Yes, and furthermore: ( if I may) If they continue to follow you, harass you. Call 911 and drive toward a PD or municipal complex. Do not get out of the car.Keep dispatch on the phone. Try to stay calm.
and never get out when you did it and approach a person in car in fl lot of both licensed and no constitutional carrying citizens are also armed . but you may only fire when threatened and once aggressions is over then its over you cannot fire again. sadly police officers are being caught doing several thing brake checking when you jam breaks on another car behind not just tapping the break lights actually stopping on a highway should not only be driver offence ,but criminal up to felony and the common law about rear enduing is the following cars fault when break checking is involved . but with the shooters record and requirements his having a firearm will make the prosecutors job better
@@KGIVwrong. Was he a victim yes, but he started it making him the aggressor. He threw a punch at a stranger over a traffic problem. He's the aggressor
Yep, but some of us old folks are sick & tired of this BS driving, I see it ALL the time, reckless drivers, speeding, running stop signs & red lights and hardly ever see the Police ENFORCING the laws
Why get out the car to fight a youngster. I'm not making excuses but 2 wrongs don't make it right. But just like you arrested this young you all should arrest the that white man for beating the black lady that his dog poop on her lawn when she was watering her lawn he is still stalking her. The privilege is overwhelming. But this young needs to pay for his stupidity.
RIP to the elder man BUT why are they making him so innocent in this case. He approached the young guy! They way the sheriff looked into the camera saying this poor elderly gentleman was beyond comprehension. What would he be saying if things were flipped? I’m so sorry this man lost his life and the young guy didn’t have to shoot him. However he was the aggressor. RIP!
@@starcrib I appreciate the comment, I was being sarcastic, I actually believe guns make the world very dangerous, because gun makers and gun lobbyist want every idiot with a 2nd amendment right to buy a gun for profit so they can get richer.
@@hpharridan a felon has no right to own a gun so how can he argue that he got out with a gun to defend himself?? Obviously he had the gun cause he knew he was going to kill which would explain the last shots he took to make sure he killed the old guy.
My daughter lives in clearwater, when go to visit, it never fails being cut off numerous times, being forced out of my lane by being cut off, had idiots pull out in front of me. My 52 years of being an over the road truck driver dictates the fact that 95% of the drivers on the road in that area have no business driving a vehicle.
He shot a man in the back! I Hope he goes away for a long time. The elderly man was wrong but he didn't deserve to get murdered over that. The murderer is a danger to society . R.I.P. prayers for his grandson & family.
@giantrottskennels6460 where have we heard of people getting so bent out of shape about someone getting it in the back? There were riots in the streets. But those same people will justify this... lol I'm not surprised...
i agree but when a jury sees you had a secure vehichle and the attacker only had fists you cant jump the ladder from fists to guns and use it.if you are going to engage the agressor you have to use reasonable force as much as i dont always agree with the laws
I hate to break it to ya cupcake but the first shot was illegal, murder. Shooting someone that's on their hands and knees in the back! Seriously is OK with you?
@@patriotcountry4716 This is a reading comprehension problem. 1 Both men stupid 2 LAST two shots make in murder 3 I wrote nothing about the first four shots. 3A But these could be CLAIMED to be self defense and not pre-meditated (manslaughter) but that is still twenty-five years 4A The last two were execution and premeditated. That makes it murder / not manslaughter Which makes the first four shots moot and why I did not mention them in my original post
As a Floridian driver I'm just sick of everybody with their impatience, I have people flicking me off literally face turning red of anger because of me doing 3 mph over the speed limit it's not fast enough for them. I don't know if it's all the freaking drugs people are in a rush to get, idk but I really hate driving here.
Or if I’m turning in to a parking lot I have someone on my tail and have turned on signal in plenty of time. You all in your ridiculous pick up trucks are nothing but bullies!
If you’re in the left lane doing the speed limit and someone comes up behind you, move to the next lane. Having people swerve around another car causes more deaths than going straight at a high rate of speed. In parts of Florida, if you tie up our tourists, you’ll get a ticket for not moving over for the car that is going faster, probably on their way to make sure Floridians don’t have to pay state income taxes. Logic is our best friend.
That poor grandson. Grandpa should've known better. No matter how pissed off you might be, LET IT GO. The suspect is a coward, he shot the guy IN THE BACK multiple times.
@@mkatnileb2439Yes, it's actually all the point. He was weaving in and out of traffic almost hitting the older guy. Had he not been "Driving" like that, none of this would've happened. 5 shots into the back of a 60 year old is defence you say? Your a F ing moron if you think that is self defense
There is no police presence anywhere around there. I drive RT75 to Tampa everyday and haven't seen a cop in months anywhere. I see drivers doing well over 100mph, driving with no lights, swerving in and out of traffic and tailgating/brake checking. Contractor trucks are the worst....FHP needs to do their jobs and identify these types of drivers and do something.
They don't seem to do anything about traffic violations anymore. On my way to downtown yesterday I saw a hit and run in Brandon, and then a wrong way driver in downtown on a one way almost take out a pedestrian. No cops anywhere.
Oh how nice of him to completely describe the victim and his actions as a poor elderly yet angry homicide victim. Unfortunate situation but stay in your cars nothing is worth losing your life over. Road rage is a demon
Yeah usually they get on the person that gets out of the car first. Wonder why this time nothing is said negative about the old guy who got out of the car and swung on the young one. hmmm.
@@davidcalhoun3235 He did, he admitted right up front the old man took the first swing. But at the point of the old man falling down and being on his hands and knees he was no longer a threat in the eyes of the law. The fact that the young man shot him in the back MULTIPLE TIMES TO ASSURE THE OLD MAN WAS DEAD as he was kneeling on the pavement is what SHOULD have led the rabid criminal to being charged with the highest level of murder we have with the DEATH PENALTY being mandatory! The young man is a COWARD! What kind of "man" shoots an old man in the back as he kneels on the ground struggling? And then to make it worse he SHOT TWICE MORE TO MAKE SURE HIS EXECUTION WAS COMPLETE!! And here you are bitching because the cops did not berate and vilify a 60 something year old murder victim because he dared get out and protest someone road raging! YES the old man is at fault for escalating the situation... But don't you think he PAID ENOUGH FOR HIS MISTAKES? WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE YOU HAPPY? JUST TOSSING THE OLD MANS CORPSE INTO A DITCH AND LETTING THE MURDER GO? OR FOR THE COPS AND THE MEDIA TO PAINT THE OLD MAN AS THE ABSOLUTE ANTAGONIST AND THE MURDERER AS THE VILLAIN?
