The Metroid Series' Dangerous Position (And How To Fix It)
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2019
- The Metroid series is in a whole lot of trouble. Thankfully, I know a way to save it.
But seriously, can we PLEASE get Metroid Prime Trilogy on Switch?
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We won.
They remastered the 1th game
I've never really played Metroid, but maybe I should.
The games are fantastic. I'd highly recommend giving the series a shot.
You most definitely should
Yeah. Try either Super metroid for 2D or prime trilogy for 3D
Do it!, it will change your life forever
Oh my god, if you haven't by now, you absolutely should. Metroid Prime holds up _INCREDIBLY_ well. It's especially impressive since it was very ambitious and came out in 2002.
I guess you could say...this brings an interesting sense of Dread.
That aged well
And now dread is the most pre order game from e3 2021... Now I'm happy about the future of the series
"I'm so sorry F-Zero fans."
Apology accepted. Still enjoying F-Zero GX and Climax.
dude, F-Zero GX is the best racing I've ever played, but almost none of my friends are willing how to learn how to not suck at it
@@8-bitsarda747 GX is the best. If F-Zero has to die, might as well go out with such an amazing game.
Man 2 years later Nintendo would use all 3 points. Who else is excited for Dread !
Honestly, I'd kill for an animated series of Metroid the same way they did for Castlevania. There's a lot of story to explore on Samus Aran
Hopefully prime 4 does well as I just got into the series around last year. I’ve been waiting for that Metroid prime trilogy remaster for a while now so I can actually play more of the series, great video Duo!
Glad you enjoyed it. Also pretty neat that we both just recently got into the series. Here's hoping for that Prime Trilogy remaster!
Super Metroid is amazing. Play it!
I would expect it to do fairly well. It is also being made by Retro Game Studios (the same ones who made the original trilogy). So, I would expect it to do fairly well. I DO feel that another rerelease of Metroid Prime Trilogy (it was rereleased for the Wii U as a digital download) for the Switch would be a great way to get people to catch up with the Metroid Prime story arc, before the release of Metroid Prime 4.
Screw remakes/remasters, we need Metroid 5. Honestly, it seems like Nintendo just doesn't know what to do with the series.
I really do hope we get an actual Metroid 5. That being said, I don't think it would hurt to rerelease the Prime Trilogy. It could help people catch up on something they might've missed while also actually releasing a Metroid game.
Metroid 5 would be the perfect antidote for the restarting of prime 4 and the huge delay it'll bring. Samus returns should have been on switch to begin with, but failing that, an ambitious 2d metroid should have certainly been made before prime 4 released.
I really wish Metroid Dread was released. A 2D Metroid on the DS would've been amazing.
@@DuoStuff don't you mean rererelease :-)
Chill buddy we just got it.
With Metroid Dread being announced for Switch earlier this year, it's almost like this guy is psychic or something.
On the marketing, Samus Return's was really flubbed imo. Remember how it was revealed? They didn't even reveal it in the E3 2017 direct; they waited till after that was over, and then they were randomly playing it on the treehouse. Of course I saw it, but there's no telling how many other people were just going to watch the Direct itself and shove off. It's likely that a lot of people who watched their E3 show that year had no clue that the game evem existed. And yeah, it being on the 3ds at that time was also a huge issue. I really hope they give the next games focus during Directs, whether that be Prime 4 or the rumored 2d Metroid that might be releasing.
I think part of the reason Samus' Return was even considered and released was because of AM2R. When that game came out, it was absolutely amazing. Up until Nintendo shut it down, it was quite talked about. I got it and played it and loved it. It was the fan service that the game series needed and I think it brought attention to the fact that Nintendo neglected to provide ANYTHING to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Metroid game series.
I still wonder how seeing one of your videos appear in my inbox will suddenly make my day better. This was a good take on the Metroid situation that makes sense.
Glad it made your day better dude. I tried to make this one a bit more fun. =D
I've never played a Metroid game, but I can speak from some experience exposure-wise.
Among the community when I was in middle/high school, I've heard nothing but utmost praise for the series. And yet, I rarely if at all saw any exposure from Nintendo in their commercial properties at the time. Of course stuff like Mario, Kirby, Pokemon, Zelda and such had their place, but also smaller franchises like Star Fox and even Mother felt like they took more to the spotlight then Metroid by comparison. I suppose as a casual gamer at the time, I would've be given that little push to try it if that marketing was a bit stronger.
