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Manhunter is a beautiful example of the Neon-Noir genre. The remake, Red Dragon, may be closer to the source material, but I believe this is the superior film. The scene with the tiger is breath taking. The finale set to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida is thrilling. And Brian Cox plays an understated but quietly threatening Hannibal Lecter. This movie deserves way more recognition. Glad to see it get a bit more here.
The tiger scene from Red Dragon can't hold a candle to this film's version, but what were they going to do? If they changed it, they're stuck with a weaker version, but if they copied what Mann did, they'd look like imitators. It was something of a no-win situation given that Mann basically did a perfect version of that scene...it managed to make a visual presentation feel like a tactile one.
I prefer Red Dragon, I think it's mostly the ordering of the same events I prefer. The "love story" felt tacked on to the end in this one, where it was more throughout the movie in Red Dragon. I think maybe I preferred that cast more as well.
Red Dragon follows the book and the ending makes sense. Anthony Hopkins is back. Since Anthony Hopkins is there, they made the Hannibal part bigger. Both are based on the same book. The guy who played Chilton is back. This seems like a Miami Vice episode. It was good, but the book is the best. Hannibal book is epic. The film is OK, but good. They left way too much out.
Whenever I see someone reacting to a Mann flick, I click immediately. My brain was molded by Miami Vice, The Last of the Mohicans, and Heat though. I gotta say the mid-80's locals and directorial style just make this movie for me.
That movie was released the same year as Manhunter. I thought William Peterson was going to be a big star then he almost disappeared then CSI came along
This movie is sooooooooooo damn good. Drenched in 80s atmosphere, the pulsing synth soundtrack, and an absolutely stellar cast. Speaking as a guy who thinks Anthony Hopkins is truly the GOAT, this is my preferred adaptation of “Red Dragon.”
Agreed. Edward Norton IS my favorite actor, Anthony Hopkins is my second or third favorite, and I love Ralph Fiennes too. But yet, I think Manhunter is better than Red Dragon also.
Manhunter was a totally underrated film. Even when I first saw it as a 16 year old junior in high school in the fall of '86, it blew me away. I'd never seen quite a flick like it before or since. That was Michael Mann directing it in the midst of his Miami Vice fame
The first time I saw this movie I felt like I was drowning in the '80s with Miami Vice vibes. But I didn't realize it was a Michael Mann movie at the time. Rewatched it and I appreciated it a lot more. Especially the cinematography with the stark and cold sets.
There are quite a lot of lovely shots in this movie that go unnoticed today, but when contrasted to movies that came out in the mid-80's, you can see Mann's eye all over it. When Graham steps on the elevator to go to his hotel room to review the home videos.... That is such a Michael Mann shot. And it's just got a cool vibe to it.
I think by setting the killer on Graham he's testing him - if Graham gets killed Lecter gets revenge, if he catches the killer it proves Graham is good so makes his catching Lecter less of a humiliation
The one actor who actually kept his role from this film as the Lecter series continued was Frankie Faison as Barney the orderly. Today he's probably best known as Commissioner Burrell from The Wire, and more recently had a highly memorable but short-lived role as Pop the barber in Luke Cage.
There were two actors who appeared in both Manhunter and The Silence of the Lambs: Frankie Faison as Lt. Fisk/Barney, and Dan Butler as Jimmy Price (the fingerprinting specialist) in this one and one of the entomologists whom Clarice gives the bug cocoon to in The Silence of the Lambs.
Another great film is Michael Mann’s directorial debut, “Thief,” starring James Caan as a master thief trying to get out of the business. James Caan says it’s his favorite performance of his career. William L. Petersen and Dennis Farina (Crawford in Manhunter) have small parts, too.
Anthony Hopkins Lecter is charismatic and fascinating. But Brian Cox's is a terrifying cold-blooded killer. And the music of Shriekback in this film is dynamite.
Shriekback is one of the most underrated bands ever. The fact that their recent albums receive zero attention from public and critics is heartbreaking.
Well, Hopkins create his Hannibal based in Dracula type of charming, Cox's based his interpretation in real cold serial killers so his version is more like a real psycopath.
I thought the exact same thing! Cox's Lecter stare is absolutely terrifying. The shot of him staring when he asks Graham if he's ever seen blood in the moonlight is the single most terrifying shot of him!
I agree. I really enjoy the movies, but the series is something else altogether. One of my most favorite tv series ever. Absolutely breath-taking set pieces plus phenomenal music. Mads & Hugh are freakin' AMAZING. I mean, everyone in the show is great, but those two...DAMN. I need to re-watch it. Again.
Another classic with Peterson from the 80's to watch is To Live and Die in L.A. Also a top 10, maybe even a top 5 for some people, is a car chase scene.
Peterson and Defoe in To Live and Die in L.A. are great, hard movie to locate for purchase at reasonable price. I believe someone did a review and then created a drop box to download the movie for free
As a teenager soon after this came out, I was infatuated with the soundtrack. The song, "Graham's Theme" by Michel Rubini, remains one of my favorite songs.
Grahams Theme is no-joke, absolutely awesome. I read somewhere it was composed based on Mann's infatuation of the ending guitar solo of Pink Floyd's 'Comfortably Numb'. And that same kind of sound was also present on Mann's 1981 movie "Thief". Check that out if you haven't. And, pay special attention to Tangerine Dream's score at the end. It's titled as "Confrontation". Oh and it's awesome as heck.
This is a masterpiece of cinema in my opinion. The music alone is impressive, but when matched with the well-shot scenes, it's amazing. I'm glad you got to experience this. Heat next.
@@robwalsh9843 Hopkins hammed up the character in SOTL to such an extent that it was hard to see how he was supposed to have fooled anyone into thinking he was normal. He reined that in somewhat when he did Hannibal. Brian Cox's version, and Mads Mikkelsons in the TV series too, are much more chilling because they're charming but as viewers you know that they're serial killing cannibals capable for doing anything.
@@sadmachine7486 Hopkins is a phenomenal actor and deserves praise for chilling the blood of every man, woman, and child that saw him in SOTL. But I certainly see your point. Cox and Mikkelsen definitely have a suave, manufactured charm to them. As an audience, you just think "hey, look at these nice pleasant men. I wonder what their deal is?"
@@sadmachine7486 well he was already in prison in SOTL. He’s not trying to fool anyone into thinking he’s innocent or normal. As we see later in Red Dragon, that’s not how Hannibal acts in the outside world. He’s simply trying to play with Clarice while he talks to her in prison.
Great reaction and discussion! One of my favorite films. Manhunter was made before (and based on a novel, titled Red Dragon, that was written before) The Silence of the Lambs. Lector’s popularity in Manhunter (which was titled that rather than Red Dragon to avoid confusion with some other movie released that year) led the author, Thomas Harris, to give him in a larger role in the second novel. Then the second movie was such a huge Oscar-winning hit, that they went back and remade Red Dragon with Hopkins (using the novel’s correct title), and also made him the main character of the third novel and its movie, both titled Hannibal.
I see Will running and crashing through the glass as a metaphor for him breaking out of the mental prison he had been forced into by his method of catching these crazies. Especially Lector. When he's outside the house and says that he's got someone in there with him, he's also talking about himself. Those psychos are in his mind. "Stop it!" "Stop!" So he makes it just about one-on-one, physical confrontation. No 'mind set', no spotting a book on a shelf. "It's just you and me, sport!" He's either going to kill him or be killed. And when it's all over and Reba asks him who he is, he says, "I'm Will Graham." The demons are gone. Now all he has to deal with are the physical scars. And Molly sees that at the end.
William Petersen is an underrated actor , he got famous for playing Gil Grissom in CSI Tv show when he was almost 50 years old , this movie ,To live and die in L.A. 1985 and Fear 1996 are the best movies he was in which is a shame .
yes He was great in those films, BUt when an actor not in the TOP in earnings and bringing the fans , get a chance like he did with CSI they gotta grab that and get set for life with residuals from a long running series
I never watched CSI, but I love Manhunter, Fear and To love and die in LA. Its a shame he didnt become a huge star as a leading man in feature films, but Im still glad that he was recocnised for his work on CSI, which even led him to receiving star on hollywood walk of fame.
