10 Hard Truths of MARATHON Running When Over 35

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  • @fatrunner
    @fatrunner 2 роки тому +125

    I started running 2 years ago at the age of 39 after being a couch potato most of my life. I'm training for my second marathon at the moment. If I have a couple of beers in the evening, I'll notice it on my run the next day. I dont mind though, I'm still fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s!!

    • @50Something
      @50Something 2 роки тому +2

      I have been aware of that for the two years that I've been running, it really is a great way to scrap my Sunday long runs🤣.

    • @fatrunner
      @fatrunner 2 роки тому +3

      @@50Something this is why I do my long runs on Friday mornings. 😂

    • @50Something
      @50Something 2 роки тому +2

      @@fatrunner I had a single oatmeal Stout at midnight after work and my 15k this morning was effortless. Two however, and I'll regret it the next day.

    • @SOUSOU_82
      @SOUSOU_82 2 роки тому +2

      Nice man, i am the same like you
      39 years fitter And stronger then ever
      Cardio and strength training

    • @HS-fm9kv
      @HS-fm9kv 2 роки тому +2

      Similar experience although not so much couch potato but had propensity to go out on Friday night and finish partying sometime on Sunday evening….
      Started running mid 40s, and runs - long or short- are pretty much incompatible with alcohol….
      Long run on Saturday and rest(ish) day on Sunday, leaving Saturday free to enjoy a night out.

  • @scottmcconnell6949
    @scottmcconnell6949 2 роки тому +93

    Started running at 40, just turned 50. I’ve run 20 marathons in 10 years, the last 3 in 2:55, 2:56, 2:56. In 12 weeks I’m going back to back with Berlin and London. You’re only as old as you feel, age has no barriers if you put your mind to it and train smartly.

  • @LilacRunner267
    @LilacRunner267 Рік тому +4

    Thank you Ben. Started running late in life, about 40 something if I recall correctly. I am now 59 and still run 3 or 4 times per week , 10km per session on average. Finished over 50 half marathons and 20 marathons too date. 10km races to many too mention. A few 100km races thrown in for good measure too. I thought I knew it all, until I subscribed to your channel. Not only are your videos highly informative, useful, packed with wonderful advice , and sometimes a splash of humour, they are MOTIVATIONAL, INSPIRING, DOWN TO EARTH, WHOLESOME DOLLOPS OF SHEER AWESOMENESS. Thank you Ben and Mary. May the Running Gods look down favourably on us All.

  • @simondeboer6035
    @simondeboer6035 2 роки тому +44

    "never trust a fart past mile 20" -- Good advice. I think as runners we shouldn't shy away from discussion of bowel and bladder. A large part of my race plan revolves around managing the biology. Intake and output.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому +5

      Ha ha always, Simon! Might as well share it all 😂

    • @user-nj1zu2nf1x
      @user-nj1zu2nf1x 2 роки тому +1

      Great tip but great, now I'm scared to death I'm going to poop myself lol

    • @nivaldolemos5280
      @nivaldolemos5280 2 роки тому

      As half-marathoner-level type guy, I feel relieved... for now.

    • @mjowsey
      @mjowsey Рік тому

      I saw a woman who'd suffered from that at the end of parkrun!

    • @burn_that_butter6829
      @burn_that_butter6829 Рік тому

      for me past 3 miles

  • @Mercury688
    @Mercury688 Рік тому +1

    I felt the words “a stiff breeze will send me into a spasm” deeply.

  • @tworunningbrooms
    @tworunningbrooms 2 роки тому +16

    Dawn from this channel ran a 2:56 as a 42-year-old female. Plenty of strength and conditioning supported that along with double runs and high mileage. 80 plus miles per week at peak.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому +6

      Crikey!! I’ve never done an 80 mile week in my life. Haven’t even done 80km!! Fair play 💪🏼

  • @stevestarr9769
    @stevestarr9769 2 роки тому +14

    Good morning (or afternoon) guys. I ran my first marathon in 1980, when I was 19. The last marathon I ran was Philadelphia in 2001, when I was 40. I'm going to be 61 a month from today, and for some psycho reason I'm thinking I'd like to qualify for Boston in my age group; crazy tough goal, but who knows. This running/life thing has been an interesting journey for me for the last 45 years.
    Ben, you mentioned partying the night before a long run. Story: In 1985 (I was 24 at the time) I was training for the NYC Marathon, and about a month before the race my girlfriend's parents had their 25th wedding anniversary--BIG party, on a Saturday. I started drinking rum & Cokes at about 5 pm, and drank about 27 rum & Cokes by 1 a.m. that night. I barfed about 10 times between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m., at least. I got up at around around 6:30, and drove to NYC to do my long run. I did 12 miles, PLUS a 10K race that morning in Central Park. 18 miles. Needless to say, I was sick for a week...and i don't think I've had a single rum & Coke since then.
    Oh, to be young and utterly crazy.

  • @lesabegley2690
    @lesabegley2690 2 роки тому +8

    Love your channel! I ran my first marathon in 2018 at the age of 40, and this year at 44 tackled my first ultramarathon. Listen to and take care of your body first and foremost, and it will show up for you on race day!