Makes a lot more sense seeing those sales now. :|
Yeah it's really unfortunate that the series never really hit it big. The series is home to so many awesome games, and yet very few seemed to give it a shot.
I would definitely like a new 2D Metroid Game, especially if it is a continuation of Fusion. While I like the Prime Games, I personally prefer 2D Metroid.
It's good to know I'm not the only one. The 2D Metroid titles are some of my all-time favorite games. Not sure how I feel about Mercury Stream's take on that gameplay style, though.
I hope having “4” in Metroid Prime won’t scare off newcomers from coming in on a continuous storyline.
Metroid prime trilogy, solution solved, good hell already Nintendo WTF
punkydudester3 I so hope Nintendo announces an HD Trilogy this Direct. It’ll be SO good for the franchise 🥺
After the release of Dread, I think they listened to a good number of your points
It sucks that the Japanese audience doesn’t really like Metroid maybe we would have more games then
Looking forward to your Dread Game Over Review!
"Maybe hire Mercury Steam to do another 2D Metroid game?" It's weird watching this video after Nintendo dropped Dread out of nowhere and the game now having been out for little over a year. :P
Missed you duder
Hope you enjoy the video. Be sure to tell me your thoughts
It seems to me that Metroid going in and out of hiatus is more of an internal thing with Nintendo than it is sales numbers, kind of like Berserk (I think?) if you've ever read that manga. Any game selling a million units is great and Prime 1 nearly made it to 3 million on the Gamecbe of all things. From the years of 2002 to 2007, a 5 year time period, 7 Metroid games were released. 5 of those 7 games were core titles, and twice within this 7 year window, 2 core games are released in the same year. That sounds impossible for any franchise, let alone Metroid. It's somewhat because of this that many people at Retro Studios left to do other things since working on the Prime Trilogy non-stop was very intense. Since Sakamoto seems to be "in charge" of the whole series to the point where, at minimum, he's a consultant on every game he isn't directly in charge of, whether or not games happen is probably up to him in some way.
That is a fair point. Especially as of late certain franchises have been on hiatus due to a lack of interest on Nintendo's part. (See: Donkey Kong.) In this case though, Nintendo still is likely taking sales numbers into account. Regardless of the series sales numbers are vital to keeping it going, and while Metroid isn't doing horrendously, a lack of growth certainly isn't helping it. Alongside this the numbers still aren't high enough to be considered "high priority" like other series, meaning that Nintendo will likely choose other series over it in cases where a developer needs to go to one project or another. We've even seen evidence of this directly in Metroid's case as well. Next Level Games originally pitched a 2D Metroid project before Nintendo shafted it in favor of reviving Luigi's Mansion. (Which I also love so I wasn't too mad.)
Sorry for the long comment. I just like getting comments like this. =D
The Switch has been saving franchises. And you're right, people who don't really play some games will pick it up just because it is on the Switch. I have high hopes for Metroid. I don't want it to fall away to memories of the past.
I'm hopeful we'll get a new one on the Switch soon. I just hope that when it releases the Nintendo fanbase is in a better mood than it is in this year. Nintendo's lack of transparency and lack of games this year seems to really be irritating people, and I don't want Metroid releasing in this kind of climate.
Prime 4 needs to be on the same level as the rest of the main trilogy, with the internet bigger than ever and will be even bigger by the time it releases, then all of the good reception will raise the eyes of new comers especially since another beloved game super Metroid is on NSO. Zelda was already massively popular BOTW’s praise attracted a lot of new players and there’s tons of people I see that BOTW is their first Zelda.
I really feel like a Metroid on Switch will help finally make the series more mainstream. If *Fire Emblem* can somehow make a comeback, I know Metroid absolutely can explode into popularity, especially with its somewhat "mystical" status as one of those "Nintendo franchises they neglect but everyone loves" type deal.
JUST DON'T PUT IT ON A DYING HANDHELD THIS TIME *NINTENDO*
Metroid Dread being preordered into oblivion, and Metroid Zero Mission, Fusion, and Prime Trilogy being on the top 5 most sold games of the Wii U's eShop since Dread's announcement gives me hope.
