I honestly was hoping for a while that they'd port it. The game would've sold a lot better on Switch firstly, but also aspects like the visuals and controls would've been improved on Switch.
Porting it to the Switch would probably be one of the best things to do for not only long time fans but also for bringing in new fans, at least I feel like it would be. I just know that I'd buy it in a heartbeat if they did that.
Prime 4 is coming out on switch as well as hopefully a fusion remake, it wouldn't make sense for them to port a game so obviously meant for 3DS onto switch when they already have a project(s) ready for switch
I've played through Samus Returns like 4 times or so, I would so easily rebuy it on the Switch. Metroid games are the kinds of games that are meant to be replayed.
I for sure want mercury steam to make any future 2D Metroid games, this game is proof in my eyes that they should and then retro can deal with 3D because we know how well prime has been received
I agree on that. I want to see what Mercury Steam can do with an original 2D Metroid honestly. I mean some of Samus Returns's problems were because it was still fundamentally Metroid 2, so I want to see how things go if they have complete creative freedom. And yes, Retro should keep handling Prime. Though I hope Nintendo lets another studio make more Donkey Kong Country games then, as I also want that series to keep going on.
I like that Metroid was never dead but there just wasn’t hardware to realize Sakamoto’s vision for Dread till now This makes all the talk about Metroid being dead hilarious in retrospect
The Hype I had for this game was unreal, OI would constantly watch trailers, interviews, theory videos, and on day of release I nonstop watched the streams of mercury steam and the game director talking about it. And while I havent played this game in a while it's my 3-5th favorite. It's a close call with how amazing these games are
Me: expecting a series of Analysis videos on purely Paper Mario Duo: Announces analysis videos on all Mario RPGs "You'll never see it coming!!!" Video was great, loved the Metroid analysis videos.
First: Yeah almost everyone who guessed either picked Paper Mario or Mario and Luigi. Legit almost no one saw it coming. XD Second:Glad you enjoyed it. This was probably my favorite of the bunch.
IMO Metroid is a series best taken in small doses. When the market is saturated in Metroid games as it was in the 00s the franchise doesn't feel as special and people take it for granted. When they are spaced farther apart it makes them feel like special events. It sucks Metroid Prime 4 is going through dev hell, the wait from Returns wasn't supposed to be this long. If it turns out good though it will feel spectacular. If it's bad... get ready for an even longer hiatus. As far as Samus Returns goes, it was a little bittersweet to me. AM2R was so awesome that it had taken the Metroid 2 spot for me. This one felt... I dunno, overproduced maybe? It's good don't get me wrong, but AM2R felt so much more like what I would have personally expected out of a M2 remake. Samus Returns is so different it is really it's own thing. A good thing though! At first I thought it would have been much better if it weren't a remake but a whole new game, but looking at it from an official release perspective I see that it holds a good spot in the lineup as AM2R is unofficial and not on most people's radar so they need a modern take on M2. I'm happy we got it. Edit: good videos dude, thanks for the content.
Honestly compared to when they were released, they have done WAY better. The first week I released this one it got 200 views, and now it's at 10,000 almost. I'm really happy so many people have enjoyed it. =D
Actually, I had intended to release this about 2 days ago, so if anything it's a little late. Still much faster than the gaps between the first three Metroid videos though. Hope you enjoyed the video. =D
I still want a post fusion game...maybe where Samus as a Fugitive and has to work with the Space Pirates against a bigger threat. “Samus and the Space Pirate’s Curse” if you will. (That’s referencing how in Shantae and the Pirate’s curse she has to work with her nemesis against a bigger threat)
I first played Super Metroid back in high school in roughly 2013, and always meant to play the rest but just never had the time. Then Terminalmontage released his Something about Super Metroid video and I finally played Zero Mission, Samus Returns, Super again and Fusion. Each time I finished a game I would watch your video covering the respective ones. Your series is an absolute joy and it really made me appreciate the Metroid franchise even more, it's given me an even greater appreciation of the Metroid series beyond just being really fun games.
Video: "Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to my Game Over analysis of Metroid: Samus Returns!" Me: "It's been 9 minutes... I legit checked the video title 30 seconds ago to make sure I clicked the right video"
People recommended the original Metroid to start with?! What jerks 😂 You should always start with Metroid Zero Mission. It’s an overhauled remake of the original with more lore and way easier to get into. I’d say Zero Mission, Samus Returns and then Super Metroid is the proper order.
I'd say start with Super. Because after playing Zero Mission or Fusion the old controls are SO cumbersome. I'd almost rather play the original Metroid.
I got into Metroid two years ago thanks to the original Metroid II, so it's cool that its remake was what got you interested in the series as well! When I first played Metroid II, the repetition of the Metroid battles and the linearity of the map were exactly what I needed to get a grip on the game and not get lost! After watching your review, I wonder if the lack of enemy variety (which I'm still a bit iffy about) and the constant use of the melee counter (which I really like!) were intentionally made for new players for similar reasons. If so, some of the ways Samus Returns is set up make a lot more sense! Anyway, I thought Samus Returns was a fantastic remake! The Diggernaut and Ridley fights were some of my favorite additions! Great review, dude!
That's actually rather interesting that you started with Metroid 2. While I liked it a decent amount, a lot of people I talk to said it was too archaic. (I don't really agree.) But yeah, besides lacking a map, its format is actually great for getting into Metroid. And also, your points about Samus Returns is actually really interesting. Those might've been added purely to appeal to newcomers like me. Anyways, glad you enjoyed my video. =D
Man I binge watched this metroid series you created here because it was done so well. This after just completing zero mission and fusion for the first time this last week (just for reference sake I played and beaten almost all the other games in the series including the recent Dread). Suffice to say I'm a HUGE metroid fan, and I would love to hear your take on Dread as well. But the work you have done thus far is very solid and I applaud your effort. 👏
Well I'm glad you enjoyed the project. I will say, however, that Dread is unlikely to be covered. I've completely changed styles/formats since I did these videos, and I don't think a random Dread video would fit with my current direction. Sorry about that!
@@DuoStuff no worries I completely understand, as I just stumbled across your videos recently. They were a pleasure to watch. Wish you all the success life can afford ❤.
Off topic, has nothing to do with your review but part of the series itself. People seem to forget that Fusion introduced an "air dodge" move that allowed you to flip out of the way if you accidentally did a standard jump near a boss. This was brought over into Samus Returns.
And now Metroid Dread is coming out in just a couple of weeks! So stoked for it! Metroid 5 baby! I know it's gonna be good already because it's been developed by the same team who did Samus Returns!
@@DuoStuff your channel is really great, youre doing a killer job, i would argue your keeping a quality toe to toe with arlo. Keep the good work :D As a sugestion i would love to see a a review on the paper mario series, specialy the 2 old ones, 64 and Thousand year door.
I am actually playing through 64 right now for footage. (Though its video won't be out for a bit.) I intend to get to each one of the Paper Mario games, but because they're so dense and I have so much to say about each one, there will be a gap between each PM video.
Ikr? Just stumbled onto it a day or two ago and binged all of these Metroid videos. So much of what he says relates to what I think about the games. Looking forward to watching his other videos.
Watched all the videos & had a blast seeing your progression into the Metroid series. Would love to see you review Dread eventually & hear your thoughts on it!
I got into the series back in Middle School with Prime and Fusion in 2002. Ever since then I've been a lifelong fan. I can't emphasize how important E3 2017 was.
Wow this series has been so satisfying to watch. And all those feelings you were talking about with Metroid fans at the beginning? You hit the nail on the head. Still upset Nintendo doesn't know how to make shoulder buttons so I've never been able to beat the game. What I have I've loved, and damn that Ridley fight makes me want to go out and buy a new 3DS so I can play through it! I'd love to see you do these for the other games, maybe around Prime 4's release. Whatever the case, this has been an awesome series and I'm so glad to see this series getting the respect it deserves with such well done critiques. Also, at least I was 1/3 of the way there with guessing the next series. Super excited for it, I should probably finish Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario in anticipation. Keep being awesome, Duo!
I'm glad to hear that. I've loved making these Metroid videos a whole lot, and I always look forward to your comments. Also I would highly recommend giving it another shot. While Samus Returns isn't my absolute favorite of the 2D games (I like Fusion and Zero Mission more) it's still really cool. As far as the other games go, I fully intend to finish it up at some point, maybe even next year. My plan is to cover all the 3D games next time I get around to this series, with Prime 1-3, Hunters (which no one talks about for some reason), Other M, and Federation Force. If any other 2D or 3D games release in that time I'll also cover them. Glad you're excited about the Mario RPG Series. I've been really excited about covering all of them, especially certain ones. And considering one of those important ones is Super Paper Mario, it definitely wouldn't be a bad idea to play it. ;)
Why is this literally not having thousands of views? Your voice sounds like it would. Is this some kind of fail at advertising yourself? It's not your fault.
