150 days sober for first time in my life and for the most part loving it, living in a sober state of mind is a lot fuller life and meaningful. It’s tuff at times but well worth it
Congratulations! I’m almost 50 and one of the best days of my mom’s, sisters and my life was when my dad stopped drinking when I was a kid. Drinking affects yours friends and family too. Good luck!!
I am 3 years sober from alcohol today after a 20 year addiction. You will discover and tap into potential you currently only believe would be a super power or powers. Successes in your life become byproducts of your abstinence from alcohol. It’s amazing.
i've had a long and difficult journey to get clean and so I used to find some appreciation for what jordan Peterson said, but I do have reservations because he talks so much about the negatives of alcohol and how he decided to quit. except he just replaced his own issues with alcohol with benzos, drugs that notoriously mimic the effects of alcohol, some may argue they're far worse. though you're significantly less likely to wake up with crippling regret, or in jail. I still fiind how he talks negatively about people who drink and the reasons for it disrespectful in how his words are deceptive with intention and blatantly narcissistic.
I get the alcohol stimulant effect to where I can toss back 8-12 strong IPAs well into 3am, when I normally get sleepy sober around 10pm. A 5 hour stimulant effect well beyond that usual bedtime, but there is a hard crash eventually which usually means falling asleep in a chair. I notice a tremendous improvement in motivation and reduced adhd with merely 7 days sober, but 30 seems to make "everything" easier to tolerate just naturally. Stress tolerance is massively improved with sobriety.
I found some interesting (in a good way) mood changes after a year of sobriety. I found I started being less angry about everything. Some of the anxiety that I thought I was drinking to alleviate is now gone.
This sums me up exactly. When I realized I was always the last one awake and last one to stop drinking at parties/events it proved my problem and made me realize there's absolutely nothing normal about drinking.
I find myself just wanting to drink when I'm bored and only on weekends (when I don't have work the next day). Just don't know how to stop the "feeling" of wanting to have some beers (which then turns in to 10) before I pass out as you mentioned. I can generally go 2 weeks but then I get a strong craving to have some. Any advice?
Yeh I take antidepressants too and like you say dealing with life's stressor like people etc. is much easier the longer stay off the stuff. I also find exercise I'd very helpful especially gym work
I’m 37 caring for my disabled veteran mother and her disabled brother while preparing to propose to the woman of my dreams and become a first time homebuyer. We all start somewhere, this is my new chapter. I’m starting my journey tomorrow, Peterson has changed my life. I’d say today but I’m drinking watching this. Seeing everyone here in the comments on their path has been inspiring.
Haven't touched a drink since 0:00 AM, 01.01.2024. The only New Year's resolution that I followed through. The only one I've ever made actually. Hmm, there might be something there. Specifying the date on which you will change something in yourself for the better. Jordan helped at lot, by the way!
Some people can moderately handle it and some can’t. You have to decide what is most important in your life and if eliminating it will make your life better.
Alcohol has an important place in life. Would've saved my life at age 18. But now at 40, I gotta quit. Sober for like 3 weeks now, don't miss it. (Because circumstances in my life are changing too. If your life doesn't change, then yes, it's REALLY hard.) JP is absolutely right - I was GOOD at drinking! Almost never did anything embarrassing, never got sick. It showed off my mental stability! But whatever, now that I'm older, I just know that it slides into a loop of drinking everyday, and I don't want to waste my time anymore....
I had my last drink on March 22nd this year. Wasn’t a daily drinker or anything, just wasn’t “my best self” while drinking, and it isn’t healthy. So I decided to see how not drinking goes and honestly I haven’t had a single regret since quitting and that’s a first lol
I understand where JBP is coming from, and I'm sure for a vast number of people it's true. On the other hand, I really enjoy drinking wine on the weekends with dinner and watching a movie or series with my family. I have typically 3 drinks per night and I'm a happy drunk, and I don't get hungover the next day. It doesn't negatively impact my life at all or those around me, in fact I'd say it enhances it because I can be more social because of it. I don't party, I don't go crazy, I don't act like an ass, I don't get angry, I don't overdrink, none of that. Like the Buddhist ideal, I wonder if we can't accept a place for moderation instead of strict asceticism? This is why I also love Epicureanism a lot. Not all of us are going to be great men like JBP who are workaholics trying to change the world (who need to be sober all the time because they're trying to accomplish such monumental things), and we're all mortal creatures who are going to die no matter how healthy we are, I don't see the harm in it for someone like me. At the same time, if you have the problems like he describes, by all means quit entirely. That's not everyone though, and I'd miss it if I could never experience that state of being again. It adds to my quality of life. I believe my drinking is fine and have no plans on stopping. I just wanted to give a counterexample to all of the people in the comments advocating for everyone quitting entirely forever, I don't think it has to be that extreme under the right circumstances.
Let me tell you why I quit… I got tired. Tired of waking up hungover and have to go to work wishing I had done things differently only to do the same thing over again everyday for years and call my self ok. I got tired of crying myself out of a drunken state after I ran out and got sober. At first everything was great and those first couple beers ..awesome but that is the addiction and the action is never as good as the thought. The shit sucks and there’s a much better way and that is all. 545 days sober.
I never drink, when I was at University I would only binge drink one day a month, and then go sober for the next month. I hated drinking but did it because "that was the life". I am known as the tee total guy, and now I only ever have a beer once a year. One beer once a year, and that is usually at Christmas. However, one thing to be aware of is people put you in an identity as a drinker or non-drinker and it is still possible to enjoy a night out or go to the pub and drink exclusivley non alcoholic drinks and still be normal. Eventually you get used to it. I love it because I never have my sleep affected and I would encourage anyone who is attempting to stop to think about your sleep and how much better your life will feel when you get good quality sleep.
