Dont hate me but my favorite is the 2020 Emma. I agree there are some weird things. But I think Emma is more acurate to the book like she would have appeared braty and selfish to people around her on the outside in the book even if we as the reader get to know her thoughts shes still acting that way. Thats what I like about Emma she has a good heart but shes selfish and she has to grow and work on that. Thats what makes Emma such a hopeful story:)
I love it as well! It has by far the best Emma-Knightley chemistry, it looks gorgeous, Emma herself is spot on and yes, it leans heavily into the comedy but honestly, so does the book, its just more subtle.
My favourite Austen book has always been Persuasion and the best Captain Wentworth by a mile is Ciaran Hinds. For me, Rupert Penry-Jones is just wrong. Ciaran Hinds had the maturity and manliness and Amanda Root broke my heart playing Anne with the perfect mixture of regret and hope. It is probably my favourite Austen adaptation as they got everything right in my opinion, from the locations to the costume to the casting. It was perfect.
I loved listening to this, but to me Ciaran Hinds as Captain Wentworth was cast perfectly! I guess I’m an old lady but, “not dreamy”?? I think he’s absolutely beautiful!
I know Joe Wright's P&P is not historically or book accurate, but I love it. I love how it looks. I love the music. I love the direction and action choice for Lizzy and Darcy. And I love The Lizzie Bennet Diaries too. It's just so cute. And a great transcription of the story into a 2010s social media reality.
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I LOVE the 2005 P&P. I suppose it's because it was my introduction to the story (I had vaguely heard of it but hadn't read the book or seen any other adaptations at that point). I remember going to see it with my roommate and we were positively giddy for hours afterwards. :D Having read the book quite a few times now, I am very much aware of the differences between the book and the movie, but on the whole they just don't bother me (I will concede that the pig scene was very random and unnecessary, but it's a minor detail for me). The 1995 version is definitely closer to the book, largely because it has more time to tell the story, so if I'm in the mood to basically watch the book being acted out, that's the one I'll go for. But I think the 2005 one does a good job of condensing the main plot down to 2 hours, and overall I like the casting better. Another thing: I know a lot of people say the 2005 version of the Bennetts seem kind of shabby, and they probably are portrayed as looking slightly poorer than Jane Austen had in mind, but I think the idea was to give us a better idea of the massive difference in income between them and the richer characters. When I watch the 1995 version I don't *really* get the sense that the Bennetts are in a rather precarious financial situation. Plus the 2005 Longbourn house feels actually lived in, whereas in 1995 it feels a little too neat and almost staged. All that said, I very much enjoy the 1995 miniseries, and The Lizzie Bennett Diaries is brilliant. As far as Emma goes, the 2009 version is excellent, so much so I'm very hesitant to watch any of the other period adaptations, because frankly I don't see how they could top that. I would encourage you both to give Emma Approved another shot. It took me a few episodes to get into it myself, but I really enjoyed it after that. Yes, Emma is not very likable at the start - but that's the point. She's supposed to be a bit spoiled and a know-it-all... who eventually realizes that she does not, in fact, know it all, and that her ideas of what will make people's lives better aren't always the best. She does genuinely mean well, and that's shown very early on (in the arc you were critiquing, actually), but she has a lot of growing up to do, and I think this format was a good way of letting us see her character development. Anyway, I could go on, but that was my 2 cents. I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts. :)
I’m still cracking up over our Emma adaptation debacle. 😆 It was SO MUCH FUN chatting with you, as always, and hearing your fantastic Jane Austen insight!
The BBC version of Pride and Prejudice is my favorite. That scene of Wickham trying to convince Georgiana to elope with him inspired the novel "Wickham's Second Attempt". I hope that one day that book becomes #WickhamMovie
Funny enough, back in the day, that 1980’s version of Northanger Abbey was my introduction to Jane Austen and made want to read all her novels. I loved the gothic feel of it and the melodramatic heroine; and I loved how JA was poking fun at her own generation as well as warning of the dangers of getting swept up in such silliness. I love the growth arc of Katherine as she sees how ridiculous she’s been, and Peter Firth (who plays Henry Tilney) is so extremely charming! (One of my favorite JA heroes ever) 80’s movies are notoriously dated due to the music of that era, but at the time, it was as distracting as it is now. I also have to say that the ending of that version is so so good! Way better than the book which is so anticlimactic to such a melodramatic heroine. I will always love that version because it led me to discover the richness of reading all of Jane Austen as a young adult - which makes me value her work all the more. This was such a fun video to watch as its clear you both love JA so much! Thank you!