I feel like MercurySteam gave hope to Nintendo, not just when they made a remake of Metroid 2, but also because MercurySteam revived Metroid Dread; which is now a highly anticipated game by many Metroid fans and other people that play metroidvanias. The Metroid franchise got a lot of fans when Metroid Dread was announced which hopefully will bring more light to this franchise as well as Nintendo putting more money and focus on Metroid games instead of just ignoring the franchise for years as is has been before.
Same here, it is flawed but far from the disaster it is painted as. I hope he gets to play and review it as well in the future given how it is part of the 2D story.
Indeed I am. It'll probably be a month after the game comes out before I actually can do it. (I gotta play it first, y'know? XD) Also I should note that my editing style has changed quite dramatically since these Metroid videos, so it'll definitely feel very different.
I personally am not a fan of the melee counter. It doesn't hurt the game too much, but there is a significant lack of variety in enemy attack patterns and I think the melee counter is to blame. At least 80% of them just charge you and the most effective way to deal with them is to counter, likely by design. You can shoot them from afar if you want, but I'm pretty sure enemies take more damage after being countered. Not to mention some enemies have extra defenses in place that you circumvent by stunning them with the counter.
📞📞📞 "Hello? Is that DuoStuff? Yes this is October 8th 2021 calling; And Good news! We have a new Metroid for you to talk about..." "And you're gonna dread it..."
Oh my God, somebody finally says it: Samus Returns Ridley fight is the best one in the series. Also, honestly a lot of the other boss fights are near the top for me, too. This game has like a near perfect difficulty balance, where the combat feels a lot tougher this time around but you still slowly get better at it. Finally taking down the Diggernaut after a lot of fails was super satisfying the first time around, and I love how its lurking in the background all the time. Also, unrelated, but did you try using the 3d in this game? I know most people dislike the 3ds's 3d, but I will say that this game has probably some of the best 3d on the system, the backgrounds look fantastic with it on. Anyway, I got through all of your Metroid videos and they were really cool, thanks for making them!
Let someone from the era clear something up for you. I grew up with these games. What was meant by "Metroid is Dead" was that the original metroid was not ever going to have an 8-bit sequel the original fanboy wanted. With nothing improved or added just continued storyline and additional exploration without any type of leading hand affect. After that many releases the hope was dead for that possibility. It is sad just how much is lost in translation over the years.
Great video! I’m also a newer fan of Metroid (it was the Prime Trilogy that did it for me) and I also love SR. I think some older fans are overly hard on it, while I find newer fans tend to really enjoy it!
Hey, just finished up marathoning your entire Metroid series over my morning jog! Before I get into Samus Returns, gotta say you did very well on all the videos, and I found it funny that your views coincide with a lot of mine on the Metroid series at large. (The story of Prime and Fusion, the games that got me into it in the first place, being my big draw) As for this game, a lot of people prefer AM2R, and I get why, but this game packs a whole lot of stuff in it that ticks a lot of my personal boxes that AM2R unfortunately doesn't even remotely do for me, not the least of which is one that I think separates Metroid from its fellows in the game industry. That of course being Metroid's sheer, wild ambition with each new entry. Each game in the series throws caution to the wind in what it wants to achieve with each entry, never wanting to be the exact same as the last. Metroid Fusion easily could've been just another Super like most would expect, but instead turned the expectations on its head to make Super Metroid's very specter one of its themes. AM2R, for as good as it is in so many ways (I have minor nitpicks I'll probably bring up when you get there), very much feels like Zero Mission But Metroid 2, and that leaves it with something of a lack of identity of its own in some respects. Samus Returns meanwhile stands out for its complete lack of fear in challenging its own series conventions in places, trying new things in the design, when it very easily could've played it safe, and given the series hiatus, might have been the logical choice for most. But Mercury Steam and Sakamoto (who produced this game and thus basically oversaw every aspect of their design and implementation, contrary to what many may assume) didn't play it safe and made my third favorite game of 2017 easily right behind Breath of the Wild and Sonic Mania. What I find best about the game beyond anything else though is what it does with the incentive of 100% completion. While the others games largely just gave you a different ending pose/art as your reward, which is fine, Samus Returns takes advantage of Metroid 2's segmented areas by putting a full completion bonus with each one giving you a piece of art detailing the backstory of the Chozo on SR388, creating the Metroids to combat the X Parasites, and the Metroids' mutation into something they could no longer control (due to the very energy of the new Aeion powers which drew them there in the first place no less!) And the reward for 100% completion, well.... That actually ties somewhat into Metroid's future, which is a little cryptic given Sakamoto's relative radio silence by and large as a game designer. However, in 2018, a full year after Samus Returns, Sakamoto did an interview with a Spanish video game website (which you can read some translated highlights on this Resetera thread www.resetera.com/threads/interview-with-yoshio-sakamoto-regarding-metroid-samus-returns.56925/) in which he detailed some thoughts on the game's development, including being unable to make a new game after Other M due to the team splitting off to other projects, working with Mercury Steam, and others. The line that intrigues me most though is the tease about Samus Returns' 100% completion reward, the final image teasing about what could be coming next. They have their eye on what comes next for Metroid, and to me that reads like a when, not if, proposition. Similarly from what I hear Metroid Samus Returns sold well within expectations for it, so I don't think we have anything to fear about Metroid going dark like before. And when that day comes, I look forward to seeing you cover it!
Nintendo really should put Zero Mission, Samus Returns, Super and Fusion on switch cartridge and put the Prime Series on another one. I know I would buy both.
I actually wouldn't be against that in the future, though mainly because of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky, as I really love that one. (Also played Red/Blue Rescue Team and Super Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, but not Gates to Infinity for some reason.) For now though, the next marathon is focused on the Mario RPGs, so I hope you enjoy that too.
They had been telling stories for years. One would think they could give a nice origin story for Samus. I mean, like, having Samus as a young woman who wasn't that bada** yet and you watch her transformation into that stoic bounty hunter as you play a game would be an epic game to play.
Same. The Remake sure looks amazing and detailed, but it also strips away most of the identity that was metroid 2. Also I can't stand the input controls of Samus Returns, but maybe my fingers are just too fat.
@@Mqstodon just take the ending of Metroid 2 as an example. After killing the Queen and the hatching of the baby the music becomes serene and the winding paths surfaceside invites samus and you to reflect on the events, where as samus returns just keeps going, enemies everywhere and then the most stupid way of inserting a non sensible fan service in the form of a ridley battle. Which then begs the question why did samus went straight to ceres when ridley was following her? Am2r respected the original idea, and its beautiful.
I am like you was DuoStuff. Metroid has always been praised but I never really "got it". A long time ago I remember a classmate having Super Metroid and I actually helped him advance in the game. Then I have borrowed Metroid NES which, as you say, is quite flawed. Some might like it and it has cool features but it was never for me. After watching all your videos (and the storyline similar to the Alien movies) I must say my interest for the games has risen. Very good videos you got here. As others have mentioned these videos should have much more views. I hope you get it in time!
I think people wouldn’t want this but I would really want Mercury steam to remake super Metroid and fusion I know this sounds a bit unneeded but I honestly just want the gameplay mechanics in samus returns in older games since this is the canon version of Metroid 2 and the announcement of Dread confirms this and super and fusion take place after samus returns
I plan to get to the 3D titles eventually, perhaps when we have a new Metroid game on the horizon. Though I'm unsure of whether I'll cover Federation Force or not.
I really did enjoy Samus Returns. But as a big Metroid fan that started with the original NES game, I hope we get more 2D Metroid games that play closer to Fusion and Zero Mission... not Samus Returns. I didn't really like the changes they made to the 2D formula. The counter attack seems downright silly at times, as Samus has never been a physical melee powerhouse, plus it is so overused in the game. It gets tedious to have to stop, wait, and counter literally every enemy you encounter until late game when you have more firepower.
Pure speculation here, but what if the next 2D Metroid game was a remake of Super Metroid? We already had the first 2 games remade, I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to pull that one off even if a large cluster of the fanbase would crying heresy for thinking to remake this classic game.
Great review and great series. I have enjoyed all the videos on this. I will say though, Everyone that reviews this game makes it sound like there are a lot of metroids that run away from you that you have to go find mid fight. I have played through the whole series again in the past month to get ready for Dread. There are 4 that run from you. 4 out 49 total metroids. I'm not sure why this always gets so blown out of proportion. Maybe it's the fact that all 4 of them are in the same area? I understand why people don't like these 4 fights, but I think Mercury Steam were trying to portray desperately hunting these creatures for the safety of the galaxy. They don't want to die and like real animals they run for their lives. Samus has to take chase so that none of these dangerous creatures escape from her alive. She has to be 100% sure they are all dead. I kind of like that form of story telling even though it seems to be lost on so many people.