6 months sober. I only wish I had quit sooner.💪🏼I just grew up with weekend partying, not an alcoholic. I have been into healthy eating and weight lifting for years. I don’t know why I kept drinking on weekends.
Tomorrow is my day 4 today the 3rd day was harder than the first 2 days. I have also given up smoking im on the patch. I have also started carnivore. And have signed up at the gym. Im committed tired of disappointing myself over and over again. Alcohol is no good it keeps you in a misery loop. Good luck to all of you on the same sort of journey...you can do it.
Going on 3 years with no alcohol, and this is the first time i’ve put those 3 aspects of alcoholism together: the anxiety reducer, the motivator and the emotional push to appreciate people. Almost a miracle drug if it wasn’t so easy to overdo it.
Sobriety will give you a new life that you couldn’t have imagined. But you must make sacrifices along the way. It’s not an easy journey but it’s worth it. One day at a time.
I lost one of my childhood friends in 2020 then went through bad breakup 2021 that put me in a bad cycle of alcoholism. I quit in 2022 thank god I now 2 years sober
I've never drank. I've tried like 1 spoonful of Whiskey a month ago and I already was drunk for 2-3 minutes, my tongue was soft, my control was bad. I felt relaxed. I understood what it does... I still don't want.
Day 10 no alcohol or weed for me, haven’t felt this good in a long long time. If you’re struggling I’m right there with ya, just gotta stay the course and trust that it’s most definitely the right decision. Discipline DisciplineDiscipline!
I’m on day 10 too bro.. I became intolerant to it. Had to stop and I’m now utterly disgusted by it. Cheers man.. we were using it for the wrong reason(there is no right reason)
I really felt this. I always use alcohol to socialize and while it's not ideal if I don't use it then I just want to be by myself and not do anything social. I try to limit how often I do it to keep it under control but right now I don't know any other way. Even in high school and careers I was super anti social and didn't talk to anyone.
For some reason alcohol doesn't effect me negatively in that it just reduces my anxiety and makes me social. My thinking is exactly the same and I dont do things I would regret.
no I thought that was a useful question, for me his answer to that question was verbal reassurance that the difficulty of the task isn’t a personal failing
That’s not a bad question at all. Some people genetically are predisposed to quickly become “addicted “ or dependent on substances. Others do not experience that effect. As Peterson even noted, different people will have different effects from alcohol based on genetics
I struggled with alcohol and I had two DUIs by the time I was 22. I stoped drinking a year ago in August of 2023 without going to AA. Here’s what I can say from my experience I was drinking everyday. On my second DUI I had a breathalyzer in my car for two years and I still would drink everyday. I drank so much I knew how much to drink and what time to stop drinking in order to start my car in the morning to go to work at 5:00am. I’m 5’10 (135 now) but then I was 145 not a big difference but still I would work from 5:00-1:30. From work id go to the liquor store pick up 4-5tall cans which is equivalent to 8-10 16oz beers go home drink all of them by the time it was 5:00pm. Then id drink a gang load of water and id be able to start my car in the morning without there being alcohol in my system. I was an addict, but a functioning one. When I decided to stop I knew I had the will power to do so. The thing with me is I’m an all or nothing type of guy so I knew when I stopped that would literally be the last time I can drink because exactly how I go all in on drinking I was going to have to go all out on drinking. I’d say the first 3 months are the hardest. In the first month all you can think about is drinking and that maybe it’s not a good idea that you stopped. Even on the third month you are proud of yourself, but you kinda tell yourself ahh it’s only three months if I have a drink it won’t be bad because I can stop again and three months is only three months. If you fight the urge though I’d say after three months it gets easier and after a while you tell yourself man I’ve gone all this way and I don’t think I want to go back. I’ve went to AA in the past but I don’t think AA is for everyone. For me personally why I don’t like AA is because they believe in there steps so much that if you don’t follow them they kinda call you out on it and say without following the steps you will fall back into and I don’t think that’s true. I don’t find alcoholism to be a disease how they claim it to be. I believe everyone’s WILL POWER is different and some people need support and some of us can grab ourselves by the bootstraps and look ourselves in the mirror and say “ hey man you’ve been a Fup it’s time to get your 💩 together and stop before it gets worse”
Quitting alcohol? Absolutely amazing. I did for fourteen months, and learned a lot. One of the things I learned is that my problems come from within, and are not to be blamed on external mechanisms (too much). So, drinking alcohol? Also awesome. In excess? Absolutely not. Being "drunk" is no fun. But moderate drink? Yes fun. Praise the LORD.
I disagree that its all bad but if you cant stop drinking or you get angry, you got to start considering that. I struggled with both those problems. I still drink but I have put in work at the gym which has increased my overall well being and lessened my alcohol cravings, even when drinking and I can stop at a moderate amount. Also I went to therapy for my negative thinking and found it to be very effective but you have to take it seriously and put in the mental and physical work.
But if you can't put in the physical work to better your body then I recommend just quitting because it's difficult to moderate unless you feel physically and mentally well.
You keep going Liam, don’t focus on the number of days , try to focus on something that will replace the time that you would have spent drinking. Remember only you can stop drinking by choosing other activities to fill the void of alcohol.
