It's an odd setup. The paramotor and harness are separate. The harness is hung properly to the paramotor but the left side paramotor shoulder strap (not the harness) was still tight and holding the paramotor tight against the left side of my back. I had already loosed the right side, so the right side was hanging properly by the harness at the moment when the twist happened. I was actually trying to loosen the lefthand paramotor shoulder strap at the beginning of the video. If I don't have the paramotor straps tight when I take off the paramotor just flops around everywhere and slams the back of your legs while running. I think even if I was trimmed neutral, It wouldn't have been so unstable before I had released the paramotor should straps.
Great decision to throw the reserve, it s looked that your left side harness hangpoint is higher than right, so you were tilted to the right, you didn't composite with right brake, so you got twisted. When you close to ground or you oscillate, grab your brakes and take control of flying. Check your harness. Do your hangtest. You were very lucky. I m glad you are ok.
Thanks. It was a major violation of complacency on my part. I shouldn't have been messing around trying to put my throttle hand glove without significant altitude, otherwise I would have throttled down the engine and tried to correct the twist for longer than a second and a half. I figured throwing my reserve and having a low speed uncontrolled crash landing would be best. I'm just glad my reserve deployed quickly and smoothly to make for a "nicer" crash landing.
Holy smoke. That looks terrifying. I imagine that you could have resolved the riser twist by easing off of the throttle, but it sounds like maybe the throttle was stuck at full power? Yikes. I'm glad that you are okay. I hope to learn more about what happened... hopefully your lesson will save others from a similar scenario. - Ben
Thanks. It wasn't too bad. I didn't panic or or anything, I was actually just frustrated for allowing the situation to occur. I added the ridiculous scream in just to be funny. I was in the middle of loosening my paramotor carrying straps (not my harness) and putting on my gloves so I had my throttle locked in at full throttle. If I had more altitude I would have killed the throttle and resolved the twist but I figured I was on for an uncontrolled landing no matter what because I was so low. I almost had this happen to me before and it looks like the common denominators are the chasecam, the trims pulled completely down coupled with full throttle. Without the chasecam, my glider is stable under those conditions but it's obvious now that the extra weight and drag on the glider puts me too far forward past the glider to the point of imbalance.
@@JustinPPG thanks for sharing this. Perhaps a combination of torque and improper hang point settings led to the twist. There are folks who are much more knowledgeable than me but, it would be interesting to hear from an experienced instructor who views the video.
Yes, I'd be very interested in their input as well. Maybe when I get my equipment sorted, I'll do some testing a few thousand feet up and see if I can sort out exactly how far ahead of my glider I get. I could film it in 360 and share that footage too.
@@JustinPPG that makes sense, my buddy had the same fresh breeze. The soft J bars seem sketchy. I've seen multiple people on that unit get sideways but never created a twist like you.
Yes, I think if the backpack straps for the paramotor are too tight, you still hold the paramotor tight directly on your back instead of the paramotor hanging from the wing like it's supposed to and you simply just sitting in the harness. No doubt this is part of the reason why my glider was unstable. I can get a different harness and some accessories that would connect directly to the paramotor, but they want crazy money for it.
@@JustinPPG yea, they want crazy money for harbor freight quality 🤣. My friend now has his mounted to a trike. It works better but still has torque steer
Absolutely! I was pretty irritated with myself initially for throwing my reserve so quickly without doing more to fix my orientation first but I finally admitted to myself that if I didnt throw it and I hit the ground backwards or without any glider control, I would have had a faster ground speed and rate of decent and it would have been a much more dangerous landing.
Wow😶 Looks like a good example of torque twist due to hangpoints to far forward
It's an odd setup. The paramotor and harness are separate. The harness is hung properly to the paramotor but the left side paramotor shoulder strap (not the harness) was still tight and holding the paramotor tight against the left side of my back. I had already loosed the right side, so the right side was hanging properly by the harness at the moment when the twist happened. I was actually trying to loosen the lefthand paramotor shoulder strap at the beginning of the video. If I don't have the paramotor straps tight when I take off the paramotor just flops around everywhere and slams the back of your legs while running. I think even if I was trimmed neutral, It wouldn't have been so unstable before I had released the paramotor should straps.
Great decision to throw the reserve, it s looked that your left side harness hangpoint is higher than right, so you were tilted to the right, you didn't composite with right brake, so you got twisted. When you close to ground or you oscillate, grab your brakes and take control of flying. Check your harness. Do your hangtest. You were very lucky. I m glad you are ok.
Thanks. It was a major violation of complacency on my part. I shouldn't have been messing around trying to put my throttle hand glove without significant altitude, otherwise I would have throttled down the engine and tried to correct the twist for longer than a second and a half. I figured throwing my reserve and having a low speed uncontrolled crash landing would be best. I'm just glad my reserve deployed quickly and smoothly to make for a "nicer" crash landing.
Any landing you walk away from is a good landing. 👍
Holy smoke. That looks terrifying. I imagine that you could have resolved the riser twist by easing off of the throttle, but it sounds like maybe the throttle was stuck at full power? Yikes. I'm glad that you are okay. I hope to learn more about what happened... hopefully your lesson will save others from a similar scenario. - Ben
Thanks. It wasn't too bad. I didn't panic or or anything, I was actually just frustrated for allowing the situation to occur. I added the ridiculous scream in just to be funny. I was in the middle of loosening my paramotor carrying straps (not my harness) and putting on my gloves so I had my throttle locked in at full throttle. If I had more altitude I would have killed the throttle and resolved the twist but I figured I was on for an uncontrolled landing no matter what because I was so low. I almost had this happen to me before and it looks like the common denominators are the chasecam, the trims pulled completely down coupled with full throttle. Without the chasecam, my glider is stable under those conditions but it's obvious now that the extra weight and drag on the glider puts me too far forward past the glider to the point of imbalance.
@@JustinPPG thanks for sharing this. Perhaps a combination of torque and improper hang point settings led to the twist. There are folks who are much more knowledgeable than me but, it would be interesting to hear from an experienced instructor who views the video.
Yes, I'd be very interested in their input as well. Maybe when I get my equipment sorted, I'll do some testing a few thousand feet up and see if I can sort out exactly how far ahead of my glider I get. I could film it in 360 and share that footage too.
Glad you you made out unscathed!
Thanks, me too.
What kind of motor and harness is this?
It's a fresh breeze simonini 122 with the wingman CB jettison harness and the wing is a 26m Ozone spyder 3.
@@JustinPPG that makes sense, my buddy had the same fresh breeze. The soft J bars seem sketchy. I've seen multiple people on that unit get sideways but never created a twist like you.
Yes, I think if the backpack straps for the paramotor are too tight, you still hold the paramotor tight directly on your back instead of the paramotor hanging from the wing like it's supposed to and you simply just sitting in the harness. No doubt this is part of the reason why my glider was unstable. I can get a different harness and some accessories that would connect directly to the paramotor, but they want crazy money for it.
@@JustinPPG yea, they want crazy money for harbor freight quality 🤣. My friend now has his mounted to a trike. It works better but still has torque steer
Atleast You’re okay. Live to fly another day.
Absolutely! I was pretty irritated with myself initially for throwing my reserve so quickly without doing more to fix my orientation first but I finally admitted to myself that if I didnt throw it and I hit the ground backwards or without any glider control, I would have had a faster ground speed and rate of decent and it would have been a much more dangerous landing.