there are cheaper options that would take smashes better..

  • @irvine40
    @irvine40 Рік тому

    Penguin or swordfish what do you prefer?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +3

      Depends on what I want. Swordfish is a lot larger and more glider like... Happy flying

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому +1

      Preview just for you ;) ua-cam.com/video/EjZfKn2qHBg/v-deo.html

  • @JamesManimal
    @JamesManimal Рік тому

    where.... do you put all these airplanes? lol

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  Рік тому

      Prizes, donations and gifts take care of a lot. The rest, stay here and get flown... Happy flying

  • @chrispfligler5892
    @chrispfligler5892 8 місяців тому

    Let’s see some tailsitter inav content! Be the first with a tutorial!

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  8 місяців тому

      Not supported yet. You need 7.1 IAV for tail-sitters...

  • @anthonystownsend
    @anthonystownsend Рік тому

    It looks like it's screaming for a VTOL conversion.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Рік тому

    Brilliant little airplane, Lee! 😃
    Fantastic flying and review!!!
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