I do either sober September or sober October every year. I don’t even drink Monday -Friday and sometimes without a thought more than two weeks. (Because of work or other.) Something bizarre happens 3 weeks after going sober. Almost like an awaking. Despite not even drinking that much?!?! Sometimes I wonder if alcohol embeds itself deep within the body and takes longer to “detox” than people think.
my grand father was an alcoholic, my father was a alcoholic, his brother was an alcoholic......seeing what it did to them and their lives...i dont drink period since my teens.....and channel my aggession into sport then gym.....now 52..i keep telling my daughter stop drinking....but her friends bad influence...
Christmas was 3 years without a drop of alcohol and it has been great. There are times when i want to “check out” and have 6 drinks but it always feels better to not.
Especially on special occasion days. Like christmas eve. I blacked out and on Christmas day I was in bed all day recovering throwing up while my family was down stairs watching movies and football.
Interesting comparison of alcohol as a stimulant. I actually take phenibut as a performance enhancer when I go on long runs. It works on GABA like alcohol, but is much cleaner, without inhibiting cognition or motor function. Everything just... flows when I take it, and I usually have more energy to push myself further.
Tread carefully with Phenibut - many short term benefits, but I would seriously advise to watch how many consecutive weeks you take it. It is VERY hard to get off it once you start.
@@JF-ld6lt yea, i usually take it 1-2 times a week and never on consecutive days. I would say .75 - 1g for a workout, or 1.5g for recreation (only occasionally). I dont want that tolerance buildup lol
@@snoozyq9576 lol fair point, but ive been doing that regimen for many years without cravings or increased tolerance. Ive actually *decreased* how much ive used over time to avoid those horrific side effects
25 years sober! I am so grateful to have gotten my life back and now live a rich and full life with gratitude. When you get your spiritual awakening, you'll never go back.
It’s sad to see someone who I had so much respect show who he really is. Since that fateful tweet that exposed what his soul is, on record for the world to see. Very sad, goes to show you can know the right path but to follow is something else.
I once went on a 18 month drinking bender. Living in Nevada you have access to alcohol 24/7/365. There was a store 150 feet from my door. During this 18 months. I believe I wore the same clothes the entire time and took a total of one 1 shower. There was 2-3 feet deep of garbage coving the entire floor. My landlord liked me. She would giving me a heads up on when the owner would come by to inspect the units. She made it clear to me. If he sees your room. You are getting kicked out. The depression was so intense. I could not make myself function properly at all. There was probably 20 full big bags of garbage in my unit. I had 5 days until the inspection. I had to force myself to do 4 bags a day. This sounds really funny I know. But when the depression is so strong. It hurts so bad to do anything. To take care of yourself. I could not clean, shower, or do anything. Other then drink and soak in my depression.
I find Jordan Peterson an intriguing character. Why did Jordan Peterson quit drinking? The answer here was that it was a rational decision based upon the weighing of pros and cons. What he continues to fail to appreciate is that it's not the pleasure seeking that drove it for him, but the relief of the pain. He winds up on Clonazepam, a Benzo, and continues to deflect into either Psychological or Spiritual defenses. He's the only Psychologist I've seen who didn't have any insight into his carrying of Trauma and its intergenerational transmission as, not a genetic transmission, but a biopsychosocial one. He's smart, his head leading him to, at times brilliance, and certainly a great talent for the transmission of ideas. "The false good turns suffering into violence; the true god, turns violence into suffering." His avoidance, understandable. It's continued revelation, remarkable. Oh so human.
It's so odd hearing about people who don't drink because it makes them do crazy things. I'm the same person when I drink, except more sociable and outgoing.
8:20 "Opiate mediated". For me, using naltrexone (Sinclair Method) which blocks natural endorphins (endogenous opioids) made quitting so much easier. It rewired my brain to not associate alcohol with a euphoric high. All subconscious. It's not logical, but addiction is not logical.
I’ve been a binge drinker for 17 years. I could go all week without a drop of it. I could go 2 weeks without drinking whenever I wanted to but once I had one drink, I had to go all the way. Black out drunk. Empty bank accounts. Credit card debt. Lost relationships with 5 beautiful women. I could easily have married any of them if it was for my problem. Broken relationships with family/friends. Multiple emergency room visits. Jail 3 times. I finally reached rock bottom that I thought I had already passed many years before. I’m 4 days sober now and God willing I am for sure done this time. Or else I’ll be dead.
The war on alcohol to this day is a hill I will die on. Most people who drink alcohol haven't got a problem, and most people who drink alcohol don't get blackout drunk. The people who should stop drinking are the people who have a problem with it. For most people it is an entire career, it's a hobby, a luxury, a pleasure, a happy memory, a good night out if done properly. Most things are terrible for you if you do it too much. If you have a problem, stop, if you don't, don't. Simple. Also all the people who claim alcohol does horrible things to your body yet still eat processed foods, don't exercise or eat a balance diet, can quite frankly get fucked.
"Claim alcohol does horrible things to your body". It is scientifically proven alcohol is terrible for the mind and body. Alcoholic or not your body will pay the price somewhere along the line.
Except that a person who binges on Krispy Kreme Doughnuts won't smash the family home up or drive the wrong way down the freeway. Alcohol is destructive and bad. I am telling you this. Also, you are in denial about alcohol. I had a housemate who used to think he was some great philosopher because he drank red wine. He described it as 'spirit.' He eventually physically assaulted someone else in the house and ended up with a black eye because of his drinking.