Some people feel like the “trek back to the top” is tone deaf now that it’s full of enemies. since the original Samus Returns had it be oddly peaceful and reflective with Samus and the Baby. I wonder what everyone here thinks?
I mean it shows samus protecting the baby from danger in a way, and shows that nkw that the metroids are gone those creatures can live down there once again
At first I was a little put off by the familiar elements in this game that Mercury Steam had put in Castlevania: Lords of Shadow: Mirror of Fate. That game felt like a generic Metroidvania pretending to be a Castlevania and I was hoping Samus Returns wouldn't go the same route but thankfully the latter hasn't failed to put me in that trance-like state that all good Metroid titles do.
I wasn't expecting this video to come out this year anymore, but it came at the right time, I was looking for something to watch anyway :) Again great job with the video. You described the status of the Metroid series perfectly, so people who weren't involved can grasp how important this game was. Also good to finally hear positive things about the Ridley inclusion. I also mostly hear/read that it was unnecessary and only fanservice and so on. As for the fact that it comes out of nowhere: That's the point, he wasn't in the original game so why would they ruin the surprise by putting him into the story throughout the game? I would love another game where he is there throughout the game but for this one, this way was the best. Btw they kept him a pretty good secret, they didn't even make an amiibo of Ridley (luckily we got one for Smash now). Sadly I was spoiled before I got to him, by those anoying YT videos, that show "every boss" and stuff like that, he was right there on the thumbnail. I hate when those videos get recommended because you can't really do anything, you can't prepare, you just see the thumbnail and that's it. They really should either stop or at least have a non spoiler thumbnail for a couple of weeks or a months or so... So I knew about Ridley, but I didn't know anything about the fight and it was a blast. The remixes of his songs aren't my favourites, but otherwise it truly is the best 2D Ridley fight imo. Though there isn't much competition because the other 2D games are sprite based and that doesn't suit Ridley too well. And I hate how he has a female and human sounding voice in the GBA games. What is up with that? lol I think I prefer his 3D fights overall, though the one in Prime 1 can drag. Imo he had overall the coolest scenes and fights in Prime 3. I don't like his Other M design and the fight is anoying too. In Smash Ultimate, they nailed his design though. It seems to mostly be based on his Super Metroid design but I think he has some elements from Other M too. He has a fun moveset, so I'm happy with his first playable version :D Anyway, back to Samus returns lol. One more thing about Ridley: I like how now both remakes added a bonus Ridley fight to the end of the game, where there was none in the original. Mecha Ridley is different, but it is some kind of a Ridley. I'm not sure if Samus returns is the savior of the franchise because it came out on a dying console, and I heard the sales weren't too good. What did they expect? They really should give the series one more try on the Switch for sure. That Super Metroid remake would be probably a win if they don't mess it up somehow. But if we don't count success, I love Samus returns. It did so much well and Metroid 2 was the last Metroid game that really needed a remake anyway. It's awesome how they designed all the backgrounds too, I mean in the original there was just a blackness, but the remake is so creative with the designs. Especially that giant monster that is sometimes there and drinks water. A lets player even thought that it would become a boss at some point :D Some of the Metroid fights can get tedious and anoying, like you said and it would've been great if they could've made additional in-between stages or something, that was a great idea that you suggested. I'm glad they updated the game musicly too. That Magmoor caverns song fits nicely in the lava rooms. Funnily they say in Smash ultimate that this song is from Samus returns, although it was already there in like 2 other games lol As I said in a comment on the previos video it is also cool how they added a scene at the end, where an X shows up. Something they didn't plan for in the original, but can be connected back to fusion now. I really hope they expand on other games too like this, if we don't get actual newer games instead. It makes the series more cohesive. Btw too bad that Samus returns is the only 2D Metroid game that could take advantage of the 2 screens. I don't get why they didn't do this remake on the DS already, then we would've gotten a remake on every handheld after the first. It was nice to not have to pause the game just to look at the map and sadly even if we get games on the Switch, this feature won't return. :( I'm glad you plan on doing the 3D games too. It might even be better if you tke a break, because maybe the rumors about the Prime HD Remake are true and then it could come out at any time. And I guess that would be the most optimal way to do a retrospective on. Anyway, I'm happy about the announcement you made for the new project. I haven't played/finished all of those games, but it will be interesting to go through the Mario RPG-s. I'm especially curious about Super Paper Mario because that is the first and only Paper Mario game I own and some people hate it, others love it. I mostly love it but it does have major flaws that's sure.
First: yeah it took a bit of effort, but I managed to just barely get it out before the year ended. Second: Yeah I always thought the complaints about Ridley's inclusion were a little dumb. And even regardless of that the fight is so cool that I really couldn't care less about the complaints. It really sucks that you got spoiled like that, and I understand your pain. I also got Mario Odyssey's ending spoiled by a video popping up in my recommended, and it ruined the surprise of a really cool moment. It honestly just sucks when it happens. Third: yeah it really sucks that it was released so late in the 3DS's lifecycle. I really hope that Nintendo gives it another chance, because the circumstances it was put in weren't exactly fair. Fourth: That background enemy was really neat and I'm actually surprised it didn't come back honestly. Fifth: I'm glad someone agrees with my whole extra forms idea, because I haven't really even heard anyone suggest it. They kind of just complain about the repetitious fights and move on. Sixth:That Red Soil remix as well was absolutely gorgeous. I actually got really excited while replaying the game when I heard that, because I had forgotten it was in Samus Returns. Seventh: I'm glad you're looking forward to Super Paper Mario, as that game in specific is why I really wanted to do this marathon. (Well that and Sticker Star, but that one is for... Different reasons...) I'm really hoping it turns out well.
Yeah, there was a lot to go over with this one, so it takes a while to get to the analysis part, but that's the nature of retrospectives honestly. Sorry if it bothers you.
"RIdLEy IS jusT FaN SErvIcE!!!" Stfu, we haven't had a real metroid in almost 10 years, just appreciate this game. Its not Other M, or federation force, its real.
@@DuoStuff It's not about the fight itself being good or not, it's simply that Ridley doesn't belong in Metroid 2 and is a disservice to the original ending. It also raises a lot of questions about the time frame between the end Metroid 2 and the opening to 3. I find it hard to believe that Ridley recovered fast enough that he could immediately go to the Ceres station, kill everyone on board, steal the baby Metroid, activate a self-destruct sequence and take on Samus a second time before escaping.
@@substandardlysubpar9700 how does he not belong there? It explains why he knew of the baby metroid and it makes sense he'd go on a rampage after getting beaten by samus, taunting her and trying to make her explode with the station as revenge And i mean, it never seemed like he had to heal any injuries, from metroid to super he's jusy fine with no noticeable damage and he clearly recovered way before that as he planned the return to zebes and the capture of the baby Metroid
I'm kinda split between which Metroid 2 remake I prefer but I think I'm gonna say I would prefer the direction AM2R was going, gameplay and tone-wise But I prefer Samus Returns' overall polished mechanics and balance more. And I did enjoy the new ideas and mechanics they were trying out well. AM2R in too many ways felt a bit too loose, especially in its Metroid battles It felt like you were spending too much time trying to constantly land really difficult shots on time weak spots where Samus Returns held your hand a little more. Providing a better and more satisfying flow to the combat. Both remakes are definitely worth playing it was honestly just such a tone-deaf decision from Nintendo to shot down a project that would have given their own game a lot of hype and free PR. But, Nintendo is gonna Nintendo, I suppose :/ Still, I feel that Samus Returns was a very worthy swan song for the 3DS :)
First: I agree with you on the take about AM2R. It's a game that has a lot of cool aspects, but the combat wasn't exactly my favorite. Second: I really appreciate that you watched through all these Metroid videos. I spent a lot of time making them last year, and I was, and still am, pretty proud of them. (That being said I've improved enough lately where these are starting to feel a little less impressive.) Regardless, I hope you enjoyed the series, and I hope you enjoy my Zelda stuff as it comes out. (A Link to the Past is still a little bit away, as I want to make sure it gets a good video.)
@@DuoStuff Your retrospect was definitely a very pleasant series to binge through. It was informative, thorough, and got a lot of points across. It was clear that you had done your research :) It was top quality You you have reason to be proud of them. I will certainly be looking forward to more stuff from you.