I really dislike the 2005 P&P adaptation. First thing that bugged me was how destitute Longbourn looked and that they chose a house sorrounded by a water canal that Lizzy had to cross through some rickety bridge. The house is a beautiful historical structure but not Longbourn. But what really pushed me to the edge was the love confession under the rain. I could only cringe at the melodramatics, and the second thought was wondering if they just ruined Lizzie's reputation, if she was compromised by being alone unchaperoned under the rain with a man, because they wanted the theatrical rain scene without thinking beyond the visuals.
I feel so validated with my love of the 80s Mansfield Park!! It's one of my favorite overall adaptations for the exact reasons you state - it's so true to the story even though Fanny is not really a dynamic or vibrant character. The casting is SPOT ON and it really tells the whole narrative very faithfully.
Your comments at 35:02 overlook Jonny Lee Miller's child actor role in the 1982 Mansfield Park as Charles Price, making a triple with his 1996 Mansfield as Edmund Bertram and his 2008 Emma as Knightley.
The 2016 Love and Friendship was a very stylized production, very much like the 2020 Emma. As a person who has read Lady Susan about a dozen times, I was not confused by the movie, so maybe that's the key. I LOVED it, laughed out loud all the way through, and really enjoyed the beautiful settings, costumes, and music, in addition to the wonderful performances!
This was such a great discussion, thank you! I really liked how you analysed everything. And I especially agreed with your assessment of the Pride and Prejudice adaptations. "Brönttification" is really a great way to describe the 2005 version. And to the pig in the house I will add Mr. Bennet's orchids - what was that all about??
I am in the minority, but the Keira knightly pride and prejudice was the first one I watched, and forever will be my favorite one. I watched both, and they are both good. But that one is just pride and prejudice to me.
Did you read Mary B by the author Katherine Chen? It’s written from Mary’s perspective (Pride and Prejudice). I’ve always wondered about her character, and how it would feel to be so dismissed and discounted in favor of her prettier and more charming sisters. Really good novel!
I want to read "The Other Bennet Sister". I think Mary has gotten a lot more popular in modern times. There's quite a bit of debate over how things would pan out for her if she had a more modern education.
what breaks my heart in 1995 S&S is when Col Brandon and Marianne comes out of the church you see Willohby on his horse looking down with bittersweet longing of what could have been on a side note Emma Thompsons first marriage ended in divorce she met and later married a man who was in the movie who did she marry the man who played Willohby ( still are happily married) so in a strange sort of way Willohby did live happily ever after with Elenor!
I've always felt that MP was a thought experiment what if Anne de Burgh was the underdog and Lizzy was privileged and what Lady Catherine believed her to be. Also because I have to say this.....Edmund annoys me in the book so very very much so I'm glad to have my opinion validated.
I get such a strong feeling while reading MP that among other things, Austen used it as vehicle to speak Mary Crawfords thoughts. You can just tell from the way her words are crafted vs Fannys, that Mary seemed more self aware, and I don’t know the right word, but-insightful? Original? While being of course scandalous for the time. I don’t mean that Austen wanted to make her the heroine. But I definitely feel like as a character she enjoyed writing Mary more than Fanny. And was more proud of it.
I was at a JASNA General Meeting where we watched Prada to Nada, and Andrew Davies was there and they got him to watch it too!!! I didn't hear his comments on it, but his comments on his S&S were really interesting.
Thank you for the recommendation of the 1983 Mansfield Park. While the sound design drives me crazy, it is a quite good adaptation, and I do think the actress who plays Fanny does a good job at portraying her as meek but strong-willed.
I thought the "scoldiest" Mr. Knightley was Mark Strong. I can't remember the year of that adaptation. It might have been the same as the one with Gwyneth Paltrow.
I LOVED this! Regarding the adaptations of Emma, I'm with Anne - the 2009 is my favourite, and the Gyneth Paltrow one is my least favourite, but Emma's love for it has definitely made me want to watch it again too 😆 Also, I just love that both of you have the same name as a Jane Austen heroine!