Holy heck you’re alive
Yes I am! (Though to be fair I also had a Luigi's Mansion video out earlier this month.) Hope you enjoyed it!
It would be nice to see a sequel to Metroid Fusion (Which is merely Metroid 4)
But a Metroid Prime 5 for the Switch is nice too.
There would bave to be a Metroid Prime 4 first. (Metroid Prime is technically a separate series from the main series (which consists of Metroid, Metroid II, Super Metroid (Metroid 3), and Metroid Fusion (Metroid 4)).
I'm still holding out for hope that the Prime Trilogy ends up happening.
this video aged really well
I love metroid to death, I can't wait to finish prime 1 because I am having so much fun with that game. Metroid aside I want nintendo to try something new with F-zero, quite possibly a more PG but futuristic GTA style game, with C.Falcon going around solving crimes involving hi-speed chase races and strategy to take down multiple criminals at once. It would be a complete 180 from the traditional F-zero games but I feel with the right direction and proper marketing nintendo can have another heavy hitter. Now I'm imagining how fun it would be having Falcons agility and move set displayed in smash as a gameplay mechanic in a open space also being able to call on the Blue falcon like the batmobile in arkham knight sounds really cool.
2D sprite based games aren't in NEED of a remake. Zero Mission and Fusion are hardly outdated.
Super Metroid holds a special place in my heart. It was my childhood adventure game as I never played Final fantasy or Zelda games until later. I remember buying Fusion but being frustrated at how much more difficult it felt compared to SM. The first Prime was also amazing to me but I again got frustrated at the control system and how daunting the bosses were. Honestly when I got stuck on Metroid Prime final form I just gave up and never bought a Metroid since. It just put me off the Prime series entirely and everything since from Metroid hasn't appealed to me. Its kind of hard to carpture the magic of Super Metroid in a new game nowadays.
Metroid Prime controls _way_ better in Trilogy, putting the sensor bar to insanely clever use. There's also a keyboard and mouse mod if you're interested in emulation. You should give it another shot. Maybe dust off a Wii U and get MPT off the eShop if you still have one lying around.
Just watched a few of your videos covering Metroid (they're really good and its nice to see a new fan of the series). Though I'm late to comment on this video.
I'm surprised they have not done a re-release of Samus Returns on the Switch. Give it a few control tweaks and some graphical touch ups and it would look great in handheld mode. It would probably cheap to do and sell enough to recoup costs and draw interest to the Metroid series. I know I'd buy it and play it again. I have a friend that might even pick it up were it released on Switch. Hell they could even throw in Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission as extras. Then you could play all the 2D Metroids on the Switch. That might help drum up sales and interest.
Also a remaster of Metroid Prime Trilogy might be a good idea for the Switch. Though honestly at this point. I'm hoping that Metroid Prime 4 does not release on the Switch. Anyone that reads this comment is going to be like "What, why?". Well it got delayed. We have no idea when its coming out. Certainly does not look like 2021 (unless they surprise us with a launch reveal in the next few months of this year). Honestly it needs to come out on the successor console to the Switch, be that Switch 2 or whatever daft name Nintendo gives it. Unless Switch lives a unhealthy long time like the 3DS line. I'd want it front and centre on new hardware not aged hardware at the end of a consoles life cycle when less people are likely to buy it.
metroid is a criminally overviewed (?) series.
I'm more scared that the left joycon has no motion controls and the prime trilogy would feel awful to play...
I just became a NEW Metroid fan this year and from what I've heard on the subreddit and the internet I'm not the only new Metroid fan. So I honestly believe Metroid on the switch could get 3-5 million and possibly more.
If Nintendo remasters the Metroid Prime Trilogy on Switch, I would like to see them introduce an element that allows you to travel space in between planets and have a little new content (mini side quest) that requires revisiting these worlds after beating all three games.