The problem with the ridley fight is it makes Samus dumb for leaving the metroid unprotected right after the attack also in fusion they say the metroid saves Samus life twice once in super and again in fusion Also why is he robot then not a robot prime doesn't fit in cannon if you think about it
Well actually, I'd argue that's just because they literally couldn't have had the foresight while making Super Metroid to know what was going to happen in Prime. Sure, it seems a bit weird for hit to go from Meta, to Proteus, to regular Ridley, but I prefer it this way over Prime being non-canon for arbitrary reasons. If they ever remake Super Metroid, I imagine they're going to add some explanation for what happened with Ridley, or just straight up make him Proteus Ridley again. As for your issue with Samus leaving the hatchling unprotected, firstly, I'd argue it was dumb to leave it unattended even prior to now. But beyond that, Samus probably assumed that... Y'know, Ridley was dead, so it wouldn't be a problem. You got me on the twice-over thing, but honestly, you could easily say that the fight with Ridley was a lot less life-threatening than the Mother Brain fight (which legit had her basically dead) or the X infestation (which straight up would've killed her.)
Ridley shouldn’t of been there. They should make a new Metroid type with wings or something. King Metroid of some sort. Last time I checked the game barely hit 1millions in sales.. it make wonder about the fans who cried about not having a Metroid game even bought Samus returns.
I need to give this one another chance. I got about half way through before getting bored and sort of losing interest. It's not that I thought it was bad I just couldn't get it to click with me for whatever reason. I think being inundated with Metroidvanias in the indie scene over the past decade hasn't helped. I just couldn't get used to the controls either, especially the counters.
Oh yeah I guess I could've mentioned those! XD They definitely were neat this time around, but when I first played it I actually had no context for it since I was new to the series. XD
Samus Returns was a great game for sure but it wasn't on the level of Metroid Prime or Super Metroid. To be fair, those games were revolutionary and solid 10/10 games. I would rate Samus Returns as a 9/10 as it loses points for a lack of enemy variety and upgrades didn't require much exploration to find enough to be close to as powerful as you would with the most possible at that point. Compare that to Super Metroid where Ridley was almost a pushover with 40+ super missiles but was tough as nails if you didn't have many. A small amount of extra aeion and energy isn't going to make a noticeable difference against Ridley in Samus Returns.
I am hoping that Super Metroid gets the Metroid: Samus Returns treatment visually. I love the art direction and feel that it would be a perfect fit for Super Metroid.
Honestly I not the biggest fan of the melee counter. I think the fact that it is a bit overused and that it is supposed to feel satisfying makes it feel unintentionally empty Edit: except against Metroids. It is extremely satisfying to counter them
I can't relate to the happiness at Samus Returns being announced. I was sorta cool with it - but the energy was mostly from seeing how pathetic Nintendo was in shooting down AM2R, so they could have their own 2 remake. I cant HELP but prefer AM2R.
I mean if you prefer it just because it's a fan game rhat's...kinda sad Also samus returns was in development before they took down am2r, the game is too big to have been started after
...wait, people actually _LIKED_ Tropical Freeze? I recall most folks goin' on about how it sucked. As for the Metroid 2 remake...wow, I may have to clear out some space on my New 2DS XL in order to get it in there. However, with a ton of annoyance spread across Metroid 1/Zero Mission, 2, Super, & Fusion, I probably won't bother starting Samus Returns as I'm in the middle of "put it down and walk away" mode. And that's all before gettin' my mitts on Metroid Dread. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Amazing videos, I recently started playing through the Metroid series and ended up marathoning your videos Do you have any plans on going back to review AM2R? I'd love to see your opinion on it
You know, Nintendo ceased and desisted am2r after it was done and already out into the internet. It was forever in the ether now. They could of done it any time in am2r’s development. But they didn’t. I think that was Nintendo’s version of good will.
@@jess648 my point is, because samus returns took years to make, they knew they’d have to dmca am2r at some point. But they waited till it was done. Good on Nintendo for that.
Samus Returns is a much better /game/ than AM2R, but I wish it were as good at being a remake of Metroid 2 in the same way that Zero Mission was good at being a remake of the original Metroid. AM2R did a much better job of that specifically than Samus Returns did. I also wouldn't be judging Samus Returns as harshly on that count if Nintendo hadn't killed AM2R presumably for the specific purpose of pushing Samus Returns.
I mean, it is a good remake? It completely replaces metroid 2, and while am2r is more fitting in tone it has many of the same problems as the original because of it, like if i have to be honest the repetetiveness of the metroid battles, and obscure passages that lead you to the metroid needed for progression Judging the game harshly because am2r was taken down is also ridicolous Am2r is technically illegal, and the developers knee that before wasting 10 years on it. Lile, they knew it would be gone
@@Mqstodon Samus Returns completely replaces Metroid 2 in terms of plot events. It shows little if any respect or celebration for the original title. The things you describe are reasons why Samus Returns is a better GAME than Metroid 2 or AM2R, as I already noted. By throwing out basically all of the source material other than the basic premise though, it essentially doesn't even make an effort to be a remake. It didn't need to be (and probably shouldn't be) a room-for-room identical map. SOME recognizable rooms would have been nice though. You know, the same way Super Metroid, Zero Mission, and AM2R did. The fact that AM2R went ignored for 10 years until Samus Returns came along is precisely why it's fair to lay blame there. Corporate bootlicking about it changes nothing.
Nintendo should port this game to the Switch. I would totally buy it.
I honestly was hoping for a while that they'd port it. The game would've sold a lot better on Switch firstly, but also aspects like the visuals and controls would've been improved on Switch.
I would willingly re-buy it
Porting it to the Switch would probably be one of the best things to do for not only long time fans but also for bringing in new fans, at least I feel like it would be. I just know that I'd buy it in a heartbeat if they did that.
Prime 4 is coming out on switch as well as hopefully a fusion remake, it wouldn't make sense for them to port a game so obviously meant for 3DS onto switch when they already have a project(s) ready for switch
I've played through Samus Returns like 4 times or so, I would so easily rebuy it on the Switch. Metroid games are the kinds of games that are meant to be replayed.
I for sure want mercury steam to make any future 2D Metroid games, this game is proof in my eyes that they should and then retro can deal with 3D because we know how well prime has been received
I agree on that. I want to see what Mercury Steam can do with an original 2D Metroid honestly. I mean some of Samus Returns's problems were because it was still fundamentally Metroid 2, so I want to see how things go if they have complete creative freedom.
And yes, Retro should keep handling Prime. Though I hope Nintendo lets another studio make more Donkey Kong Country games then, as I also want that series to keep going on.
I would like to see Retro try their hand at 2d Metroid. They've proven their 2d bona-fides with DKC.
TrevRockOne that would be pretty nice too.
Well then... we'll get more from them in 3 and a half months.
Ask and you shall recieve
This was also my first Metroid game. Such a masterpiece...
I like that Metroid was never dead but there just wasn’t hardware to realize Sakamoto’s vision for Dread till now
This makes all the talk about Metroid being dead hilarious in retrospect
Metroid is one of Nintendo's "dead" franchises. The stability of the series is shaky but it's inevitable there'll be a new game.
"And after all that, I can't imagine just how good this felt."
*ad*
I cry everytime hearing someone saying good things about metroid
Well you may want to stick around then, because sooner or later we'll be getting to the 3D Metroid games as well. =D
@@DuoStuff yay! I was thinking of asking you about 3d metroid, so it's a good thing I saw this.
@@TheRegularHedgehog575 Yeah it'll happen. I'm not sure when exactly, but once I'm feeling that Metroid itch, then I'll be doing all the 3D games. =D
The Hype I had for this game was unreal, OI would constantly watch trailers, interviews, theory videos, and on day of release I nonstop watched the streams of mercury steam and the game director talking about it. And while I havent played this game in a while it's my 3-5th favorite. It's a close call with how amazing these games are
Never played Metroid in my life but after scouring UA-cam videos, this will be my first.
Me: expecting a series of Analysis videos on purely Paper Mario
Duo: Announces analysis videos on all Mario RPGs
"You'll never see it coming!!!"
Video was great, loved the Metroid analysis videos.
First: Yeah almost everyone who guessed either picked Paper Mario or Mario and Luigi. Legit almost no one saw it coming. XD
Second:Glad you enjoyed it. This was probably my favorite of the bunch.
My favorite way to use the Counter move is to freeze enemies and then run up and slap them. It's a 1 hit kill on most enemies you can freeze.
IMO Metroid is a series best taken in small doses. When the market is saturated in Metroid games as it was in the 00s the franchise doesn't feel as special and people take it for granted. When they are spaced farther apart it makes them feel like special events. It sucks Metroid Prime 4 is going through dev hell, the wait from Returns wasn't supposed to be this long. If it turns out good though it will feel spectacular. If it's bad... get ready for an even longer hiatus.