For me, the worst thing about the 1986 Northanger Abbey is the cheesy music.....some scenes would have been perfectly fine and even normal without the strange, electronic, psychedelic music! As for a Persuasion prequel or flashback, we got just this here in July 2022 with Netflix' Persuasion.
So glad that you shouted out the Tamil Sense and Sensibility adaptation (and that you knew it was called Kollywood!). I'm a huge fan of Indian cinema (all regions) and I love that film, too. My favorite Emma is probably the Paltrow, just because Northam is the best Mr Knightley, but I like all of the adaptations. I assume you've seen the Indian (Hindi language) Emma? It's called Aisha starring Sonam Kapoor and owes much to Clueless as well. Sonam Kapoor was in a Disney produced film that you both would love called Khoobsurat (very modern princess-y vibes). And Fawad Khan is absolutely dreamy.
And have you read “Little Miss Austen?” a BabyLit literature series for toddlers. Adorable. My 2.5-yr-old enjoys these small, thick board books made for tiny hands.
Sorry I'm late but I wanted to mention David Morrisey wa probably around 44 years old when he played Brandon. Plus, back in those days, a 35 year old man probably looked in their 40s
Let me be a slight apologist for the 1999 Mansfield. I think it is better because they at least include the Portsmouth exile which makes more sense as a punishment for the introverted Fanny than staying home alone in the 2007 version. Moreover, rather vainly, I prefer that Tom, more handsome pound for pound than the 2007.
Of course, J.J. Field from Northanger Abbey plays a Darcy-esqe character in Austenland, which was terrible except I liked him and Keri Russell. 😂🤷🏻♀️You both are definitely more purist 😂 then me when it comes to the films! I cannot wait to watch the Bollywood Sense & Sensibility! This was so fun!
I saved this for today because I knew it was going to be very slow at work and this was the perfect delightful antidote! Thank you so much Emma and Ann! I'm totally with you on that Mr. Collins wave, Ann. It makes me laugh so hard. (Plus Charlotte's reaction) I love the 1940 Pride and Prejudice even though it is just wildly inaccurate in so many ways.
I have only read P&P after I watched the Kiera Knightly adaptation and then I read Persuasion because I had seen The Jane Austen Book Club and The Lake House which I think is either a modern adaptation of Persuasion and because they mention Persuasion in that movie. I also have watched the Hugh Grant, Emma Thompson and Professor Snape Sense & Sensibility adaption. I have also watched Clueless and the Gynweth Paltrow Emma and parts of the Anna Taylor Joy Emma. Should I read the other Jane Austen books ? And I have just watched the 2022 Persuasion and I loved it, it was exactly how I read the book.
I really enjoyed this video. Curled up with cup of tea to watch. Just out of curiosity have you watched Lost In Austen? Would love to hear your take on it.
Thanks Lucy! 😊 I'm not very familiar with Lost In Austen - I only watched a little bit of it quite awhile ago, I need to revisit it and refresh my memory sometime!
I enjoyed Lost in Austen for the fantasy/escapist concept and Back to the Future vibes. But I haven’t watched it in a long time, so it slipped my mind. Thanks for watching!
Certaintly agrees on most of your opinions especially on pride and prejudice ...the modern austen inspirered moies was new to me , though have seen the Indian version.....It was a funny surprise to see and experience with my daughters...
Reports say that in 1941 Pride and Pred judice clothing styles mismatch was ordered by the lead actresses because they thought that they looked better in Victorian style clothes rather than authentic Regency style clothes.
Also, in regard to Tom Lefroy, someone on youtube said that found that when he was a senior citizen, or. senior subject, in UK monarchy, he admitted to a younger family member that he had loved Jane Austen.
I'm not as familiar with the Jane Eyre adaptations, I need to watch more of them! I did watch the 2011 version when it came out and remember liking it!
