Thinking of giving it to my fav Echidna, together with NCD and DC of course and completing it with LF 4 in B skill and probably with NFU 4 in the C skill. However, im saving the one A!Eirika I got from the spark for now until Guiniveres refine comes out, wanting to maybe give her NCD skill in case she might need it since Guin is my total fav overall.
I was just gonna use the free summon and tickets and got her from the free, lol. This banner was going to be a skip for me anyway, but now i got the fodder.
As soon as I summon her I got the notification for this video. It must be fate cause I was wondering who to fodder her off to, and now I contemplating if I should fodder her to my +10 B!Marth or Kagestu.
@@reishiki8682it’s definitely possible, especially with laguz friend. with gust or godlike reflexes as your special though, you’ll really need to give him speed support but mine does just fine. he is starting to show his age but he can still be pretty good
Thank you for the builds and analysis!! It does seem like a pretty good skill for units to have, especially for ones who would like to run other Slot B skills like Laguz Friend.
I got really lucky and got a copy of her for my Shez, who now feels complete, no longer having to worry about counter denial or Dazzling Staff Now she's my most omni of omni tanks
I’m so lucky that Caeda is an Attuned hero so she can still use Null C Echo without giving up her amazing prf B 🥰 Thank you for saying queen Caeda is the second best omnitank 😤😤 I believed she was even before Null C Echo released
@@fimbulvetr6129 Yep. Her Wing Spear lives on. Caeda deserves this alt but I never would have expected them to give her this powerful of a version. Its also great because she covers pretty much all the weaknesses her husband has in combat
So I guess in short vital astra is completely powercrept by gust since it is oiercable, that’d kinda sad but it’s what I expected when I read gust’s description
Vital Astra has a very small niche of giving AOE DR. But that's pretty much it. Gust is less clunky since you don't need to pre-charge to get the DR but of course you still would want some form of Special jumping to trigger it consistently, plus if you want to use it with Laguz Friend, you can't have -1cd on your weapon which somewhat reduces the pool of units that can actually run Gust conveniently. Although while we're on the comparison Vital Astra can't run Laguz Friend at all so... even more point for Gust. I still like Godlike Reflexes better.
I managed to get an Attuned Eirika in 10 summons. I immediately slapped both the echo and Gust onto my boy Rutger. I'm probably going to have to tune up his build a bit to stack more speed, but that boy's about to become even more of a monster. :3c
I got her in 5 summons and just foddered her to Caeda. Sure I'm annoyed it's another Eirika alt, but hey, at least I have a good reason to summon for her.
A melee infantry duplicator can carry so many amazing skills, it becomes rather tough to pick and choose which ones get foddered off. This also results in huge opportunity cost when duplicating tier 4 skills without easy access to a tier 3 equivalent. Looking at you, Laguz Friend 4 (which is typically better off being foddered from a 2-range infantry duplicator).
Isn’t Divine pulse better than gust though? Like maybe if you’re not getting vantage because your foe has hardy bearing and your foe has a special up but 75% special dr > 40% special dr, divine pulse doesn’t have a speed check, and it does about the same amount of damage and is repeatable. Fallen byleth has slaying too so it’s not like LF 4 works for her.
Yay I’ve been waiting for this video! I was lucky enough to pull 2 free A! Erika’s with my tickets. I was shocked lol. It’s nice having good luck for a change.
This is actually some good timing cause I managed to get her for free from a ticket and was wondering if I should build or fodder her up. I may spark a second, but I do know my +10 Echidna is gonna enjoy Gust and Null C-Disrupt.
thank you for the build guide PM1! I'm going to be Foddering the skills from Attuned Eirika to Brave Marth while the ones from Attuned Caeda will go to Legendary Marth. I was initially thinking of giving the skills to Duo Ephraim at first but his RES quite low to utilized the Distant Bonus Doubler
Sadly, he can't; he's neither Rearmed nor an Attuned unit. And even if you did, you'd lose out on using Prf Special, which is the ONLY source of Divine Vein: Water (as of writing this), along with several effects that makes L!M!Corrin unique. In short, it's not worth the tradeoff. But if you like him a lot, by all means go for it, but be ever mindful of the skill equip restrictions.