  • @alfromtx245
    @alfromtx245 2 роки тому +11

    I took up running at age 45 and did my first marathon at 46. It was a train wreck. The weather was really cool during the last month of training, but was unseasonably (and unexpectedly) hot the day of the race. So I dehydrated. No good. I did my second marathon at age 47 and it was awesome. I actually wore extra layers during training to prepare for the worst, and it paid off. You're right about the race becoming harder around mile 22. Thankfully, I paced it like I should have and the first 22 miles were enjoyable. Though it became more difficult at this point, I was able to push through and never had to slow down. Now I'm 49 and getting the itch to do another one!

  • @natalie-obrien
    @natalie-obrien 2 роки тому +18

    Thanks for this advice . I am 45 and new to running and I plan to run a 1/2 Marathon before the end of this year and maybe a full one next year😁

    • @chch242
      @chch242 2 роки тому +2

      I started at 45 too. First year the goal was 10k, second year a half marathon, third year a full marathon. All done, very happy. Keep on running and every goal will be fulfilled. I'm 47 now.

    • @athoughtortwo
      @athoughtortwo 2 роки тому +3

      Wonderful goal! I’m 48 and for my NY resolution in January I had the same goal! I just finished my 4th half and will do a 5th with a couple friend I’ve made. I’m planning my first fill for March. Feeling fabulously fit and healthy, loving my legs, and am feeling ready to face my 50’s!!! Running is a great club to be a part of! 🎉

  • @irawhitlock1084
    @irawhitlock1084 2 роки тому +11

    🤣 last tip got me! This was really helpful info. About to turn 49, started running 2 years ago, and have always been somewhat of an athletic runt. I'm convinced that humble and patient consistency is what has kept me in the game.

    • @dangreenhithe1407
      @dangreenhithe1407 2 роки тому

      I'm 47 and just beginning the journey. I'm glad I'm not the only one starting late. 😊
      Thanks for the tips Ben and Mary.

  • @Joe_Souza
    @Joe_Souza 2 роки тому +9

    Ben and Mary, love the channel. I’m 54 and started running when COVID started. I’ve peaked with the running and found I can’t get over 1/2 marathon without strength training. I appreciate your encouragement and will be weary of farts in my first marathon after mile 20 😂.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Ha ha nice work, Joseph! Keep at it as well. And yes, never trust that you can squeak one out 😂😂

    • @ROFusion
      @ROFusion 2 роки тому

      @Joseph Souza, have you considered taking an anti-diarrhea pill before races (in order to temporarily induce constipation)? That's what I do to avoid being weary of those farts.
      After your pre-race warmup, you go to the bathroom and empty your bowels. Then you take a pill so that anything (remaining in your bowels) that gets loosened up during the actual race will be trapped inside you and converted to gas.

  • @dorothygraham6183
    @dorothygraham6183 2 роки тому +6

    I am 67 years old lady and running Comrades in august, just did my last long run at 65k on Sunday and boy are my legs sore. We have a few other long runs to do over the next 6 weeks so hopefully stay injury free.

    • @Kelly_Ben
      @Kelly_Ben 2 роки тому +1

      Go get it!!! That's incredible training. Let us know how it goes!!

    • @maggie0285
      @maggie0285 2 роки тому

      WOW!! Good for you lady!! I have seen that race on UA-cam and it looks intense!

  • @jamesbuchan7970
    @jamesbuchan7970 2 роки тому +6

    Some great point thanks, started running at 47, 3 years ago, and yep no question I can't train more than 3 or 4 times a week, and have to listen to my body or start to get the sore ham, dodgy foot painful knee cropping up.
    Listening to my body and I can avoid it, I'm not in my 20s any more, can't train as hard or as long as I want but this 50 year old body has partied hard for a long time time and although looked after the old injuries are always there just ready to bit.
    But as longs I can still beat the kids in speed and distance I'm happy with my 21 min 5km and regular 13 km runs 😁

  • @balrajsingh776
    @balrajsingh776 2 роки тому +7

    This has arrived at the perfect time! Turned 37 last week, and preparing to run in the Athens Marathon in November! Definitely need up my strength and conditioning routine.

    • @dusankuzmanovic5987
      @dusankuzmanovic5987 2 роки тому +1

      C-ya in Athens!

    • @balrajsingh776
      @balrajsingh776 2 роки тому +1

      @@dusankuzmanovic5987 good luck bro 😎 this will be marathon no. 15 for me, but will be the most difficult. For my previous ones, I have started to take Magnesium supplements (to help avoid cramping)… I will be taking them again for the training plan for Athens.

  • @paulhanson1600
    @paulhanson1600 10 місяців тому

    I'm a pretty new runner and managed my first marathon London last April aged 48. It was pretty amazing to do and to hit my 3:50 target. Lots of videos helped me get ready, it was tough in the last quarter but I was very motivated to endure!

  • @msmaria5039
    @msmaria5039 2 роки тому +10

    I did my first marathon recently at age 42. It took me 8 and a half hours but I finished it. I am using that experience to do better. My two main takeaways.
    Wear bigger shoes.
    Pick a flatter marathon.