This movie introduced me to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida. When my folks heard I liked the song, they played the full length version from a record they had. Great movie and legendary tune.
@19:43 "This might make him F*ck up" considering she is literally sat on top of him at that precise moment, never was a truer word ever spoken o_0 lol XD
This movie is based on the Thomas Harris book "Red Dragon", which he wrote a few years before publishing his novel "Silence of the Lambs". There was also a 2002 film based on the book, called (appropriately enough) "Red Dragon", in which Anthony Hopkins reprised his role as Hannibal.
@@MikeHunt90731 If they would've got a competent director it could've been a great remake, but they got Brett Ratner. Luckily, the material and cast are so good that the movie turned out to be decent, but it could've been a masterpiece if it had a great director. Manhunter is the better movie because of Michael Mann's direction.
Brian Cox did what Hannibal was an educated killer intelligence but not quite right. He was asked to reprise his role for Silence of the Lambs but because this movie didn't do good at the box office he passed. Silence would have been a different film
@@TBRSchmitt The book Red Dragon came out in 1981 and the book Silence of the Lambs came out in 1988 so this film was definitely made as a stand alone. :)
This film is a masterpiece, it was important for Graham to bust through the window at the end, this film has a strong motif of reflections and mirrors, everytime Will has a breakthrough, the moment is coupled with him looking at a reflection, one could argue his reflected self is his version of the killer, constructed in his mind, (think of his "It's just you and me know sport" line) Will shattering the window at the end was him shattering that dark self, it was a confrontation with the killer and the killer of his mind.
This is my absolute favorite of all Lecter related features. I love the ambience, the beautiful shots, soundtrack, the editing, it’s really a beautiful film and William Petersen, Tom Noonan, Brian Cox and Joan Allen do a phenomenal job
This is going to blow your mind, but Stephen Lang who played the journalist from the Tattler, is the same guy who played the extremely buff Col. Miles Quaritch in Avatar. I am also a huge Dennis Farina’s work (Midnight Run, Manhunter, Bottle Shock, Out of Sight). Frankie Faison appears in both this movie as well as The Silence of the Lambs. Here he plays the cop in the precinct who communicates with Crawford on board the jet working through the drivers licenses. In The Silence of the Lambs, he is the guard at the asylum who Clarice meets just before entering the wing of cells with Lecter at the end. He’s also one of my favorite character actors (The Thomass Crown Affair (1999), Coming to America, Mississippi Burning). Brian Cox has an unbelievably long list of brilliant film roles (The Boxer, Manhunter, The Long Kiss Goodnight, The Bourne Series, and many more).
Michael Mann is probably one of the biggest influences over what we think of as the "80s Asthetic".. between this movie, Thief, and Miami Vice, he popularised the "Neon Noir" look, and Miami Vice was so big it even influenced fashion and music taste. I also really dig Brian Cox as Hannibal. Hes not over the top like Hopkins. Hes not a ham... hes just an arrogant psychopath.
Saw this when it came out. Cool to see all the approaches to this world over the years. I liked that Michael Mann used Tom Noonan (Dollarhyde) again years later when he made Heat. I smiled when I saw him on screen again in a Mann movie. Nice.
Thank you for reacting to this!!! I suggest you watch Heat directed by Michael Mann. He was a big influence Christopher Nolan. You will see the similarities. Fun Fact... the scene where Will and his wife are in bed talking about him to go back to work for the FBI was filmed during the daytime. Michael Mann used a dark purple filter in front of the camera to make it look so good.
Heat is excellent. It was originally going to be a TV show. They even made a pilot episode that was rejected by the execs. That was later released as L.A. Takedown which is worth watching.
"Red Dragon" was the title of the book this film was based on by Thomas Harris, author of all the Hannibal books. It was first made into the film, "Manhunter," then remade later into the film "Red Dragon."
My friends and I have loved this movie for 35 years now. If y'all enjoyed William Petersen's performance here, check him out in To Live and Die in LA which was released the year before Manhunter. Two highly underrated 80s movies.
My first video of yours- this is my second favorite film of all time, so I’ve watched a lot of content on it. Yours is the first reaction video I’ve seen, and most I’ve seen usually pit this against Red Dragon. My point is I can’t remember the last time this was watched and appreciated based solely on its merits. Yes, you rightly brought up SOTL as the other impactful screen presence for Hannibal, but you stayed on Manhunter (as a topic). I honestly can’t remember the last time this movie was “talked about” as opposed to being dissected, compared against Red Dragon or dismissed as “too 80s” or “older than SOTL.” Thank you. I enjoyed watching you two enjoy it, talk about it as movie fans and dive into it with no agenda. I’ll be subscribing- it’s refreshing to see people “just” TALK about the movies as fans/viewers. Excellent video!
I'm a little late but you said it exactly. Manhunter is an outright classic, and I really didn't care for the later Red Dragon film. Brett Ratner is a hack.
Great reaction - did you notice the tabloid reporter is Stephen Lang from Avatar - this movie is what we called a "sleeper", a below the radar film that turns out to be really good - I think this was an early "forensic thriller" - and now that formula's ubiquitous - I think Hannibal was insulted that Graham caught him - sour grapes, indignant at being bested by someone he regarded as "inferior" - my favorite character here is Tom Noonan as Dollarhyde -
great reaction....this is one of my favorite movies. I actually saw it in the theater in 1986 when it came out. To me one Michael Mann's most underrated films.
I recognize one actor that was in the Silence of the Lambs and it’s sequel HANNIBAL it was the Black actor who matched the name and race of the Red Dragon in MANHUNTER in HANNIBAL he plays a Orderly who befriended HANNIBAL in SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
I read the book (Red Dragon) in the early 90's, but I remember the Freddie Lounds character had his lips completely bit off. I remember Lounds saying "you romised!" as it appeared on the page, indicating he could not use his lips to make the "p" sound.
The book was really good. Disturbing, but good. The thing I remember most is Dollarhyde constantly thinking about "becoming," which made me think of a butterfly, then a moth = Silence of the Lambs. Well written and paced
Dolarhyde developed the internal identity of the “Red Dragon” from an artwork by William Blake that affected him intensely when he was young. It’s visible up on his wall at 19:11 in your video. And after Graham shoots him, he is lying on the floor with the pool of blood making wings, like the dragon’s, on either side of his body. Lots of levels to this film!
Just a heads up. Red Dragon is a remake of Manhunter, but with more insight into the life and mind of the tooth fairy. Red Dragon combines the suspense of Manhunter and the gore of Silence of the Lambs. I hope you choose to watch it.
If I remember correctly, Red Dragon was much more like the book. And I must be only one who really likes Hannibal rising, I understand how people don't like it but I think it's good story of its own and not something to think too much as canon.
I love the scene near the end where Will figures it all out watching the video tapes, with Dennis Farina watching him. The logical progression is slow, progressive, and methodical. Most movies would rush through this. The remake, Red Dragon, doesn't do this scene half as well.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE this movie and saw it before any of the others. BUT, after reading the Red Dragon book, I now enjoy the movie Red Dragon just as much...honestly probably more as it tells us a bit more about Hannibal and has not only Hopkins but Norton in it.
This is the role that pretty much got the lead William Petersen his role as the lead in the TV series "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" back in the "00's. An excellent series if you haven't seen it. The film "Red Dragon" with Hopkins as Hannibal is a near scene for scene remake. Fun to compare the two, as well as spotting the few actors both this and "Silence" share, playing different roles.
"The film "Red Dragon" with Hopkins as Hannibal is a near scene for scene remake." But Red Dragon follows the book more closely and has a lot that is left out of this one. RD has a much better ending in my opinion, without the silly jump through the window action scene. I'd love to see them watch RD without the prejudice I think a lot of people have for it.