@@anubiscorrin7559technically you can swap his prf special with dragon’s roar if you REALLY want to use null c echo. he loses out on aoe damage reduction and 50% dr piercing but his dr is still unpiercable and you can pair him with emblem ike for more dr. he doesn’t use divine vein water much anyway because he has that effect already. you can get that from l!camilla as a bonus or in combat buff from s!nerþuz. again, it’s all dependent on what lengths you wanna go to make it work on him. the amount of things you’d need to pull it off just speaks on how shafted corrin was on release
Finally! LOL for some damn reason, I ended up sniping 150 orbs to spark Eirika Let’s get my moneys worth 😂 I may give Gust to my +10 normal Byleth or Shez
It's not a defensive special, so it's like every other non-defensive special: It needs to be 3 or greater CD. If you want to use Laguz Friend with Gust, you need to make sure that the unit's weapon doesn't give -1 special cooldown.
I honestly can’t wait til they add Ninja Saizo to Hall of Forms because a good chunk of these skills I’m looking for but can’t get because A: I’m saving orbs for CYL and B: my pull luck will get me multiple copies of female Shez before getting Eirika.
Surprised you didnt mention Felix for Gust since hes a major Spd demon and can alway have it charged for the full effect. I'm planning on giving it to him alomg with NCDE.
I got two eirika in 40 pulls (I have good luck on sacred stones banners ig) I was thinking about making some dc vantage shenanigans with units like Harken and Brave Marth (who can do no quarter loops with times pulse 4 and marth emblem), might keep one for an omnitank and Gust tho
Spd "omnitanks" need EVERY stat to do that job, so if one stat is a dump stat then they don't qualify as "omni" anymore. Plus, with AoE stonks going up its value is questionable as well.
I got Attuned Eirika on my third ticket, and I was seriously considering moving Summer Alear's NCD to X so that I can put another skill there But then I saw this video and now I realize I have too many candidates lol
Its kinda funny how vital astra is the only piercable DR special because no other DR special after it included that extra "this is piercable" clause. I wonder if they wanted to make other specials be like VA and just never went through with it
Arcane Luin, Godlike Reflexes, D Bonus Doubler, Laguz Friend 4, Odd Spd Wave 4, Squad Seal BY 3, NCD Echo. +Atk/Spd traits. Can run Ike for Emblem. Expensive, I know. But it's a pretty nice build. This is pretty much what my F!Shez currently looks like just swap Arcane Luin with Grima and Odd Spd Wave with Odd Atk Wave N and Seal BZ. But if I had the choice prior to working on F!Shez, there's a good chance I would have built Saizo instead. Also not saying you should actually do this, but maybe you could use it for inspiration.
How could Gust work with Student Hilda since she doesn’t have -1 special cooldown? Currently mine has Vital Astra (Marth Ring) + Atk/Spd Finish 4 + Phys. Null Follow + Panic Smoke 4. Would Swapping out Vital Astra for Gust then doing Laguz friend and Inf Null Follow up 4 be better?
Pretty much, she would be getting 20% flat DR from laguz friend which is much better than vital astras pierce-able DR and she also would be getting full DR pierce on retaliation. You could also have a null follow support unit with Infantry null follow or a unit like legendary elincia in order to free up the C slot to run TP4 so Gust procs quicker
You mentioned B!Dimitri being available in the Hall of Forms Revival. Is that confirmed or just a case of inevitability due to how good that particular Hall of Forms is/was?