6:59 I got an ad for amazon prime right after you said that
Dude that's freaking perfect! XD
Metroid is an awesome idea. I really like the story, but, and this is just my opinion... It's a bit too extreme with it's map style and hidden path thing. I HATE getting lost in games or feeling like I don't know where to go. I recently tried playing super Metroid again and I've beaten it before but it had been years. I got lost a few times and spent time trying to backtrack and find a door I missed or a path I didn't bomb. It was maddening. I finally succumb to the boredom of not knowing where to go. I was having fun up until that point. I think that's what scares people away from Metroid games ultimately. Great narrative and fun when you know where to go, but don't dare lose your way or forget something or you're screwed. That being said, I'm gonna buy a switch when dread comes out and support it and give it a shot. OG here, Metroid on NES was one of the first games I beat when I was like 7. Took me A LONG time and used to freak me out. I hope it ultimately succeeds.
thanks for the video
You're welcome dude!
Well, 1 year later and MercurySteam and Nintendo are realising Metroid Dread (5), you got it😂
The original art is pretty much perfect in the Metroid games already(save for the first). They could slap Prime I and II on the Switch with little to no effort, though Corruption would require them to change control schemes. Include the Original and Super with the Prime bundle to get as much engagement as possible.
Metroid unfortunately has always been niche. The fan base is passionate, but very narrow. I always hope that the next title will bring more people in and propel the series forward, but I won’t hold my breath. I also would like to see Metroid 5. Fusion was great and leaves a lot of possibilities going forward, I’m not so sure going back in time to pad out the prime series is the best move. I hope I’m wrong.
Guys! I've time traveled from the year 2021 to inform you all that Metroid Dread is REAL!!!
Shout it from the rooftops!
and it is already selling crazy! im playing super metroid on 3ds for the first time and i got a sealed copy of samus returns to get me until october 8th!
I’m here and very surprised ^^
Glad to hear it! Hope you enjoy the video.
I have Metroid Prime Trilogy for the Wii, and it is still a great game to visit every once in a while. However, the friend tokens really kind of takes away from the game. Once Nintendo shut down its Wii servers, the loss of the ability to exchange friend tokens made it impossible to 100% the game and get all collectibles. While that isn't a deal-breaker for me, it is a major annoyance. The remake should get rid of that system altogether. Federation Force seems like it'd be a great game to tack on to a Metroid Prime Trilogy remake to include some type of multiplayer component (besides the admittedly crappy multiplayer mode of Metroid 2). While I don't think the game needs more in terms of adding new areas to the games already there, I think adding a few Switch exclusive functionality to make it seem newer, and multiple control configurations would make it an awesome game for the Switch library.
You can download a save file with all the required green tokens which makes 100% possible, although it replaces the current save data on the system
I think prime is a good direction for 3-d Metroid games to continue in but with more advanced gameplay features that are strictly optional.
For 2-d things get more complicated. With games like hollow knight it has to compare to, a more open ended story with obscured details would get some vested interest.
Lets hope that since the Switch is in more hands that Metroid Prime 4 will make a good boost in sales. I know I'm pre-purchasing that day 1. I love the Prime series, but did you know they've wanted to implement Kraid ever since the first Prime? He was originally going to be in the mines, but I guess the gamecube power wasn't enough. So here's to hoping that the Switch will be powerful enough to handle him in all his glory. If not, it's ok, because seeing that Retro Studios is re-taking the helm- I'm sure they'll know where to steer the series.
I'm fairly confident that prime 4 will do well because it has been so long since it has been announced, its's probably has a bunch more people waiting and a lot more hype.
That's what I'm hoping, but it definitely couldn't hurt to re-release the Prime Trilogy, as that would make even more new fans.
I’ve never been into Metroid but it m gonna pick up prime 4
You are prophetic!
This coming from someone dislikes Samus Returns.
@@robertkenny2636 lolwut
I love Metroid but the fan base is more noise and less action. I don't really blame Nintendo for leaving Metroid on ice for so long, after they invested so hard during the GCN/GBA/DS/WII era. Even though Other M is controversial, it was still a risk they were taking. I don't know if Nintendo can do much about sales without changing completely to be a cinematic action game or some shit. It's just a genre that will never make Zelda or Mario numbers. But they do care enough about it to throw the whole Prime 4 away and start from scratch. Other companies would release what they have and call it the day.
With that being said, Nintendo could do more. I get it why Samus returns came out only for the 3ds, it's cheaper to make a SD game, but a dual release on the 3ds and Switch, would boost Metroid popularity. BOTW was the first Zelda of a whole new generation, that will happen with Prime 4 but that could have happen with Samus returns.
