Airgun Talk with Travis and Tyler (TNT AGD Episode 5)
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
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FRICKEN HILARIOUS! My wife now thinks I have totally lost it as I sit here and laugh till I cry at the name: BROCOCK! The Commander of the BROCOCK made me spit coffee out of my nose!
I totally forgot we discussed this, and I about did the same!
Sorry this is the last episode. I've really enjoyed the series. As you know, laughing is contagious and so today was very entertaining as well. Thank you for the videos guys.
Episode need to be longer. GREAT job guys 👍
You guys need to do another series with guest speakers
The best thing about the PCP stampede is that excellent springers are getting cheaper. I know that a Walther Parrus is not in any league with the precision and accuracy of regulated PCPs , but getting one for $170 in 22 is a great deal - the gun is German built quality, that although it’s not a 100 yard gun , it will hit small game at 20 to 40 yards and last many lifetimes of a PCP. Dependability and durability in the long run trumps super sophisticated rifles. MHO. Very good work gentlemen.
Two fairly well known people in the airgun industry with different perspectives and personalities discussing airguns and the airgun industry. It produces one of the most entertaining airgun general discussions ever. Please keep them coming.
Osage 74 totally agree bud. I hope they make more and this is not the end of these videos.
Played airsoft about 15 years ago cant believe how big it is now. Thinking bout getting back into it.
I just bought a BSA R10 from Pyramid Air. With COVID 19 I thought business would be slow. But Pyramid Air is 5 days behind in shipping. Amazing times! Thanks guys for another great video. God bless you. 😎😎😎
Just my 5 cents. I wouldn’t buy Chinese gun. And I don’t mean to get political but considering the current global situation, I do not want my money going to that region of the world if you know what I mean. My heart is with FX... just can’t beat the quality and value for the features. But, there is RAW, and Benjamin is putting out beautiful stuff too. So... American made Marauder was my firs PCP....and still my go to every day rifle and it makes me smile every time I use it!
Great talk, awesome content guys! Love it!
Ok I already commented but a gamo magnum shooting GTOs is a great combo that'll float just below transonic and do .8 inch groups all day long.
Great content!
Funny ending too!
Good video guys
I have the Walther Terrus .22 strange name but a good air rifle!
So do I, mine's in .177 and it IS a great break barrel rifle.
Had me laughing my freaking A** off!!!!! I needed that. 👍🇺🇸✌😂🤣😅🤣😂
Oh my god .....funny!
I enjoy the series, please keep it going😄!
I thought it was hilarious great job guys
"Would they even buy a thousand dollar Chinese rifle?"
Beeman, who has been making progressively more expensive Chinese guns for three years in a row *shuffles away into the shadows
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.....🤩🤩🤩
Great episode 😂😂 how about considering an episode about russian and czech airguns with the cz barrels comparing to some daystate and fx airguns, that would be so interesting. Greetings from egypt. 🦅
😂😂😂😂😂
Well. That Commander did not come as a surprise..
Thanks Tyler and Travis. TNT, was a fantastic series and enjoyable, and knowledgeable. I would say I can't wait until you do it again. But seeing how Travis and some others have been letgo. Because of the restructuring of airgun Depot that's most likely not going to happen 😭😭😭. GOODBYE TRAVIS YOU WILL BE MISSED. I'm not privy to who else has been let go. But goodbye and good luck to you also. You will be missed too.
You're saying the British are more regal? Go to the AirgunGearShow and check out his video on a Brocock airgun
Overall they are......That's what he meant.