I think it should be mentioned that Winter Altina with Null-C Echo means that if you have The def wave 4 skill and vantage then she can shred any of her foes
9:09 Timerra is NOT getting any DR out of Gust, girls whole point is stopping specials from being ready and shes not looping a 2cd offensive special with TP4, even with Marth CD shed honestly be getting more bulk from VA and the Ike ring and if you want damage youd go for No Quarter since shes got no piercing without it. Also side note, if a defense boon can increase Timerras weapon effect to the next bin then taking it is an effective additional +1 to both her bulks, atk, and spd which IMO is better than the extra 2 points of atk that boon would give
I have a 3-4* Marth build up on my PvE Yuri Lowenthal team and god DAMNIT I want to give Gust and NCDE on him so damn bad, so that those annoying healers won't be a nuicance anymore. But my problem doing so is that he already has TP (allowing him to keep using Vital Astra) and D Bonus Doubler from previous inheritance, and honestly it's just a tad bit too much of "wasted fodder" in this case for me. As in I'd rather use it on someone else who has use for all the fodder I can pass on (DBD/TP included I mean), as I'm not afan of passing on just one or two skills. Oh well, here's hoping I'll get another copy that's more sacrificable one day. And by that time I'm sure there'll be new A/B/C skills to first fodder with Eirika, so... Patience...
PM1, please help me! I am going to be giving Caeda the Null-C echo skill, but which do you reccomend overall on her - Gust, or GLR? I have been running GLR on her since her release so am unsure if that, or Gust, is actually better for her. I notice your build of her on the video has Gust but I assumed that was for fodder example from Eirika etc. Which is better overall? Is it Gust?
Like he said, one can be scowled and other not, that is huge for Omnitank, also GLR only trigger when needed and Gust can be wasted in only attack and fail in the retaliation. Eirika uses Gust well thanks to her special jump before attacks. Caeda most of times would want GLR unless you go for more offensive playstyles
For her gust is probably better. It triggers basically any time GLR would, it just activates differently which is where the nuance comes in. Both are probably fair options though. If it is charged at the start of combat, it will trigger on the first hit just like GLR, but you’ll get more damage when Ceada attacks and it actually goes off. However that’s only if it does go off, because scowl is a big deal right now due to it being effective against ike. If scowl does go off and your ceada is properly fast however, it shouldn’t matter that much, because she’ll double and trigger gust on the second attack. At that point marth engage Time’s pulse 4 should make sure Gust is always charged. You don’t need gust to always be charged though because it auto triggers when your foe’s special goes off. It only triggers once compared to GLR but speed and nfu and stats in general should make getting doubled less likely. And you’ll deal more damage when it goes off. However, GLR is honestly fine too. It’s not weak to scowl and potentially can go off twice. Just it’s a lot more important to make sure GLR stays charged, because it’s not reactive, and you are actually vulnerable if it’s not up. It’s a little easier to keep charged because ceada will have more attacks to charge it with (it goes on cooldown earlier) but you’ll definitely need it charged in comparison to Gust. GLR is just clearly better when paired with Laguz friend 4, but Ceada doesn’t need LF 4
If you have emblem marth he makes gust 1 cd anyway, and in most cases gust is a straight upgrade to vital astra. 40% special dr with an easier speed condition vs 30% non-special dr with a demanding condition. Although I think you’re probably best off doubling down into offense with mareeta because she doesn’t really have much going on defensively. If you really really want her to be able to tank, godlike reflexes are going to be her best choice.
Probably a dumb question, but I’m a pretty casual player. Would brave marianne get value off of NCDE? She’s my only +10 five star and I was hoping this could free her to have a better B skill? Does that work? Otherwise, I can give it to my brave Dimitri but he is only +3
No she doesn't get value out of it and by running an attuned skill, she will not be able to equip her Requiem Dance! Brave Dimitri is way better user of it!
gust or godlike refexes on the build from the video? i want to build her like that but i am not sure which skill is better and also if i use emblem ike or emblem marth effect for her...
@@Pheonixmaster1 Oh Really? Ok coolio, I thought it was only Rearmed units and attuned could only use their prf with a rearmed weapon or attuned skill respectively! Thank!
Can you merge a +10 forma into a new forma? My current B! Dimitri at +10 from Forma don´t have an updated build... i would love to give him some new Stuff but well he is already +10. I can´t test it, cuz i dont have any similiar cases.