Now, here's one point that annoys me a lot. When Cadence of Hyrule was announced i was torned. It was nice that Nintendo that was giving their franchises to indie studios but why Zelda? It's my favorite franchise of all medias but i have to say, the Zelda franchise is not lacking new games, we basically got one every year since 2011. Why not give Metroid to a studio that already does metroidvania? It probably won't cost much and the risk of loosing money is low, but expose the franchise to a big audience until the big 3d game comes out.
MY MAN
Hope you enjoy it!
@@DuoStuff good to see you back
Nice
I don't think it's as easy as just taking a pre-existing game and making it a switch game. I'm no pro, but I will bet dollars to donuts that the previous code does not compile to a new platform without a substantial amount of work to optimize the "Remaster". Aside from that, I love your channel and I'm surprised by the low view count. just wait for it...
Metroid 2 return of Samus was originally released on the first game boy
I think Metroid is ripe for an expansion in its gameplay types. The universe is rich enough to cover different types of games including FPSes, space operas RPG and horror games.
I COMPLETELY disagree. Metroid is specifically in the Metroidvania genre. Not an FPS or rpg. If u have done ur research on the original Metroid prime. Everybody thought it would be an FPS and they were OUTRAGED about that. And also I just can’t see metroid being an rpg. Metroid has always been about exploration not shooting. I do like the idea of it being a horror game though. As long as Nintendo kept those open world elements I would love to play a horror Metroid game.
I understand your reasoning - Metroid was and is still loved for its approach to exploration using the open world with lock & key design it pioneered.
I’d argue however that Metroid is more than its genre. Metroid is a rich universe with lore and environmental storytelling and I think these elements can be leveraged outside the Metroidvania genre.
I think the lore and universe of Metroid could very well be used to create an RPG like Mass Effect (in term of expansiveness & storytelling). It would be a marvellous ground to expose Samus’ to more than silent protagonist pulp fiction trips and be a fertile ground to explore her character more in depth and give her character arcs. She’s got a lot of potential you know 🙂
If I end up contributing to the Metroid franchise in the future feel free to reach out and tell me what you think about my work, good or bad 😉
Philippe Futureboy I do agree with u to a certain extent. Metroid does have a rich universe with endless lore but last time Nintendo tried to change Metroid it was a complete disaster. Metroid Other M was to what I can tell very similar to what u want. More focus on story and combat. Think of how bad that game turned out, it was so bad that u can buy it know for like a dollar. The game is complete trash. I haven’t played mass effect and I don’t know much about it so I won’t disagree with that point. I don’t talk about games I haven’t played.
Very good point! Nintendo is definitely not the best game dev when it comes to expanding and getting out of beaten paths. They are great at honing their skills on very specific avenues but they tend to be very conservative otherwise.
It’s not because Nintendo failed once that it bars Metroid from having potential in that area. Imagine, what would happen if CD Projekt Red took on the Metroid mantle? ✨✨✨✨
Philippe Futureboy I’m not sure about that. As great as project red is, Nintendo games have a very special feel that is captured by all of their games. I would be scared that anyone other than Nintendo just wouldn’t handle Metroid properly. Project Red could definitely make a great Metroid game but would it even feel like a Metroid game? Unfortunately we will never get to see Projekt Red or anyone make a game out of Nintendo’s ips because We all know how selfish Nintendo as a company is when it comes to their ips
With metroidvania styled games absolutely killing the indie scene, I don't see why they couldn't make a fantastic 2-d game.
2:02 Don’t remind me...
Us Pikmin fans have also got it really tough...
I wonder if the developers who made Samus Returns are on their way of releasing Metroid Fusion remake on the Nintendo Switch?
This would be a good game while Prime 4 is still in mid development.
I think it would actually be quite hard to remaster the Prime series on the Switch. The main problem is, that the best versions of Prime 1 & 2 are the ones on the Wii and the Switch doesn't really support the way the aiming (which is maybe the most important thing of those games) worked on those versions and Prime 3. I love the Prime Trilogy, it was my gateway into the series (because I failed so hard while playing Metroid II on the GameBoy as a kid), but the gameplay would have to be as smooth and excellent as it was in the Prime Trilogy on the Wii and I don't see that work with the pro controller or even those horrible joy-cons (pls don't be mad guys, I just really don't like those).