Why did he got out from the car ? Not very smart. People in Florida are mad and most of us are packing ……. I would had never gotten out and just ignored the offender.
@@michellewalters4484Most of us are packing to protect ourselves from people like the suspect. FL is a huge state, and a lot of crazies come down here from other places, running/hiding from their problems. The majority of us are sensible, nice people who you would never suspect that we’re carrying for protection.
I couldn’t follow the sheriff’s story. Just be direct and straight to the point. Rule number 1 don’t get out of your car. Rule number 2, license to carry is a must as soon as anyone approaches you in an aggressive manner.
@@JamieHayes6982 Well why did the old man got out of car, getting all aggressive with someone you don't even know how crazy they are. Sorry, but that first decision was the end of his life. People, gather information and call police, don't let your ego get the best of you..🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@ellalopez7636 it has nothing to do with ego. You can’t shoot somebody and that’s a use of force that’s greater than what the other guy did. You don’t understand.
If the gun was in mamma's home she should be arrested too, being on felony probo. I need to know whether mamma committed a violent act as a convicted crime and is on public housing, she must be removed by law.
A convicted person have a legal right and responsibility to defend their families because we all Americans.The states are violating everybody gun rights.I agree everyone to have a gun to protect their families even if they convicted felons. You don't agree? you a coward not brave not real American. You scared? maybe it's time to go back to grammas country.
What a psycho honking the horn is a regular occurrence here in FL and if that bruises your fragile ego GO GET SOME HELP!! Condolences to the family members may they all find peace in this unfortunate outcome.
This is so horrible and completely senseless. My heart goes out to the families on both sides. Dude just threw his whole life away at 26 for nothing. And obviously the victim's family must be completely gutted by such unbelievable evil.
Well this guy was heading in this direction anyway. He was not legal to have a gun because of prior offence strangulation and probation. Had they had room in jails and prisons he would have been in custody till he served his sentence. If you watch trials like this (especially in central Florida) They put just about everyone back out on the streets. I seen one case of a guy with 42 arrests, child rape, Over 20 of those police impersonation. Many domestic assaults', Dating assaults, list went on and on, and they just let him out over and over because there was no room. Officials don't come out and say it but cops are giving up because their isn't room to house offenders
I thought the same thing. My only thought is he's going to try for the self defense angle. He was approached by the other guy and the other guy swings on him. 5 shots in the back is going to be really difficult to claim defense on though.
It could have been avoided by not getting out to start a fight either. Let's not act like the other guy isn't accountable for his poor decisions that got him killed.
@@CarRamRod-i9o self defense doesn’t apply. The man was down and the guy could have gotten back in the car to leave. There was no imminent threat & that many shots prove otherwise .
@@miguelbermudez5426 The Guy with the gun was a murderer. Getting out of your truck is not a death sentence. But hey he will be judged by 12 that what the 2nd idiots want so let him be judged by 12. He is sitting in jail or a traffic violation and will be for the rest of his life. Judged by 12 here we come.
@@ericrobinson1034 SOOOO...if everyone has guns we are not safer. THAT IS EXACTLY what you are saying. IF guns make us safer he should have felt safe confronting anyone, correct? He should have stayed in his own car because getting out is dangerous because everyone has guns. Guns make every driver less safe. That is what you are saying.
(LONG POST worth the read) 1st off I'm NOT a lawyer so please refer any legal questions to someone certified to do so! We used to do training for folks at our martial arts dojang encompassing specific self defense situations like this as well as other "in public encounter" events. Rule #1 was NEVER be the aggressor, remain calm, cool heads prevail. Equally important: NEVER use deadly force in a situation where the boxes aren't all checked! Boxes: Are you in immediate fear for your life or safety? Was a threat made verbally or otherwise that caused you to believe your life or safety is in danger? Does the person you're afraid of have the ability to carry out said threat? If you can't check the boxes, it's going to be a long, VERY expensive path to your freedom, and it may not go the way you planned in court! An unarmed person walking up to scream at you through your window does not constitute any of that. Getting out of the car to confront the person could be spun by a good lawyer to show the court that you weren't "afraid". Engaging in a mutual fight and then using force when you start losing won't hold up either. My advice to our students then and now is this: Call the police (911) immediately, tell them play by play what's going on, location, car color, description of the person, STAY in your car! The calls are all recorded, give specific details, tell them you are being threatened, if they have a weapon make it known on the call, retreat if possible, (drive away) go to an arranged meet spot where police will be on scene. The variables are ever changing in a situation, you need to keep them on the phone even on speaker with the phone on the dash so they can hear (and record) for later record if needed. Bear in mind though....they're recording everything! So don't say stuff inflammatory, or threatening! Be calm, never make threats, only defend yourself IF you have to. If you have to, explain to the operator "the person threatening me attacked me and I was forced to defend myself, send police and EMS to my location.... Say nothing else other than that, you're not a medic, you don't know if the threat is alive, You're not a phycologist you don't know why he did what he did, so don't answer those type of questions. If they ask what started it refer back to my previous, "I'm not a phycologist I have no idea why he was angry at me! Just send help!" Then simply wait for police, be disarmed when they arrive, surrender your weapon, give a very brief summary explaining that the person attacked you, you tried to de-escalate, it didn't work, they attacked you and you were scared for your life, and you were "forced to defend yourself" Say nothing else other than name, ID, and tell them you will give a written statement once you have spoke to your lawyer, and say nothing else on the subject! I hate to say it but remember "Anything you say, can and WILL be used against you" Even if they sympathize with you, tell you its ok, you did what you had to do, etc... clam up, tell them respectfully you will co-operate fully once you have had a chance to calm down and talk with your lawyer. Then don't answer another question relating to the event. What happened here was 100% preventable, on both sides, 2 wrongs don't make a right! It's sad someone is gone because of it, they'll never come back, the defendant will now probably end up in prison for a long time because of his actions. The only thing they both wish today is that they would have just let it go. Don't wait till it's the day after something like this. Breathe, take a breath, let it go! it's not worth it!