We are going to miss these get-togethers when there gone. The Air Venturi Avenger/Nova Vista Liberty MK2 is going to change things I believe. I have 2 Liberty’s that out shoot my FXs out to 75 yards and that is a real kick in my pants considering that 99.5% of my shots are within that distance. Even my Gauntlet isn’t a slouch at 75 yards but not as good as my Liberty’s. Granted I tuned and polished these Liberty’s but not a lot either. My FXs are as good as they will ever get...(until an improvement part comes out that we have to buy)...and spent a lot of time fine tuning them and yet even more cash. 1 is a Crown and the other is a Dreamline so was it really worth the money in the end. The Liberty’s are NOT as high of standard, triggers not match but very good and adjustable, or are they in quality and precision of build but still good and they are more consistent, and more accurate and have put quite a few dollars in my pocket proving it. Maybe I hit the barrel/regulator lottery...TWICE...but still the facts are what they are and they are more fun to shoot, smooth action and feed, magazines easy to load and cheap to buy, not very pellet fussy, and much less stressful when it comes to scratches, nicks. The Avenger...I hope will have a wood option eventually...if as good as the Liberty???...yeah... I’m not going to be buying another high end for a while when these are doing it and doing well for a fraction of the cost and still letting me have the fun of tinkering and tuning without having to buy yet more stuff to reach their full potential or expand the platform for yet another option down the road yet again. LEGO guns in my mind are money pits that just keep getting more expensive and heavier as time passes. Almost if not all air gun blocks and components are CNC made which in of itself is precision made. Designs on the other hand is a different matter. But still, even a low end gun is a precision weapon. Fit, form, function are without question what I believe y’all mean when you said the feel of a 3000$ gun versus the feel of a 300$ gun and I get that but still we are being taken for a ride just a bit. I personally do not believe for a second there is 1000$ worth of parts, time and material in any of these guns. If the Chinese can put the money in the right places like the Liberty has and maybe the Avenger will...then there is no reason the other manufactures can’t do the same. A 3000$...Delta Wolf in mind here...is so full of themselves that they could even ask such a price for a damn pellet gun. Yep...no doubt it is next level state of the art without question. But is really worth 3000+$???To me the more complex something is the more shit there is to go wrong. “KISS” Keep It Simple Stupid! That gun may have a grand in it with all the tech and materials and labor and that’s a big maybe. It isn’t made with precious metals or anything like gold, silver or platinum. I just can’t see the price tag being justified to anyone other than the guy that says..” look what I have...it’s cool like me” don’t you wish you could afford one too? Do I want one...oh yeah, you bet your sweet ass I do. I would love to see what all the hype is about. For me, a big part of the fun of air gunning is the tinkering and improving what you have, getting the most out of it, at least for me it is and is an outlet for my creativity and ingenuity. These higher end guns simply cost way too much to do that without the fear and concern that comes from possibly damaging a 1000-2000$ gun versus a 300$ gun. I get priceless value from the tinkering and modifying and not for power but smoothness, efficiency, accuracy, and sometimes appearance too. Power can be gotten out of them also but often at a cost of shot count and accuracy. On a different note but not...The Delta Wolf is exciting in a lot of ways to some but so out of reach in cost for most and there isn’t anything left to do that an app won’t do for you. To me this gun will be the end of days for guys like me. My SK-19 in .22 is so damn complicated that I dare not work on the rear of the system (1) because of the warranty (2)complexity and special tools required maybe (3) no information out on it yet and it is NOT a Huben which there is a lot of info out there on. Trigger group is completely different, on the opposite side, and way over complicated compared to the Hubens. This gun is in the shop yet again and not for trying to get power out of it either. This gun has never went over 947 FPS with anything from 15.4-22 grain pellets or FX Slugs. Not a power junkie. It just likes to stop shooting??? Go figure. Only 5-6000 rounds and the AOA shop gun in.25 has well over 10,000+ with no issues??? Yeah it’s awesome and fun when it’s working and really accurate but not as accurate as the Liberty’s of the FXs either..close but not as. The Avenger I think may change things. I hope it forces the cost down for those who want a high end gun that’s tuned out of the box and don’t want to or know how to tinker. But some of these lower priced tunable tinker guns will always find a home with me and many others that see the real value and not a price tag of value. Sorry for the long read. Lockdown has me at my wits end and could use a tinker gun right now. And YES BROCOCK!!! Really!!! Yeah they really need to change that and I would really love to know why they chose that name too... thanks for the laugh guys we all needed it right now. Means a lot in these messed up times dealing with this damn CCP virus. Thanks again and stay safe and well guys.