Metroid is also tied to nintendo. Many old fans of the series since the nes days likely do not buy their consoles anymore like myself. That plus the low sales mean they would have to completely rebuid the franchise and gain a new fan base just to warrant continuing it. For me metroid ended on a high note with super metroid and I'm happy with that.
Did we do it? Did we win?
We won, and I'm glad we did.
You, I had always been a Metroid fan, since I was a kid, but there is a problem, I was an illegal Metroid prime, like, I pirated almost every game, but recently I wanted to buy a new console, a New 2DS XL to be more precise, so I guess I will just buy a lot of Metroid things, like I want to buy a 2DS Metroid edition, the amiibos, obviously the games and ports, hell, even I want to buy Metroid Prime Federation Force and try it. I wasn't able to support Golden Sun in the past and now is dead, now I will support Metroid so I won't lose it too.
You could say metroid had a dark era, but at least it had no games to insult it during that time
R.I.P. Starfox
ALSO, ZERO DOESN'T SUCK! IT"S STILL A LOT OF FUN AND CREATIVE
Funnily enough, I'm not a huge Starfox guy, but I did enjoy Zero quite a bit. The controls almost immediately clicked with me, and I thought that, outside of the Star Wolf fights, they really enhanced the game. Also the soundtrack was stellar, and I personally thought the game looked gorgeous. So I'm with you on that.
Then what was Other M and Federation Force?
Glad we're getting Metroid 5 now, but at this point, I feel Nintendo has lost the code for the Prime Trilogy. At least that's Team Ninja's excuse for not having Ninja Gaiden Black in their trilogy. lol
yea i never beat them on gamecube, i was too young. i really want them to port them to switch also!
I still think releasing Metroid Prime 4 on the Switch is not a good idea. It would do better as a launch title for a new console or as a title that appears 1 year into a new Nintendo console's life span like Metroid Prime during the Gamecube-era. They could release Metroid Prime trilogy for Switch and then do back-to-back releases alternating between Prime games and sidescroller games...so that half of all Metroid games are 2D sidescrollers and half are first person.
Damn i can’t believe Metroid 2 sold more than Super Metroid... I guess there were so many gameboy sold!
Last mainline proper Metroid games were Fusion and Zero Mission. Would've bought Samus Returns inspite of super fugly 3D style if they had bothered to released it on the Switch which 3 years into its lifespan doesn't have any Metroid titles outside of the NES/SNES ports
I hope Metroid can get at least one game person console.
How about a video on how,if you were handed the keys to the franchise,would make your own metroid game?
I'm actually not 100% against that. Might think about it for a bit, see if I can come up with any ideas. =D
I am hoping for a killer Metroid game on the Switch that revives the series.
I guess prime stayed the most sold game with that remaster 😆
We gotta wait and see, as Metroid Dread outsold the OG Prime, and we still don't know how much Prime Remastered has sold.
Either way, we got a banger 2D game and a banger remaster, so I'm happy.
Hey from 2021. Still no word of Prime Trilogy for switch or Prime 4. Here's to hoping.
Hey from later on 2021. Metroid Dread was announced. Your hopes weren't in vain.
@@legoworld246 lol it seems that they were not in vain. Thanks
People will never tell you because it was just a small adjustment however Nintendo never cared about what paying customers think so let them make the same mistake over and over.
I beat Metroid Prime without a guide my first and only time playing through it. I didn't find it too frustrating, myself. Hard, but not impossibly cryptic.
My policy is to avoid guides because they take the fun out of games. Finding the artifacts was a fun journey and test of my wits.
With guides my philosophy is: if I've been looking around for too long and I'm no longer actually enjoying the search, then I'll look at one, but not to get the full answer. More of a "oh it's in the Phendrana Drifts huh? Okay, let's head there and figure it out." or "oh it's near this room somewhere." That way even if I use a guide, I still get to figure out a bit of it on my own. It's like getting a hint instead of the full answer.
This makes me sad. I was wanting metroid on the recent Nintendo direct but sadly no. I wish Nintendo would release the metroid on steam. I'm sure they would sell like crazy
Yes, Metroid games matter!
