I would love to do a similar video with my friend , he used to do formula 3 driving and nowadays does westfield cup. He is usually anywhere from 3 to 8 seconds faster than me around a track.
Do any auto cross organizers use ropes or something instead of just cones to mark the course? I find it difficult to see sometimes where the bends are when in a sea of cones
Some use chalk or drywall lines to mark it. It's easier to follow when you're actually there. They do course walks before the first car goes on course so you can get an idea of where to go and how to approach each section. There's time for individual course walks, where you can walk alone or find someone experienced to give you tips, and also a novice course walk where an expert gives advice to all of the newer people. I know one organization that even hands out maps of the course before the event.
Never use rope to mark a course or race somewhere that does. Roping a course like this means when you make a mistake (and you will when pushing hard, everyone does) you have no escape route or place to bring the car to a stop. At best your car is now entangled in rope, as worst the rope was brought under tension then snaps whipping into something, likely you.
@@Vielden that’s good advice. I haven’t done a serious race yet and want to get into with my NA. Auto cross seems like a safe place to start as there aren’t other cars flying around me.
Experienced but not particularly skilled, I would avoid emulating that style. He is going faster because he is using more of the tires, but he has set his ceiling very low.
@@moregavinremme6768 He is using more of the tire, but not in a balanced way nor close to the limit. He is steering a lot, aggressively, and not using the pedals to drive the car. He keeps oscillating over and under the limit usually with the front tires but overall he is closer to it. You (?) on the other hand are steering conservatively and not slipping the tire enough. You're consistently under the limit. An actual driver would lap both of you by seconds, but the more aggressive driver is still faster than you. It's like that in all sports generally. Continue doing what you're doing and don't fall into the trap of hamfisting the car to get time out of it, because it will work in the short term but it will be hell to un-learn everything and learn to drive correctly. Your aim is to drive the car more with the pedals than the steering.
Broo the "experienced" guy on bottom is holding the wheel so wrong. Like a grandma in a way. You look way better man don't listen to that guy. I don't think he knows the basics
That hand position is commonly used for autox. Not ideal for road racing but here it can be effective and is more of a advanced technique. If you’ve read any autox books it goes over different hand positions
I'm so fkn tired of the asinine comments where people think how you hold the wheel is the most important thing or even important at all. Go watch Walter Rohrl, Group B rally driver world champion, and tell him he's doing it wrong. Honestly, in this case, it's mostly called "being tall and having to avoid bumping your elbows into the door and center console". As a tall person myself, it gets old fast that I have to work twice as hard to turn the wheel at all without bumping into something and then short guys leave clueless comments like yours. Bonus: you're a furry, you shouldn't be judging ANYONE about ANYTHING.
I would love to do a similar video with my friend , he used to do formula 3 driving and nowadays does westfield cup. He is usually anywhere from 3 to 8 seconds faster than me around a track.
Stock suspension just looks so funny, I was jumping around on the Nürburgring with mine. What tires do you have?
Do any auto cross organizers use ropes or something instead of just cones to mark the course? I find it difficult to see sometimes where the bends are when in a sea of cones
Some use chalk or drywall lines to mark it. It's easier to follow when you're actually there. They do course walks before the first car goes on course so you can get an idea of where to go and how to approach each section. There's time for individual course walks, where you can walk alone or find someone experienced to give you tips, and also a novice course walk where an expert gives advice to all of the newer people. I know one organization that even hands out maps of the course before the event.
Never use rope to mark a course or race somewhere that does. Roping a course like this means when you make a mistake (and you will when pushing hard, everyone does) you have no escape route or place to bring the car to a stop. At best your car is now entangled in rope, as worst the rope was brought under tension then snaps whipping into something, likely you.
@@Vielden that’s good advice. I haven’t done a serious race yet and want to get into with my NA. Auto cross seems like a safe place to start as there aren’t other cars flying around me.
Beginner vs decent. Nice video.
I thought the top guy looked like a more experienced driver until the times popped up. Im still confused on who is who
Often the one that looks slower is actually faster. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Same here. Better technique, especially with the hands.
@@jaspervos4345 who was better with the hands?
@@moregavinremme6768 top was better with the hands. at least better looking. bottom usually had his two hands really close.
love the video
Experienced but not particularly skilled, I would avoid emulating that style. He is going faster because he is using more of the tires, but he has set his ceiling very low.
Could you elaborate on that? Isn’t the goal to use the tire to the limit? Or are you more referring to his line?
@@moregavinremme6768 He is using more of the tire, but not in a balanced way nor close to the limit. He is steering a lot, aggressively, and not using the pedals to drive the car. He keeps oscillating over and under the limit usually with the front tires but overall he is closer to it.
You (?) on the other hand are steering conservatively and not slipping the tire enough. You're consistently under the limit.
An actual driver would lap both of you by seconds, but the more aggressive driver is still faster than you. It's like that in all sports generally. Continue doing what you're doing and don't fall into the trap of hamfisting the car to get time out of it, because it will work in the short term but it will be hell to un-learn everything and learn to drive correctly. Your aim is to drive the car more with the pedals than the steering.
awsome
Broo the "experienced" guy on bottom is holding the wheel so wrong. Like a grandma in a way. You look way better man don't listen to that guy. I don't think he knows the basics
That hand position is commonly used for autox. Not ideal for road racing but here it can be effective and is more of a advanced technique. If you’ve read any autox books it goes over different hand positions
I'm so fkn tired of the asinine comments where people think how you hold the wheel is the most important thing or even important at all. Go watch Walter Rohrl, Group B rally driver world champion, and tell him he's doing it wrong. Honestly, in this case, it's mostly called "being tall and having to avoid bumping your elbows into the door and center console". As a tall person myself, it gets old fast that I have to work twice as hard to turn the wheel at all without bumping into something and then short guys leave clueless comments like yours.
Bonus: you're a furry, you shouldn't be judging ANYONE about ANYTHING.