My main issue with the pride & prejudice and zombies book is that it's just a copy paste. And if I wanted to read P&P I'd read the original. It would be one thing if the fight scenes would be integrated well into the rest of the text, but they stand out like a sore thumb. The movie adaptation is bad imo, Mr Darcy is the villain in the story. Like, at the church, the zombies in general (maybe not Wickham) are shown to be peaceful and unwilling to kill, so they survive on animals. Darcy the a-hole makes them eat human blood against their will and then kills them when the human blood makes them aggressive. That's like drugging the zombies. Before that, there are several zombies who are not only not mindless, but also peaceful, and Darcy kills them. Clearly he's the evil one. And we're supposed to root for him? Anyway, I always remember the 1970s Persuasion. The whole used to be on youtube, complete with polyester coats for everyone, some clearly cut from the same bolt, 70s hair, and stage acting on camera, it feels so over the top and very... enunciated. I love the 2007 Emma, as well as the Kate Beckinsale one. They both show the sweet side of Emma, that she does have good intentions, even if she does get it wrong a lot of the time.
you are the first person to mention that Lydia is tall, so is Mr Collins (as in the 1980 adaptation) and it really annoys me that she never is but please inform the American audience that Longbourne in 2005 film is surrounded by a moat not some sort of drainage ditch (however inappropriate)
I always thought that in 1995, Hugh Laurie should have been Col Brandon, instead of Mr Palmer. I too love the 1996 Emma because it's so well-edited and humorous. The 1999 Mansfield Park is an abomination. The 2005 P&P is definitely the Bronte version. Hated it.
I have watched all the Jane Austen movies and I have some strong opinions. 🤣 Pride and Prejudice: I love the 1980 version because I saw it first and I still think it was very well done. Of course 1995!!!!! . 2005 was the pits. Kiera is not Elizabeth Bennett. She looked conceited and she had an immoral look on her face in several instances. Carolyn Bingley was awful. did like Mrs Bennett better in this version and I liked the netherfield ball with all the girls in shades of white dresses. Emma: I love both the Gwyneth Paltrow and the Kate Beckinsale (best cast except Mark Strong, who was just ok) versions. I liked some things about the 2009 version but not all. Emma go I loved her Miss Bates was awful. Johnny Lee Miller did not seem like Mr Knightley. The Gwyneth Paltrow version had a lot of humor in it but most of the cast except for Jeremy Northern (who I love as Mr Knightley), seem too old. Sophie Thompson was excellent as Miss bates. Toni Collette awful as the very (as written) young, pretty Harriet Smith. Persuasion: 1995 the best. Perfect cast and acting.. the 2007 was embarrassing. Rupert is handsome but too soft to be a sea captain. Anne was awful.. And Mrs Smith the invalid running down the street??? Northanger Abbey: not a great one made yet. 2007 ok but it seems like Andrew Davies likes to beef up the immorality in all his adaptations. Isabella Thorpe in this one. Mr Tilney very good. Sense & Sensibility: more Andrew Davies at beginning. we learn later what Willoughby did, but he had to show it.
I love this, your points are spot on! My mom feels the same way about P&P, she loves the 1980, it is really good. I forgot about the invalid Mrs. Smith running down the street, that was pretty bad. 😆
I am a purest as well when it comes to adaptations and want a film to follow the book as closely as possible. However, not all scenes that work on paper will translate to the screen with the same effect and so some creative license must be taken in order for the scene to make sense. I do not like the modernization of the most recent Emma and Persuasion. Col Brandon and Snape were the same character and While I like Alan Rickman, he was too old for Col Brandon.
I hated the 2020 Emma, it actually made me angry that they would do that to Jane Austin. I really like the Paltrow version and the 2009 version with Romola Garai which was the first one I watched.
I agree with Colin and Jennifers version of pride and prejudice being the best. I watch it at least once a year. 😂
They're just superb, I rewatch that version all the time too. It's such a treat!
Dont hate me but my favorite is the 2020 Emma. I agree there are some weird things. But I think Emma is more acurate to the book like she would have appeared braty and selfish to people around her on the outside in the book even if we as the reader get to know her thoughts shes still acting that way. Thats what I like about Emma she has a good heart but shes selfish and she has to grow and work on that. Thats what makes Emma such a hopeful story:)
me too i like 2020 Emma.
I love it as well! It has by far the best Emma-Knightley chemistry, it looks gorgeous, Emma herself is spot on and yes, it leans heavily into the comedy but honestly, so does the book, its just more subtle.