Stand your ground law would apply if the younger man was not already a convict without gun rights. The response to defending yourself under the "Stand Your Ground" can be deadly without recourse. In Florida, anyone in a physical conflict with someone over 65, can be charged with elderly abuse.
Stand your ground law would NOT apply regardless of felon status. You cannot shoot someone in the back 5x (I know he said 4 in the video but he said 3x then 2 more times because he was alive so that's 5). If you've ever taken a concealed carry class, you know what is and is not considered legal self defense. This most certainly would NOT be self defense. It could've been for a moment, but once you shoot someone in the back, you're done. People have shot home invaders in the back and been charged with murder for this same reason. It's hard to argue defense when you are escalating a situation and shooting someone in the back.
When I used to live in Tampa, I'd get irritated with the traffic on the way home from work. Then I decided to not let it bother me. I'd put in a CD and chill out. I'd think, "Just relax. You'll get there; what's the rush?" Never bothered me after that.
This five-star top cop does a great job of dropping many alleged facts/details on TV before any hearing or trial, giving the defense lawyers a lot to work with. This is why in many jurisdictions the cops say anything more than "we cannot comment on an ongoing investigation."
Was thinking same thing!! Innocent until proven guilty or guilty before trial? Seems cop may have said enough will help the young man out on this case!
I'm a professional driver and my advice is don't get mad just call the police. The highway is full of idiots. I even stopped using my horn. The horn isn't supposed to be used as some form of punishment. And get a dash camera so everything is recorded.
61 year old is not as old as they want to put it. But he thought he young enough to get out his car and be immature and get his ego get the worse of him. The killer is wrong, but both can be wrong...🙏🏼
The old man should of stayed in his van! I believe he would of been eating dinner with his grandson if he would of just stayed in the van!! Condolences to the grandson and his family.
That Sheriff is Great! He's absolutely the best Sheriff I've ever seen on video. Energetic, clear-speaking as he describes what happened. Such a quality individual & a quality law enforcement officer! Those working for him are very lucky to have a boss like him, such an excellent example of good decent community-caring law enforcement.
Yes because your a ignorant racist. I guess if his name was Timmy you would feel better. His parents decided not to give him a slave name. From the beginning of the officers story while grinning and talking about some elderly helpless man getting killed. Then he says as to make an excuse for this elderly helpless man that he ran up on the suspects car and take a swing at the 26 year old and gets shot and killed. Did I miss something. I thought he was so helpless but he's out here boxing. If this was reversed and the 26 year old ran up on your helpless elderly driver and shot the 26 year old. You clowns would go out your way to say it was self defense. At the end of the day stay in your car and definitely don't run up on someone in one of these gun carrying states. At 61 you would think he would know better. TRAGEDY ON BOTH SIDES.
61 is not a poor elderly person. If you jump out of your car and swing on someone you are half way an instigator. This officer is describing the case as if he is a first hand witness.
I’m sorry, but this chief is making the homicide victim seem way more innocent than he was. I thought a person in America had a right to defend them self against an aggressive attacker.
Wow- the ageism is thick here. 61 is not elderly. 81 -91 is elderly. 61 isn't even old enough to collect Medicare or Social Security unless you are on disability! This guy (the sheriff)is in his fifties and I wonder if he would like to be called elderly !
Im a Marine. I would not of approched the vehicle. You have a child in the car. You punch someone and now you say its an over kill. In Florida, punching someone in a vehicle could result in a charge of assault, battery, or burglary, depending on the circumstances:
Tragic situation but the way he's painting the guy throwing the first punch as an innocent victim is crazy. He initiated the violence by getting out of the car FIRST and then swinging FIRST! Your age doesn't make you innocen, kkeep your hands to yourself! You can't be the victim and the bad guy.
Shame on you for speaking your opinion on the case. You were not there, and even though he admits the crime, he will claim self-defense and ask for change of venue because you tainted his ability to proper defense.
Listen to this fool "think about that" because they saying the victim was shot again to finish the job! I wonder what the number would be on how many times the police 🚨 had done this exact same move!? They make me sick.
The comments are saying he should have stayed in his car, but it seems with the recklessness of the 26 y/o he probably would have shot at the victim even if they would have stayed in the car or drove away.
61 is not elderly. This “elderly“ victim should never have gotten out of his car and most certainly should never have swung at someone. Unfortunately, he was the aggressor, and this is the result.
Road rage can be deadly. If someone drives crazily, slow down and get away from them.
Exactly this. Exactly.
I have experience road rage each time I got away form them like ASAP...it is scary an not worth your life
Yes, and furthermore: ( if I may) If they continue to follow you, harass you. Call 911 and drive toward a PD or municipal complex. Do not get out of the car.Keep dispatch on the phone. Try to stay calm.
Exactly!
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Never get out of your vehicle and let it go. A life can't be replaced😥
especially with so many Contavius types around.
@@DREADKN0T especially when people carry I think is what you meant to say!
And ppl are absolutely NUTS these days...EVIL...
and never get out when you did it and approach a person in car in fl lot of both licensed and no constitutional carrying citizens are also armed . but you may only fire when threatened and once aggressions is over then its over you cannot fire again. sadly police officers are being caught doing several thing brake checking when you jam breaks on another car behind not just tapping the break lights actually stopping on a highway should not only be driver offence ,but criminal up to felony and the common law about rear enduing is the following cars fault when break checking is involved . but with the shooters record and requirements his having a firearm will make the prosecutors job better
I have personally made that mistake. I vow never to do that again, you as my witness.