  • @jeffreyvasilatos2349
    @jeffreyvasilatos2349 Рік тому

    Really been enjoying your UA-cams. I started running at age 51 and am scheduled to run marathons 10 & 11. Worked my way from a 12:00 pace to a solid 9:00 on my way to hopefully shave more time and qualify for Boston. Anyway, yes on the painful side of training and then running the marathon. This is why I've liked your channel. Very informative and something for everyone t take away.

  • @danielneacy3568
    @danielneacy3568 2 роки тому +4

    'Never trust a fart past mile 20' abdolute gold i will be robbing that one. Gr8 vid guys, will be defo taking on board some of this advise. As a 37 year old I find it hard to admit I'm in this post 35 year old club 😅

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому +2

      Ha ha thanks Daniel. To be fair I struggle to accept I’m past 24! That’s the age I want to be stuck at. Although Mary disagrees as I didn’t meet her until I was 27 😂

  • @matthiassventoest6800
    @matthiassventoest6800 2 роки тому +1

    that is so true about the nutrition and hydration.., I was pretty on point for my first 15 or so miles.., but after that I started to forget about my nutrition.. I was still pretty good on hydration.. but my mind was wandering to say the least, and I was in no man’s land .., but I made it thru

  • @robinc.9845
    @robinc.9845 2 роки тому +3

    I`m 37 and started running one year ago. I did several Half`s and some 10K`s but will go for the Full Marathon next year, plan to do 2-3 Marathons a year. I lost 47 Kilos on that Journey and am fitter then i ever was, although i feel my age...in my knees, my body etc. Recovery is such an important thing. I can fully relate to that video!

  • @nrobertson33
    @nrobertson33 2 роки тому +4

    Great video, very good advice. I started running age 53 having not run since school and ran a 3.13 first marathon at age 55. I did this on three runs a week, no consecutive days so that recovery was good in between. Training consisted of a long run, a marathon pace tempo run at 7mins per mile, and 800m repeats at 3mins each with 3mins recovery. Start low volume add more each week, taper and go. No alcohol, plant based diet.

  • @DWNY358
    @DWNY358 2 роки тому +1

    Great timing, as a 62 year old training for both Berlin and NYC marathons this year. I am still training with people half my age in my running group, doing 2 speed sessions per week and Saturday long run, all with (so far anyway) no niggles, discomfort, or soreness whatsoever. I believe I can BQ at at least one of these races. As you mentioned, consistency is key, along with good nutrition and sleep. I also feel like variety of training is important- I mix up terrain, shoes, and workouts which I believe help keep injury at bay and keeps the training interesting.

  • @garyviall9607
    @garyviall9607 2 роки тому +2

    Ben! I needed to hear this. I'm 46 and start your half to full training plan next week for my first marathon in October. I think we all struggle to accept aging when we get to this point in life. Thanks for reminding me that it's ok to not be ok all the time and for the tools to deal with it.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Gary! It’s all good, I hope it helps in some small way. Aging is sadly an inevitability but we can at least do it with grace… or soil ourself. Either really 😂

    • @runningclueless
      @runningclueless 2 роки тому

      Me too

  • @8SideWinder8
    @8SideWinder8 2 роки тому +1

    Great video as usual...Mary dishing out some of the tips and advice is a great addition to your format. There was a lot that hit home in this video and fortunately my Marathon is a couple months away!

  • @scottsmum61
    @scottsmum61 2 роки тому +5

    As one of your (much) older subscribers this is one of the best ‘older’ videos I have seen (and there are a lot of videos aimed at us oldies just now). I am training for a middle distance triathlon and the longest event in 10 years and since a major op last year. My training started well but I soon discovered as the weekend run got longer I needed 2 days recovery not one. So I reduced to 2 runs a week and changed the Tuesday run to a S&C set instead. I listen to my body and take more recovery if needed and my long runs tend to be run/walk eg 18 mins run 2 minutes walk. This feels more manageable and I don’t slog my way round. I have bought into stretch & mobility and try to do 15 mins a day. It’s definitely a mindset change

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Awesome Tina! Listening to your body is so important rather than slugging on through 😊

  • @Bwebber99
    @Bwebber99 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the advice running my first marathon in a week and binge watching everything on marathons, this episode helpful.

  • @JamesMartin-gl8gg
    @JamesMartin-gl8gg 2 роки тому +1

    Yet again wise words Ben and Mary. You are both such wonderful role models.
    I know you're keeping me on the straight and narrow path.

  • @RuntotheMovies
    @RuntotheMovies 2 роки тому +1

    I went into this video with skepticism due to what seemed like a clickbait title. However, every point is spot on! I became a runner late in life (mid 30s) and for the first few years it was just injury after injury, etc. Until I started using my head (as in think and not run upside down by bouncing on my cranium) and training properly, changing my weightlifting routine, my nutrition, etc. I went from having a 4 hour marathon as a golden goal to easily averaging in the 3:30s. This spring I ran 4 marathons in the span of 5 weeks, and 4 of them were PRs. All that, in spite of the fact that I run way fewer miles than I did a few years ago. My 52nd marathon is next month and then, a few weeks later is my first 100K. Be smart about your training and you will have a great time on race day!