Drinking never had the desired effect for me and it took me about 10 years to realize that this gives me nothing. Even from the first time i took a drink it never made me "more" social, it made me say a lot more stupid things but i can talk even when i am sober. It never made me more confident, it made me read social situations wrong and act stupid. It never made me more relaxed i always woke up like 5 in the morning after and couldn't go back to sleep. In the end all i enjoyed was the feeling it gave me for myself, and having one or two beers never did anything for me, made me annoyed that i couldn't have more maybe. I would enjoy getting shitfaced in my home just as much as going out, because getting shitfaced was all it gave me. However i would say i am a special case, i have friends that do enjoy a few beers and they dont want to get shitfaced. So i have no recommendations for anyone, just be honest with yourself and you can make your own decisions.
@@tonyp.bahama9368 Yes - any bad habit I have broken successfully I never remember the date - in time it all fades - like a wound healing - only a light scar. Also the only way to loose a bad habit is to replace it with a good habit - prayer always works - don't leave a void - fill it with something good.
Almost 2 years no drinking for me. I wasn’t a bad alcoholic, I was the average drinker but alcohol is just terrible for you. There’s no amount of alcohol that’s good for you.
I tried to quit for years…AA the whole bit then went to “ravenous life healing center” in Chicago. Got superconscious (not subconscious) hypnotherapy done haven’t even been tempted to touch a drink since. Was a bit like coming off a hard ayuasca trip felt like psychosis then went back to normal after 3 months. At the time I didn’t think it was worth it but looking back it definitely was Nothing else would have worked. This is not an AD lol. Russian girl who is actually famous because she skydived and her parachute didn’t open but she lived.
Almost on Day 4 no alcohol! Got to start somewhere.
Lets do it together, same for me. Had the last beer of a case and decided not to buy another one.
Congrats, celebrating that accomplishment is very valid. Good for you : )
8 months and 9 days for me. Best of luck on your journey
Try With Hof breathing and cardio. Seven years for me
Day 1 for me. Good luck
I've never heard a single person say they regret quitting alcohol. That says it all
Probably because the ones who regretted it started drinking again.
I regret quitting….
@@Same-l3d why dont you start drinking then?
@ religious reasons. I’m becoming a monk.
@@Same-l3d why cant you drink alcohol as a monk? (Maybe a stupid question, i know)
150 days sober for first time in my life and for the most part loving it, living in a sober state of mind is a lot fuller life and meaningful. It’s tuff at times but well worth it
Good job!
Alcohol can destroy your life, even kill you. 10 years sober. Best decision I've ever made.
Alcohol free for two months today. 40 years was enough. Got tired of being an ass to my loved ones and figured my liver could use a break.
Congratulations! I’m almost 50 and one of the best days of my mom’s, sisters and my life was when my dad stopped drinking when I was a kid. Drinking affects yours friends and family too. Good luck!!
Sobriety delivers everything Alcohol promises.
Friend of bills
It really doesn't.
@@TheFracturedfuture no?
@@JohnConnor636 Nah.
I've never been a drinker and sobriety alone does nothing.
@@TheFracturedfuture so you know nothing.
I am 3 years sober from alcohol today after a 20 year addiction. You will discover and tap into potential you currently only believe would be a super power or powers. Successes in your life become byproducts of your abstinence from alcohol. It’s amazing.
I quit drinking.
Where’s the superpowers?
When Lambo?
1.5 yrs sober. Gave me energy but took away energy. Always cost something and the costs became way too high.
Congrats on drying out :)
First a man takes a drink, Then the drink 🍸 takes the man.
fitzgerald
This Dec will mark 21 yrs sober for me.
Hang tough everyone counting days, it gets easier.
Well done ! It becomes beautiful, not just easier 😇
I just started Sober September. Happy to see this content come up in my timeline.
Do a year. Trust me
i could listen to JP talk about alcohol all day. Really helps keep my sobriety in focus, if im being honest. Thank you.
Thanks for this JP I got sober at 27 like you and now I’m 47. Just reminded me that I don’t need to try again at 50.
i've had a long and difficult journey to get clean and so I used to find some appreciation for what jordan Peterson said, but I do have reservations because he talks so much about the negatives of alcohol and how he decided to quit. except he just replaced his own issues with alcohol with benzos, drugs that notoriously mimic the effects of alcohol, some may argue they're far worse. though you're significantly less likely to wake up with crippling regret, or in jail. I still fiind how he talks negatively about people who drink and the reasons for it disrespectful in how his words are deceptive with intention and blatantly narcissistic.
I get the alcohol stimulant effect to where I can toss back 8-12 strong IPAs well into 3am, when I normally get sleepy sober around 10pm. A 5 hour stimulant effect well beyond that usual bedtime, but there is a hard crash eventually which usually means falling asleep in a chair. I notice a tremendous improvement in motivation and reduced adhd with merely 7 days sober, but 30 seems to make "everything" easier to tolerate just naturally. Stress tolerance is massively improved with sobriety.
I found some interesting (in a good way) mood changes after a year of sobriety. I found I started being less angry about everything. Some of the anxiety that I thought I was drinking to alleviate is now gone.
This sums me up exactly. When I realized I was always the last one awake and last one to stop drinking at parties/events it proved my problem and made me realize there's absolutely nothing normal about drinking.
I find myself just wanting to drink when I'm bored and only on weekends (when I don't have work the next day). Just don't know how to stop the "feeling" of wanting to have some beers (which then turns in to 10) before I pass out as you mentioned. I can generally go 2 weeks but then I get a strong craving to have some. Any advice?