Will metroid dread be enough?
yes
Three Houses got as far as it did because franchises pretty much always do well on the Switch. Prime 4 will easily outsell it.
I mean we'll see. Regardless I'm hoping it at least sells similarly. Hitting 3 million would likely guarantee we get more Prime games.
I also really hope if we get a 2D one, that it also does well.
Personally, I find the entire Prime series to be terrible. The story is great from what I know of it from reading wikis and stuff, but I simply cannot get behind the 3d gameplay choices they went with. Prime 1 and 2 I have played, and basically gave up after a few hours because of how terrible I found the 3d experience. I skipped 3 because I simply couldn't ever find a reason to own a Wii due to loathing motion controls. I managed to actually beat Hunters, but as a whole that game was probably the worst control-wise to me because it was put on a system it really should never have been crammed into. On the other side, every 2d Metroid game has been a great hit with me. Grew up with Super and Fusion, formed a complex love/hate relationship with the original because... everything about it... and dove into Zero Mission and came out loving it.
Samus Returns was probably the best and has a bonus of being the ONLY 3ds game where the 3d ever worked right for my eyes out of the ENTIRE 3ds game library that bothered with that "feature".
Federation Force... I just pretend I'm Japanese for that one and act like it doesn't exist. It's better for my sanity that way.
I can understand not being into the 3D ones. They're a bit of a different flavor from the 2D titles, meaning that they have a different appeal. I personally love Prime for its wonderful atmosphere and environments, and because of the really unique feeling first person adventure feel.
Is it still in danger?
nah, dread has been a huge success
Great games, low sales
Metroid would definitely SELL A LOT BETTER outside of nintendo.
Nintendo is great, sure, but the target consumers are not the ones more likely to buy Metroid. They are to comfortable with colorful, simple games....
On the other hand, Sony and Xbox has a lot of public that like games like metroid (mature, storydriving, complex experiences). Metroid has more in common to franchises like Halo, Doom, God of War, Uncharted, Dead Space, Bioshock, Gears of War, etc., than the ones of nintendo (mario, zelda, kirby, earthbound, starfox, fire emblem, pokemon, etc).
That's the reason why I think the Metroid franchise sell so poorly, despite being well-know , popular and important to the game industry.
Man I’m late to this video
Yeah you're a little bit late. I'm legit getting close to done with the next video at this point. XD
It's all good though. Get to it when you can or want to. =D
A bit outdated, now.
Well not completely. We need to see if Dread is marketed well. But if it is and it sells well, then yeah as of October 8th the video will pretty much be outdated, which is fine.
@@DuoStuff which was the goal.
I find it criminal that a series that has been around since the NES era and is generally considered highly has barely a dozen games in it by 2020.
How to fix it? they pick Metroid Fusion, make a multiplayer driven game with survivors in a similar atmosphere, put nintendo signature on it, and you're gucci.
Ok that's kinda cheap, but not as cheap as "easy" mod. Really you'll get more people playing your game by making a solid mp behind.
Or perhaps just make some real 2d game WITHOUT releasing at the end of a console?!
EVERYONE WHO HAS A SWITCH BETTER BUY METROID PRIME 4 AND ANY NEW METROID PLEAAAASE! Sorry for caps, i just want people have more chance to read it...
I feel like Metroid’s Main issue is that it’s a mature nintendo series. Most of the top selling Nintendo games have an appeal to Children. And Fire Emblem has Waifus, while a lot of stereotypical male gamers don’t like strong female heroes without claiming there’s “””an agenda”””. (Granted Samus was like, the first strong female video game hero so you can’t really call her pandering) But I agree, we need a Samus Returns or other remasters on the Switch. I love how the original and Super Metroid are on the Switch VC, but we need more.
Agree. And for me, Metroid is a franchise that has more in common with the ones outside of nintendo (sony, microsoft) rather than the ones of Nintendo itself.
But nintendo would NEVER allow one of their properties to step outside of it. Never.
I hate to be the pessimist in the room, but I highly doubt nintendo would do any of these. I think they just have no idea what to do with this series or how to market something that isn't a mario or zelda.