  • @SamsaraRevolves
    @SamsaraRevolves 2 роки тому +1

    I started distance running in earnest in my mid-30s but never managed to stay consistent for more than 6 months at a time due to overtraining or health issues. At 37, my goal now is to maintain consistency for at least a year, and I found that after just 5 months I was almost back to old shape and wound up signing up for a marathon as a stretch goal. I completed that marathon and have already signed up for another. Both the technical and philosophical mindsets that you and Mary promote in your channel have helped me embrace the habit, joy, and the lifestyle of healthy, consistent running rather than chasing metrics and burning out yet again. I thank you so much for that.

    • @sarah75833
      @sarah75833 2 роки тому

      I love consistency as a goal versus distance, pace, a race, etc. Consistency is king and if you prioritize it, everything else falls into place. Excellent mind set!

  • @adventurecats4816
    @adventurecats4816 2 роки тому +2

    I love your channel and sage advice. As. 60 year old grandma with hopes of a 50k next year, you're good at talking me back from damaging myself.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Ha ha happy to have helped in some small way, Deasal 😊

  • @JohnBirtchetSharpe
    @JohnBirtchetSharpe 2 роки тому +1

    'Do what works for you' is a very valid and often misunderstood statement. I am an early riser, early to bed person, who needs two rest days a week (so have to adjust any plan accordingly ). I am 53 and continue (and will hopefully always while I am around) to strive for improvement, it might not be time, it might be weight/muscle balance, it might be efficiency, (that is a magic target in itself and has many variables we can work on) or something else I can focus on. Thanks, for a great post.

  • @buffaloj0e
    @buffaloj0e 2 роки тому +2

    I wish my Grandad was still alive to ask for advice for running as I get older. I do know that he would be a strong advocate for more miles. During a 11 year span when he was 51-61 he ran 24 competitive marathons, 21 of those under 3:15 and 7 of those were under 3:00. His PB of 2:54:44 was run at age 59 and 9 months. He was disappointed to not run under 3 hrs as a 60 year old being within 40 seconds of the mark twice. 100 mile weeks was standard training for many years so anything is possible.
    Edit: I’ll add he wasn’t a marathon specialist during that period he ran a 50 mile race in 7:23, he broke multiple, state, age group records for 5000 and 10,000 on the track and was competitive in many other 5k, 10k and HM road races. FWIW the 3 ‘slow’ marathons were just under 3:25.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому +1

      Your grandad seems like a total inspiration and very much the type of man I aspire to be. You must be super proud 😊

  • @brooklynforever1990
    @brooklynforever1990 2 роки тому

    All facts! As I return to running my two areas of focus are strength training and consistency. Great video!

  • @jobanski
    @jobanski 2 роки тому +2

    The last pointer was something I needed to hear. 😜

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Ha ha good stuff! Hope it saves you some embarrassment 😂😂

  • @jos8192
    @jos8192 2 роки тому

    Thanks you two. Always an inspiration. Running is something we’re always learning from. Got a marathon pb at 55. By trying something new.
    Absolutely love your videos.

  • @jamiedalrymple3689
    @jamiedalrymple3689 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you
    I'm over 50 now and it's getting harder to produce my times.
    Will end up a lazy ultra runner very soon 🙂

  • @wunderlichdrive
    @wunderlichdrive 2 роки тому

    Last Spring at 55 I ran my best marathon time of 3:05. I contribute that to training for 6 years and building up to 115 km/week. But, I have to agree strongly with the advice of dedicating time to strength and conditioning, along with getting enough sleep. I would also emphasize using recovery days as recovery days. I have one day a week that I don't run at all, but I try to bike a bit. Then I have two recovery run days and I really take them easy. I do a 5:25 - 5:50 pace on those days. They help get the blood flowing in the muscles and stimulate recovery.

  • @jmanonmakes
    @jmanonmakes 2 роки тому +1

    I recently discovered your channel and am really enjoying it and learning so much. I’ve subscribed and am making my way through all your videos. Thanks so much for all you do.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Ahhh awesome! Thanks. Don’t go too far back though. Some ropey ones back there 😂

  • @barryalexander2909
    @barryalexander2909 2 роки тому +1

    At 28, I ran a marathon in 4 hours with no specific training (I was fit though). I'm 51 and training using the 80:20 programme. Had a setback and have had to drop back a few weeks. Back to it and have a 16 miler tomorrow.

  • @edwin5419
    @edwin5419 2 роки тому +2

    Fell apart a bit at the marathon on Sunday just gone. Main reason was taking gu every 5km instead of the 7km I did in training. Didn't hurl, but I wasn't far off from 18km in. Silly Edwin.

  • @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic
    @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic 2 роки тому

    I was 2 months shy of 37 years old in March 2020. 5'9" 168lbs or 12 stones and 2:39:40 in a windstorm. Going sub 2:35:00 late this year at 39 years old. Alcohol, I consume a ton of it year round.