Oh dam that's why I quit lol. Drink8ng into 3 am then bam wide awake drinking walking around town getting into trouble
Yeh I take antidepressants too and like you say dealing with life's stressor like people etc. is much easier the longer stay off the stuff. I also find exercise I'd very helpful especially gym work
I’m 37 caring for my disabled veteran mother and her disabled brother while preparing to propose to the woman of my dreams and become a first time homebuyer. We all start somewhere, this is my new chapter. I’m starting my journey tomorrow, Peterson has changed my life. I’d say today but I’m drinking watching this. Seeing everyone here in the comments on their path has been inspiring.
I can't waste Sunday hungover. Even 5 hours of getting stuff done on Sunday makes a bit difference on the rest of the week.
So true.
This is the way
Facts.
Haven't touched a drink since 0:00 AM, 01.01.2024. The only New Year's resolution that I followed through. The only one I've ever made actually. Hmm, there might be something there. Specifying the date on which you will change something in yourself for the better.
Jordan helped at lot, by the way!
Exact same date and time brother. Cheers to you!
339 days sober. Thank you Jesus. Thank you JP
Thank you Jesus. Well said..
Thanks Anubus
4 years sober. Worth it.
Just recently turned 21 and stopped drinking 3 weeks ago. Idk if it’ll last but I’m for sure better without it.
Make it last if you can! It'll be one of if not the best decisions you'll make in life.
Man I forget how long 3 weeks feels when you’re 21
Don't do it brudda
I'm 35 and have been sober for 2 years, but I'd give anything to go back in time and quite at your age.
My brother died of alcoholism. Tread very carefully.
condolences
he might change
How did he die? I’m sorry for your loss.
@@mudcast Autopsy said ethanol poisoning. He drank vodka that night. It was sudden he didn't even go to the hospital in months before that.
@@DavidL-wd5pu Thank you. Very sorry for the loss..
Why is it always "why did you quit drinking?"?, Rather than, "why did you drink?"
Because people aren't stupid and everyone knows why alcohol is so good
Peterson gives three reasons just in this talk.
Some people can moderately handle it and some can’t. You have to decide what is most important in your life and if eliminating it will make your life better.
3 months away from a year and i can tell you it’s changed my life
I forget my personal goals when I have even one beer.
Alcohol has an important place in life. Would've saved my life at age 18. But now at 40, I gotta quit. Sober for like 3 weeks now, don't miss it. (Because circumstances in my life are changing too. If your life doesn't change, then yes, it's REALLY hard.)
JP is absolutely right - I was GOOD at drinking! Almost never did anything embarrassing, never got sick. It showed off my mental stability! But whatever, now that I'm older, I just know that it slides into a loop of drinking everyday, and I don't want to waste my time anymore....
I had my last drink on March 22nd this year. Wasn’t a daily drinker or anything, just wasn’t “my best self” while drinking, and it isn’t healthy. So I decided to see how not drinking goes and honestly I haven’t had a single regret since quitting and that’s a first lol
“Eradicates concern for future stimuluses” - AMEN
Gave up alcohol 4.5 years ago. The only substance I've quit and have never missed.
I understand where JBP is coming from, and I'm sure for a vast number of people it's true. On the other hand, I really enjoy drinking wine on the weekends with dinner and watching a movie or series with my family. I have typically 3 drinks per night and I'm a happy drunk, and I don't get hungover the next day. It doesn't negatively impact my life at all or those around me, in fact I'd say it enhances it because I can be more social because of it. I don't party, I don't go crazy, I don't act like an ass, I don't get angry, I don't overdrink, none of that.
Like the Buddhist ideal, I wonder if we can't accept a place for moderation instead of strict asceticism? This is why I also love Epicureanism a lot. Not all of us are going to be great men like JBP who are workaholics trying to change the world (who need to be sober all the time because they're trying to accomplish such monumental things), and we're all mortal creatures who are going to die no matter how healthy we are, I don't see the harm in it for someone like me. At the same time, if you have the problems like he describes, by all means quit entirely. That's not everyone though, and I'd miss it if I could never experience that state of being again. It adds to my quality of life. I believe my drinking is fine and have no plans on stopping. I just wanted to give a counterexample to all of the people in the comments advocating for everyone quitting entirely forever, I don't think it has to be that extreme under the right circumstances.
Let me tell you why I quit… I got tired. Tired of waking up hungover and have to go to work wishing I had done things differently only to do the same thing over again everyday for years and call my self ok. I got tired of crying myself out of a drunken state after I ran out and got sober. At first everything was great and those first couple beers ..awesome but that is the addiction and the action is never as good as the thought. The shit sucks and there’s a much better way and that is all. 545 days sober.
3 years sober with the help of this man!
I never drink, when I was at University I would only binge drink one day a month, and then go sober for the next month. I hated drinking but did it because "that was the life". I am known as the tee total guy, and now I only ever have a beer once a year. One beer once a year, and that is usually at Christmas.
However, one thing to be aware of is people put you in an identity as a drinker or non-drinker and it is still possible to enjoy a night out or go to the pub and drink exclusivley non alcoholic drinks and still be normal. Eventually you get used to it.
I love it because I never have my sleep affected and I would encourage anyone who is attempting to stop to think about your sleep and how much better your life will feel when you get good quality sleep.
Some lessons need to be learned thru direct experience. Some lessons consume an entire life.
Seven years sober on the 30th, and this isn't my first rodeo...was sober for five years before. Everything gets better without alcohol.
He has an addictive personality and he learned that a hard way
6 months sober. I only wish I had quit sooner.💪🏼I just grew up with weekend partying, not an alcoholic. I have been into healthy eating and weight lifting for years. I don’t know why I kept drinking on weekends.