My two NCDs went to Bimitri and ACaeda. And Eirika herself went into the dumpster after I tried using her in SD and she got bodied by literally everyone.
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If you could get a Free Attuned Eirika, who'd you give Gust to?
Spring Framme I guess, my other favorites are not fast enough to take advantage of it
Probably Lloyd or Diamant
Thinking of giving it to my fav Echidna, together with NCD and DC of course and completing it with LF 4 in B skill and probably with NFU 4 in the C skill. However, im saving the one A!Eirika I got from the spark for now until Guiniveres refine comes out, wanting to maybe give her NCD skill in case she might need it since Guin is my total fav overall.
Female Byleth since she deserved an Upgrade
Assuming it would be a good thing to do, my +10 Lapis.
No one:
PM1 making the thumbnail: I hired this Eirika to stare at you
This is amazing I just summoned an Erika and was waiting for this video
I was just gonna use the free summon and tickets and got her from the free, lol. This banner was going to be a skip for me anyway, but now i got the fodder.
same bro, how funny is that
I find it ironic that fliers in FEH can't get Gust, considering that Gust in a Pokemon context is learned by any Pokemon with wings.
Very ironic
And then there's Wailord
A friend of mine made a similar argument about Fliers can inherit/learn Solid Ground and complained that they aren't touching the ground. lmao
Well that's just real life. Gusts are bursts of wind
As soon as I summon her I got the notification for this video. It must be fate cause I was wondering who to fodder her off to, and now I contemplating if I should fodder her to my +10 B!Marth or Kagestu.
Local servant of Hel found deady-dead, replaced by a bluette with NCD echo.
The real question is, how many times is Dimitri gonna keep eating good from these new fangled skills that keep coming out?
Shh let us enjoy our moment
If he manages to survive against mages that aren't from 5 years ago.
@@reishiki8682it’s definitely possible, especially with laguz friend. with gust or godlike reflexes as your special though, you’ll really need to give him speed support but mine does just fine. he is starting to show his age but he can still be pretty good
Thank you for the builds and analysis!!
It does seem like a pretty good skill for units to have, especially for ones who would like to run other Slot B skills like Laguz Friend.
only for those who aren't god slayers
All I need is 8 more copies of Kagetsu and then he will function properly but I did fodder Eirika to him already lol
Mine's +6 but I get showered in Lapis and Inigos instead (I don't have a good weapon for him sadly too)
@@PenguinWithInternetAccess that's just such a mood, my Lapis is already +10 and fully invested but I just want my boy
@@PenguinWithInternetAccess I only get Inigo and Kagetsu but want a +10 Lapis lmao
I got really lucky and got a copy of her for my Shez, who now feels complete, no longer having to worry about counter denial or Dazzling Staff
Now she's my most omni of omni tanks
same
never mind, I know who now
what is ur build on Shez? Thank u
Who can use NCD echo?
''Any tank without NCD''
''That's fair''
I’m so lucky that Caeda is an Attuned hero so she can still use Null C Echo without giving up her amazing prf B 🥰 Thank you for saying queen Caeda is the second best omnitank 😤😤 I believed she was even before Null C Echo released
Attuned Caeda is definitely top five just because she can look at two class types and say “no.”
@@fimbulvetr6129 Yep. Her Wing Spear lives on. Caeda deserves this alt but I never would have expected them to give her this powerful of a version. Its also great because she covers pretty much all the weaknesses her husband has in combat
here here
surprised she didn't make it into the video
@@doughnutboyfromtheshadowre7199 ? she's in the video 9:37
Wow, thanks for such an in-depth and fantastic vid! The DR spec comparison chart you made is also very helpful
I hope I can use my scam bubbles for another copy of Erika 😁, but these are very helpful builds 😊.
SCAM BUBBLES LOL I am gonna refer to them as such too!