  • @ckinsin
    @ckinsin 2 роки тому

    cheers to all of you grizzly old men and hard put women. it's a nice fight. runnnnnnnnning is fun. keep hitting that next mile.

  • @jennifermoran1561
    @jennifermoran1561 2 роки тому

    Just turned 50 mid July 2022! Just started running. I have BIG goals, and the patience to go with them!

  • @gavinebery5189
    @gavinebery5189 2 роки тому +1

    Very apt video for me being 39 and training for London. Had to bail on a run tonight with a sharp pain in my foot. Straight home to ice and rest before the weekend long run if my body allows it

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Oooh be careful, Gary! A few missed sessions better than a few weeks! Monitor that closely and good luck 😊

  • @josephgonzalez_
    @josephgonzalez_ 2 роки тому +1

    These feel like tips for beginners to intermediates. I’m 53, 75 miles a week, run every day (occasionally twice a day), a sub 75 min half and aiming for sub 2:40 at Berlin. I’ve become stronger and able to train these distances BECAUSE I’ve built my mileage up. Basically, you can’t generalise. All runners are different.

    • @michaeleury9746
      @michaeleury9746 2 роки тому

      :) yes, agree. I’m 56, run 120+k per week leading into marathons. Have run every day for 5 years. Ran 2:39 last December and 2:40 a few weeks ago.
      I’ve built to this over 7-8 years, do Pilates weekly and ensure the rhythm of my training allows my body to keep feeling good.
      Best wishes for Berlin, I’m entered but can’t make it now :(

    • @elmonir9134
      @elmonir9134 2 місяці тому

      Have you tried running a bit less, like 2 days off atleast a week? Maybe you will find out it actually improves your pace.

  • @JohnSmith-rx2uv
    @JohnSmith-rx2uv 2 роки тому

    Awesome video guys!

  • @BenIsRunning
    @BenIsRunning 2 роки тому +1

    This advice is priceless. Even for a young gun like me it’s great to hear your wisdom ;)

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Ha ha thanks Benny! Just be aware of top 10 😉😂

  • @AnOldManRunning
    @AnOldManRunning 2 роки тому

    Really nice style of getting great information across. Very much enjoyed. A bit late to the party but, have subscribed and looking forward to more

  • @ankitaggarwal028
    @ankitaggarwal028 2 роки тому

    I am 32. Starting Running. Loved your video.

  • @zzzzzzzzzzzq
    @zzzzzzzzzzzq 2 роки тому

    Great vid thanks for the tips, as always🏃‍♂️

  • @liamroche1473
    @liamroche1473 2 роки тому

    I see you have my pullups bar at 3:15! Handy for pushup variations too. (But mine is gathering dust at the moment...)

  • @alwood9071
    @alwood9071 2 роки тому

    I’m running my first marathon in October at 59 yo. I think the mind is writing checks the body can’t cash. I like the advice about not running too much. I think I fall into that category. Thanks for your videos. Keep them coming.

  • @sylvaindore3190
    @sylvaindore3190 2 роки тому

    Very good advice, thank you. I'm aiming London next year for my first marathon and I will absolutely follow your advice from this video. But at the end, like Mary said, it will HURT! LOL!

  • @KayGG2
    @KayGG2 2 роки тому

    Such wise and inspiring advice. Thanks guys! Keep up the great work

  • @2spoons
    @2spoons 2 роки тому +1

    Consistency is the key word totally agree with me ... don't drink alcohol Saturday night.... Long Run Sunday..!! (or even cut out the alcohol)
    Write down what you eat during the week.... you'll know as the week do by what food works for you.... and squats (with the bar is your key) if you want to cut down on injury - believe me I've gone with out and gone with out.... but noticed the S&C works!!

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому +1

      All very valuable advice, buddy. Thanks 😊

  • @staciemann6275
    @staciemann6275 2 роки тому

    Love the scatalogical humor - reminds me of the fun times raising my son when he was little. I would suggest never trusting a fart - the more people around you, the less trust! Of all the wonderful advice here, though, prioritizing recovery is so very important. It takes a conscious effort at first, but sets you up for great habits as the years keep ticking along.

  • @marcelsilva608
    @marcelsilva608 2 роки тому

    Hey buddy, you got me to subscribe on the last piece of advice. Priceless :)

  • @cmorrison5466
    @cmorrison5466 2 роки тому +3

    At age 60, Never trust a fart at any Distance. Period. 🤣
    Love that you address bodily functions because it does become a major problem during long runs if you're not prepared or have a plan (as Im learning).
    Thanks to your last video, I wasn't as embarrassed to go in the woods on my last trail run. Having brown paper towels (I glommed at the gas station loo) made it less embarrassing. It seemed more "natural" than leaving a glaring, white chunk of TP where X marks the spot. ☺️
    So what exactly do city-run Marathoners do when they have an accident during a race?