Stay armed and alert but never get out of your car and stay clear of wild animals
Guns cause more problems than they solve.
Tampa has many upon many WILD FERAL ANIMALS
Thank you.
yeah, you racists are a real problem
Contavius... Let's use the entire alphabet in one of these names...come on people!
He throws the car in park, get your gun ready, remain calm, and call the police. Don't get out of your car.
Good advice
Or don't....
Never call the police.
NEVER get out of your car and swing at people, that's when you become the aggressor!! Sorry but that wasn't smart
yes powers never knew he had a gun or wd use it he shd have just stayed in and forgot it
You're not the aggressor if you get shot in the backs several times while on the ground.
@@KGIVwrong. Was he a victim yes, but he started it making him the aggressor. He threw a punch at a stranger over a traffic problem. He's the aggressor
Yep, but some of us old folks are sick & tired of this BS driving, I see it ALL the time, reckless drivers, speeding, running stop signs & red lights and hardly ever see the Police ENFORCING the laws
Exactly!!
I’m 62 years old, my rule is don’t pick a fight with anyone, much less a 26 year old.
Neither do I, one never knows. I’m not taking a chance with my life or my family’s
I agree with you. Why fighting anyway? Not smart.
I tend to agree...In this world?? Ummm no
Why get out the car to fight a youngster. I'm not making excuses but 2 wrongs don't make it right. But just like you arrested this young you all should arrest the that white man for beating the black lady that his dog poop on her lawn when she was watering her lawn he is still stalking her. The privilege is overwhelming. But this young needs to pay for his stupidity.
RIP to the elder man BUT why are they making him so innocent in this case.
He approached the young guy! They way the sheriff looked into the camera saying this poor elderly gentleman was beyond comprehension. What would he be saying if things were flipped? I’m so sorry this man lost his life and the young guy didn’t have to shoot him. However he was the aggressor.
RIP!
My heart goes out to that grandson. He will always see that in his head and possibly have nightmares and PTSD because of this.
It's Florida- it's normal
Sadly.
So sad!
@@starcrib More guns more safety easy math
@chipsdad5861 i have an Ohio gun license- *[ hunting ]...and i utterly/ completely disagree with you . And voting accordingly.
@@starcrib I appreciate the comment, I was being sarcastic, I actually believe guns make the world very dangerous, because gun makers and gun lobbyist want every idiot with a 2nd amendment right to buy a gun for profit so they can get richer.
How can an executioner be charged with 2nd degree murder? I would think those 2nd shots would escalate the charges.
1st degree is premeditated
@Wdm58 if the sentences for his charges run consecutively, he will serve out the remainder of his life in prison.
It should be first degree since he hopped out with his gun as a felon
@@angelcelis9090 excellent point
@@hpharridan a felon has no right to own a gun so how can he argue that he got out with a gun to defend himself?? Obviously he had the gun cause he knew he was going to kill which would explain the last shots he took to make sure he killed the old guy.
My daughter lives in clearwater, when go to visit, it never fails being cut off numerous times, being forced out of my lane by being cut off, had idiots pull out in front of me. My 52 years of being an over the road truck driver dictates the fact that 95% of the drivers on the road in that area have no business driving a vehicle.
You're not lying....I live in Pinellas county and work all over the Bay area (roofing).......you just gotta keep your cool and sanity.....
Just ignore the idiots
@@erickiyoshiphillips2323the idiots hate when you don’t get pissed off!
He shot a man in the back! I Hope he goes away for a long time. The elderly man was wrong but he didn't deserve to get murdered over that. The murderer is a danger to society . R.I.P. prayers for his grandson & family.
Grandpa forgot he was old. He's supposed to be older and wiser. He'd where he's at because of his actions.
you lying. that man threw a punch and missed he was the aggressor your mad he got downed by a black man that flipped it on you.
Usual suspects defending the usual suspects
@giantrottskennels6460 where have we heard of people getting so bent out of shape about someone getting it in the back? There were riots in the streets. But those same people will justify this... lol I'm not surprised...
61 is far from an elderly man.
Both men are beyond stupid. But those last two shots make it murder.
i agree but when a jury sees you had a secure vehichle and the attacker only had fists you cant jump the ladder from fists to guns and use it.if you are going to engage the agressor you have to use reasonable force as much as i dont always agree with the laws
I hate to break it to ya cupcake but the first shot was illegal, murder. Shooting someone that's on their hands and knees in the back! Seriously is OK with you?
@@patriotcountry4716many stand your ground in FL like Zimmerman attacked an unarmed child and got away with it.
@@patriotcountry4716 This is a reading comprehension problem.
1 Both men stupid
2 LAST two shots make in murder
3 I wrote nothing about the first four shots.
3A But these could be CLAIMED to be self defense and not pre-meditated (manslaughter) but
that is still twenty-five years
4A The last two were execution and premeditated. That makes it murder / not manslaughter
Which makes the first four shots moot and why I did not mention them in my original post
@@summerjade22 LOL...Dumb....
As a Floridian driver I'm just sick of everybody with their impatience, I have people flicking me off literally face turning red of anger because of me doing 3 mph over the speed limit it's not fast enough for them. I don't know if it's all the freaking drugs people are in a rush to get, idk but I really hate driving here.
Totally agree! Here in Lee county and especially Lehigh Acres, the driving is inexcusable!
They lay on the horn when you're waiting at a red light.
Or if I’m turning in to a parking lot I have someone on my tail and have turned on signal in plenty of time. You all in your ridiculous pick up trucks are nothing but bullies!
@gailmorra is just ridiculous
If you’re in the left lane doing the speed limit and someone comes up behind you, move to the next lane.
Having people swerve around another car causes more deaths than going straight at a high rate of speed.
In parts of Florida, if you tie up our tourists, you’ll get a ticket for not moving over for the car that is going faster, probably on their way to make sure Floridians don’t have to pay state income taxes.
Logic is our best friend.
These sheriff workers should emphasize the ignorance of getting out of the car and picking a fight‼️ especially with elderly men
The elderly man is the one that picked the fight. Let’s make that clear.