Tomorrow is my day 4 today the 3rd day was harder than the first 2 days. I have also given up smoking im on the patch. I have also started carnivore. And have signed up at the gym. Im committed tired of disappointing myself over and over again. Alcohol is no good it keeps you in a misery loop. Good luck to all of you on the same sort of journey...you can do it.
Going on 3 years with no alcohol, and this is the first time i’ve put those 3 aspects of alcoholism together: the anxiety reducer, the motivator and the emotional push to appreciate people. Almost a miracle drug if it wasn’t so easy to overdo it.
I drank for 3.5 years some of the time really heavily and I’m never drinking again
I’m 28 and already getting crows feet likely from the drinking
And if it wasn't poison
Sobriety will give you a new life that you couldn’t have imagined. But you must make sacrifices along the way. It’s not an easy journey but it’s worth it. One day at a time.
I lost one of my childhood friends in 2020 then went through bad breakup 2021 that put me in a bad cycle of alcoholism. I quit in 2022 thank god I now 2 years sober
I've never drank. I've tried like 1 spoonful of Whiskey a month ago and I already was drunk for 2-3 minutes, my tongue was soft, my control was bad. I felt relaxed. I understood what it does... I still don't want.
You defo dint get drunk from a spoonful of whisky 😂
drunk for 2-3 minutes 😂😂😂
The last 4 minutes are incredibly valuable.
Haven't had a drink for 6 months, really did not like myself during or after. Dont think ill go back.
I'm a few months off 9 months sober. Don't go back. Keep looking forward. Whatever you think it might give you, it will take more from you
12:00 19 days sober since 15 years. this is the hard part. to be sober and to changer your life...
Patience is a virtue - so is impatience.
Day 10 no alcohol or weed for me, haven’t felt this good in a long long time. If you’re struggling I’m right there with ya, just gotta stay the course and trust that it’s most definitely the right decision. Discipline DisciplineDiscipline!
I’m on day 10 too bro.. I became intolerant to it. Had to stop and I’m now utterly disgusted by it. Cheers man.. we were using it for the wrong reason(there is no right reason)
Same!
Didn’t know this, respect him so much more. I don’t drink either. It’s a much better and highly improved world this way at so many levels. Respect.
The very last thing he said on this video is it. I can't afford to make a mistake.
4 weeks sober! So far so good
I really felt this. I always use alcohol to socialize and while it's not ideal if I don't use it then I just want to be by myself and not do anything social. I try to limit how often I do it to keep it under control but right now I don't know any other way. Even in high school and careers I was super anti social and didn't talk to anyone.
Almost 18 months sober!!!
For some reason alcohol doesn't effect me negatively in that it just reduces my anxiety
and makes me social. My thinking is exactly the same and I dont do things I would regret.
Great video, perfect timing!
IT'S THE FIRST DRINK THAT DOES THE DAMAGE
If you don't have the first drink, you can't get drunk!
"Was drinking hard to stop?" What do you think?
no I thought that was a useful question, for me his answer to that question was verbal reassurance that the difficulty of the task isn’t a personal failing
That’s not a bad question at all. Some people genetically are predisposed to quickly become “addicted “ or dependent on substances. Others do not experience that effect. As Peterson even noted, different people will have different effects from alcohol based on genetics
I struggled with alcohol and I had two DUIs by the time I was 22. I stoped drinking a year ago in August of 2023 without going to AA. Here’s what I can say from my experience I was drinking everyday. On my second DUI I had a breathalyzer in my car for two years and I still would drink everyday. I drank so much I knew how much to drink and what time to stop drinking in order to start my car in the morning to go to work at 5:00am. I’m 5’10 (135 now) but then I was 145 not a big difference but still I would work from 5:00-1:30. From work id go to the liquor store pick up 4-5tall cans which is equivalent to 8-10 16oz beers go home drink all of them by the time it was 5:00pm. Then id drink a gang load of water and id be able to start my car in the morning without there being alcohol in my system. I was an addict, but a functioning one. When I decided to stop I knew I had the will power to do so. The thing with me is I’m an all or nothing type of guy so I knew when I stopped that would literally be the last time I can drink because exactly how I go all in on drinking I was going to have to go all out on drinking. I’d say the first 3 months are the hardest. In the first month all you can think about is drinking and that maybe it’s not a good idea that you stopped. Even on the third month you are proud of yourself, but you kinda tell yourself ahh it’s only three months if I have a drink it won’t be bad because I can stop again and three months is only three months. If you fight the urge though I’d say after three months it gets easier and after a while you tell yourself man I’ve gone all this way and I don’t think I want to go back. I’ve went to AA in the past but I don’t think AA is for everyone. For me personally why I don’t like AA is because they believe in there steps so much that if you don’t follow them they kinda call you out on it and say without following the steps you will fall back into and I don’t think that’s true. I don’t find alcoholism to be a disease how they claim it to be. I believe everyone’s WILL POWER is different and some people need support and some of us can grab ourselves by the bootstraps and look ourselves in the mirror and say “ hey man you’ve been a Fup it’s time to get your 💩 together and stop before it gets worse”
@@guerorobles423 What a powerful story. Congratulations on becoming such a disciplined person and bettering yourself!
@@arthrodea thank you 🙏
Quitting alcohol? Absolutely amazing. I did for fourteen months, and learned a lot.
One of the things I learned is that my problems come from within, and are not to be blamed on external mechanisms (too much).
So, drinking alcohol? Also awesome.
In excess? Absolutely not. Being "drunk" is no fun. But moderate drink? Yes fun.
Praise the LORD.