I love that you guys reacted to this film. It’s long been high on my list. I’ve always felt that Will came out of this more a psychologically whole because he was able to literally kill the Tooth Fairy. It was his way to, in a sense and metaphorically , exorcise the demon he allowed into himself in order to catch this monster. That’s why the brash, reckless crash through window. He needed to be the one kill him. Red Dragon is the remake of Manhunter. In spite of an excellent cast it’s a bit inferior, in my opinion.
I do have to say the music really sets the tone of this movie as you watch it. The directer of this movie Michael Mann got really involved with picking the music that he used in the movies to set up the tone of each scene. You can see this in movies like Thief (1981), The Keep (1983), and The Last of the Mohicans (1992) to name a few. It was nice to see that you pick this movie, I was one of many that said you should watch this movie so thank you, and I am glad you liked it.
I have never seen this movie? The one mind blowing movie that I liked William Peterson in is, "To Live And Die In LA" This movie somehow flew under the radar but is such a intense movie that blew my hair back?!! Please react to this movie it has a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes
In the Red Dragon book Dolarhyde has one hell of a backstory. He was abandoned by his mother at birth for being born deformed and with a cleft lip, he gets sent to an orphanage where the other kids actually call him Cunt Face and he's later adopted by his grandma who runs a nursing home and is crazy. One night when he wets the bed she threatens to cut his dick off if he does it again. Then when his grandma gets dementia he gets sent to live with the mother who abandoned him but his stepsiblings smash a mirror by throwing him into it. But the tragic backstory is done the right way since it makes clear that no matter what happened to him what Dolarhyde's doing is still evil. It explains his crimes but doesn't justify them. Will even says that even though he feels sorry for the innocent kid Dolarhyde used to be he only wants to kill the monstrous adult he is.
This was directed by Michael Mann, a great director. You should check out some of his other great films such as "The Jericho Mile" (1979) with Peter Strauss, who won an Emmy for his role -- "Heat" (1995) with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro in their first ever on screen performance together -- "Collateral" (2004) with Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise. All are worth a watch.
It’s so cool you guys reacted to this under appreciated classic. I’m one of those people that likes this more than Silence of the Lambs. There’s another amazing Michael Mann movie you should react to if you haven’t seen it yet. Heat with Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro, plus at least 15 other other great actors that you’ll recognize, including a couple from Manhunter and Silence of the Lambs.
The original with The great William Peterson ! And the musical score is awesome I had this cassette, thanks for sharing your always interesting in depth reactions
This is one of those movies I've found myself continually repurchasing on DVD and Blu-ray with each updated release. Fun Home Video Fact: The original Anchor Bay DVD release of the Theatrical Cut was mistakenly a hybrid version, which added footage from the Director's Cut, but lost crucial dialogue from the actual Theatrical version.
Love this reaction, this movie is one of my favorites. Random fact for you all. If you can believe me, the actor who played the tabloid journalist Freddie Lounds Is played by Stephen Lang. He was also the very scarred soldier in Avatar and the blind veteran in Don't Breathe.
Yes!! Even though the film was a box office disappointment, it's gone in to become a cult classic, and the cinematography is stunning, like you're watching a music video, due to how it was filmed.
Hey guys, just started following you two and I'm checking out your older reactions. I caught this movie on opening day at Mann's Theater in Hollywood (I was living five and a half blocks from there at the time). Glad to see people checking this movie out. Cheers.
This movie has such a cool color scheme! One of Michael Mann’s best and along with To Live And Die In LA an outstanding performance from William Petersen
Manhunter sunk in the box office upon its original release, but it holds so good. The characters, visuals, music, everything is top notch and just screams "Michael Mann" 👌🏻👍🏻.
Regarding Graham’s decision to jump through the window: obviously there’s a dramatic/cinematic element to the decision, but Graham was also armed with a revolver loaded with Glaser safety slugs. Those types of rounds were specifically designed not to overpenetrate obstacles. They were originally intended to be used by Air Marshals against potential hijackers on aircraft and hostage rescue units. Shooting a target through glass, especially one with a hostage, is always ill advised; but doing so with that type of ammunition would basically never be a good idea.
If you and your wife hasn't seen any of these Michael Mann classics, I would love to see both of your reactions to Last of the Mohicans. And of course Heat, Collateral;' even the Miami Vice movie.
Yeah. nobody remembers Insider any more. It seems to have fallen down a memory hole or something - two people I saw it with in the cinema back when it came out had no memory of it at all when I asked them about it after I rewatched it recently. They had no idea what I was talking about. They were all, “Michael Mann did it? Who’s in it? Wow, that sounds really good! When does it come out?” 😳
Chronological Order of Book Publication Date: Red Dragon (Book 1: 1981) - Made into Manhunter (1986) and Red Dragon (2002) films Silence of the Lambs (Book 2: 1988) - Made into Silence of the Lambs (1991) film Hannibal (Book 3: 1999) - Made into Hannibal (2001) film Hannibal Rising (Book 4: 2006) - Made into Hannibal Rising (2007), which is the origin of Hannibal Lecter and takes place before Red Dragon/Manhunter Hannibal (TV Series) - Covers all 4 books Clarice (TV Series) - Based off of Silence of the Lambs So glad you guys did this film. Silence of the Lambs gets all of the credit for Anthony Hopkins and Jodie Foster's amazing performances, and it deserves a lot of credit. However, I feel like Manhunter gets overlooked so much, and I could not wait for you guys to watch this. Glad to see you guys also recognized most of this all-star cast too. Thanks for the awesome film review and glad you enjoyed it.
Probably already been mentioned in the comments, but the press guy is Stephen Lang - hard to believe it's the same guy who was the villain in Avatar, and Ike Clanton in Tombstone. He's a real chameleon-type actor.
You should see Red Dragon, based on the same book that this was based on. It connects the Anthony Hopkins Hannibal films and features Ed Norton as Graham, Harvey Kietel as Crawford, Philip Seymour Hoffman as Loundes and Ralph Fiennes as the Tooth Fairy. It is underrated. It is a more faithful adaptation (especially the climax) and features more scenes with the Tooth Fairy and Hannibal.
I think the main reason that this movie was overlooked when it was originally released is because Micheal Mann, for some strange reason, decided to call the it Manhunter. The book, Red Dragon, which was published in 1981. Had been a bestseller. If Mann had simply called the movie, Red Dragon, I believe it would have done much better at the box office. At the time, people simply didn't know that it was an adaptation of that book.
Loved how you two were solving the mystery along with Will Graham. And it's way cute how your arms are linked throughout the video. Manhunter is a terrific film, even though I'm not sure what to make of the finale, in which director Michael Mann goes full Miami Vice. Are you going to tackle the other Hannibal films?
Will Graham's friend is Jack Crawford, Clarice's boss in Silence of the Lambs. Here he's portrayed by the late Dennis Farina instead of Scott Glenn. Manhunter is based on Thomas Harris' novel "Red Dragon". It was originally written as a standalone story, but Harris decided to expand on the Hannibal character in a sequel with a new protagonist (a rookie woman instead of a seasoned man). A great grim thriller for you to watch would be David Fincher's Seven. Another amazing detective story is Curtis Hanson's L.A. Confidential (which I can't recommend enough).
@@thunderstruck5484 You're very right. Loved him in Snatch, Get Shorty and even Paparazzi (the first film I took notice of him). Always a reliable presence.
I think what draws myself to serial killers and the stories of the demented is watching and recognizing a broken human object and hoping we can fix / save them before they succumb to their deepest inner demons. We all have demons inside of us, but are able to overcome those feelings, because we were loved and nurtured by our family and friends. But what if we were one of those people who were mentally and physically abused by the ones closest to us. How does that change the prism through which we see people and society as a whole. Manhunter and Silence of the Lambs allows us to see when it goes horribly wrong. Just some food for thought.
We all have neferious thoughts it just surprises me how well we all as humans keep them intact every day. For instance we all drive machines thats can obliterate us but we chose to follow the rules of the road. We all have choices and thats the scary part of life. We are in control of no one.