That poor grandson. Grandpa should've known better. No matter how pissed off you might be, LET IT GO. The suspect is a coward, he shot the guy IN THE BACK multiple times.
Here’s the lesson: you NEVER get out of the car.
Agree 100%
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He just wanted to talk with the young man teach him some manners
Just remember if need be your car can be a weapon if you need to protect yourself and loved ones.
Don't challenge people on the roadway. Too many crazies out there.
It does not sound like you feel safer with crazies having guns.
@@chipsdad5861 they sound smarter than you.
@@chipsdad5861what is that supposed to imply?
@@blacktophemirt8526forgive him for not being blessed with the brain cells to process what he is saying.
@@georgeokello8620 is it just me or is there a hint of "ban all guns and crime will end" in that comment? i may be wrong
The young guy should not be an asshole and risk everyone else driving like a idiot first off but most don't care about anything but them self
We see such ALL THE TIME in Suwannee county Fla, but hardly EVER SEE Law Enforcement ENFORCING THE LAWS
@@REVNUMANEWBERNI haven’t seen a traffic stop in years. Have seen countless criminal drivers going 2x the speed limit.
How the kid was driving IS NOT THE POINT! He was attacked and he fought back!
@@REVNUMANEWBERN Cops should arrest these old fuckers that think they are above the law .
@@mkatnileb2439Yes, it's actually all the point. He was weaving in and out of traffic almost hitting the older guy. Had he not been "Driving" like that, none of this would've happened.
5 shots into the back of a 60 year old is defence you say? Your a F ing moron if you think that is self defense
There is no police presence anywhere around there. I drive RT75 to Tampa everyday and haven't seen a cop in months anywhere. I see drivers doing well over 100mph, driving with no lights, swerving in and out of traffic and tailgating/brake checking. Contractor trucks are the worst....FHP needs to do their jobs and identify these types of drivers and do something.
The same here in NC, it’s like a damn race track here.
Same in Sarasota County no law enforcement
They don't seem to do anything about traffic violations anymore. On my way to downtown yesterday I saw a hit and run in Brandon, and then a wrong way driver in downtown on a one way almost take out a pedestrian. No cops anywhere.
Always cops through there
@@fearlv1rattataThey arrived but you didn't see
And once again... the victim wasn't innocent either. Wake me up when someone didn't get themselves in a bad situation because they wanted to be tough
Wonder why they making the victim out to just be a random victim.. He swung first. Swung.
26 and throwing your entire life away over getting angry in traffic. Absolute insanity.
it's florida he'll only do a couple years and be out by 30
With a name like Kentavious it was inevitable…
I’m just sorry he had to take the older man with him 😢
@@DeezNutz-x3xlmao bro it's murder punishable by life in Florida hell get 20 to life min
@@DeezNutz-x3x You don't know sh*t.
Not this one.
Oh how nice of him to completely describe the victim and his actions as a poor elderly yet angry homicide victim. Unfortunate situation but stay in your cars nothing is worth losing your life over. Road rage is a demon
Yeah usually they get on the person that gets out of the car first. Wonder why this time nothing is said negative about the old guy who got out of the car and swung on the young one. hmmm.
@@davidcalhoun3235 He did, he admitted right up front the old man took the first swing. But at the point of the old man falling down and being on his hands and knees he was no longer a threat in the eyes of the law. The fact that the young man shot him in the back MULTIPLE TIMES TO ASSURE THE OLD MAN WAS DEAD as he was kneeling on the pavement is what SHOULD have led the rabid criminal to being charged with the highest level of murder we have with the DEATH PENALTY being mandatory!
The young man is a COWARD! What kind of "man" shoots an old man in the back as he kneels on the ground struggling? And then to make it worse he SHOT TWICE MORE TO MAKE SURE HIS EXECUTION WAS COMPLETE!!
And here you are bitching because the cops did not berate and vilify a 60 something year old murder victim because he dared get out and protest someone road raging! YES the old man is at fault for escalating the situation... But don't you think he PAID ENOUGH FOR HIS MISTAKES? WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE YOU HAPPY? JUST TOSSING THE OLD MANS CORPSE INTO A DITCH AND LETTING THE MURDER GO? OR FOR THE COPS AND THE MEDIA TO PAINT THE OLD MAN AS THE ABSOLUTE ANTAGONIST AND THE MURDERER AS THE VILLAIN?
Why did he got out from the car ? Not very smart. People in Florida are mad and most of us are packing ……. I would had never gotten out and just ignored the offender.
Why did he shoot him for gettiing out of the car?
Most of you are packing? Thank you for the warning. Florida is off my list of tourism visits.
@@michellewalters4484 I’m pretty sure that Florida man doesn’t care if you don’t visit. Stay in your disarmed utopia
@@michellewalters4484Most of us are packing to protect ourselves from people like the suspect. FL is a huge state, and a lot of crazies come down here from other places, running/hiding from their problems.
The majority of us are sensible, nice people who you would never suspect that we’re carrying for protection.
@@michellewalters4484good deal… we don’t need any more liberals.
rest in peace sad god bless family heartbreaking
No excuse for the shooting but at the same time if the victim had not been a hothead he would probably still be alive🤷♂️
Don’t ever play stupid games with stupid just ignore it that’s it
Thank you father he’s caught,my condolences to the family 🙏🏽
💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏💔💔💔💔prayers for family😢😢😢😢
I couldn’t follow the sheriff’s story. Just be direct and straight to the point. Rule number 1 don’t get out of your car. Rule number 2, license to carry is a must as soon as anyone approaches you in an aggressive manner.
He ain’t no sheriff Grady. Sheriff Grady from Polk county is theee best at explaining a crime
This is why I always carry when i go to Tampa
You should carry when you go ANYWHERE!
I am 60, black and never owned a gun. I don’t trust myself. I have a clean record as well. Stay away from drama. You already have a drama boss
We always carry here in Tampa
Should of got license number and just go on and also call 911. Not worth dieing for.