Nah I get it. Nintendo lately has been making some really dumb decisions marketing-wise.
I'm just hoping for the best. I want the series to do well finally. I don't want another decade long drought.
Release MP4 for PC.
I'm going to be completely honest, I kind of doubt Nintendo would do that. XD
Just a thought:
Nintendo made Metroid as a padding game and never thought people would like it.
It got some fans, but only enough that Nintendo still throws out a game or two sometimes to keep them 'content'.
Nintendo wants Metroid to die - it's the fans that force them to keep beating that dead horse.
If Nintendo is smart, they make the game that fans have wanted for years, a game so wanted that it will make even fans who aren't optimistic loose there minds
A prime pinball sequel
I mean...1.5 million sales on average are hardly numbers to sneeze at...
Plus while fire emblem three houses did sell extremely well for an srpg we have to remember it also released during a content drought from Nintendo, on a popular modern console, and even then it didn't outsell the best selling metroid game
Nintendo, notice, 144 likes, 0 dislikes, give us what we crave
Look, this is Because they didn't have the firm install base of hardcore gamers that they have now. Metroid would do 5 x the previous numbers. EVERYONE IS begging for new metroid games. Nintendo needs to port metroid Samus returns remastered to the Nintendo switch. Nintendo has taken chances on things that are far less profitable. Metred anything would sell really well right now. They are totally messing things up by taking too long on the trilogy.
I think metred prime fusion is going to be the next 2D metroid that is rumored. Nintendo truly doesn't care what fans want because they constantly ignore our requests. Seriously talking to nintendo is like talking to God, It always seems one sided you are told you should express your feelings and desires yet you constantly feel like no one is listening or cares. 22 million people of different users constantly click bait Every single video yet they do nothing. I have always loved nintendo but I seriously think they are stepping on my toes and pissing me off. They're starting to seem like that snobby bitch Who pretends to like you yet does everything against your requests. I grew up with nintendo since the atari days. Santori Iwata listened, I don't know who is truly in charge now but somebody needs a bitch slap.
The Metroid franchise has always been treated poorly by Nintendo. I’ve known about Metroid since I was 7 or 8 years old and I still have very seldom heard anything about it unless I randomly saw it in a GameStop upcoming release flyer.
I'm playing metroid prime right now. I think Nintendo just needs to stray away a bit from Mario, Zelda, And Pokémon. That's my take on why they dont make another Metroid Game. They Hope for Metroid Prime 4 does well? Well I'll buy it to help it sales-wise and For being a New Metroid Prime game
Metroid Prime 3 was released on a console with a new audience, the Wii, barely an increase in sales happened. Why should the same happen on the Switch? You said it yourself, the Prime series started out strong and then dropped immediately after, indicating the audience probably did not like it much either (but were hopeful.) Having "Prime" in the title may be the new release's downfall.
The reason why Nintendo liked Metroid initially was because it succeeded in Japan and North America. Ever since Super Metroid, this was no longer the case. Nintendo has been chasing the dream of creating a success in Japan but the Japanese never took the bait.
This video said something that irked me: _"accessibility"._ Anybody who says they wanted to play Metroid but were afraid of the game being to hard are lying to you, they will never play Metroid games. This is like saying _"I would play Metroid but the game costs $60 and would prefer if it was free."_ Never listen to those people. Making games "accessible" just waters the experience down will turn more people off.
Accessibility is a lie. There are many games that succeed due to their difficulty which is the path Metroid needs to take now. The most successful game in the series is the first game on the NES and Famicom, a game notorious for its difficulty. But no, we should make easy games for babies and charge full rate 'cuz we're idiots.
I disagree about making the games more accessible. Fusion and Zero Mission are already more accessible than Super because they were released on handhelds (although Fusion is a tough game), and Prime 3 is more guided than 1 and 2 because the Wii had more casual gamers.
None of those games sold well.
Not to mention the fact that some games nowadays are marketed on their high difficulty (Dark Souls, Cuphead et cetera) and they sell well. I don't see why Metroid couldn't do this as well.
Heavy Marketing is the way to go. Also, more of the games should be available on Switch.
And please, no Super Metroid remake. Nor Fusion, for that matter. They would only end up looking worse, and probably have some fanservicy BS like Samus Returns' final boss.