Absolute classic from visionary filmmaker Michael Mann which still has best portrayal of Hannibal Lecter in my opinion. Anthony Hopkins is a legendary actor no doubt, but I cannot take his cartoony Hannibal serious whatsoever. Brian Cox is the real deal in this movie :-)
This Michael Mann ground breaking film started the "New" Serial Killer/Detective craze of the 80's and 90's...Dante Spinotti's cinematography was spectacular! This movie is the very reason William Peterson's career was launched into the CSI franchise on CBS.
After this you should go right to Red Dragon. The same exact movie but done differently and Anthony Hopkins is back with added bonuses, Edward Norton in the William L. Peterson role and Harvey Keitel as his boss. Also with Philip Seymour Hoffman and Ray Fiennes. Before William L. Peterson did this, he starred in To Live And Die In LA. directed by William Friedkin (The French Connection, The Exorcist). LA also stars William Dafoe. Has one of the best car chases. Excellent movie
So glad that you guys liked the movie, it is overlooked alot. I liked the way you commented on the investigation and how it concentrated on it. We actually watched this in my Criminal Investigation class when I was taking Criminal Justice in college because of it. This is Red Dragon just named differently because they did have the rights to the name of the book. There is a Red Dragon movie, kind of a re-make of this with Ed Norton as Will Graham and of course Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal. Honestly I think this is better, but I think you guys should watch it.
As usual TBR SCHMIT analysis nailed this movie. In 1986 I use to work in a movie theatre where I had to see Manhunter everyday. It spooked the hell out of me, but end up buying the video then. Red Dragon is a remake of this as Vince Vaun's Psycho to the original.
For the 2002 film Red Dragon, they actually inserted additional scenes to include Lector more in the film. That includes the opening scenes, where Lector is at the opera, the dinner he hosts, Will coming to talk to him about the case he's on and Lector's attacking Will. It also includes the closing scene which hints to be taking place in Silence of the Lambs.
There’s no plan at the end, Will can no longer distinguish between the tooth fairy killing his next victim and Will himself being the killer, he had to stop it.
Song called in a Gadda da vida, from what I read, Michael Mann spent years corresponding with murderer Dennis Wayne Wallace, who was motivated by his obsession with the woman he barely knew and believes that the song was their song
Now you should watch the more recent adaptation of the same book, Red Dragon, with Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal again. The ending is completely different, so it won't feel like a straight remake.
I’m actually impressed by how Red Dragon was able to cast actors of equivalent stature - Joan Allen to Emily Watson, Dennis Farina to Harvey Keitel, William Petersen to Edward Norton are not downgrades. Regardless of how one feels about Brett Ratner not being in the same league as the legendary Michael Mann, that is a very strong cast with which to shepherd a remake.
The probably reason why he leapt through the window rather than shoot is that the film makes a big deal of him acquiring and using Glaser safety slugs which were designed to cause massive soft tissue damage with a minimum of barrier penetration to be used indoors or in planes to reduce the chances of hitting something that you weren't aiming at. Michael Mann's work (see Heat, Miami Vice, and Collateral) tend to show a great attention to detail when it comes to firearms and the guy who provided the slugs in the film, Jim Zubiena, was a competitive shooter and firearms instructor who was famously in an episode of Miami Vice showing his extreme skill.
Silence of the Lambs is the Sequel of this,I saw this movie long before it.The Standout actor in this was Tom Noonan who played Dollarhyde. The Director Michael Man also did a outstanding job with this.
What makes Manhunter so great is, first it is a Michael Mann movie using his old style and filmmaking, Miami Vice handwriting all over it. Even the end credots song "Heartbeat" appears in a Miami Vice episode. Second it is about the characters and psychology, not just scares and effects. This is what sets Manhunter apart from "Red Dragon". If you compare the essential scene where Graham realizes that Dollarhyde has seen the tapes, compare how Manhunter handles that scene and how Red Dragon does it rather like a quick plot twist and not a major psychological dramatic turning point.
We love trying to figure out these crime based films! Thank you all for suggesting this amazing addition to the Hannibal universe! What are some other great movies where Sam and I get to play detective!?
Thank you all for the support!
For another great crime film starring William Petersen, definitely check out To Live and Die in LA.
Awesome! Thanks for the suggestion!
The True Detective series. Season 1 and 3 are excellent.
Also Clue, based off the board game, and Murder on the Orient Express, the 1974 version.
@@Rmlohner Yes! To Live and Die and L.A. is awesome. Another great lead role for William Peterson.
Knives Out. Fantastic detective film.
Manhunter is a beautiful example of the Neon-Noir genre. The remake, Red Dragon, may be closer to the source material, but I believe this is the superior film. The scene with the tiger is breath taking. The finale set to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida is thrilling. And Brian Cox plays an understated but quietly threatening Hannibal Lecter. This movie deserves way more recognition. Glad to see it get a bit more here.
Red Dragon and Hannibal aren't really regarded that highly but I never really understood why. I think they're pretty solid films
The tiger scene from Red Dragon can't hold a candle to this film's version, but what were they going to do? If they changed it, they're stuck with a weaker version, but if they copied what Mann did, they'd look like imitators. It was something of a no-win situation given that Mann basically did a perfect version of that scene...it managed to make a visual presentation feel like a tactile one.
I prefer Red Dragon, I think it's mostly the ordering of the same events I prefer. The "love story" felt tacked on to the end in this one, where it was more throughout the movie in Red Dragon. I think maybe I preferred that cast more as well.
Red Dragon follows the book and the ending makes sense. Anthony Hopkins is back. Since Anthony Hopkins is there, they made the Hannibal part bigger. Both are based on the same book. The guy who played Chilton is back. This seems like a Miami Vice episode. It was good, but the book is the best. Hannibal book is epic. The film is OK, but good. They left way too much out.
Agree totally!
This movie is an overlooked gem when it comes to the Hannibal franchise
Whenever I see someone reacting to a Mann flick, I click immediately. My brain was molded by Miami Vice, The Last of the Mohicans, and Heat though. I gotta say the mid-80's locals and directorial style just make this movie for me.
Cripes, without even looking at your comment, I wrote almost exactly the same thing!
@@OnTheRocks71 Agreed. I super enjoyed The Last of the Mohicans and Heat.
Heat is next level cool gripping. Such a great ride1
It's better than both the Hannibal book and film and Hannibal Rising that's for sure.
To me, Manhunter and Silence of the Lambs are the only two masterpieces in the franchise.
Denis Farina's look of contempt at the forensics guy who missed the killers print has always been one of my favourite tiny pieces of cinema
That scene really oozes emotions.
Farina used to be a cop in Chicago, I’m sure he’s had experiences like that in real life
That but also they question Will Graham and he's like "this is why he's the best"
Lead William Peterson was also great in To Live and Die in LA with Willem Dafoe
That movie was released the same year as Manhunter. I thought William Peterson was going to be a big star then he almost disappeared then CSI came along
Excellent movie.
@@michael777e yeah he did great in both. I want to recommend that they react to To live and die in LA but it’s so bleak lol.
@@NoelleMar great sound track by Wang Chung
One of the greatest car chases of al time. In the theater it was nausea-inducing.
This movie is sooooooooooo damn good. Drenched in 80s atmosphere, the pulsing synth soundtrack, and an absolutely stellar cast. Speaking as a guy who thinks Anthony Hopkins is truly the GOAT, this is my preferred adaptation of “Red Dragon.”
Agreed. Edward Norton IS my favorite actor, Anthony Hopkins is my second or third favorite, and I love Ralph Fiennes too. But yet, I think Manhunter is better than Red Dragon also.
@@Grnademaster Brett Ratner is a shit director. It would've been a much better movie with a more talented director at the helm.
Manhunter was a totally underrated film. Even when I first saw it as a 16 year old junior in high school in the fall of '86, it blew me away. I'd never seen quite a flick like it before or since. That was Michael Mann directing it in the midst of his Miami Vice fame
if hope they remaster hit witouth the cheesy music
There really is no comparison. Manhunter is a classic.
One of my favorite films of the 80's. Michael Mann is one cinematic genius
The first time I saw this movie I felt like I was drowning in the '80s with Miami Vice vibes. But I didn't realize it was a Michael Mann movie at the time. Rewatched it and I appreciated it a lot more. Especially the cinematography with the stark and cold sets.
