TLDR: Affliction is the best if you DO NOT need to support. If you DO NEED TO SUPPORT, then you'll do more damage as Destro. Niche's DPS Warlock Build Sheet - tinyurl.com/54wcpnew Warlock Discord(Best place on Azeroth) - discord.gg/8mrt6DE My Twitch - www.twitch.tv/CrixVibez My Discord - discord.gg/4jTNaZ48fb My Twitter - twitter.com/CrixVibez
@@zuggypoo I will say, it is VERY “warlock” to make you class worse via complaining about shit that isn’t a problem. The squeaky wheel gets the grease but the rest of the car gets ignored
I run sm/ruin and i also run a spare chest to have demonic tactics when i need to use shadow bolt volley. Really easy to swap when you have the item rack addon
@@dentastagmer right now Mark of Chaos shares slot with Shadowflame, so you can't Sflame. And you can Immo. Since you tell putting up Unstable Affliction(they both can't be up)
If you were to pick a spec to do open world solo/group content (things like dailies, level 60 quests) what would it be? It seems like affliction has a high ramp up time, so i am wondering if demo is just better for open world.
Haven't played demo personally but affl is just infinite health and mana and ability to pull multiple mobs while doing big damage in the open world. Very strong.
Isn't grimoire of synergy better for demo since it also buffs pet damage unlike shadow and flame? Or is the pet damage such a small portion where it doesnt matter?
I play lock tank and imo, not much has changed since p3… some rune spots got swapped around which helps but thats about it. Think you can get pretty far with p3 vids
I've found imp isn't really viable in MC, even in support spec, and if you have to summon it again it's going to die instantly as it respawns with half health. I just use felhunter for the whole raid.
It def can be an issue. I had a raid two days ago as Destro Support and Imp only died to I think 1-2 fights and that was only because I moved him back to me and he got hit. Typically if you park your imp away from you, you'll be fine. But yeah for sure annoying
Click this link, then click the spec you want. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSISr_TcxTp4id35EELbBJ6pnuT5mmXtaEsGKSJZf5yk5FuL0sPgVOL0ESiU82Y3wYQi0iA8872pJAC/pubhtml#
My fellow fel enjoyers .. I hav huge problem with my demon .. in raid it keeps dying like on half of boss n also trash encounters. Tried to position it somehow, but it mostly did not help. Also bosses like Kazzak n Rag is targeting it with their spells. I think there is not 90 % aoe reduc for them as it used to be. Maybe im just noob, but has anyone same problem?
Some enemy abilities are not categorized correctly, so pet 90% avoidance is not functioning on them. The fix for it is complicated and unlikely to happen before P5. If you are playing a destro support build, I suggest you try 4/5 Fel Stamina with Fel Domination and Master Summoner as shown in the video. It'll help the pet survive better and be faster to resummon if it dies. If you are playing an affliction build, you can roll the dice and try to get damage out of the imp before it dies and end up with more damage done than with a pet like felhunter/voidwalker. Or you can use the Demonology build in this video for a beefy Felguard that should survive most situations. The demonology build is a bit lower dps, but not that far behind.
I would watch this if the warlock discord wasn’t responsible for whatever the hell we are now. All 3 specs viable, sure, all 3 taken, definitely no. You’re support, you buff mages, your dps is irrelevant.
We were not responsible for this. We asked for Pact to be made baseline, and we asked for MoC to be moved to boots, but we did not ask for getting stuck with a reworked and overpowered Shadowflame. We asked for the old version back. Devs said pact couldn't be changed and Shadowflame couldn't be reverted. We had it all balanced nicely but if you don't get all the changes, something is bound to be a problem and MoC/Shadowflame is a huge problem. We have to deal with the aftermath of their decisions. It's not up to us.
@@Maxvla the problem is not being able to be aff or use shadowflame. The problem is high end raids want you as support, even so far as going to prevent you from getting hit cap to give more power. I’m in the 4th ranked guild on wild growth. 99 parser phase 3, 60 parser phase 4 because I do 0 damage. They should have petitioned to REMOVE pact not make it baseline. I want to be brought for dps, not to make the mages dps better
@@ToHonorKnowledge Aff was able to bring support in phase 3, but shadowflame means they can't, so destro has to. Pact going baseline would mean you would bring pact and not cause yourself any dps loss. If we removed pact entirely then all casters would be in an even worse position than they are now. So yes we tried to fix this before it was a problem but we were denied. I am currently working on trying to fix it again for phase 5, we'll see if a different approach is acceptable to them.
@@Maxvla pacts makes you a funnel for SP gear, it lowers your personal dps by a ton. No one who rolled warlock in phase one of sod was excited to make mages gods. Demonic pact was removed from the game for a reason, along with the concept of support lock, because it’s bad and no one enjoys it. They can add spell damage to a WB for caster dps if they want to
TLDR: Affliction is the best if you DO NOT need to support. If you DO NEED TO SUPPORT, then you'll do more damage as Destro.
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Knock Knock, who's there? Me again, still waiting on the Meta Lock Tank Video :D
Clear and straight to the point! Support locks rise up! Edit: Give more Hit %
Just getting back into SoD haven’t played since December 2023 so this is really helpful.
Can't wait for that P5 lock vid! #fixsupportrunesforlocks
needed this, never played warlock until SoD and was a little lost
@@zuggypoo it’s the least played class for a reason, crix being one of those reasons, just sayin
@@ToHonorKnowledge ahaha good one bro..
@@zuggypoo I will say, it is VERY “warlock” to make you class worse via complaining about shit that isn’t a problem. The squeaky wheel gets the grease but the rest of the car gets ignored
Any tank lock videos coming out soon for P4?
I’m still baffled by the shoutout to the warlock discord. “Yo big ups to the people who made us one of the least played classes” like what lmao
I hate being stuck as support
can we get a guide for phase 5 crix? thanks
Big Guide!