So I guess in short vital astra is completely powercrept by gust since it is oiercable, that’d kinda sad but it’s what I expected when I read gust’s description
Vital Astra has a very small niche of giving AOE DR. But that's pretty much it. Gust is less clunky since you don't need to pre-charge to get the DR but of course you still would want some form of Special jumping to trigger it consistently, plus if you want to use it with Laguz Friend, you can't have -1cd on your weapon which somewhat reduces the pool of units that can actually run Gust conveniently. Although while we're on the comparison Vital Astra can't run Laguz Friend at all so... even more point for Gust. I still like Godlike Reflexes better.
I managed to get an Attuned Eirika in 10 summons. I immediately slapped both the echo and Gust onto my boy Rutger.
I'm probably going to have to tune up his build a bit to stack more speed, but that boy's about to become even more of a monster. :3c
I got her in 5 summons and just foddered her to Caeda. Sure I'm annoyed it's another Eirika alt, but hey, at least I have a good reason to summon for her.
I couldn't at the moment thanks to needing to save orbs, but congrats to everyone else
thank you for the video! I already have my eirika skills to kagetsu :D I got a -atk eirika and immediately remembered you lol
A melee infantry duplicator can carry so many amazing skills, it becomes rather tough to pick and choose which ones get foddered off. This also results in huge opportunity cost when duplicating tier 4 skills without easy access to a tier 3 equivalent. Looking at you, Laguz Friend 4 (which is typically better off being foddered from a 2-range infantry duplicator).
My F!Byleth is gonna be happy with Gust, D BD and Null Disrupt Echo.
and now she's more functional than her legendary, lol
And Time Pulse 4 as well
Isn’t Divine pulse better than gust though? Like maybe if you’re not getting vantage because your foe has hardy bearing and your foe has a special up but 75% special dr > 40% special dr, divine pulse doesn’t have a speed check, and it does about the same amount of damage and is repeatable.
Fallen byleth has slaying too so it’s not like LF 4 works for her.
@@samkeiser9776i agree on gust but d bonus doubler and null c echo are great on her.
Yay I’ve been waiting for this video! I was lucky enough to pull 2 free A! Erika’s with my tickets. I was shocked lol. It’s nice having good luck for a change.
This is actually some good timing cause I managed to get her for free from a ticket and was wondering if I should build or fodder her up. I may spark a second, but I do know my +10 Echidna is gonna enjoy Gust and Null C-Disrupt.
Dimitri keeps winning
thank you for the build guide PM1!
I'm going to be Foddering the skills from Attuned Eirika to Brave Marth while the ones from
Attuned Caeda will go to Legendary Marth.
I was initially thinking of giving the skills to Duo Ephraim at first but his RES quite low to utilized the Distant Bonus Doubler
Was hoping L!M! Corrin could use the NCD Echo. But it's fine
Sadly, he can't; he's neither Rearmed nor an Attuned unit.
And even if you did, you'd lose out on using Prf Special, which is the ONLY source of Divine Vein: Water (as of writing this), along with several effects that makes L!M!Corrin unique.
In short, it's not worth the tradeoff. But if you like him a lot, by all means go for it, but be ever mindful of the skill equip restrictions.
@@TheSeunger Yeah definitely not worth getting rid of what makes him good. I'll keep him the way he is
@@anubiscorrin7559technically you can swap his prf special with dragon’s roar if you REALLY want to use null c echo. he loses out on aoe damage reduction and 50% dr piercing but his dr is still unpiercable and you can pair him with emblem ike for more dr. he doesn’t use divine vein water much anyway because he has that effect already. you can get that from l!camilla as a bonus or in combat buff from s!nerþuz.
again, it’s all dependent on what lengths you wanna go to make it work on him. the amount of things you’d need to pull it off just speaks on how shafted corrin was on release
I wonder if Eirika's kit will work on Brave Dimitri and what would be the final build for him?
Attuned Caeda is going to love the new echo skill.
I’m so glad eirika dev treated this eirika so well.
Finally! LOL
for some damn reason, I ended up sniping 150 orbs to spark Eirika
Let’s get my moneys worth 😂
I may give Gust to my +10 normal Byleth or Shez
and ofc these skills are broken with the help of laguz friend, lol
fallen Julia and Kiria actually have a great asset wit null c attuned skill, and laguz friend
Thank you for this helpful guide, sir=3
I was just about to use my Eirika on my Fallen Lyon, looks like I was on the right track.