There are quite a lot of lovely shots in this movie that go unnoticed today, but when contrasted to movies that came out in the mid-80's, you can see Mann's eye all over it.
When Graham steps on the elevator to go to his hotel room to review the home videos.... That is such a Michael Mann shot. And it's just got a cool vibe to it.
"Mann"hunter
Heat is his best movie imo.
Also with a similar 80s vibe and had Michael Mann's mitts in it is Band of the Hand.
This movie is an underrated classic. I love that they leave the violence up to the viewer's imagination. Great atmosphere, score, acting, everything!
I think by setting the killer on Graham he's testing him - if Graham gets killed Lecter gets revenge, if he catches the killer it proves Graham is good so makes his catching Lecter less of a humiliation
Interesting. That would certainly fall in the category of tending to the narcissistic needs of Lektor.
The one actor who actually kept his role from this film as the Lecter series continued was Frankie Faison as Barney the orderly. Today he's probably best known as Commissioner Burrell from The Wire, and more recently had a highly memorable but short-lived role as Pop the barber in Luke Cage.
There were two actors who appeared in both Manhunter and The Silence of the Lambs: Frankie Faison as Lt. Fisk/Barney, and Dan Butler as Jimmy Price (the fingerprinting specialist) in this one and one of the entomologists whom Clarice gives the bug cocoon to in The Silence of the Lambs.
Another great film is Michael Mann’s directorial debut, “Thief,” starring James Caan as a master thief trying to get out of the business. James Caan says it’s his favorite performance of his career. William L. Petersen and Dennis Farina (Crawford in Manhunter) have small parts, too.
The Best! Great Movie must watch
It's Farina's film debut.
The interesting thing is that Farina was a former cop playing a gangster while the guy playing the cop was a jewel thief in real life.
Anthony Hopkins Lecter is charismatic and fascinating. But Brian Cox's is a terrifying cold-blooded killer. And the music of Shriekback in this film is dynamite.
Mads Mikkelsen is amazing as well. I really need Netflix to pick that series up
Shriekback is one of the most underrated bands ever. The fact that their recent albums receive zero attention from public and critics is heartbreaking.
Well, Hopkins create his Hannibal based in Dracula type of charming, Cox's based his interpretation in real cold serial killers so his version is more like a real psycopath.
He’s scarier in Succession.
I thought the exact same thing! Cox's Lecter stare is absolutely terrifying. The shot of him staring when he asks Graham if he's ever seen blood in the moonlight is the single most terrifying shot of him!
I think you'll like the TV series. It's all about Graham working with Hannibal and how he figures out who Hannibal is and imprisons him.
I agree. I really enjoy the movies, but the series is something else altogether. One of my most favorite tv series ever. Absolutely breath-taking set pieces plus phenomenal music. Mads & Hugh are freakin' AMAZING. I mean, everyone in the show is great, but those two...DAMN. I need to re-watch it. Again.
Let me add to the chorus: among the best American television shows ever made, and definitely one of the most sumptuous and gorgeous shows of all time.
Greatest art direction ever for tv
I have all the movies and all of the Hannibal season's. Absolutely brilliant!!!
This movie's a masterpiece. Michael Mann directed some great films incl. Heat, Thief, Collateral, and he was also the brains behind Miami Vice.
Another classic with Peterson from the 80's to watch is To Live and Die in L.A. Also a top 10, maybe even a top 5 for some people, is a car chase scene.
Great movie, I think more people should see it.
Peterson and Defoe in To Live and Die in L.A. are great, hard movie to locate for purchase at reasonable price. I believe someone did a review and then created a drop box to download the movie for free
To Live and Die in LA is one of the greatest films ever. Great recommendation.
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Was just about to say this please guys react to To Live And Die In LA it's one of my all time favorites
As a teenager soon after this came out, I was infatuated with the soundtrack. The song, "Graham's Theme" by Michel Rubini, remains one of my favorite songs.
i used to have that as my featured vid on my page back in like 2010
what a track
Grahams Theme is no-joke, absolutely awesome. I read somewhere it was composed based on Mann's infatuation of the ending guitar solo of Pink Floyd's 'Comfortably Numb'. And that same kind of sound was also present on Mann's 1981 movie "Thief". Check that out if you haven't. And, pay special attention to Tangerine Dream's score at the end. It's titled as "Confrontation". Oh and it's awesome as heck.
Waxworks Records in the U.S. have released a great double-vinyl for Manhunter waxworkrecords.com/products/manhunter?variant=12387100524605
I'm obsessed with Prime Movers' Strong As I Am
the song at the tiger scene & the creepy sex scene song by Shriekback are both so good.
This is a masterpiece of cinema in my opinion. The music alone is impressive, but when matched with the well-shot scenes, it's amazing. I'm glad you got to experience this. Heat next.
The film that introduced Hannibal Lecter to the world.
Brian Cox was a good Lecter. Distinct from Anthony Hopkins, but still worthy of the source material.
@@robwalsh9843 Hopkins hammed up the character in SOTL to such an extent that it was hard to see how he was supposed to have fooled anyone into thinking he was normal. He reined that in somewhat when he did Hannibal.
Brian Cox's version, and Mads Mikkelsons in the TV series too, are much more chilling because they're charming but as viewers you know that they're serial killing cannibals capable for doing anything.
@@sadmachine7486 Hopkins is a phenomenal actor and deserves praise for chilling the blood of every man, woman, and child that saw him in SOTL. But I certainly see your point. Cox and Mikkelsen definitely have a suave, manufactured charm to them. As an audience, you just think "hey, look at these nice pleasant men. I wonder what their deal is?"
@@sadmachine7486 well he was already in prison in SOTL. He’s not trying to fool anyone into thinking he’s innocent or normal. As we see later in Red Dragon, that’s not how Hannibal acts in the outside world. He’s simply trying to play with Clarice while he talks to her in prison.
@@sadmachine7486 He can ham up cuz he’s already in a glass box.
Hope a lot of people recommend Primal Fear with Richard Gere and Edward Norton. Norton’s performance is worth the watch by itself!
Yes!!! This movie is absolutely incredible and no one talks about it. TBR WATCH PRIMAL FEAR! Will blow you away
Great reaction and discussion! One of my favorite films. Manhunter was made before (and based on a novel, titled Red Dragon, that was written before) The Silence of the Lambs. Lector’s popularity in Manhunter (which was titled that rather than Red Dragon to avoid confusion with some other movie released that year) led the author, Thomas Harris, to give him in a larger role in the second novel. Then the second movie was such a huge Oscar-winning hit, that they went back and remade Red Dragon with Hopkins (using the novel’s correct title), and also made him the main character of the third novel and its movie, both titled Hannibal.
I see Will running and crashing through the glass as a metaphor for him breaking out of the mental prison he had been forced into by his method of catching these crazies. Especially Lector. When he's outside the house and says that he's got someone in there with him, he's also talking about himself. Those psychos are in his mind. "Stop it!" "Stop!" So he makes it just about one-on-one, physical confrontation. No 'mind set', no spotting a book on a shelf. "It's just you and me, sport!" He's either going to kill him or be killed. And when it's all over and Reba asks him who he is, he says, "I'm Will Graham." The demons are gone. Now all he has to deal with are the physical scars. And Molly sees that at the end.
One of Michael Mann's best. The producers changed the name from Red Dragon to Manhunter so to avoid it being perceived as a martial arts film.
There was another movie named Red Dragon
with the actor who played in Angel Heart
Director Michael Camio
@@marktracy1721you’re thinking of “Year of the Dragon.” I personally like the movie a lot despite its flaws
William Petersen is an underrated actor , he got famous for playing Gil Grissom in CSI Tv show when he was almost 50 years old , this movie ,To live and die in L.A. 1985 and Fear 1996 are the best movies he was in which is a shame .
yes He was great in those films, BUt when an actor not in the TOP in earnings and bringing the fans , get a chance like he did with CSI they gotta grab that and get set for life with residuals from a long running series
Now he'll be returning to CSI.