    • @edwin5419
      @edwin5419 2 роки тому

      I've not had an accident, but there are public toilets all over the place. Only becomes a problem if you're running in a new area without a phone

    • @andersonteo4879
      @andersonteo4879 2 роки тому +1

      @@edwin5419 yes, there are many toilets (mobile or permanent) en route a city Marathon. Problem is with tens of thousand runners, would you find a vacant loo at the crucial time? 😆

    • @edwin5419
      @edwin5419 2 роки тому +1

      @@andersonteo4879 I was talking about training, rather than racing. I've not run a marathon with more than 1,000 others, so I don't know

  • @ozziejed
    @ozziejed 2 роки тому +2

    First one at 41. Perhaps a second before 50!

  • @twold4this
    @twold4this 2 роки тому

    Great advice and *discussion*
    I'm a VM65-69, fortunate that I have *good genetics* 👍 which really helps. I started getting fit - stopped smoking/drinking and am now always between 2 and 3 stone lighter than I was then - I have run 100+ Marathons and I'm very grateful that I have a big gfa.
    However I am still RUBBISH at the fuelling/hydration *thing*. Up to 4 hours I can *get by* but anymore and I just want to stop, have a coffee and eat an ice-cream.

  • @nikp.7823
    @nikp.7823 2 роки тому

    Thanks for your great work here! Good marathon training info for the age groupers seems a real niche! I'm 56, started running again 3 years ago, now at 3:30h and 2nd marathon. Love your tips! It is so true that we need to better balance our training plans (made for the average 30y olds I believe) than those seemingly indistructable young folks.
    Ha! No trusting farts past 20k - so true and a great rule of thumb to remember 😜!

  • @liam2386
    @liam2386 2 роки тому +1

    as someone who has completed 35 and had never run before the age of 31... this is so true

  • @richybeattie
    @richybeattie 2 роки тому

    Good advice all around and amen to strength as a supplement, and I’d say probably replace a running session or 2.
    I’d add for first time marathon runners, have 4-6 months aerobic base before you train. It can be anything, but just doing parkrun every week builds a base, gets the body used to moving and gets you in the right mindset and by then you’ll know when is good in a busy week that training works. Having this before your training block is gold in my experience and will allow for lower volume and better quality which will suit the +35 runner.
    I’d finally add that unless you’re really serious, don’t have a time goal. Make your goal to be as fit as you can be on the day and run as fast as you can that the conditions and you’re training has provided

  • @lapins86
    @lapins86 2 роки тому

    I ran my first ever London Marathon in April 2006 1 month before I turned 19, (still a current lifetime best of 3.29.49) now at 36, October 2nd 2022, will be my 9th London Marathon and am aiming for as close to 3.45 as possible, I'm a member of Croydon Harriers athletics club, and I know I'm as fit as I almost was back then, and definitely the fittest of 30s!! and have been a Tee-total ally life, so I have that going for me!! #embracetheprocess #oldmanstrength

  • @Leeroy49
    @Leeroy49 2 роки тому

    I started my running journey with 35 (now 38) and I have raced 4 marathons. It is challenging and it solidifies my respect for everyone who does this every time.

    • @user-nj1zu2nf1x
      @user-nj1zu2nf1x 2 роки тому

      Doing my first next month at age 38. I've always run on and off, sports and did a half marathon a few years back but this is new territory. I had no idea how much went into it until I started training

  • @andriratnasari2648
    @andriratnasari2648 2 роки тому +1

    So true 🥰

  • @joshuaroque6514
    @joshuaroque6514 2 роки тому +2

    Oh gosh I turn 35 this August and my next marathon is September 11. I’m Screwed!!

    • @Ligerpride
      @Ligerpride 2 роки тому +1

      Don't worry, 35 is pretty much an ideal age to be running a marathon.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Ha ha your life is just beginning, Joshua!! 🤟🏼🤟🏼

  • @AnthonyMcqueen1987
    @AnthonyMcqueen1987 2 роки тому

    I will be 36 when i do my first marathon in February back in the day i was a decent distance runner in HS and College in my teens and early 20s. But now in my mid-thirties and dealing with a few injuries from the past make this journey more and more difficult. I dont expect any fast times at all i just want to complete one so i can move on to Ultra running.

  • @andersonteo4879
    @andersonteo4879 2 роки тому +1

    Initially I didn't know what you meant about not trusting the fart after mile 20, because I have never run beyond 25km! 😆
    I'll be 52 when I go for my first ever Marathon later this year in Dec. I will keep in mind your tip No 10 !

  • @kathleenbolanos
    @kathleenbolanos 2 роки тому

    Last tip was my fav 😂 REAL

  • @michelleharnett1351
    @michelleharnett1351 2 роки тому

    Imodium can help if you find you always need to go! (solving the fart conundrum).

  • @ohcrikey9560
    @ohcrikey9560 Рік тому

    I ran two London marathons back in the early 90's. In my late 20's. Because I worked for one of the London boroughs the race went through, I could have a guaranteed place. 3 weeks before the first one I wasn't even aware it was happening. Had no interest in running. Just did a bit of swimming and had a milk round in the mornings which gave me some exercise. A few of the guys I worked with in my job at the pool told me they were doing it and asked me to join them. I thought ' What?? I don't run!' They still talked me into it. So after only 3 weeks of running including a 13 miler, I ran it in 4hours 9 mins. No injuries. Not even a blister. Did minimum training the next year (I didn't have a clue what I was doing) run a couple of halfs and did the marathon in 3hrs 46 mins.
    Now 30 years later I'm picking up running again. Despite running two marathons in the past, I consider myself a beginner. I pick up injuries quickly and I'm really having to take my time. Not the man I used to be.