As far as Samus Returns goes, it was a little bittersweet to me. AM2R was so awesome that it had taken the Metroid 2 spot for me. This one felt... I dunno, overproduced maybe? It's good don't get me wrong, but AM2R felt so much more like what I would have personally expected out of a M2 remake. Samus Returns is so different it is really it's own thing. A good thing though! At first I thought it would have been much better if it weren't a remake but a whole new game, but looking at it from an official release perspective I see that it holds a good spot in the lineup as AM2R is unofficial and not on most people's radar so they need a modern take on M2. I'm happy we got it.
Edit: good videos dude, thanks for the content.
Been watching a lot of Metroid stuff since Dread. This was a great retrospective
This was a wonderful series to truly watch all the wat through.
I'm glad you enjoyed it dude. Hoping you enjoy the next one even more. =D
I know you posted these a while back, but these game review vids are really spectacular, shame it hasn’t blown up yet. Thank you!
Honestly compared to when they were released, they have done WAY better. The first week I released this one it got 200 views, and now it's at 10,000 almost. I'm really happy so many people have enjoyed it. =D
DuoStuff you deserve it man! Keep up the good work
Did you drink some editing secret energetic? I'm really glad to see another Metroid video so fast
Actually, I had intended to release this about 2 days ago, so if anything it's a little late. Still much faster than the gaps between the first three Metroid videos though. Hope you enjoyed the video. =D
I still want a post fusion game...maybe where Samus as a Fugitive and has to work with the Space Pirates against a bigger threat. “Samus and the Space Pirate’s Curse” if you will.
(That’s referencing how in Shantae and the Pirate’s curse she has to work with her nemesis against a bigger threat)
Samus Returns crawled so Dread could flash shift 😎😎
I first played Super Metroid back in high school in roughly 2013, and always meant to play the rest but just never had the time. Then Terminalmontage released his Something about Super Metroid video and I finally played Zero Mission, Samus Returns, Super again and Fusion. Each time I finished a game I would watch your video covering the respective ones. Your series is an absolute joy and it really made me appreciate the Metroid franchise even more, it's given me an even greater appreciation of the Metroid series beyond just being really fun games.
Video: "Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to my Game Over analysis of Metroid: Samus Returns!"
Me: "It's been 9 minutes... I legit checked the video title 30 seconds ago to make sure I clicked the right video"
The 3d was great on this and really added to the atmosphere.
I dunno why, but I can't shake the feeling that this video and your entire metroid series was heavily inspired by The Geek Critique.
People recommended the original Metroid to start with?! What jerks 😂 You should always start with Metroid Zero Mission. It’s an overhauled remake of the original with more lore and way easier to get into. I’d say Zero Mission, Samus Returns and then Super Metroid is the proper order.
Only hardcore players should do that. Most people would drop the series if they did that.
I'd say start with Super. Because after playing Zero Mission or Fusion the old controls are SO cumbersome. I'd almost rather play the original Metroid.
Dude omg your video is so high quality! How do have so few views and subscribers?
Thank you! I try to make the videos as good as possible. Hopefully one day I get some more viewers though. =D
It makes me so happy that I'm not the only one who actually likes this game.
And here we are, with Dread on Switch!
I got into Metroid two years ago thanks to the original Metroid II, so it's cool that its remake was what got you interested in the series as well! When I first played Metroid II, the repetition of the Metroid battles and the linearity of the map were exactly what I needed to get a grip on the game and not get lost! After watching your review, I wonder if the lack of enemy variety (which I'm still a bit iffy about) and the constant use of the melee counter (which I really like!) were intentionally made for new players for similar reasons. If so, some of the ways Samus Returns is set up make a lot more sense!
Anyway, I thought Samus Returns was a fantastic remake! The Diggernaut and Ridley fights were some of my favorite additions! Great review, dude!
That's actually rather interesting that you started with Metroid 2. While I liked it a decent amount, a lot of people I talk to said it was too archaic. (I don't really agree.) But yeah, besides lacking a map, its format is actually great for getting into Metroid.
And also, your points about Samus Returns is actually really interesting. Those might've been added purely to appeal to newcomers like me. Anyways, glad you enjoyed my video. =D
Man I binge watched this metroid series you created here because it was done so well. This after just completing zero mission and fusion for the first time this last week (just for reference sake I played and beaten almost all the other games in the series including the recent Dread). Suffice to say I'm a HUGE metroid fan, and I would love to hear your take on Dread as well. But the work you have done thus far is very solid and I applaud your effort. 👏
Well I'm glad you enjoyed the project. I will say, however, that Dread is unlikely to be covered. I've completely changed styles/formats since I did these videos, and I don't think a random Dread video would fit with my current direction. Sorry about that!
@@DuoStuff no worries I completely understand, as I just stumbled across your videos recently. They were a pleasure to watch. Wish you all the success life can afford ❤.
Off topic, has nothing to do with your review but part of the series itself. People seem to forget that Fusion introduced an "air dodge" move that allowed you to flip out of the way if you accidentally did a standard jump near a boss. This was brought over into Samus Returns.
And now Metroid Dread is coming out in just a couple of weeks! So stoked for it! Metroid 5 baby! I know it's gonna be good already because it's been developed by the same team who did Samus Returns!
Ive found your channel on recomended section, and i watched everysingle one of your metroid videos in one sitting, subbed ^^
I honestly really appreciate it. I worked hard on these, and I always appreciate when people watch all of them. =D
@@DuoStuff your channel is really great, youre doing a killer job, i would argue your keeping a quality toe to toe with arlo. Keep the good work :D
As a sugestion i would love to see a a review on the paper mario series, specialy the 2 old ones, 64 and Thousand year door.
I am actually playing through 64 right now for footage. (Though its video won't be out for a bit.) I intend to get to each one of the Paper Mario games, but because they're so dense and I have so much to say about each one, there will be a gap between each PM video.
@@DuoStuff thats great to hear! Take yor time on the video, ill watch when you post it :)
This is a seriously underrated UA-cam channel
Ikr? Just stumbled onto it a day or two ago and binged all of these Metroid videos. So much of what he says relates to what I think about the games. Looking forward to watching his other videos.
Watched all the videos & had a blast seeing your progression into the Metroid series. Would love to see you review Dread eventually & hear your thoughts on it!
I got into the series back in Middle School with Prime and Fusion in 2002. Ever since then I've been a lifelong fan. I can't emphasize how important E3 2017 was.
I think you covered it pretty well
Wow this series has been so satisfying to watch. And all those feelings you were talking about with Metroid fans at the beginning? You hit the nail on the head. Still upset Nintendo doesn't know how to make shoulder buttons so I've never been able to beat the game. What I have I've loved, and damn that Ridley fight makes me want to go out and buy a new 3DS so I can play through it! I'd love to see you do these for the other games, maybe around Prime 4's release. Whatever the case, this has been an awesome series and I'm so glad to see this series getting the respect it deserves with such well done critiques.
Also, at least I was 1/3 of the way there with guessing the next series. Super excited for it, I should probably finish Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario in anticipation. Keep being awesome, Duo!
I'm glad to hear that. I've loved making these Metroid videos a whole lot, and I always look forward to your comments. Also I would highly recommend giving it another shot. While Samus Returns isn't my absolute favorite of the 2D games (I like Fusion and Zero Mission more) it's still really cool.
As far as the other games go, I fully intend to finish it up at some point, maybe even next year. My plan is to cover all the 3D games next time I get around to this series, with Prime 1-3, Hunters (which no one talks about for some reason), Other M, and Federation Force. If any other 2D or 3D games release in that time I'll also cover them.
Glad you're excited about the Mario RPG Series. I've been really excited about covering all of them, especially certain ones. And considering one of those important ones is Super Paper Mario, it definitely wouldn't be a bad idea to play it. ;)
Why is this literally not having thousands of views?
Your voice sounds like it would.
Is this some kind of fail at advertising yourself?
It's not your fault.
I appreciate the compliment. I'm honestly just happy when someone watches this video at all. It's definitely one of the best videos I've ever made. =D
I agree 100% His voice sounds like a voice of a big channel and the quality of these videos are amazing
Hi I'm watching now
Your videos are so good! I predict a flood of views and likes!!
I feel like MercurySteam gave hope to Nintendo, not just when they made a remake of Metroid 2, but also because MercurySteam revived Metroid Dread; which is now a highly anticipated game by many Metroid fans and other people that play metroidvanias. The Metroid franchise got a lot of fans when Metroid Dread was announced which hopefully will bring more light to this franchise as well as Nintendo putting more money and focus on Metroid games instead of just ignoring the franchise for years as is has been before.
I was very sad when Samus Returns came out because my 3DS broke 5 days before the game came out.