I never watched CSI, but I love Manhunter, Fear and To love and die in LA. Its a shame he didnt become a huge star as a leading man in feature films, but Im still glad that he was recocnised for his work on CSI, which even led him to receiving star on hollywood walk of fame.
Fear would be another good movie to do a reaction to.
He turned down being Henry Hill in Goodfellas, a role in Platoon, and a role in Heat. His talent was definitely recognized
This movie introduced me to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida. When my folks heard I liked the song, they played the full length version from a record they had. Great movie and legendary tune.
You really gotta give it to Chris Elliott though. Guy just shows up everywhere and IT'S AWESOME.
@19:43 "This might make him F*ck up" considering she is literally sat on top of him at that precise moment, never was a truer word ever spoken o_0 lol XD
lol
This movie is based on the Thomas Harris book "Red Dragon", which he wrote a few years before publishing his novel "Silence of the Lambs". There was also a 2002 film based on the book, called (appropriately enough) "Red Dragon", in which Anthony Hopkins reprised his role as Hannibal.
Yeah, but the Hopkins RED DRAGON is terrible. Really, REALLY bad.
@@cinemarchaeologist why do you say that?
@@MikeHunt90731 because it was clear he wasn't putting in any effort.
@@MikeHunt90731 If they would've got a competent director it could've been a great remake, but they got Brett Ratner. Luckily, the material and cast are so good that the movie turned out to be decent, but it could've been a masterpiece if it had a great director. Manhunter is the better movie because of Michael Mann's direction.
@@thefilmeffect6089 I dug it
The cinematic introduction to Hannibal Lector!!!!!! So underrated!!!
Definitely deserves more hype!
Brian Cox did what Hannibal was an educated killer intelligence but not quite right. He was asked to reprise his role for Silence of the Lambs but because this movie didn't do good at the box office he passed. Silence would have been a different film
@@TBRSchmitt The book Red Dragon came out in 1981 and the book Silence of the Lambs came out in 1988 so this film was definitely made as a stand alone. :)
Now time for the William Peterson tour de force “To Live and Die in L A “ movie came out around same time as Manhunter thanks again
Absolutely! One of the best movies of the 80's and still holds up beautifully to this day!
This film is a masterpiece, it was important for Graham to bust through the window at the end, this film has a strong motif of reflections and mirrors, everytime Will has a breakthrough, the moment is coupled with him looking at a reflection, one could argue his reflected self is his version of the killer, constructed in his mind, (think of his "It's just you and me know sport" line) Will shattering the window at the end was him shattering that dark self, it was a confrontation with the killer and the killer of his mind.
Nice observation. He erupts through a window from the world outside to the inner recess of the killers mind, his lair.
This is my absolute favorite of all Lecter related features. I love the ambience, the beautiful shots, soundtrack, the editing, it’s really a beautiful film and William Petersen, Tom Noonan, Brian Cox and Joan Allen do a phenomenal job
This is going to blow your mind, but Stephen Lang who played the journalist from the Tattler, is the same guy who played the extremely buff Col. Miles Quaritch in Avatar.
I am also a huge Dennis Farina’s work (Midnight Run, Manhunter, Bottle Shock, Out of Sight).
Frankie Faison appears in both this movie as well as The Silence of the Lambs. Here he plays the cop in the precinct who communicates with Crawford on board the jet working through the drivers licenses. In The Silence of the Lambs, he is the guard at the asylum who Clarice meets just before entering the wing of cells with Lecter at the end. He’s also one of my favorite character actors (The Thomass Crown Affair (1999), Coming to America, Mississippi Burning).
Brian Cox has an unbelievably long list of brilliant film roles (The Boxer, Manhunter, The Long Kiss Goodnight, The Bourne Series, and many more).
Thank you! I knew I’d seen him somewhere and I just couldn’t place him at first. Great spot.
Michael Mann is probably one of the biggest influences over what we think of as the "80s Asthetic".. between this movie, Thief, and Miami Vice, he popularised the "Neon Noir" look, and Miami Vice was so big it even influenced fashion and music taste. I also really dig Brian Cox as Hannibal. Hes not over the top like Hopkins. Hes not a ham... hes just an arrogant psychopath.
Saw this when it came out. Cool to see all the approaches to this world over the years.
I liked that Michael Mann used Tom Noonan (Dollarhyde) again years later when he made Heat. I smiled when I saw him on screen again in a Mann movie. Nice.
Thank you for reacting to this!!! I suggest you watch Heat directed by Michael Mann. He was a big influence Christopher Nolan. You will see the similarities. Fun Fact... the scene where Will and his wife are in bed talking about him to go back to work for the FBI was filmed during the daytime. Michael Mann used a dark purple filter in front of the camera to make it look so good.
Thanks for the support! I would love to check out more films by Michael Mann! Awesome trick of a filter!
@@mem1701movies I wrote a paper about it in college. Just amazing how it was compared to now!
Heat is excellent. It was originally going to be a TV show. They even made a pilot episode that was rejected by the execs. That was later released as L.A. Takedown which is worth watching.
@@John57945 Tom Noonan... I Forgot he was in Heat!
Round 2 tonight! Thank you so much!! #secondView!
You two are great detectives! I hope Prisoners, Gone Girl and Zodiac are on your watch list! The International is also worthwhile.
Four of my all-time personal favorites. Especially nice to see THE INTERNATIONAL get some love, such an underrated gem.
"Red Dragon" was the title of the book this film was based on by Thomas Harris, author of all the Hannibal books. It was first made into the film, "Manhunter," then remade later into the film "Red Dragon."
My friends and I have loved this movie for 35 years now. If y'all enjoyed William Petersen's performance here, check him out in To Live and Die in LA which was released the year before Manhunter. Two highly underrated 80s movies.
And of course you can see him in any number of episodes of CSI.
The big clue reveal build up is so subtly awesome, the way the music creeps up is so perfect.
Such a great movie... a bit of a hidden gem.
For sure!
@@TBRSchmitt the lead actor is the actor from the tv show CSI, in case you didn’t know. 👍🏼
Damn, what an unexpected pleasure. This movie blew my mind when I saw it the first time, especially the In A Gadda Da Vida sequence.
My first video of yours- this is my second favorite film of all time, so I’ve watched a lot of content on it. Yours is the first reaction video I’ve seen, and most I’ve seen usually pit this against Red Dragon.
My point is I can’t remember the last time this was watched and appreciated based solely on its merits. Yes, you rightly brought up SOTL as the other impactful screen presence for Hannibal, but you stayed on Manhunter (as a topic). I honestly can’t remember the last time this movie was “talked about” as opposed to being dissected, compared against Red Dragon or dismissed as “too 80s” or “older than SOTL.”
Thank you. I enjoyed watching you two enjoy it, talk about it as movie fans and dive into it with no agenda. I’ll be subscribing- it’s refreshing to see people “just” TALK about the movies as fans/viewers. Excellent video!
I'm a little late but you said it exactly. Manhunter is an outright classic, and I really didn't care for the later Red Dragon film. Brett Ratner is a hack.
Great reaction - did you notice the tabloid reporter is Stephen Lang from Avatar - this movie is what we called a "sleeper", a below the radar film that turns out to be really good - I think this was an early "forensic thriller" - and now that formula's ubiquitous - I think Hannibal was insulted that Graham caught him - sour grapes, indignant at being bested by someone he regarded as "inferior" - my favorite character here is Tom Noonan as Dollarhyde -
great reaction....this is one of my favorite movies. I actually saw it in the theater in 1986 when it came out. To me one Michael Mann's most underrated films.
I recognize one actor that was in the Silence of the Lambs and it’s sequel HANNIBAL it was the Black actor who matched the name and race of the Red Dragon in MANHUNTER in HANNIBAL he plays a Orderly who befriended HANNIBAL in SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
Barney.
I read the book (Red Dragon) in the early 90's, but I remember the Freddie Lounds character had his lips completely bit off. I remember Lounds saying "you romised!" as it appeared on the page, indicating he could not use his lips to make the "p" sound.