Gave my Attuned Eirika's skills to Lumera she was already fully built from the beginning but needed one more upgrade
Omg I didn't realize gust worked with laguz friend man this skill really is bonkers lol
It's not a defensive special, so it's like every other non-defensive special: It needs to be 3 or greater CD. If you want to use Laguz Friend with Gust, you need to make sure that the unit's weapon doesn't give -1 special cooldown.
In the hypothetical case of a Spd/Def build on brave dimitri, would it be viable to give him Gust?
Yes, for sure. You can get it with NCD echo anyways, and even if he loses the Spd check at least you will still get DMG unlike GLR.
that’s exactly what i was gonna do. i really need IS to release spd/def finish 4… should have came a long time ago. spd/def unity it is i guess
I honestly can’t wait til they add Ninja Saizo to Hall of Forms because a good chunk of these skills I’m looking for but can’t get because A: I’m saving orbs for CYL and B: my pull luck will get me multiple copies of female Shez before getting Eirika.
Surprised you didnt mention Felix for Gust since hes a major Spd demon and can alway have it charged for the full effect. I'm planning on giving it to him alomg with NCDE.
Base M Shez with Vantage and Godlike reflexes is ALSO really good.
Due to the face that Vantage and NCD aren’t sacred seals.
I got two eirika in 40 pulls (I have good luck on sacred stones banners ig) I was thinking about making some dc vantage shenanigans with units like Harken and Brave Marth (who can do no quarter loops with times pulse 4 and marth emblem), might keep one for an omnitank and Gust tho
Spd "omnitanks" need EVERY stat to do that job, so if one stat is a dump stat then they don't qualify as "omni" anymore. Plus, with AoE stonks going up its value is questionable as well.
I got Attuned Eirika on my third ticket, and I was seriously considering moving Summer Alear's NCD to X so that I can put another skill there
But then I saw this video and now I realize I have too many candidates lol
Its kinda funny how vital astra is the only piercable DR special because no other DR special after it included that extra "this is piercable" clause. I wonder if they wanted to make other specials be like VA and just never went through with it
would N!Saizo also be a good build option?
IMO he prefers Laguz Friend + GLR with Arcane Luin.
Arcane Luin, Godlike Reflexes, D Bonus Doubler, Laguz Friend 4, Odd Spd Wave 4, Squad Seal BY 3, NCD Echo.
+Atk/Spd traits. Can run Ike for Emblem. Expensive, I know. But it's a pretty nice build. This is pretty much what my F!Shez currently looks like just swap Arcane Luin with Grima and Odd Spd Wave with Odd Atk Wave N and Seal BZ. But if I had the choice prior to working on F!Shez, there's a good chance I would have built Saizo instead.
Also not saying you should actually do this, but maybe you could use it for inspiration.
So... we know one guaranteed unit for the "A Hero Rises" voting event in January/February. 😅
Would Null C Disrupt Echo work good on Young Lissa?
Yes, it's her best attuned skill!
I used Gust and Null C-Disrupt on my Ninja Saizo. He's really a beast at +10 for a F2P unit. Mine could even kill some Emblem Ike
How could Gust work with Student Hilda since she doesn’t have -1 special cooldown? Currently mine has Vital Astra (Marth Ring) + Atk/Spd Finish 4 + Phys. Null Follow + Panic Smoke 4.
Would Swapping out Vital Astra for Gust then doing Laguz friend and Inf Null Follow up 4 be better?
Pretty much, she would be getting 20% flat DR from laguz friend which is much better than vital astras pierce-able DR and she also would be getting full DR pierce on retaliation. You could also have a null follow support unit with Infantry null follow or a unit like legendary elincia in order to free up the C slot to run TP4 so Gust procs quicker
Thank you for all your videos, i am going to name my first born after you
Haha thank you so much for your kind words!!