Thanks G
Finally!!!
I run sm/ruin and i also run a spare chest to have demonic tactics when i need to use shadow bolt volley. Really easy to swap when you have the item rack addon
Also dotting corruption with everlasting corruption before i spam SBV on the 2 big cleave bosses
Isn't Demonic Embrace be a dps loss now that we get SP from spirit?
The dps loss is tiny (5-10 dps) compared to gaining 15% health, particularly for progression.
As affliction support; should you use immolate Instead of shadowflame or just skip it?
@@dentastagmer right now Mark of Chaos shares slot with Shadowflame, so you can't Sflame. And you can Immo. Since you tell putting up Unstable Affliction(they both can't be up)
crix is the goat! I put all of SALT - Lonewolf US onto your content
If you were to pick a spec to do open world solo/group content (things like dailies, level 60 quests) what would it be? It seems like affliction has a high ramp up time, so i am wondering if demo is just better for open world.
Haven't played demo personally but affl is just infinite health and mana and ability to pull multiple mobs while doing big damage in the open world. Very strong.
Yeah, because of pact we have 2 locks. I switch between support 1 week and affi the next. Feels bad...
In the affliction spec, when you are using the cloak enchant that boost life drain, is the soul drain execute worth doing or is it loss in dps?
Slight dps loss. Better to keep doing normal rotation.
Isn't grimoire of synergy better for demo since it also buffs pet damage unlike shadow and flame? Or is the pet damage such a small portion where it doesnt matter?
uptime is lower and pet damage is a much smaller portion of your overall damage.
Thx alot for this < can U give a Rottation ? for Both Fire and afly and Fire support
I'm leveling a warlock tank now but, not seeing a lot of UA-cam videos for phase 4 tanks unfortunately.
I play lock tank and imo, not much has changed since p3… some rune spots got swapped around which helps but thats about it. Think you can get pretty far with p3 vids
@@Qwinss well if you would be so kind as to put together a build I'd appreciate it.
I've found imp isn't really viable in MC, even in support spec, and if you have to summon it again it's going to die instantly as it respawns with half health. I just use felhunter for the whole raid.
It def can be an issue. I had a raid two days ago as Destro Support and Imp only died to I think 1-2 fights and that was only because I moved him back to me and he got hit.
Typically if you park your imp away from you, you'll be fine. But yeah for sure annoying
Wow Sims only go up to lvl 60 where's the 70 and the talent tree is all jacked up I'm so lost
Click this link, then click the spec you want.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSISr_TcxTp4id35EELbBJ6pnuT5mmXtaEsGKSJZf5yk5FuL0sPgVOL0ESiU82Y3wYQi0iA8872pJAC/pubhtml#
My fellow fel enjoyers .. I hav huge problem with my demon .. in raid it keeps dying like on half of boss n also trash encounters. Tried to position it somehow, but it mostly did not help. Also bosses like Kazzak n Rag is targeting it with their spells. I think there is not 90 % aoe reduc for them as it used to be. Maybe im just noob, but has anyone same problem?
Some enemy abilities are not categorized correctly, so pet 90% avoidance is not functioning on them. The fix for it is complicated and unlikely to happen before P5. If you are playing a destro support build, I suggest you try 4/5 Fel Stamina with Fel Domination and Master Summoner as shown in the video. It'll help the pet survive better and be faster to resummon if it dies. If you are playing an affliction build, you can roll the dice and try to get damage out of the imp before it dies and end up with more damage done than with a pet like felhunter/voidwalker. Or you can use the Demonology build in this video for a beefy Felguard that should survive most situations. The demonology build is a bit lower dps, but not that far behind.
@@Maxvla nice, thanks for actually helpful answer .. fel enjoyers are good guys.
First! (I cheated)
I would watch this if the warlock discord wasn’t responsible for whatever the hell we are now. All 3 specs viable, sure, all 3 taken, definitely no. You’re support, you buff mages, your dps is irrelevant.
We were not responsible for this. We asked for Pact to be made baseline, and we asked for MoC to be moved to boots, but we did not ask for getting stuck with a reworked and overpowered Shadowflame. We asked for the old version back. Devs said pact couldn't be changed and Shadowflame couldn't be reverted. We had it all balanced nicely but if you don't get all the changes, something is bound to be a problem and MoC/Shadowflame is a huge problem. We have to deal with the aftermath of their decisions. It's not up to us.
@@Maxvla the problem is not being able to be aff or use shadowflame. The problem is high end raids want you as support, even so far as going to prevent you from getting hit cap to give more power. I’m in the 4th ranked guild on wild growth. 99 parser phase 3, 60 parser phase 4 because I do 0 damage. They should have petitioned to REMOVE pact not make it baseline. I want to be brought for dps, not to make the mages dps better
@@Maxvla but now I’m just cucked, I can either reroll holy pally or find a new guild to dps in.
@@ToHonorKnowledge Aff was able to bring support in phase 3, but shadowflame means they can't, so destro has to. Pact going baseline would mean you would bring pact and not cause yourself any dps loss. If we removed pact entirely then all casters would be in an even worse position than they are now. So yes we tried to fix this before it was a problem but we were denied. I am currently working on trying to fix it again for phase 5, we'll see if a different approach is acceptable to them.
@@Maxvla pacts makes you a funnel for SP gear, it lowers your personal dps by a ton. No one who rolled warlock in phase one of sod was excited to make mages gods. Demonic pact was removed from the game for a reason, along with the concept of support lock, because it’s bad and no one enjoys it. They can add spell damage to a WB for caster dps if they want to
Really bad guide, I need to create mine own
losing 5 percent spirit talent =dps loss gg
Tiny dps loss for big health gain.