I officially stopped drinking 2.25 hrs ago… send me my flowers 💐
Approaching 60 days no alcohol and I feel like I’m beating a generational curse
I disagree that its all bad but if you cant stop drinking or you get angry, you got to start considering that. I struggled with both those problems. I still drink but I have put in work at the gym which has increased my overall well being and lessened my alcohol cravings, even when drinking and I can stop at a moderate amount. Also I went to therapy for my negative thinking and found it to be very effective but you have to take it seriously and put in the mental and physical work.
But if you can't put in the physical work to better your body then I recommend just quitting because it's difficult to moderate unless you feel physically and mentally well.
You keep going Liam, don’t focus on the number of days , try to focus on something that will replace the time that you would have spent drinking. Remember only you can stop drinking by choosing other activities to fill the void of alcohol.
I do either sober September or sober October every year. I don’t even drink Monday -Friday and sometimes without a thought more than two weeks. (Because of work or other.)
Something bizarre happens 3 weeks after going sober. Almost like an awaking. Despite not even drinking that much?!?! Sometimes I wonder if alcohol embeds itself deep within the body and takes longer to “detox” than people think.
Yes spot on ! It is far more insidious than people think. You don't have to drink that much for it to take from you.
I have been confident and social my entire life and I've never tried alcohol.
Good for you!
nobody asked you
lucky you.
Sure u have, Prowse.
It's never too late to try it.
Just got out of a 7 day detox from alcohol with the help of Librium. I’m so glad to feel clearer than I was.
my grand father was an alcoholic, my father was a alcoholic, his brother was an alcoholic......seeing what it did to them and their lives...i dont drink period since my teens.....and channel my aggession into sport then gym.....now 52..i keep telling my daughter stop drinking....but her friends bad influence...
On day 6 again. Don’t quit quitting. 👍🏼
Christmas was 3 years without a drop of alcohol and it has been great. There are times when i want to “check out” and have 6 drinks but it always feels better to not.
alcohol is a waste of time and money
Especially on special occasion days. Like christmas eve. I blacked out and on Christmas day I was in bed all day recovering throwing up while my family was down stairs watching movies and football.
Interesting comparison of alcohol as a stimulant. I actually take phenibut as a performance enhancer when I go on long runs. It works on GABA like alcohol, but is much cleaner, without inhibiting cognition or motor function. Everything just... flows when I take it, and I usually have more energy to push myself further.
Tread carefully with Phenibut - many short term benefits, but I would seriously advise to watch how many consecutive weeks you take it. It is VERY hard to get off it once you start.
@@JF-ld6lt yea, i usually take it 1-2 times a week and never on consecutive days. I would say .75 - 1g for a workout, or 1.5g for recreation (only occasionally). I dont want that tolerance buildup lol
@@julian9898just know that thats how these things always start.
@@snoozyq9576 lol fair point, but ive been doing that regimen for many years without cravings or increased tolerance. Ive actually *decreased* how much ive used over time to avoid those horrific side effects
25 years sober! I am so grateful to have gotten my life back and now live a rich and full life with gratitude. When you get your spiritual awakening, you'll never go back.
Dude wearing sneakers with a suit, what a mess, you triggered my alcoholism
It’s sad to see someone who I had so much respect show who he really is. Since that fateful tweet that exposed what his soul is, on record for the world to see. Very sad, goes to show you can know the right path but to follow is something else.
What you talking about ? Peterson??
I once went on a 18 month drinking bender. Living in Nevada you have access to alcohol 24/7/365. There was a store 150 feet from my door. During this 18 months. I believe I wore the same clothes the entire time and took a total of one 1 shower. There was 2-3 feet deep of garbage coving the entire floor. My landlord liked me. She would giving me a heads up on when the owner would come by to inspect the units. She made it clear to me. If he sees your room. You are getting kicked out. The depression was so intense. I could not make myself function properly at all. There was probably 20 full big bags of garbage in my unit. I had 5 days until the inspection. I had to force myself to do 4 bags a day. This sounds really funny I know. But when the depression is so strong. It hurts so bad to do anything. To take care of yourself. I could not clean, shower, or do anything. Other then drink and soak in my depression.
And how are you now?
@Matt-u5i Thank you for asking. I am better. I found a job that lets me save a good amount of money. Things are better now.
I know that feeling well. Sober I get everything done . I hope you’re leaving that chapter behind as am i
Question: what's the opposite of evil?
Peterson: do you have 15 minutes? 1:18
This guy branched off from real estate and money management, to starting a kickass podcast. Stud
I find Jordan Peterson an intriguing character. Why did Jordan Peterson quit drinking? The answer here was that it was a rational decision based upon the weighing of pros and cons. What he continues to fail to appreciate is that it's not the pleasure seeking that drove it for him, but the relief of the pain. He winds up on Clonazepam, a Benzo, and continues to deflect into either Psychological or Spiritual defenses. He's the only Psychologist I've seen who didn't have any insight into his carrying of Trauma and its intergenerational transmission as, not a genetic transmission, but a biopsychosocial one. He's smart, his head leading him to, at times brilliance, and certainly a great talent for the transmission of ideas. "The false good turns suffering into violence; the true god, turns violence into suffering." His avoidance, understandable. It's continued revelation, remarkable. Oh so human.
I’m trying to quit/cut down it’s difficult
It's so odd hearing about people who don't drink because it makes them do crazy things. I'm the same person when I drink, except more sociable and outgoing.
Consider yourself blessed
Same here! I think alcohol is fine and fun but it's way too taxing on the body for what it does.
You probably dont go overboard then
Yea in AA they call it an allergy. That's what it felt like for me. It triggered bad reactions. Glad I quit.