Stay strapped
Sorry, but the man shouldn’t have gotten out of the car, rush towards him and tries to punch the other man. Both are wrong
Both are wrong. One guy killed him. Do you think that’s worse?
@JamieHayes6982 In God's eye, a lie and murder are the same .
Nah
@@JamieHayes6982
Well why did the old man got out of car, getting all aggressive with someone you don't even know how crazy they are. Sorry, but that first decision was the end of his life.
People, gather information and call police, don't let your ego get the best of you..🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@ellalopez7636 it has nothing to do with ego. You can’t shoot somebody and that’s a use of force that’s greater than what the other guy did. You don’t understand.
Okay for the record it doesn't matter if people were going to church or not. Church attendees aren't any kind of better citizen than anyone else.
How did suspect get a gun that he was not supposed to have on him
ask governor desantis.
Tell us more about Chicago, New York City and Baltimore all ran by dems.
He’s a criminal. He’s on probation for domestic choking. I’m sure he knows all kind of criminals to get guns from.
Like NY, only the criminals have guns.
Gun laws do not work.
I'm sure that Nofathercus pondered Florida's gun laws before strapping up move to NYC or Chicago they got great gun laws there...😂
In Florida, punching someone in a vehicle could result in a charge of assault, battery, or burglary, depending on the circumstances:
Stand your ground, hum
If the gun was in mamma's home she should be arrested too, being on felony probo.
I need to know whether mamma committed a violent act as a convicted crime and is on public housing, she must be removed by law.
A convicted person have a legal right and responsibility to defend their families because we all Americans.The states are violating everybody gun rights.I agree everyone to have a gun to protect their families even if they convicted felons. You don't agree? you a coward not brave not real American. You scared? maybe it's time to go back to grammas country.
Wow going back to mom, what about what jeffery Dahmer did shouldn't Dahmer be held responsible for this crime as well?
@@chipsdad5861 Kentavious mamma is a convicted criminal not allowed to be in the presence of a firearm. Where did he get the gun.
@@sandspurpatch Gosh I don't know, there is only 400 million guns in a America. I don't know how he could have gotten a gun other than his mommy.
They both are paying the price for stupidity
What a psycho honking the horn is a regular occurrence here in FL and if that bruises your fragile ego GO GET SOME HELP!! Condolences to the family members may they all find peace in this unfortunate outcome.
This is so horrible and completely senseless. My heart goes out to the families on both sides. Dude just threw his whole life away at 26 for nothing. And obviously the victim's family must be completely gutted by such unbelievable evil.
He was attacked
Well this guy was heading in this direction anyway. He was not legal to have a gun because of prior offence strangulation and probation. Had they had room in jails and prisons he would have been in custody till he served his sentence. If you watch trials like this (especially in central Florida) They put just about everyone back out on the streets. I seen one case of a guy with 42 arrests, child rape, Over 20 of those police impersonation. Many domestic assaults', Dating assaults, list went on and on, and they just let him out over and over because there was no room. Officials don't come out and say it but cops are giving up because their isn't room to house offenders
What kind of attorney allowed his defendant to talk so much?
He knows he's guilty
I thought the same thing. My only thought is he's going to try for the self defense angle. He was approached by the other guy and the other guy swings on him. 5 shots in the back is going to be really difficult to claim defense on though.
So buddy got out his car punched this man and now he’s the victim?
Wonder why. hmmmmm
watch the video. Also learn about "Justified force" and what it means.
I thought it was said the victim was shot in the back?
He did not have the gun legally, end of story
It could have been avoided by not getting out to start a fight either. Let's not act like the other guy isn't accountable for his poor decisions that got him killed.
@@CarRamRod-i9o self defense doesn’t apply. The man was down and the guy could have gotten back in the car to leave. There was no imminent threat & that many shots prove otherwise .
@@miguelbermudez5426 The Guy with the gun was a murderer. Getting out of your truck is not a death sentence. But hey he will be judged by 12 that what the 2nd idiots want so let him be judged by 12. He is sitting in jail or a traffic violation and will be for the rest of his life. Judged by 12 here we come.
Should've stayed in the car..in Florida you gotta assume everyone has a gun
@@ericrobinson1034 SOOOO...if everyone has guns we are not safer. THAT IS EXACTLY what you are saying. IF guns make us safer he should have felt safe confronting anyone, correct? He should have stayed in his own car because getting out is dangerous because everyone has guns. Guns make every driver less safe. That is what you are saying.
(LONG POST worth the read) 1st off I'm NOT a lawyer so please refer any legal questions to someone certified to do so!
We used to do training for folks at our martial arts dojang encompassing specific self defense situations like this as well as other "in public encounter" events. Rule #1 was NEVER be the aggressor, remain calm, cool heads prevail. Equally important: NEVER use deadly force in a situation where the boxes aren't all checked! Boxes: Are you in immediate fear for your life or safety? Was a threat made verbally or otherwise that caused you to believe your life or safety is in danger? Does the person you're afraid of have the ability to carry out said threat? If you can't check the boxes, it's going to be a long, VERY expensive path to your freedom, and it may not go the way you planned in court! An unarmed person walking up to scream at you through your window does not constitute any of that. Getting out of the car to confront the person could be spun by a good lawyer to show the court that you weren't "afraid". Engaging in a mutual fight and then using force when you start losing won't hold up either. My advice to our students then and now is this: Call the police (911) immediately, tell them play by play what's going on, location, car color, description of the person, STAY in your car! The calls are all recorded, give specific details, tell them you are being threatened, if they have a weapon make it known on the call, retreat if possible, (drive away) go to an arranged meet spot where police will be on scene. The variables are ever changing in a situation, you need to keep them on the phone even on speaker with the phone on the dash so they can hear (and record) for later record if needed. Bear in mind though....they're recording everything! So don't say stuff inflammatory, or threatening! Be calm, never make threats, only defend yourself IF you have to. If you have to, explain to the operator "the person threatening me attacked me and I was forced to defend myself, send police and EMS to my location.... Say nothing else other than that, you're not a medic, you don't know if the threat is alive, You're not a phycologist you don't know why he did what he did, so don't answer those type of questions. If they ask what started it refer back to my previous, "I'm not a phycologist I have no idea why he was angry at me! Just send help!" Then simply wait for police, be disarmed when they arrive, surrender your weapon, give a very brief summary explaining that the person attacked you, you tried to de-escalate, it didn't work, they attacked you and you were scared for your life, and you were "forced to defend yourself" Say nothing else other than name, ID, and tell them you will give a written statement once you have spoke to your lawyer, and say nothing else on the subject! I hate to say it but remember "Anything you say, can and WILL be used against you" Even if they sympathize with you, tell you its ok, you did what you had to do, etc... clam up, tell them respectfully you will co-operate fully once you have had a chance to calm down and talk with your lawyer. Then don't answer another question relating to the event.