You mentioned B!Dimitri being available in the Hall of Forms Revival. Is that confirmed or just a case of inevitability due to how good that particular Hall of Forms is/was?
The latter. Unless botters prevent it, I don't see it losing at all
I think it should be mentioned that Winter Altina with Null-C Echo means that if you have The def wave 4 skill and vantage then she can shred any of her foes
She loses Twin Blades then
@@Pheonixmaster1 oh right... Though No Quarter could still work?
Now units can officialy die to a light gust of wind
I stumbled into one and I'm leaning towards B!Marth, I think
9:09 Timerra is NOT getting any DR out of Gust, girls whole point is stopping specials from being ready and shes not looping a 2cd offensive special with TP4, even with Marth CD shed honestly be getting more bulk from VA and the Ike ring and if you want damage youd go for No Quarter since shes got no piercing without it.
Also side note, if a defense boon can increase Timerras weapon effect to the next bin then taking it is an effective additional +1 to both her bulks, atk, and spd which IMO is better than the extra 2 points of atk that boon would give
How well can Yen'fay use this new Special? Does he want any skills to go with it?
Do you think that running Inf. NFU 4 is worth it on her for the warping effect?
I have a 3-4* Marth build up on my PvE Yuri Lowenthal team and god DAMNIT I want to give Gust and NCDE on him so damn bad, so that those annoying healers won't be a nuicance anymore.
But my problem doing so is that he already has TP (allowing him to keep using Vital Astra) and D Bonus Doubler from previous inheritance, and honestly it's just a tad bit too much of "wasted fodder" in this case for me. As in I'd rather use it on someone else who has use for all the fodder I can pass on (DBD/TP included I mean), as I'm not afan of passing on just one or two skills.
Oh well, here's hoping I'll get another copy that's more sacrificable one day.
And by that time I'm sure there'll be new A/B/C skills to first fodder with Eirika, so... Patience...
PM1, please help me! I am going to be giving Caeda the Null-C echo skill, but which do you reccomend overall on her - Gust, or GLR? I have been running GLR on her since her release so am unsure if that, or Gust, is actually better for her. I notice your build of her on the video has Gust but I assumed that was for fodder example from Eirika etc.
Which is better overall? Is it Gust?
Like he said, one can be scowled and other not, that is huge for Omnitank, also GLR only trigger when needed and Gust can be wasted in only attack and fail in the retaliation.
Eirika uses Gust well thanks to her special jump before attacks. Caeda most of times would want GLR unless you go for more offensive playstyles
For her gust is probably better. It triggers basically any time GLR would, it just activates differently which is where the nuance comes in. Both are probably fair options though.
If it is charged at the start of combat, it will trigger on the first hit just like GLR, but you’ll get more damage when Ceada attacks and it actually goes off. However that’s only if it does go off, because scowl is a big deal right now due to it being effective against ike.
If scowl does go off and your ceada is properly fast however, it shouldn’t matter that much, because she’ll double and trigger gust on the second attack. At that point marth engage Time’s pulse 4 should make sure Gust is always charged.
You don’t need gust to always be charged though because it auto triggers when your foe’s special goes off.
It only triggers once compared to GLR but speed and nfu and stats in general should make getting doubled less likely.
And you’ll deal more damage when it goes off.
However, GLR is honestly fine too. It’s not weak to scowl and potentially can go off twice.
Just it’s a lot more important to make sure GLR stays charged, because it’s not reactive, and you are actually vulnerable if it’s not up.
It’s a little easier to keep charged because ceada will have more attacks to charge it with (it goes on cooldown earlier) but you’ll definitely need it charged in comparison to Gust.
GLR is just clearly better when paired with Laguz friend 4, but Ceada doesn’t need LF 4
Question Pheonixmaster1 I am the Mareeta person nice to meet you does Ascended Mareeta also need Gust?
If you have emblem marth he makes gust 1 cd anyway, and in most cases gust is a straight upgrade to vital astra.
40% special dr with an easier speed condition vs 30% non-special dr with a demanding condition.