The book was really good. Disturbing, but good. The thing I remember most is Dollarhyde constantly thinking about "becoming," which made me think of a butterfly, then a moth = Silence of the Lambs. Well written and paced
Dolarhyde developed the internal identity of the “Red Dragon” from an artwork by William Blake that affected him intensely when he was young. It’s visible up on his wall at 19:11 in your video. And after Graham shoots him, he is lying on the floor with the pool of blood making wings, like the dragon’s, on either side of his body. Lots of levels to this film!
The scene of the reporter barreling down that ramp on will haunt me the rest of my life!
Just a heads up. Red Dragon is a remake of Manhunter, but with more insight into the life and mind of the tooth fairy. Red Dragon combines the suspense of Manhunter and the gore of Silence of the Lambs. I hope you choose to watch it.
I famously Don't Like Remakes but red dragon was great
If I remember correctly, Red Dragon was much more like the book.
And I must be only one who really likes Hannibal rising, I understand how people don't like it but I think it's good story of its own and not something to think too much as canon.
I love the scene near the end where Will figures it all out watching the video tapes, with Dennis Farina watching him. The logical progression is slow, progressive, and methodical. Most movies would rush through this. The remake, Red Dragon, doesn't do this scene half as well.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE this movie and saw it before any of the others. BUT, after reading the Red Dragon book, I now enjoy the movie Red Dragon just as much...honestly probably more as it tells us a bit more about Hannibal and has not only Hopkins but Norton in it.
Yes Joan Allen is tall, 5ft 10.
This movie is awesome, I've seen it so many times since the 90s and still watching it with pleasure.
This is the role that pretty much got the lead William Petersen his role as the lead in the TV series "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" back in the "00's. An excellent series if you haven't seen it. The film "Red Dragon" with Hopkins as Hannibal is a near scene for scene remake. Fun to compare the two, as well as spotting the few actors both this and "Silence" share, playing different roles.
"The film "Red Dragon" with Hopkins as Hannibal is a near scene for scene remake." But Red Dragon follows the book more closely and has a lot that is left out of this one. RD has a much better ending in my opinion, without the silly jump through the window action scene. I'd love to see them watch RD without the prejudice I think a lot of people have for it.
I love that you guys reacted to this film. It’s long been high on my list. I’ve always felt that Will came out of this more a psychologically whole because he was able to literally kill the Tooth Fairy. It was his way to, in a sense and metaphorically , exorcise the demon he allowed into himself in order to catch this monster. That’s why the brash, reckless crash through window. He needed to be the one kill him.
Red Dragon is the remake of Manhunter. In spite of an excellent cast it’s a bit inferior, in my opinion.
I do have to say the music really sets the tone of this movie as you watch it. The directer of this movie Michael Mann got really involved with picking the music that he used in the movies to set up the tone of each scene. You can see this in movies like Thief (1981), The Keep (1983), and The Last of the Mohicans (1992) to name a few. It was nice to see that you pick this movie, I was one of many that said you should watch this movie so thank you, and I am glad you liked it.
I have never seen this movie? The one mind blowing movie that I liked William Peterson in is, "To Live And Die In LA" This movie somehow flew under the radar but is such a intense movie that blew my hair back?!! Please react to this movie it has a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes
I'm hoping that all of these To Live And Die In LA comments will lead to this film being reacted to
@@japython Me too!
This is one of my top 5 movies of the 80's. You guys are awesome. Keep the movie train rolling.
In the Red Dragon book Dolarhyde has one hell of a backstory. He was abandoned by his mother at birth for being born deformed and with a cleft lip, he gets sent to an orphanage where the other kids actually call him Cunt Face and he's later adopted by his grandma who runs a nursing home and is crazy. One night when he wets the bed she threatens to cut his dick off if he does it again. Then when his grandma gets dementia he gets sent to live with the mother who abandoned him but his stepsiblings smash a mirror by throwing him into it. But the tragic backstory is done the right way since it makes clear that no matter what happened to him what Dolarhyde's doing is still evil. It explains his crimes but doesn't justify them. Will even says that even though he feels sorry for the innocent kid Dolarhyde used to be he only wants to kill the monstrous adult he is.
This was directed by Michael Mann, a great director. You should check out some of his other great films such as "The Jericho Mile" (1979) with Peter Strauss, who won an Emmy for his role -- "Heat" (1995) with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro in their first ever on screen performance together -- "Collateral" (2004) with Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise. All are worth a watch.
It’s so cool you guys reacted to this under appreciated classic. I’m one of those people that likes this more than Silence of the Lambs.
There’s another amazing Michael Mann movie you should react to if you haven’t seen it yet. Heat with Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro, plus at least 15 other other great actors that you’ll recognize, including a couple from Manhunter and Silence of the Lambs.
The original with The great William Peterson ! And the musical score is awesome I had this cassette, thanks for sharing your always interesting in depth reactions
This is one of those movies I've found myself continually repurchasing on DVD and Blu-ray with each updated release.
Fun Home Video Fact: The original Anchor Bay DVD release of the Theatrical Cut was mistakenly a hybrid version, which added footage from the Director's Cut, but lost crucial dialogue from the actual Theatrical version.
Love this reaction, this movie is one of my favorites. Random fact for you all. If you can believe me, the actor who played the tabloid journalist Freddie Lounds Is played by Stephen Lang. He was also the very scarred soldier in Avatar and the blind veteran in Don't Breathe.
3 actors in this movie , were in Silence. Dr Chilton, black sheriff was Barney, 1st cop at Hannibal's cell- back up or I'll Mace ur face!
Yes!! Even though the film was a box office disappointment, it's gone in to become a cult classic, and the cinematography is stunning, like you're watching a music video, due to how it was filmed.
We loved it!
Hey guys, just started following you two and I'm checking out your older reactions. I caught this movie on opening day at Mann's Theater in Hollywood (I was living five and a half blocks from there at the time). Glad to see people checking this movie out. Cheers.
This movie has such a cool color scheme! One of Michael Mann’s best and along with To Live And Die In LA an outstanding performance from William Petersen
Manhunter sunk in the box office upon its original release, but it holds so good. The characters, visuals, music, everything is top notch and just screams "Michael Mann" 👌🏻👍🏻.
Regarding Graham’s decision to jump through the window: obviously there’s a dramatic/cinematic element to the decision, but Graham was also armed with a revolver loaded with Glaser safety slugs. Those types of rounds were specifically designed not to overpenetrate obstacles. They were originally intended to be used by Air Marshals against potential hijackers on aircraft and hostage rescue units. Shooting a target through glass, especially one with a hostage, is always ill advised; but doing so with that type of ammunition would basically never be a good idea.
One of my all time favorite films. It is a surreal mixture of crime horror with a Miami Vice vibe. Plus, the soundtrack is great.
Love that you guys reviewed this movie; it's one of my favorites! Really enjoy watching your videos and Samantha's reactions are priceless!
Awesome! Hope you guys get more into director Michael Mann. Heat (1995. An all timer), Collateral, Last of the Mohicans.
Yeah we have not seen any of those so we will absolutely check them out!
@@TBRSchmitt Heat is amazing
If you and your wife hasn't seen any of these Michael Mann classics, I would love to see both of your reactions to Last of the Mohicans. And of course Heat, Collateral;' even the Miami Vice movie.