What happened here was 100% preventable, on both sides, 2 wrongs don't make a right! It's sad someone is gone because of it, they'll never come back, the defendant will now probably end up in prison for a long time because of his actions. The only thing they both wish today is that they would have just let it go. Don't wait till it's the day after something like this. Breathe, take a breath, let it go! it's not worth it!
Why in the hell isn't he being charged with first degree murder, the last two shots justify a first degree murder charge!?!?
Kentavious. OK.
I know I fall out over that name.🤣😁
Precisely
Cantankerous
@House-Boating wow,a name..soo funny.grow up lame o
@@cheguevara6198 Like Che Guevara ???? maybe you should look up how many people he m*rdered. lame o
Somebody driving reckless? Call the police! Don't approach them yourself! Ignore the crazies when you can!
So incredibly sad. Please, people, get it together. So sorry for the families.
Stop acting like the elderly man was innocent. He was not. Elderly ppl can be instigators. DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR! Everyone carries.🤨
Agreed stay in car but doesn't mean you shoot a lot in the back!!
The victim brought this on himself. Very stupid to exit your vehicle. Could have just ignored it and went on his way.
"Kentavious" boyyyy these names get more and more like jokes. Y'all crazy as hell 😂😂
So you ain’t see kentavious Caldwell pope splash 3’s in the NBA!? 😂
Crickets.
criminals name
@@charger297What damn language are you trying to type? 😂
What’s so funny about his name?
Stand your ground law would apply if the younger man was not already a convict without gun rights. The response to defending yourself under the "Stand Your Ground" can be deadly without recourse.
In Florida, anyone in a physical conflict with someone over 65, can be charged with elderly abuse.
noooo. eldeerly or anyone is not allowed to attack you boo boo
Stand your ground law would NOT apply regardless of felon status. You cannot shoot someone in the back 5x (I know he said 4 in the video but he said 3x then 2 more times because he was alive so that's 5). If you've ever taken a concealed carry class, you know what is and is not considered legal self defense. This most certainly would NOT be self defense. It could've been for a moment, but once you shoot someone in the back, you're done. People have shot home invaders in the back and been charged with murder for this same reason. It's hard to argue defense when you are escalating a situation and shooting someone in the back.
@@fearlv1rattatanot only that, imminent danger has to apply. Suspect had no reason to confront him. He was not in imminent danger!
No it wouldnt apply
You cant shoot someone in the baack that is on the ground... are you dumb?
NEVER get out of your vehicle during a road rage incident.
Kentavious? The usual suspect I see. The culture that keeps giving.
Exactly
Its sunday, he was in a hurry to church
So sad. Statistically we should really look to see the rates of crimes from this culture. I’m curious 🧐.
@@sallysmith2937 It's catastrophic for being merely 13.5% and encompassing 74% of the entire jail and prison population!
Is that a gang name
Poor elderly victim. Hmmmmm, not from how he just explained it...
Wrong all around!!
The older man started making very wrong decisions!!!
He just wanted to talk with the young man teach him some manners
Please don’t run up on my car and attempt to assault me, because I’m defending myself by any means necessary.
Then ur gonna be n prison for life because that's what will happen to him.
A nice prison cell is calling your name. 😂
@@erickiyoshiphillips2323not if you’re defending yourself you won’t
@@erickiyoshiphillips2323 the sad part is that man was defending himself, and that ole trump supporter should have stayed in his car.
As a truck driver I know it’s hard my advice is let it go and stay alive to go home to your family.🚛🤦🏻♂️ my condolences to his family.
People are simply outta control Worldwide! We need more prayers than ever Pray🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Nahh only in Biden Kamala USA ruled by MS 13
You need more than prayers 😂
you jesus freaks are the problem
When I used to live in Tampa, I'd get irritated with the traffic on the way home from work. Then I decided to not let it bother me. I'd put in a CD and chill out. I'd think, "Just relax. You'll get there; what's the rush?" Never bothered me after that.
61 years old and still hasn't learned to stay in your car and not put his hands on people.
30 years old, never learned how to act like a civil human being.
@Parrotgirl-tattoo He was attacked but yes he did take it way too far.
@@terrysmith4465 took it way too far? That's the understatement of the century! 😐
He just wanted to talk with the young man teach him some manners
@@Wisdom24-7 He arrived in front of God! What did God say?
Dude, 61 is NOT "elderly" 😂
He's not in his youth. He's elderly.
Kentavious is that you?
@@MegaTriumph140 to 65 is Middle Aged
@@JennyMack-m2gyeth.
61 is older not old but whatever
This five-star top cop does a great job of dropping many alleged facts/details on TV before any hearing or trial, giving the defense lawyers a lot to work with. This is why in many jurisdictions the cops say anything more than "we cannot comment on an ongoing investigation."
Was thinking same thing!! Innocent until proven guilty or guilty before trial? Seems cop may have said enough will help the young man out on this case!
@@alchemistkingdickinson2256 👍
I agree i underestimate nobody!
But…but when a cop does this its called self defense
I'm a professional driver and my advice is don't get mad just call the police. The highway is full of idiots. I even stopped using my horn. The horn isn't supposed to be used as some form of punishment. And get a dash camera so everything is recorded.
Are country in full of nut jobs stay in your car!!!!!