Although I think you’re probably best off doubling down into offense with mareeta because she doesn’t really have much going on defensively.
If you really really want her to be able to tank, godlike reflexes are going to be her best choice.
@@samkeiser9776 Ah I see thank you for the info.
Yes, it's her best special!
Is it a good Idea to inherit her skills to F! Female Byleth? She too is a a vantage nuke but the only problem is that she doesn't have dr piercing.
Would gust be good on my Goldmary ?
What do you think of Gust on base Felix?
Dodge is underrated since it gives unpiercable dr for aoe (since all aoe dr is unpiercable)
Hoping to get 1 extra copy of attuned eirika by the time i spark for her ouo)/
Now i have new goal for a better build of normal eirika.
Probably a dumb question, but I’m a pretty casual player. Would brave marianne get value off of NCDE? She’s my only +10 five star and I was hoping this could free her to have a better B skill? Does that work? Otherwise, I can give it to my brave Dimitri but he is only +3
No she doesn't get value out of it and by running an attuned skill, she will not be able to equip her Requiem Dance!
Brave Dimitri is way better user of it!
Does new year f!kana want eirika's x skill? I gave her gaurd echo
Is NCD Echo infantry only? I really wanted to put it on W!Dimitri...
Yes, it's locked to infantry units sadly.
I know she’s fallen off, but I think Ninja Camilla would be a good user of Null-C Distrupt Echo.
NCD Echo is infantry only, sadly.
@@Pheonixmaster1 I didn’t realize echo skills had restrictions like that, but I don’t have many echo skills to even notice that anyways
What would be a good Sacred Seal to give to her, Phantom Spd 3?
Phantom Spd gives you no attack which she really needs so Atk/Spd Ideal.
@@Pheonixmaster1 thank you !
Just trying to figure out if run my caeda with BoL 4 or some other C skill once give he null C Disrupt.
Does the Brave Marth Gust build still work well at low merges?
Yes, it especially is good for low merges due to having higher damage output compared to No Quarter TP4.
@@Pheonixmaster1 awesome, thank you!
gust or godlike refexes on the build from the video? i want to build her like that but i am not sure which skill is better and also if i use emblem ike or emblem marth effect for her...
talking about aceada 😅
W8 so Rearmed Lumeria can or can't use the Echo skill with her Prf Skill? I'm confused by the wording.
Any rearmed unit can use any attuned skill of anyone with their prf skill. Rearmed Lumera can use her PRF skill with Echo Skills.
@@Pheonixmaster1 Oh Really? Ok coolio, I thought it was only Rearmed units and attuned could only use their prf with a rearmed weapon or attuned skill respectively! Thank!
Can you merge a +10 forma into a new forma? My current B! Dimitri at +10 from Forma don´t have an updated build... i would love to give him some new Stuff but well he is already +10. I can´t test it, cuz i dont have any similiar cases.
Yes, you can merge formas into other formas!
@@Pheonixmaster1 Thanks! Nice now im really excited for the B! Dimitri Forma rerun!
can I inherit her skills to v!alm? I have GLR and guard echo on him rn, all I heard is "dont have -1sp cooldown cause I'm illiterate
NCD echo should be fine, and he can use Laguz friend 4 with gust.
What does the Q mean IS... WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!!!
Quick?
Do you guys think osian or eyvel work well with laguz friends and gust?
Osian can't due to the -1 Special cooldown built into his Prf weapon, but Eyvel sure can run both!
IS drop a GLR def for Dimitri and my life is yours!
Y'know, I *could* give it to Nephenee but she's already just built like a diet A!Caeda.
I got attuned Erika and ascended Amelia with 25 orbs so I appreciate the build guide
I just figured out what the Q in Moonlight Bangle Q stands for:
Questioning my life choices!
My two NCDs went to Bimitri and ACaeda.
And Eirika herself went into the dumpster after I tried using her in SD and she got bodied by literally everyone.
me when people always banned her team that I had her on in SD-S because they underestimated the power of a hyper-invested M!Shez
Eirika has the "nah I'd win" look on her