Anger is an expression of care - and hope. When one has given up hope there is no anger or protest. Connecting with all of it. The anger and pain and unmet need that gives rise to the anger must all be experienced and expressed. Fascinating conversation.
This was outstanding, and it was a privilege to hear you two in discussion. Aspasia’s point on how anxiety pushes down while anger pushes up, and how anxiety and anger can then collide and cause all sorts of trouble when we don’t have a healthy understanding about anger-that was really powerful. I also really appreciated you, Michael, sharing your story, which really brought out the importance of conversations like this one. I agree that anger brings out this Gordian knot of emotions that we can’t easily name, leading to us wanting to pretend like we don’t feel the anger, which leads to trouble. My mind keeps orbiting anger as some kind of revelation about how we can motivate ourselves so suddenly and powerfully from out of nowhere; in anger, we feel like we can do anything (for bad). A good form of this can be seen in drive, when we feel like we can do anything (for good, for overcoming, etc.). My mind keeps orbiting that…I also really felt when Aspasia was speaking how the ability to “just notice the feeling” of anger is basically a superpower at the heat of human agency. Again, thank you both for this discussion and space. It was wonderful.
Yes, I love you teasing out the all consuming nature of anger and how it seems to override our rationality. I wonder how different the mechanisms for how anger seems to take over as the flow state in which we feel like we could do anything (for good? or is it always for good?) basically the differences in states that we find ourselves in where we feel liberated from the constraints of everyday consciousness and what creates the disparities in what we place our attention on doing as a result. Thank you for listening to this conversation and for your in depth response. And thank you for being the reason that I got to meet such an amazing soul like Aspasia!
@@beyondourselvespod Yes, doing well! This conversation was a nice cross-over with previous conversations between myself, Aspasia and Daniel - all as duos, but the 3 of us will pick it up again tomorrow. Your conversation here helps me warm up to that!
Anger is an expression of care - and hope. When one has given up hope there is no anger or protest. Connecting with all of it. The anger and pain and unmet need that gives rise to the anger must all be experienced and expressed. Fascinating conversation.
Thanks so much for checking it out, Patricia. I couldn't agree more about the link between hope and anger.
This was outstanding, and it was a privilege to hear you two in discussion. Aspasia’s point on how anxiety pushes down while anger pushes up, and how anxiety and anger can then collide and cause all sorts of trouble when we don’t have a healthy understanding about anger-that was really powerful. I also really appreciated you, Michael, sharing your story, which really brought out the importance of conversations like this one. I agree that anger brings out this Gordian knot of emotions that we can’t easily name, leading to us wanting to pretend like we don’t feel the anger, which leads to trouble. My mind keeps orbiting anger as some kind of revelation about how we can motivate ourselves so suddenly and powerfully from out of nowhere; in anger, we feel like we can do anything (for bad). A good form of this can be seen in drive, when we feel like we can do anything (for good, for overcoming, etc.). My mind keeps orbiting that…I also really felt when Aspasia was speaking how the ability to “just notice the feeling” of anger is basically a superpower at the heat of human agency. Again, thank you both for this discussion and space. It was wonderful.
Yes, I love you teasing out the all consuming nature of anger and how it seems to override our rationality. I wonder how different the mechanisms for how anger seems to take over as the flow state in which we feel like we could do anything (for good? or is it always for good?) basically the differences in states that we find ourselves in where we feel liberated from the constraints of everyday consciousness and what creates the disparities in what we place our attention on doing as a result. Thank you for listening to this conversation and for your in depth response. And thank you for being the reason that I got to meet such an amazing soul like Aspasia!
Fantastic conversation. I love all the layers!
Thank you for listening Seth! I always value your presence at the Net and am touched you took the time to tune in. I hope you are well.
@@beyondourselvespod Yes, doing well! This conversation was a nice cross-over with previous conversations between myself, Aspasia and Daniel - all as duos, but the 3 of us will pick it up again tomorrow. Your conversation here helps me warm up to that!
Thanks, Seth! What a wonderful, wild world of connections this place is... can't wait to talk to all of you again.
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