I live in the UK , even I wouldn’t get out of my car . You are more likely to get stabbed here than shot. The world is full of nutters 🫤
So sad, dont let anyone gode you into a confrontation of road rage 😢
He shouldn’t have swung on him stay in your car…….
Never get out of your car. Where is this Sheriff from? He’s trying to try the case in the news
61 year old is not as old as they want to put it. But he thought he young enough to get out his car and be immature and get his ego get the worse of him. The killer is wrong, but both can be wrong...🙏🏼
I’m 63 and I’m just as physically fit as when I was 40. Calling him an elderly man is ridiculous.
Why is he defending the guy who confronted the shooter? Awful. Not worth it. Walk away
When you Get out your vehicle.
You roll the dice.
You have a child in the car.
Cmon man what are you thinking.
I am thinking that the grandson is a young man. The sheriff said he was a veteran.
The old man should of stayed in his van! I believe he would of been eating dinner with his grandson if he would of just stayed in the van!! Condolences to the grandson and his family.
That Sheriff is Great! He's absolutely the best Sheriff I've ever seen on video. Energetic, clear-speaking as he describes what happened. Such a quality individual & a quality law enforcement officer! Those working for him are very lucky to have a boss like him, such an excellent example of good decent community-caring law enforcement.
As soon as I heard the perp's silly-sounding name, I could've finished the story.
YEP.....WHERE is the PICTURE of the PERP?????????????
Precisely
Yes because your a ignorant racist. I guess if his name was Timmy you would feel better. His parents decided not to give him a slave name. From the beginning of the officers story while grinning and talking about some elderly helpless man getting killed. Then he says as to make an excuse for this elderly helpless man that he ran up on the suspects car and take a swing at the 26 year old and gets shot and killed. Did I miss something. I thought he was so helpless but he's out here boxing. If this was reversed and the 26 year old ran up on your helpless elderly driver and shot the 26 year old. You clowns would go out your way to say it was self defense. At the end of the day stay in your car and definitely don't run up on someone in one of these gun carrying states. At 61 you would think he would know better. TRAGEDY ON BOTH SIDES.
61 is not a poor elderly person. If you jump out of your car and swing on someone you are half way an instigator. This officer is describing the case as if he is a first hand witness.
Dumb as shouldn't have gotten out of the van
While not wrong, there were many other "shouldn't have's" that beat that in this story.
Unhinged the movie watch it and learn.
Yes for sure, since that movie I think twice about bitching and honking the horn after seeing this movie
That was a crazy movie but yeah totally possible.
Poor elderly driver isn't much of a victim if he got violent.
I’m sorry, but this chief is making the homicide victim seem way more innocent than he was. I thought a person in America had a right to defend them self against an aggressive attacker.
61 is elderly ??
I guess that's me😂😂
Interesting 🤔
Yes
Way exaggerated buddy! This sheriff isn't far behind!! I wonder how elderly he feels??
@LG-rescues "Elderly" is not a feeling. It has a definition. And by legal definition, the dead person is elderly.
Don’t like when a police chief talks to much with out fully investigating a crime
This was an execution style shooting.
Why does this guy look happy about this!?
Interesting way to paint the aggressor who chose violence first... actions have consequences
This sheriff's outfit is TOP NOTCH! It is pressed pristine!
Wow- the ageism is thick here.
61 is not elderly. 81 -91 is elderly. 61 isn't even old enough to collect Medicare or Social Security unless you are on disability! This guy (the sheriff)is in his fifties and I wonder if he would like to be called elderly !
Is that what you're hung up on? Really? Let me guess, the murderer is your 3rd baby daddy
What a very fine sheriff 🎉🎉so passionate about his job and the people 👏 ❤how commendable...what an awesome team !!
Im a Marine.
I would not of approched the vehicle.
You have a child in the car.
You punch someone and now you say its an over kill.
In Florida, punching someone in a vehicle could result in a charge of assault, battery, or burglary, depending on the circumstances:
what does you being a marine have to do with anything?
@@dealerslicenseops alot Goofy because I'm alive because I know how to at times manage my risks Genius robot
So let’s spend $100,000 to take him to court? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 what a great country!
Yea tax payers money that's a joke
if the old guy had not tried to throw that first punch .... HIS road rage caused his death.
People will end your life for LITERALLY NOTHING.
Never get out of the Car! Get out of the Area.
some of these sheriffs/cops love the attention of a press conference….just give us the facts bro, this isn’t your 15 mins of fame 🤦♂️
He's conducting the trial before jury selection.
Tragic situation but the way he's painting the guy throwing the first punch as an innocent victim is crazy. He initiated the violence by getting out of the car FIRST and then swinging FIRST! Your age doesn't make you innocen, kkeep your hands to yourself! You can't be the victim and the bad guy.
do any of you know the use of force laws? A foreign concept?
Grandpa should've let police handle it not walk up to irate strangers car.
1:01 suspect so Person of Interest and not murderer gotcha
I mean he confessed so shooting the guy. And it was execution style in the back. So it's pretty safe to say murderer at this point.
Shame on you for speaking your opinion on the case. You were not there, and even though he admits the crime, he will claim self-defense and ask for change of venue because you tainted his ability to proper defense.
Bruh stop trying to be Grady in Polk. You’re not him! Just give a basic briefing smh
😂😂facts. Sheriff Grady the best at explaining a crime. This dude sounds goofy af.
Listen to this fool "think about that" because they saying the victim was shot again to finish the job! I wonder what the number would be on how many times the police 🚨 had done this exact same move!? They make me sick.
Why is he saying homerside and not murder victim?
They’ll call it murder after the official autopsy.
my god, this homerside! I also hate Margiecide too
NEVER get out of your vehicle.
The comments are saying he should have stayed in his car, but it seems with the recklessness of the 26 y/o he probably would have shot at the victim even if they would have stayed in the car or drove away.
61 is not elderly. This “elderly“ victim should never have gotten out of his car and most certainly should never have swung at someone. Unfortunately, he was the aggressor, and this is the result.