  • @matthewfreese1597
    @matthewfreese1597 2 роки тому

    "For every marathon that goes right there's one that doesn't go to plan" got my like and sub with that one comment lol

  • @nobrainnopain
    @nobrainnopain 2 роки тому

    this might be a little overstated but… I think that “never trust a fart” just helped me to close a bad period of my life. I don’t know yet, maybe I just needed somebody to remind me that “shit happens”, and we’re all equal before the shit… (not only) in a metaphorical sense aha! 😀

  • @Kelly_Ben
    @Kelly_Ben 2 роки тому +1

    Love this, a fresh take on a well worn topic. I've recently had to change my training mentality to what you mentioned.... it's better to work out consistently, running less and adding more strength/ yoga, and get to the start line fit and injury free. I work 65+ hours most weeks, and simply don't have time to run more than 3-4 days a week. I did my first 50k at 42, my first marathon at 43, and have decided to focus on staying fit and healthy, and not worry about hitting mileage goals in training. I'll never win, so I'll just do what I need to to tackle the challenges that make life so exciting, without dedicating every free minute to training and injury recovery!

  • @MrEsPlace
    @MrEsPlace 2 роки тому +1

    I turned 38 Sunday. I had the WORST session today on my typical 5.5 mile run. Just cramping and shin pain and my toes are killing me that slowed me WAY down. So I stopped. Massaged and stretched what I could and worked through it. After another mile, I was fine. Killed my average pace but oh well. I’m ok. Getting old ain't easy is it?

  • @lesarbres2625
    @lesarbres2625 2 роки тому +1

    I started running 5yrs ago at the age of 47 having not taken running seriously before. I work as a full time doctor with a family so time is limited. I trained for my first marathon in March 2020 (2 weeks before lockdown) using the idea that my longest run would be 32km. I blew up at 20 miles and clocked a time of 4hr 18min which was disappointing. Over the next 2 years I increased my mileage and frequency of runs. I ran the Manchester marathon in April 2022 in 3hr 29min aged 51. Consistency is key but you can’t skip the 2hr + runs. I agree that S&C is also very important but being older does not mean longs runs are unnecessary. Run for fun, run for speed, run for the hill but RUN would be my advice.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Very well put, Les. Consistency and RUN! 😂😊

  • @keneticchannel
    @keneticchannel 2 роки тому

    Very helpful-especially that last bit.
    - I'm 35
    - I caught the bug (not covid, the running one) almost precisely 1 year to the day
    - I'm training for a "backyard" trail challenge - an event to see how many 2-mile trail loops folks can run in either 3-hours or 6-hours
    - I'm going for the 6-hour and I'm going for 14 loops, aka: 28-ish miles - or however many loops my feet will take me in 6-hours
    - I plan on doing it in sandals
    - Aid stations will also have burgers and beer, but I'm bringing my own peanut butter and bananas as well
    - I'll give a recap on my UA-cam channel so folks can see if I survive
    - Thoughts and prayers appreciated 🤣

  • @Tom_Plumb_PHS
    @Tom_Plumb_PHS 2 роки тому +3

    Well I'm nowhere near a marathon yet ha ha. First 5k end of July and first 10kin October. Next year hopefully a half marathon and maybe a full one we'll see. I'm heading towards 40 so know what you mean about additional rest and recovery. That never trust a fart made me chuckle!
    As a complete newbie runner have you got any videos or advice on at what point in your running progress you should start using gels and carrying water. I'm only running 4k at the moment so it's not an issue but it will be at some point I guess.

    • @edwin5419
      @edwin5419 2 роки тому +1

      I don't carry water til I'm over 10km, not running past water fountains and it's over 25C. I don't bother with gels til I'm doing a half marathon or over. No point under that. But experiment and see what works for you. As you go further you'll hit a point where you'll be like "yeah I should've taken some water on that one".
      Also, make sure to take electrolyte tablets if you're running long in the heat. If your hands start to swell - that's one of the telltale signs of not enough salt.

    • @carlalynch1412
      @carlalynch1412 2 роки тому

      Try run walk method after you run 4km that way you can start increasing the distance without too much extra strain 👍🏻

    • @Tom_Plumb_PHS
      @Tom_Plumb_PHS 2 роки тому +1

      @@edwin5419 thank you. Do find myself craving salty foods after a run sometimes so electrolytes might be a thing. I try to keep my diet very low in sodium so might be I need some after a run.

    • @Tom_Plumb_PHS
      @Tom_Plumb_PHS 2 роки тому +1

      @@carlalynch1412 thank you. I've been doing the NHS Couch to 5k app for 7 weeks now, started with a mix of walking and running. I'm running for 25 minutes so far. Found a 5-10k app that takes same approach mix of running and walking so ill give that a bash. 😊

  • @adventuringacrossamerica3552
    @adventuringacrossamerica3552 2 роки тому

    I ran the Trans Oklahoma 511 miles when I was 37. Not I'm attempting the Katy trail in October and my running feels so sluggish at 44.