8:20 "Opiate mediated". For me, using naltrexone (Sinclair Method) which blocks natural endorphins (endogenous opioids) made quitting so much easier. It rewired my brain to not associate alcohol with a euphoric high. All subconscious. It's not logical, but addiction is not logical.
Very interesting , I could relate to all of this .
I’ve been a binge drinker for 17 years. I could go all week without a drop of it. I could go 2 weeks without drinking whenever I wanted to but once I had one drink, I had to go all the way. Black out drunk. Empty bank accounts. Credit card debt. Lost relationships with 5 beautiful women. I could easily have married any of them if it was for my problem. Broken relationships with family/friends. Multiple emergency room visits. Jail 3 times. I finally reached rock bottom that I thought I had already passed many years before. I’m 4 days sober now and God willing I am for sure done this time. Or else I’ll be dead.
Haven't had a drink since 2015. Thank you God for saving me from myself
How can I really comment on this? The dude in the maroon jacket. Has so much to say and is so reserved. I would like to speak more please.
Day 2 no alcohol. I am watching this video and currently reading a book call "Dopamine Nation". It is a very interesting book.
The war on alcohol to this day is a hill I will die on. Most people who drink alcohol haven't got a problem, and most people who drink alcohol don't get blackout drunk. The people who should stop drinking are the people who have a problem with it. For most people it is an entire career, it's a hobby, a luxury, a pleasure, a happy memory, a good night out if done properly. Most things are terrible for you if you do it too much. If you have a problem, stop, if you don't, don't. Simple.
Also all the people who claim alcohol does horrible things to your body yet still eat processed foods, don't exercise or eat a balance diet, can quite frankly get fucked.
Don’t worry, it’s not going anywhere.
People who claim processed foods and not working out is bad for your health but drink alcohol can get fucked (what you sound like).
"Claim alcohol does horrible things to your body".
It is scientifically proven alcohol is terrible for the mind and body.
Alcoholic or not your body will pay the price somewhere along the line.
Except that a person who binges on Krispy Kreme Doughnuts won't smash the family home up or drive the wrong way down the freeway. Alcohol is destructive and bad. I am telling you this. Also, you are in denial about alcohol. I had a housemate who used to think he was some great philosopher because he drank red wine. He described it as 'spirit.' He eventually physically assaulted someone else in the house and ended up with a black eye because of his drinking.
Drugs are not a hobby. If any other drugs had these effects people would rage against them. Read the stats about violence and alcohol
2.5 years sober no more performative contradictions 😂
Best decision I ever made. 16 months sober.
Drinking never had the desired effect for me and it took me about 10 years to realize that this gives me nothing. Even from the first time i took a drink it never made me "more" social, it made me say a lot more stupid things but i can talk even when i am sober. It never made me more confident, it made me read social situations wrong and act stupid. It never made me more relaxed i always woke up like 5 in the morning after and couldn't go back to sleep. In the end all i enjoyed was the feeling it gave me for myself, and having one or two beers never did anything for me, made me annoyed that i couldn't have more maybe. I would enjoy getting shitfaced in my home just as much as going out, because getting shitfaced was all it gave me. However i would say i am a special case, i have friends that do enjoy a few beers and they dont want to get shitfaced. So i have no recommendations for anyone, just be honest with yourself and you can make your own decisions.
How to overthink a hangover
I never suffered from Alcoholism...until I got sober
I force my self to drink every now and then and be social. Glad my body doesn't get addicted easily
It’s very easy to give up alcohol if you not an alcoholic!
its very easy to also not have to quit at all because you are not an alcoholic... all these commenters clearly are alcoholics
@James_36 giving up alcohol for an alcoholic is like rising from the dead, but by the grace of God it's possible!
880 days raw dogging life.
Never felt better.
It’s a spiritual journey, I’ll tell you that.
Recipe for failure: mark a place in time then count - always fails. That's the fundamental flaw in AA.
What do you mean? Like Counting the days since you got sober?
@@tonyp.bahama9368 Yes - any bad habit I have broken successfully I never remember the date - in time it all fades - like a wound healing - only a light scar. Also the only way to loose a bad habit is to replace it with a good habit - prayer always works - don't leave a void - fill it with something good.
@@4Dm8ion im asking cuz i quit alcohol and drugs 480 days ago hahaha, but still havent found anything worthwhile to fill in the gap
Im someone that gets an upper effect from booze. So whenever Im not wanting to drink, making a French press of coffee is as enjoyable.
Almost 2 years no drinking for me. I wasn’t a bad alcoholic, I was the average drinker but alcohol is just terrible for you. There’s no amount of alcohol that’s good for you.
3.5 years for me and I’m already getting crows feet from it at 28 years old
Alchohol needs to be illegal again and replaced with DMT or something
Most of us would not have been conceived had it not existed.😂
Use it don't abuse it.
I stopped liking drinking when i felt cool during the day time so i didn't like ruining that for a week over one night.
Start quitting when youre young!! Alcohol brings the ilussion of fun, its a LIE.
Two plus years not drinking and never regretted it. Weird, exercise and not drinking is making my life good? Weird how that works.
I tried to quit for years…AA the whole bit then went to “ravenous life healing center” in Chicago. Got superconscious (not subconscious) hypnotherapy done haven’t even been tempted to touch a drink since. Was a bit like coming off a hard ayuasca trip felt like psychosis then went back to normal after 3 months. At the time I didn’t think it was worth it but looking back it definitely was Nothing else would have worked. This is not an AD lol. Russian girl who is actually famous because she skydived and her parachute didn’t open but she lived.