Great suggestions especially last of the mohicans , the insider is great too
Yeah. nobody remembers Insider any more. It seems to have fallen down a memory hole or something - two people I saw it with in the cinema back when it came out had no memory of it at all when I asked them about it after I rewatched it recently. They had no idea what I was talking about. They were all, “Michael Mann did it? Who’s in it? Wow, that sounds really good! When does it come out?” 😳
Chronological Order of Book Publication Date:
Red Dragon (Book 1: 1981) - Made into Manhunter (1986) and Red Dragon (2002) films
Silence of the Lambs (Book 2: 1988) - Made into Silence of the Lambs (1991) film
Hannibal (Book 3: 1999) - Made into Hannibal (2001) film
Hannibal Rising (Book 4: 2006) - Made into Hannibal Rising (2007), which is the origin of Hannibal Lecter and takes place before Red Dragon/Manhunter
Hannibal (TV Series) - Covers all 4 books
Clarice (TV Series) - Based off of Silence of the Lambs
So glad you guys did this film. Silence of the Lambs gets all of the credit for Anthony Hopkins and Jodie Foster's amazing performances, and it deserves a lot of credit. However, I feel like Manhunter gets overlooked so much, and I could not wait for you guys to watch this. Glad to see you guys also recognized most of this all-star cast too. Thanks for the awesome film review and glad you enjoyed it.
Probably already been mentioned in the comments, but the press guy is Stephen Lang - hard to believe it's the same guy who was the villain in Avatar, and Ike Clanton in Tombstone. He's a real chameleon-type actor.
You should see Red Dragon, based on the same book that this was based on. It connects the Anthony Hopkins Hannibal films and features Ed Norton as Graham, Harvey Kietel as Crawford, Philip Seymour Hoffman as Loundes and Ralph Fiennes as the Tooth Fairy. It is underrated. It is a more faithful adaptation (especially the climax) and features more scenes with the Tooth Fairy and Hannibal.
I think the main reason that this movie was overlooked when it was originally released is because Micheal Mann, for some strange reason, decided to call the it Manhunter. The book, Red Dragon, which was published in 1981. Had been a bestseller. If Mann had simply called the movie, Red Dragon, I believe it would have done much better at the box office. At the time, people simply didn't know that it was an adaptation of that book.
Loved how you two were solving the mystery along with Will Graham. And it's way cute how your arms are linked throughout the video. Manhunter is a terrific film, even though I'm not sure what to make of the finale, in which director Michael Mann goes full Miami Vice. Are you going to tackle the other Hannibal films?
Will Graham's friend is Jack Crawford, Clarice's boss in Silence of the Lambs. Here he's portrayed by the late Dennis Farina instead of Scott Glenn. Manhunter is based on Thomas Harris' novel "Red Dragon". It was originally written as a standalone story, but Harris decided to expand on the Hannibal character in a sequel with a new protagonist (a rookie woman instead of a seasoned man).
A great grim thriller for you to watch would be David Fincher's Seven. Another amazing detective story is Curtis Hanson's L.A. Confidential (which I can't recommend enough).
Dennis Farina was so good in everything always a favorite of mine
@@thunderstruck5484 You're very right. Loved him in Snatch, Get Shorty and even Paparazzi (the first film I took notice of him). Always a reliable presence.
parts of this were filmed in Atlanta; the prison is actually The High Museum of Art
And the hotel that Will stays at is the Marriott Marquis, which was also used in the Hunger Games movies, and is going to show up in the Loki show.
William Petersen - always great in whatever role he plays. TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A. (1985) is not to be missed. : D
My favorite role of William Dafoe.
@@moeloehoe Me I still have a soft spot for STREETS OF FIRE and FLIGHT OF THE INTRUDER. :D
I think what draws myself to serial killers and the stories of the demented is watching and recognizing a broken human object and hoping we can fix / save them before they succumb to their deepest inner demons.
We all have demons inside of us, but are able to overcome those feelings, because we were loved and nurtured by our family and friends.
But what if we were one of those people who were mentally and physically abused by the ones closest to us. How does that change the prism through which we see people and society as a whole. Manhunter and Silence of the Lambs allows us to see when it goes horribly wrong. Just some food for thought.
We all have neferious thoughts it just surprises me how well we all as humans keep them intact every day. For instance we all drive machines thats can obliterate us but we chose to follow the rules of the road. We all have choices and thats the scary part of life. We are in control of no one.
Absolute classic from visionary filmmaker Michael Mann which still has best portrayal of Hannibal Lecter in my opinion. Anthony Hopkins is a legendary actor no doubt, but I cannot take his cartoony Hannibal serious whatsoever. Brian Cox is the real deal in this movie :-)
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This Michael Mann ground breaking film started the "New" Serial Killer/Detective craze of the 80's and 90's...Dante Spinotti's cinematography was spectacular! This movie is the very reason William Peterson's career was launched into the CSI franchise on CBS.
Not "Michael Mann's cinematography was spectacular," but Dante Spinotti's cinematography was, He also photgraphed the second version, "Red Dragon."
@z669🔆Corrected...Thanks for the heads up!!!
After this you should go right to Red Dragon. The same exact movie but done differently and Anthony Hopkins is back with added bonuses, Edward Norton in the William L. Peterson role and Harvey Keitel as his boss. Also with Philip Seymour Hoffman and Ray Fiennes.
Before William L. Peterson did this, he starred in To Live And Die In LA. directed by William Friedkin (The French Connection, The Exorcist). LA also stars William Dafoe. Has one of the best car chases. Excellent movie
So glad that you guys liked the movie, it is overlooked alot. I liked the way you commented on the investigation and how it concentrated on it. We actually watched this in my Criminal Investigation class when I was taking Criminal Justice in college because of it. This is Red Dragon just named differently because they did have the rights to the name of the book. There is a Red Dragon movie, kind of a re-make of this with Ed Norton as Will Graham and of course Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal. Honestly I think this is better, but I think you guys should watch it.
As usual TBR SCHMIT analysis nailed this movie. In 1986 I use to work in a movie theatre where I had to see Manhunter everyday. It spooked the hell out of me, but end up buying the video then. Red Dragon is a remake of this as Vince Vaun's Psycho to the original.
Heat (1995) Collateral (2004) Miami Vice (2006)
Cop : God damn, what caliber is that gun?!
Detective Schmitt : MAJOR
For the 2002 film Red Dragon, they actually inserted additional scenes to include Lector more in the film. That includes the opening scenes, where Lector is at the opera, the dinner he hosts, Will coming to talk to him about the case he's on and Lector's attacking Will. It also includes the closing scene which hints to be taking place in Silence of the Lambs.
There’s no plan at the end, Will can no longer distinguish between the tooth fairy killing his next victim and Will himself being the killer, he had to stop it.
Song called in a Gadda da vida, from what I read, Michael Mann spent years corresponding with murderer Dennis Wayne Wallace, who was motivated by his obsession with the woman he barely knew and believes that the song was their song
Now you should watch the more recent adaptation of the same book, Red Dragon, with Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal again. The ending is completely different, so it won't feel like a straight remake.
I’m actually impressed by how Red Dragon was able to cast actors of equivalent stature - Joan Allen to Emily Watson, Dennis Farina to Harvey Keitel, William Petersen to Edward Norton are not downgrades. Regardless of how one feels about Brett Ratner not being in the same league as the legendary Michael Mann, that is a very strong cast with which to shepherd a remake.
Such an underrated film.
The probably reason why he leapt through the window rather than shoot is that the film makes a big deal of him acquiring and using Glaser safety slugs which were designed to cause massive soft tissue damage with a minimum of barrier penetration to be used indoors or in planes to reduce the chances of hitting something that you weren't aiming at. Michael Mann's work (see Heat, Miami Vice, and Collateral) tend to show a great attention to detail when it comes to firearms and the guy who provided the slugs in the film, Jim Zubiena, was a competitive shooter and firearms instructor who was famously in an episode of Miami Vice showing his extreme skill.
OMG, there is a reaction video to my all time favourite movie!
Silence of the Lambs is the Sequel of this,I saw this movie long before it.The Standout actor in this was Tom Noonan who played Dollarhyde. The Director Michael Man also did a outstanding job with this.
What makes Manhunter so great is, first it is a Michael Mann movie using his old style and filmmaking, Miami Vice handwriting all over it. Even the end credots song "Heartbeat" appears in a Miami Vice episode. Second it is about the characters and psychology, not just scares and effects. This is what sets Manhunter apart from "Red Dragon". If you compare the essential scene where Graham realizes that Dollarhyde has seen the tapes, compare how Manhunter handles that scene and how Red Dragon does it rather like a quick plot twist and not a major psychological dramatic turning point.