  • @AMostlyFunctionalJess
    @AMostlyFunctionalJess 2 роки тому

    It's a puzzle for sure. I did my first ultra last year off training that wasn't consistent enough and ended up with a fairly long term case of runners knee. I can run 6 times a week now and am back up to being able to run over 2 hours before any pain starts to show, but right now ultras aren't possible (discovered this because I had to DNF an FRA Champs race in May because of the knee). Just focusing on the consistency atm and getting a solid base so at the very least I can look to be competitive in the S and M category fell races. Aiming for a fell marathon in the spring and my training for that should tell me whether my knee will ever let me run ultras again! I am trying to relish the challenge and all the planning that's coming with it.

  • @pauldavidson9120
    @pauldavidson9120 2 роки тому +1

    Trust a fart!! Best advice i have heard all year!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @BobBob-uv9fq
    @BobBob-uv9fq 2 роки тому

    Using bike for 134 to 144 bpm ,,for month or so ,,literally the fastest (relative) and most comfortable I’ve run in my life

  • @pranayama-running-Jendrik
    @pranayama-running-Jendrik 2 роки тому +1

    In that kind of age then comes old man strenght really into play 😉🔥💪👍

  • @Tzadeck
    @Tzadeck Рік тому

    Last tip is the most important, haha.

  • @JDMimeTHEFIRST
    @JDMimeTHEFIRST 2 роки тому +1

    I did my first marathon at 35 and qualified for Boston by over 10 minutes. Second marathon ended up being 2021 Boston. So what’s your point? 35 isn’t old and you can qualify more easily. I see 25 year olds keel over barfing at 5ks, so age doesn’t seem to determine if you’re in shape or not.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      I don’t have a point. I made 10. I’m 42 by the way, youngun 😉😂

  • @northernninjarunner5506
    @northernninjarunner5506 2 роки тому +2

    Ben you are still a spring chicken. I was the big 50 this year 😆

    • @ohcrikey9560
      @ohcrikey9560 Рік тому +1

      So are you. I've just rediscovered running and I'm 60 this year. 😳

  • @BobBob-uv9fq
    @BobBob-uv9fq 2 роки тому

    5 yr training schedule,,aiming for under 4 hrs when 60 /. Ran 5 miles today at under 42 mins so building on this Age 55 at moment

    • @ohcrikey9560
      @ohcrikey9560 Рік тому

      You'll get there before the 5 year Mark.

    • @BobBob-uv9fq
      @BobBob-uv9fq Рік тому

      Vo2 max has gone up to 47 today so pretty pleased

  • @lawn5869
    @lawn5869 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Ben, do you have any tips on getting back into training after catching covid?

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 роки тому

      Slow and steady wins the race would be my advice! Take a few steps back because you’re in it for a lifetime. I just ran 5km today as I’ve been out for 2 weeks with a back injury. Could have run 15km but I though what was the point. I know I can and that’s enough. Easy does it 😊

  • @NikhilBhat-cc2fm
    @NikhilBhat-cc2fm Рік тому

    wish i had seen this video first. now I have blown up my ACL

  • @pauln7029
    @pauln7029 2 роки тому

    Make sure that you are healthy in the miles, speed, etc

  • @raycousens5057
    @raycousens5057 2 роки тому

    In 2017 I qualified for Boston by running 3 times a week and cycling 4 times a week at age 60, no need to over do it.

  • @BobBob-uv9fq
    @BobBob-uv9fq 2 роки тому

    Three bottles of beer this year 18/9

  • @svgs7310
    @svgs7310 2 роки тому

    No 10 really was worth the wait 😂

  • @theevilspanky
    @theevilspanky 2 роки тому

    What country are you in? Landscape looks beautiful

  • @stuartwalker6786
    @stuartwalker6786 2 роки тому

    You wanna try doing it when you're touching 60 !! 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣 Me thinks NYC Marathon in November will be interesting after spending the last 10 years concentrating on 60m/100m sprinting😁

  • @stevebailey1682
    @stevebailey1682 Рік тому

    Hey Ben...I know from some of your videos you have suffered with back spasms. What kind of exercises/therapy have you done to help with back spasms? I ask because I am having some problems with that. Thanks.

  • @boneythelynx8884
    @boneythelynx8884 2 роки тому

    Never trust a fart past mile 20 🤣 thanks am planning a marathon next year having only run halfs.

  • @clairhardywynn5620
    @clairhardywynn5620 2 роки тому +1

    I nearly ……. Nearly …… encountered the Mile 20 fart ….. Brighton last year - got to the sea front oh sh@t ….yep literally …… it was awful I spent the last 6 odd miles considering the most ridiculous ways to sort thisProblem out from going on the beach to a bucket in a beach hun !! how I held on I’ll never know I ran straight thru the finish line straight into a porta loo …… that was the only thing that got me over that finish line let me tell ya - the Crs also ran 600m over last year which is all u need when ur busting for a tom tit ….. a ran I’ll never forget 😂😂