Well said.....I completely agree. I have 4 Hatsans and I love them. Dissambled them to smooth out, regulate, tune, and paint. I did purchase a Weihrauch 98 in .22cal for my "Grab & Go" rifle around the house and property. I spent more on my Springer than on my PCPs! Ha! I knew I would be shooting it far more due to its simplicity and ease of use. No reg. pressure to look after. Just load and shoot. So, I went German quality....I am kind of looking and watching the FX Dreamline platform as I do need to start utilizing slugs for my farther shots out here in farm fields winds...The B.C. of slugs is the draw.......If I choose to run an FX it would solely be for the barrels and power plenum options & adjustability. I sure as hell am not going to spend 1800+ on an ugly, "Hey look at me" Impact. I'm a traditional kind of guy so I would be looking at the Dreamline Classic. That being said, those decisions I have made as an Air Gun consumer have been researched and slowly made due to not wanting to waste nor be taken for $$ by an overpriced product to pad pockets of greedy old men. We'll see what the future holds!
Are Avengers available? By whom?
I'm in Florida
Love my 2 Libertys, one plastic & one wood stock
Stedy One Avengers are being sold by AGD I believe and they are supposed to be available April 15. 2020 but with this CCP virus crap who knows. Either AGD or PYA is going to sale them...maybe both.
Cornfields- Crosshairs thanks. Depending on the power output of your springer...the FX Hybrids are as you probably already know 22 grains and NSA is making slugs in the 17.5 grain size I believe. If your springer is in .177 there aren’t.177 slugs out there that maybe light weight enough for your gun. eBay has a really good selection from independent makers. Stephen from Air Velocity Sport or AVS make some really wicked accurate slugs for my Liberty’s and down to 18 grain at one time maybe still.
@@heathhalfhill6867 My springer is in the 16-16.5 ftlbs neighborhood. I have seen Griffen Slugs being utilized by a handful of shooters lately. They have a great selection and varing light weights.......also make .177cal. for those who are shooting small game at distance. More feather than fur around here for me as I might have decimated what once was a Red Squirrel convention! They really felt the accuracy of a 14.66 FTT out of a Weihrauch. It took about 2 years to not see any for a bit. They were everywhere as I have 9 very large and old Black Walnut trees as natural feeders....Go figure....Ha! I returned them to the ecosystem for the creatures of the night to come and get......and boy they do!
Will both of you stand up in front of my Commander @ 100 yards 🤣
Well that escalated quickly....
@@tylerpatner6591 Not meant to be offensive, Stay Safe. Best wishes from Northern Ireland. By the way any new info on the Delta Wolf would be much appreciated.
@@derektodd4126 All good man. In general, I prefer to never find myself in front of a Brocock...let alone the commander!
On the Delta Wolf, I know as much (or less) than you know. We do not sell Daystate. I can tell you if will be very expensive LOL
I think high end is in the eye of the buyer..the Benjamin Bulldog..high end for them,or Seneca and sam yang... They could be considered high end korean air guns.. depending on model they can shoot multiple ammo with decent accuracy and power wheel that any hunter could fall in love with.. Some companies use almost the same identical workings in various price levels just by using a different stock and a couple tweaks like the hatsan flash QE at $289 and the flash pup for $399 and well below high end price(yes,the cocking linkage is different adding cost) but really its the same thing styled different.. To me,really high end are the anschutz and hammerli competition rifles and pistols that are strictly target not for hunting or plinking..
Well, why do we have to pay as much for an air gun as we do for a real gun? An air gun can be used for hunting. But when you compare the power, there is really no comparison.
And distance!! NO COMPARISON! I do love airguns though.....soooooo quiet.
It's the mechanics. An airgun is the source of a round's propellant whereas a firearm's is in the bullet.
According to this economy the high end air gun companys better be making some changes ,,when the economy gos all high end stuff gos with it,,,lol, great video
Why were me and my wife only shipped one box of rounds out of a $1700 order
Fast coment boro
Due to market competition so call high end guns will get lower price and more features
Most guitars are made in Asian countries and are owned and managed by the owners. The quality is just as good as the USA because of automated manufacturing. That is how precision is controlled.
1 topic Daystate it is more and more expensive each passing day. A 30% increase here in Europe... almost 3K euros The last topic was perfect to be discussed about THC effects AHAHAH
For that kind of money, does Daystate even have ONE SINGLE MODEL that will shoot 950 fps or higher for shooting slugs? Not to my knowledge. I would never pay those prices for a pellet-only rifle.