I’m one of the few Metroid fans that actually enjoyed Metroid Other M.
Same here, it is flawed but far from the disaster it is painted as. I hope he gets to play and review it as well in the future given how it is part of the 2D story.
It's not a bad game, the story is just tantamount to character assassination.
This was so good in 3D
You should really make a video on Metroid Dread. It is awesome! The 3 prime games would be crazy to see aswell.
Good vid:)
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! =D
Ready for the Dread video?
Indeed I am. It'll probably be a month after the game comes out before I actually can do it. (I gotta play it first, y'know? XD)
Also I should note that my editing style has changed quite dramatically since these Metroid videos, so it'll definitely feel very different.
I personally am not a fan of the melee counter. It doesn't hurt the game too much, but there is a significant lack of variety in enemy attack patterns and I think the melee counter is to blame. At least 80% of them just charge you and the most effective way to deal with them is to counter, likely by design. You can shoot them from afar if you want, but I'm pretty sure enemies take more damage after being countered. Not to mention some enemies have extra defenses in place that you circumvent by stunning them with the counter.
honestly, i think super smash Bros is the only thing that kept samus not forgotten
The best part is that you can actually walljump in this game.
Fusion walljump 🤮
7:06 who the hell told you to start with the original NES Metroid? That's the worst advice I've ever heard, and I'm a huge Metroid fan
im a sorta new metroid fan i think fusion is the best game to start with
You should make a video on Metroid: Dread. I played the demo on my Switch and it was really cool.
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"Hello? Is that DuoStuff? Yes this is October 8th 2021 calling; And Good news! We have a new Metroid for you to talk about..."
"And you're gonna dread it..."
Lol I do plan to get to it, but I'm currently taking a break from UA-cam to work on a mod. So it'll be a bit.
@@DuoStuff No problemo, Take your time & take it easy. There's no harm in waiting; Just like game development
I just recently beat this game on fusion mode and geez that was brutal
The difficulty or you getting a Metroid amiibo?
Oh my God, somebody finally says it: Samus Returns Ridley fight is the best one in the series. Also, honestly a lot of the other boss fights are near the top for me, too. This game has like a near perfect difficulty balance, where the combat feels a lot tougher this time around but you still slowly get better at it. Finally taking down the Diggernaut after a lot of fails was super satisfying the first time around, and I love how its lurking in the background all the time. Also, unrelated, but did you try using the 3d in this game? I know most people dislike the 3ds's 3d, but I will say that this game has probably some of the best 3d on the system, the backgrounds look fantastic with it on. Anyway, I got through all of your Metroid videos and they were really cool, thanks for making them!
Let someone from the era clear something up for you. I grew up with these games. What was meant by "Metroid is Dead" was that the original metroid was not ever going to have an 8-bit sequel the original fanboy wanted. With nothing improved or added just continued storyline and additional exploration without any type of leading hand affect. After that many releases the hope was dead for that possibility.
It is sad just how much is lost in translation over the years.
Did you knew that it's actually possible to beat each of the beat before they run away? It's kind of a challenge, in itself.
Great video! I’m also a newer fan of Metroid (it was the Prime Trilogy that did it for me) and I also love SR. I think some older fans are overly hard on it, while I find newer fans tend to really enjoy it!
Hey, just finished up marathoning your entire Metroid series over my morning jog! Before I get into Samus Returns, gotta say you did very well on all the videos, and I found it funny that your views coincide with a lot of mine on the Metroid series at large. (The story of Prime and Fusion, the games that got me into it in the first place, being my big draw)
As for this game, a lot of people prefer AM2R, and I get why, but this game packs a whole lot of stuff in it that ticks a lot of my personal boxes that AM2R unfortunately doesn't even remotely do for me, not the least of which is one that I think separates Metroid from its fellows in the game industry.
That of course being Metroid's sheer, wild ambition with each new entry. Each game in the series throws caution to the wind in what it wants to achieve with each entry, never wanting to be the exact same as the last. Metroid Fusion easily could've been just another Super like most would expect, but instead turned the expectations on its head to make Super Metroid's very specter one of its themes. AM2R, for as good as it is in so many ways (I have minor nitpicks I'll probably bring up when you get there), very much feels like Zero Mission But Metroid 2, and that leaves it with something of a lack of identity of its own in some respects.
Samus Returns meanwhile stands out for its complete lack of fear in challenging its own series conventions in places, trying new things in the design, when it very easily could've played it safe, and given the series hiatus, might have been the logical choice for most. But Mercury Steam and Sakamoto (who produced this game and thus basically oversaw every aspect of their design and implementation, contrary to what many may assume) didn't play it safe and made my third favorite game of 2017 easily right behind Breath of the Wild and Sonic Mania.
What I find best about the game beyond anything else though is what it does with the incentive of 100% completion. While the others games largely just gave you a different ending pose/art as your reward, which is fine, Samus Returns takes advantage of Metroid 2's segmented areas by putting a full completion bonus with each one giving you a piece of art detailing the backstory of the Chozo on SR388, creating the Metroids to combat the X Parasites, and the Metroids' mutation into something they could no longer control (due to the very energy of the new Aeion powers which drew them there in the first place no less!) And the reward for 100% completion, well....
That actually ties somewhat into Metroid's future, which is a little cryptic given Sakamoto's relative radio silence by and large as a game designer. However, in 2018, a full year after Samus Returns, Sakamoto did an interview with a Spanish video game website (which you can read some translated highlights on this Resetera thread www.resetera.com/threads/interview-with-yoshio-sakamoto-regarding-metroid-samus-returns.56925/) in which he detailed some thoughts on the game's development, including being unable to make a new game after Other M due to the team splitting off to other projects, working with Mercury Steam, and others. The line that intrigues me most though is the tease about Samus Returns' 100% completion reward, the final image teasing about what could be coming next. They have their eye on what comes next for Metroid, and to me that reads like a when, not if, proposition. Similarly from what I hear Metroid Samus Returns sold well within expectations for it, so I don't think we have anything to fear about Metroid going dark like before.
And when that day comes, I look forward to seeing you cover it!
Nintendo really should put Zero Mission, Samus Returns, Super and Fusion on switch cartridge and put the Prime Series on another one. I know I would buy both.
Oh damn the reminiscence themes from Ace Attorney are a great touch
Really glad someone pointed that out. =D
I always hated "Metroid fans" being bitter about DKC Tropical Freeze, one of my favourite games ever.
Oh man Tropical Freeze is freaking magical.
Can we get at some point a video about the pokemon mystery dungeon series?
I actually wouldn't be against that in the future, though mainly because of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky, as I really love that one. (Also played Red/Blue Rescue Team and Super Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, but not Gates to Infinity for some reason.) For now though, the next marathon is focused on the Mario RPGs, so I hope you enjoy that too.
Yay! :)
DuoStuff Duo is an Explorers fan?
This...does bring a smile to my face.
They had been telling stories for years. One would think they could give a nice origin story for Samus. I mean, like, having Samus as a young woman who wasn't that bada** yet and you watch her transformation into that stoic bounty hunter as you play a game would be an epic game to play.
This history lesson is deep...
Yeah there was quite a lot in the lead up to this game's release. Hope it was a fun history lesson at least.
i played both AM2R and the Nintendo Remake. and i must say AM2R is Much Much Better in my eyes than the Nintendo Remake
Same. The Remake sure looks amazing and detailed, but it also strips away most of the identity that was metroid 2. Also I can't stand the input controls of Samus Returns, but maybe my fingers are just too fat.
@@CathrineMacNiel how does it strip away the identity?
Meh, i disagree
Am2r is good but ultimately mediocre in my eyes
@@Mqstodon just take the ending of Metroid 2 as an example. After killing the Queen and the hatching of the baby the music becomes serene and the winding paths surfaceside invites samus and you to reflect on the events, where as samus returns just keeps going, enemies everywhere and then the most stupid way of inserting a non sensible fan service in the form of a ridley battle. Which then begs the question why did samus went straight to ceres when ridley was following her?
Am2r respected the original idea, and its beautiful.
Honestly this is what I feel like with the Sonic community is just by watching the first part of the video
Also you forgot the secret ending
Would love if you did an analysis of AM2R even though it's not an official release I think you'd enjoy it as well as it making good content
I am like you was DuoStuff. Metroid has always been praised but I never really "got it". A long time ago I remember a classmate having Super Metroid and I actually helped him advance in the game. Then I have borrowed Metroid NES which, as you say, is quite flawed. Some might like it and it has cool features but it was never for me. After watching all your videos (and the storyline similar to the Alien movies) I must say my interest for the games has risen. Very good videos you got here. As others have mentioned these videos should have much more views. I hope you get it in time!