People should realize quality justified the price,buy cheap get cheap .
those Impacts though...waited a month for mine. lovin it! FX makes all their stuff in house & as a diver, ALL my gear is made in Sweden because of the quality workmanship.
not a fanboy because this is my first pcp rifle but i researched a lot of guns. in fact the Hatsan Blitz was my first choice...until i found FX 🇺🇸🤘😎
ps. 870-920 fps with slugs/pellets is good enough for me (shootin a .30 cal). i’m all in for the interchangeable nature as apposed to buyin a whole new gun...and broooo...COCK...
13:47 LMAO ... That could be a new gun name in itself 😂🤪
Audial is a word
Amen! This just proves that while Travis is better read than I am, my vocabulary is superior!
@@tylerpatner6591 Lol
I agree that the velocity wars need to chill. I want it to hit where I aim. I also agree that there needs to be more attention to promoting the sport, but not to the point where anti gunners start to pay attention.
Marc pipistrello far as the promotion part of your comment. I'm hoping that's the reason for them to bring back Travis. After the restructuring of air gun Depot.
skinny Mitch pettengill I guess I’m out of the loop. What restructuring?
Marc pipistrello . Your in the loop now. I guess Until now the cat hasn't been let out of the bag. I thought it was public knowledge. Ooops
The only time anti-gunners pay attention is when gun owners do stupid shit with their guns.......Be responsible and don't do dumb shit with your guns that bring attention and it will be fine. Gun owners shoot themselves literally and figuratively.
Is that the name of Ekinoks that made that never ever nobody made any revue about that gun? True, the way its spelled may be found weird but in fact it may be the way it is in turkish.
It is, but there's no reason not to name the gun the Equinox for the US market
Are these people even open. Spent almost an hour waiting on the phone to place an order. Guess they don't seem to want any sales.
Had one of them... A gamo.... 1650 fps... I hated it... Sold it!
Fantastic video!! Teresa and I loved it 🙂.... You guys hot it in the mail with the speed crap and talking about how crossman is really building crap and charging to much for all China made parts... Any American company needs to make it's own parts and have some pride.. we went down that pipe and now own Brocock bantom sniper hrs,, sweet guns .. thanks guys
I think the Name Kevin is funnier than BroCock
Where are you guys located?
Captain brocock LOL
how can i order airgun from philippines?
My only disappointment is that it wasn’t longer
I would abolish the foot pound war. IMHO it will soon bring in the government regulators and depending on the level of restrictions will correspondingly cripple the airgun market and airgunning as a whole
I mean.... I don't think they'll be able to do much in the way of restrictions while they still have firearms around.... or even want to waste the time.
@@fomocowboy Airguns are not firearms and are illegal in Michigan for example.
@@adambilge2834 they're ILLEGAL? Even to possess?
Slave labor / socialist state airguns/ U.S. Labor prices ? 500-1200- 2000.
Hardly anyone says 'bro' in the Uk, other than a few prepubescent 8 year olds. That's probably why folk here don't care about Brocock.
enjoyed you guys, sorry to see you go, but travis you put a lot of hair spray in your hair... the wind didn't phase it, it never moved while you fell (allegedly) through the air... lol... I know you have to look good for the camera
Worst airgun name? Did anyone say ShinSung "Career" 707? It has been proposed that the Korean manufacturing representative was asked the name of the gun and thought he was being asked where it is made. He said Korea and it was taken for Career. That used to be the theory.
I WANT TO DONATE A .30
I call these F.P.S. wars,..simply childishness. It's like the other industries , Companies who made chainsaws,.then the 'wars'' started here too,..my saw is 3 H.P.,..well mine is 4,..ha, that's nothing mine if 6 HP etc.etc. same with small engines Briggs & Stratton used to sell their engines by Horse Power size,..then others jumped on that 'band wagon' too,..then somebody at sea level discovered that his engine was 'more powerful' than his buddy who lived at Colorado's elevation, and then his X horse power engine couldn't perform as well.
Having said all that it's time for the Air Gun Industry to smartened up and got more realistic with their advertised F.P.S. ratings.
Pretty soon Governments agencies are going to say,.".Hey, what;'s going on here with those 'BB guns" we'd better check into this" ..now, here comes a tonne of regulations all over again!
Good video guys,.thanks for the 18 minutes of enjoyment.
Fraud
I guess brocock is not as bad as having a president called Donald Trump..
Why do you need to hate on Trump here ?
🇺🇸Love Trump
That really makes no sense dude.