I think people wouldn’t want this but I would really want Mercury steam to remake super Metroid and fusion I know this sounds a bit unneeded but I honestly just want the gameplay mechanics in samus returns in older games since this is the canon version of Metroid 2 and the announcement of Dread confirms this and super and fusion take place after samus returns
Please do meteoroid dread when it comes out
That is the plan actually. Give me a month after it comes out though. XD
You should do all the prime games next (yes even hunters and federation force) and maybe other m after those!
I plan to get to the 3D titles eventually, perhaps when we have a new Metroid game on the horizon. Though I'm unsure of whether I'll cover Federation Force or not.
I really did enjoy Samus Returns. But as a big Metroid fan that started with the original NES game, I hope we get more 2D Metroid games that play closer to Fusion and Zero Mission... not Samus Returns. I didn't really like the changes they made to the 2D formula. The counter attack seems downright silly at times, as Samus has never been a physical melee powerhouse, plus it is so overused in the game. It gets tedious to have to stop, wait, and counter literally every enemy you encounter until late game when you have more firepower.
Did you even watch the video?
Now I kinda wanna know about super metroid getting remade lol
Soo… the Metroids in this game are like boom boom from Mario 3?
Pure speculation here, but what if the next 2D Metroid game was a remake of Super Metroid? We already had the first 2 games remade, I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to pull that one off even if a large cluster of the fanbase would crying heresy for thinking to remake this classic game.
I prefer the fact that we're finally getting Dread, but I would be down for a Super Metroid remake mainly for some quality of life improvements.
Great review and great series. I have enjoyed all the videos on this. I will say though, Everyone that reviews this game makes it sound like there are a lot of metroids that run away from you that you have to go find mid fight. I have played through the whole series again in the past month to get ready for Dread. There are 4 that run from you. 4 out 49 total metroids. I'm not sure why this always gets so blown out of proportion. Maybe it's the fact that all 4 of them are in the same area? I understand why people don't like these 4 fights, but I think Mercury Steam were trying to portray desperately hunting these creatures for the safety of the galaxy. They don't want to die and like real animals they run for their lives. Samus has to take chase so that none of these dangerous creatures escape from her alive. She has to be 100% sure they are all dead. I kind of like that form of story telling even though it seems to be lost on so many people.
Some people feel like the “trek back to the top” is tone deaf now that it’s full of enemies. since the original Samus Returns had it be oddly peaceful and reflective with Samus and the Baby. I wonder what everyone here thinks?
I mean it shows samus protecting the baby from danger in a way, and shows that nkw that the metroids are gone those creatures can live down there once again
Honestly would love a collection Ported to switch.
Bro me too. I'd love more people to play Samus Returns. (And also to play Samus Returns in HD.)
At first I was a little put off by the familiar elements in this game that Mercury Steam had put in Castlevania: Lords of Shadow: Mirror of Fate. That game felt like a generic Metroidvania pretending to be a Castlevania and I was hoping Samus Returns wouldn't go the same route but thankfully the latter hasn't failed to put me in that trance-like state that all good Metroid titles do.
I wasn't expecting this video to come out this year anymore, but it came at the right time, I was looking for something to watch anyway :)
Again great job with the video. You described the status of the Metroid series perfectly, so people who weren't involved can grasp how important this game was. Also good to finally hear positive things about the Ridley inclusion. I also mostly hear/read that it was unnecessary and only fanservice and so on. As for the fact that it comes out of nowhere: That's the point, he wasn't in the original game so why would they ruin the surprise by putting him into the story throughout the game? I would love another game where he is there throughout the game but for this one, this way was the best. Btw they kept him a pretty good secret, they didn't even make an amiibo of Ridley (luckily we got one for Smash now). Sadly I was spoiled before I got to him, by those anoying YT videos, that show "every boss" and stuff like that, he was right there on the thumbnail. I hate when those videos get recommended because you can't really do anything, you can't prepare, you just see the thumbnail and that's it. They really should either stop or at least have a non spoiler thumbnail for a couple of weeks or a months or so...
So I knew about Ridley, but I didn't know anything about the fight and it was a blast. The remixes of his songs aren't my favourites, but otherwise it truly is the best 2D Ridley fight imo. Though there isn't much competition because the other 2D games are sprite based and that doesn't suit Ridley too well. And I hate how he has a female and human sounding voice in the GBA games. What is up with that? lol
I think I prefer his 3D fights overall, though the one in Prime 1 can drag. Imo he had overall the coolest scenes and fights in Prime 3. I don't like his Other M design and the fight is anoying too. In Smash Ultimate, they nailed his design though. It seems to mostly be based on his Super Metroid design but I think he has some elements from Other M too. He has a fun moveset, so I'm happy with his first playable version :D
Anyway, back to Samus returns lol. One more thing about Ridley: I like how now both remakes added a bonus Ridley fight to the end of the game, where there was none in the original. Mecha Ridley is different, but it is some kind of a Ridley.
I'm not sure if Samus returns is the savior of the franchise because it came out on a dying console, and I heard the sales weren't too good. What did they expect? They really should give the series one more try on the Switch for sure. That Super Metroid remake would be probably a win if they don't mess it up somehow.
But if we don't count success, I love Samus returns. It did so much well and Metroid 2 was the last Metroid game that really needed a remake anyway. It's awesome how they designed all the backgrounds too, I mean in the original there was just a blackness, but the remake is so creative with the designs. Especially that giant monster that is sometimes there and drinks water. A lets player even thought that it would become a boss at some point :D
Some of the Metroid fights can get tedious and anoying, like you said and it would've been great if they could've made additional in-between stages or something, that was a great idea that you suggested.
I'm glad they updated the game musicly too. That Magmoor caverns song fits nicely in the lava rooms. Funnily they say in Smash ultimate that this song is from Samus returns, although it was already there in like 2 other games lol
As I said in a comment on the previos video it is also cool how they added a scene at the end, where an X shows up. Something they didn't plan for in the original, but can be connected back to fusion now. I really hope they expand on other games too like this, if we don't get actual newer games instead. It makes the series more cohesive.
Btw too bad that Samus returns is the only 2D Metroid game that could take advantage of the 2 screens. I don't get why they didn't do this remake on the DS already, then we would've gotten a remake on every handheld after the first. It was nice to not have to pause the game just to look at the map and sadly even if we get games on the Switch, this feature won't return. :( I'm glad you plan on doing the 3D games too. It might even be better if you tke a break, because maybe the rumors about the Prime HD Remake are true and then it could come out at any time. And I guess that would be the most optimal way to do a retrospective on.
Anyway, I'm happy about the announcement you made for the new project. I haven't played/finished all of those games, but it will be interesting to go through the Mario RPG-s. I'm especially curious about Super Paper Mario because that is the first and only Paper Mario game I own and some people hate it, others love it. I mostly love it but it does have major flaws that's sure.
First: yeah it took a bit of effort, but I managed to just barely get it out before the year ended.
Second: Yeah I always thought the complaints about Ridley's inclusion were a little dumb. And even regardless of that the fight is so cool that I really couldn't care less about the complaints. It really sucks that you got spoiled like that, and I understand your pain. I also got Mario Odyssey's ending spoiled by a video popping up in my recommended, and it ruined the surprise of a really cool moment. It honestly just sucks when it happens.
Third: yeah it really sucks that it was released so late in the 3DS's lifecycle. I really hope that Nintendo gives it another chance, because the circumstances it was put in weren't exactly fair.
Fourth: That background enemy was really neat and I'm actually surprised it didn't come back honestly.
Fifth: I'm glad someone agrees with my whole extra forms idea, because I haven't really even heard anyone suggest it. They kind of just complain about the repetitious fights and move on.
Sixth:That Red Soil remix as well was absolutely gorgeous. I actually got really excited while replaying the game when I heard that, because I had forgotten it was in Samus Returns.
Seventh: I'm glad you're looking forward to Super Paper Mario, as that game in specific is why I really wanted to do this marathon. (Well that and Sticker Star, but that one is for... Different reasons...) I'm really hoping it turns out well.
The intro stoped at 9:00 that was a long intro wow
Yeah, there was a lot to go over with this one, so it takes a while to get to the analysis part, but that's the nature of retrospectives honestly. Sorry if it bothers you.
@@DuoStuff no that's fine I like it keep up the good work
"RIdLEy IS jusT FaN SErvIcE!!!" Stfu, we haven't had a real metroid in almost 10 years, just appreciate this game. Its not Other M, or federation force, its real.
Dude for real. I really don't understand why it got so much backlash. It was an awesome fight.
@@DuoStuff It's not about the fight itself being good or not, it's simply that Ridley doesn't belong in Metroid 2 and is a disservice to the original ending. It also raises a lot of questions about the time frame between the end Metroid 2 and the opening to 3. I find it hard to believe that Ridley recovered fast enough that he could immediately go to the Ceres station, kill everyone on board, steal the baby Metroid, activate a self-destruct sequence and take on Samus a second time before escaping.
@@substandardlysubpar9700 how does he not belong there? It explains why he knew of the baby metroid and it makes sense he'd go on a rampage after getting beaten by samus, taunting her and trying to make her explode with the station as revenge
And i mean, it never seemed like he had to heal any injuries, from metroid to super he's jusy fine with no noticeable damage and he clearly recovered way before that as he planned the return to zebes and the capture of the baby Metroid
I'm kinda split between which Metroid 2 remake I prefer but I think I'm gonna say
I would prefer the direction AM2R was going, gameplay and tone-wise
But I prefer Samus Returns' overall polished mechanics and balance more. And I did enjoy the new ideas and mechanics they were trying out well.
AM2R in too many ways felt a bit too loose, especially in its Metroid battles
It felt like you were spending too much time trying to constantly land really difficult shots on time weak spots where Samus Returns held your hand a little more. Providing a better and more satisfying flow to the combat.
Both remakes are definitely worth playing it was honestly just such a tone-deaf decision from Nintendo to shot down a project that would have given their own game a lot of hype and free PR.
But, Nintendo is gonna Nintendo, I suppose :/
Still, I feel that Samus Returns was a very worthy swan song for the 3DS :)
First: I agree with you on the take about AM2R. It's a game that has a lot of cool aspects, but the combat wasn't exactly my favorite.
Second: I really appreciate that you watched through all these Metroid videos. I spent a lot of time making them last year, and I was, and still am, pretty proud of them. (That being said I've improved enough lately where these are starting to feel a little less impressive.) Regardless, I hope you enjoyed the series, and I hope you enjoy my Zelda stuff as it comes out. (A Link to the Past is still a little bit away, as I want to make sure it gets a good video.)
@@DuoStuff Your retrospect was definitely a very pleasant series to binge through. It was informative, thorough, and got a lot of points across. It was clear that you had done your research :)
It was top quality
You you have reason to be proud of them.
I will certainly be looking forward to more stuff from you.
I've always felt like Samus Returns is better as a game, while AM2R is better as a remake.
The problem with the ridley fight is it makes Samus dumb for leaving the metroid unprotected right after the attack also in fusion they say the metroid saves Samus life twice once in super and again in fusion
Also why is he robot then not a robot prime doesn't fit in cannon if you think about it
Well actually, I'd argue that's just because they literally couldn't have had the foresight while making Super Metroid to know what was going to happen in Prime.
Sure, it seems a bit weird for hit to go from Meta, to Proteus, to regular Ridley, but I prefer it this way over Prime being non-canon for arbitrary reasons. If they ever remake Super Metroid, I imagine they're going to add some explanation for what happened with Ridley, or just straight up make him Proteus Ridley again.
As for your issue with Samus leaving the hatchling unprotected, firstly, I'd argue it was dumb to leave it unattended even prior to now. But beyond that, Samus probably assumed that... Y'know, Ridley was dead, so it wouldn't be a problem.
You got me on the twice-over thing, but honestly, you could easily say that the fight with Ridley was a lot less life-threatening than the Mother Brain fight (which legit had her basically dead) or the X infestation (which straight up would've killed her.)
Ridley shouldn’t of been there. They should make a new Metroid type with wings or something. King Metroid of some sort. Last time I checked the game barely hit 1millions in sales.. it make wonder about the fans who cried about not having a Metroid game even bought Samus returns.
I need to give this one another chance. I got about half way through before getting bored and sort of losing interest. It's not that I thought it was bad I just couldn't get it to click with me for whatever reason. I think being inundated with Metroidvanias in the indie scene over the past decade hasn't helped. I just couldn't get used to the controls either, especially the counters.
Did you check out the Chozo Memories that are in the game? If you're a fan of the lore of the series, they are definitely worth checking out!
Oh yeah I guess I could've mentioned those! XD They definitely were neat this time around, but when I first played it I actually had no context for it since I was new to the series. XD
DuoStuff Take a second look now that you’re more familiar with the lore. They are pretty cool! I loved them, especially the last one :)
Samus Returns was a great game for sure but it wasn't on the level of Metroid Prime or Super Metroid. To be fair, those games were revolutionary and solid 10/10 games. I would rate Samus Returns as a 9/10 as it loses points for a lack of enemy variety and upgrades didn't require much exploration to find enough to be close to as powerful as you would with the most possible at that point. Compare that to Super Metroid where Ridley was almost a pushover with 40+ super missiles but was tough as nails if you didn't have many. A small amount of extra aeion and energy isn't going to make a noticeable difference against Ridley in Samus Returns.
yoooooo wen dread review?
I am hoping that Super Metroid gets the Metroid: Samus Returns treatment visually. I love the art direction and feel that it would be a perfect fit for Super Metroid.
Honestly I not the biggest fan of the melee counter. I think the fact that it is a bit overused and that it is supposed to feel satisfying makes it feel unintentionally empty
Edit: except against Metroids. It is extremely satisfying to counter them
uhh I'm pretty sure we still say metroid is dead
aside from smash of course.
and the only thing we got was...
a remake
I mean there is Metroid Prime 4 on the horizon, and there's no telling if we're getting another Metroid game developed by Mercury Steam.
I can't relate to the happiness at Samus Returns being announced. I was sorta cool with it - but the energy was mostly from seeing how pathetic Nintendo was in shooting down AM2R, so they could have their own 2 remake. I cant HELP but prefer AM2R.
AM2R lived on and is being updated by the fans
I mean if you prefer it just because it's a fan game rhat's...kinda sad
Also samus returns was in development before they took down am2r, the game is too big to have been started after
I like Metroid prime to however the 2d Metroid games are my favorite
The first Metroid 2 on the gameboy was confusing and nearly unplayable without a guide.
I didn't have much trouble personally, but I can understand it.
...wait, people actually _LIKED_ Tropical Freeze? I recall most folks goin' on about how it sucked.
As for the Metroid 2 remake...wow, I may have to clear out some space on my New 2DS XL in order to get it in there. However, with a ton of annoyance spread across Metroid 1/Zero Mission, 2, Super, & Fusion, I probably won't bother starting Samus Returns as I'm in the middle of "put it down and walk away" mode. And that's all before gettin' my mitts on Metroid Dread. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
This game introduced me to the metroid series too. I haven't ever finished a Metroid game sadly, but I love the series nonetheless.
Amazing videos, I recently started playing through the Metroid series and ended up marathoning your videos
Do you have any plans on going back to review AM2R? I'd love to see your opinion on it
Would love to see your opinions on the aforementioned AM2R
You know, Nintendo ceased and desisted am2r after it was done and already out into the internet. It was forever in the ether now. They could of done it any time in am2r’s development. But they didn’t. I think that was Nintendo’s version of good will.
nintendo struck AM2R because it competed with Samus Returns (I mean it wasn’t announced when it was DMCA’d but still)
@@jess648 my point is, because samus returns took years to make, they knew they’d have to dmca am2r at some point. But they waited till it was done. Good on Nintendo for that.
Samus Returns is a much better /game/ than AM2R, but I wish it were as good at being a remake of Metroid 2 in the same way that Zero Mission was good at being a remake of the original Metroid. AM2R did a much better job of that specifically than Samus Returns did. I also wouldn't be judging Samus Returns as harshly on that count if Nintendo hadn't killed AM2R presumably for the specific purpose of pushing Samus Returns.
I mean, it is a good remake?
It completely replaces metroid 2, and while am2r is more fitting in tone it has many of the same problems as the original because of it, like if i have to be honest the repetetiveness of the metroid battles, and obscure passages that lead you to the metroid needed for progression
Judging the game harshly because am2r was taken down is also ridicolous
Am2r is technically illegal, and the developers knee that before wasting 10 years on it. Lile, they knew it would be gone
@@Mqstodon Samus Returns completely replaces Metroid 2 in terms of plot events. It shows little if any respect or celebration for the original title. The things you describe are reasons why Samus Returns is a better GAME than Metroid 2 or AM2R, as I already noted. By throwing out basically all of the source material other than the basic premise though, it essentially doesn't even make an effort to be a remake. It didn't need to be (and probably shouldn't be) a room-for-room identical map. SOME recognizable rooms would have been nice though. You know, the same way Super Metroid, Zero Mission, and AM2R did.
The fact that AM2R went ignored for 10 years until Samus Returns came along is precisely why it's fair to lay blame there. Corporate bootlicking about it changes nothing.