My favourite Austen book has always been Persuasion and the best Captain Wentworth by a mile is Ciaran Hinds. For me, Rupert Penry-Jones is just wrong. Ciaran Hinds had the maturity and manliness and Amanda Root broke my heart playing Anne with the perfect mixture of regret and hope. It is probably my favourite Austen adaptation as they got everything right in my opinion, from the locations to the costume to the casting. It was perfect.
And Rupert Penry-Jones, cute as he is, looks he hasn't been to sea ever.
Agree. And, trust me, Ciaran Hinds is dreamy to a fair sum of us!
I agree! I love this version. Casting is spot on.
I loved listening to this, but to me Ciaran Hinds as Captain Wentworth was cast perfectly! I guess I’m an old lady but, “not dreamy”?? I think he’s absolutely beautiful!
I second this. That version of Persuasion was the truest to the spirit of the characters and by extension to the book.
He was good in the adaptation the mayor of casterbridge. Also a Catherine cookson drama the crying man I believe
Excuse me, Ciaran Hinds is scorching, the drapes are burning. 😍 Fun fact: Sophie Thompson (Miss Bates, Mary Musgrove) is Emma Thompson's sister.
I know Joe Wright's P&P is not historically or book accurate, but I love it. I love how it looks. I love the music. I love the direction and action choice for Lizzy and Darcy. And I love The Lizzie Bennet Diaries too. It's just so cute. And a great transcription of the story into a 2010s social media reality.
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I LOVE the 2005 P&P. I suppose it's because it was my introduction to the story (I had vaguely heard of it but hadn't read the book or seen any other adaptations at that point). I remember going to see it with my roommate and we were positively giddy for hours afterwards. :D Having read the book quite a few times now, I am very much aware of the differences between the book and the movie, but on the whole they just don't bother me (I will concede that the pig scene was very random and unnecessary, but it's a minor detail for me). The 1995 version is definitely closer to the book, largely because it has more time to tell the story, so if I'm in the mood to basically watch the book being acted out, that's the one I'll go for. But I think the 2005 one does a good job of condensing the main plot down to 2 hours, and overall I like the casting better.
Another thing: I know a lot of people say the 2005 version of the Bennetts seem kind of shabby, and they probably are portrayed as looking slightly poorer than Jane Austen had in mind, but I think the idea was to give us a better idea of the massive difference in income between them and the richer characters. When I watch the 1995 version I don't *really* get the sense that the Bennetts are in a rather precarious financial situation. Plus the 2005 Longbourn house feels actually lived in, whereas in 1995 it feels a little too neat and almost staged.
All that said, I very much enjoy the 1995 miniseries, and The Lizzie Bennett Diaries is brilliant.
As far as Emma goes, the 2009 version is excellent, so much so I'm very hesitant to watch any of the other period adaptations, because frankly I don't see how they could top that. I would encourage you both to give Emma Approved another shot. It took me a few episodes to get into it myself, but I really enjoyed it after that. Yes, Emma is not very likable at the start - but that's the point. She's supposed to be a bit spoiled and a know-it-all... who eventually realizes that she does not, in fact, know it all, and that her ideas of what will make people's lives better aren't always the best. She does genuinely mean well, and that's shown very early on (in the arc you were critiquing, actually), but she has a lot of growing up to do, and I think this format was a good way of letting us see her character development.
Anyway, I could go on, but that was my 2 cents. I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts. :)
Bennets were not poor by any means. The problem was that after mr Bennet dies they'll they'll lose their main source of income to mr Collins.
I’m still cracking up over our Emma adaptation debacle. 😆 It was SO MUCH FUN chatting with you, as always, and hearing your fantastic Jane Austen insight!
The BBC version of Pride and Prejudice is my favorite. That scene of Wickham trying to convince Georgiana to elope with him inspired the novel "Wickham's Second Attempt". I hope that one day that book becomes #WickhamMovie
Funny enough, back in the day, that 1980’s version of Northanger Abbey was my introduction to Jane Austen and made want to read all her novels. I loved the gothic feel of it and the melodramatic heroine; and I loved how JA was poking fun at her own generation as well as warning of the dangers of getting swept up in such silliness. I love the growth arc of Katherine as she sees how ridiculous she’s been, and Peter Firth (who plays Henry Tilney) is so extremely charming! (One of my favorite JA heroes ever) 80’s movies are notoriously dated due to the music of that era, but at the time, it was as distracting as it is now. I also have to say that the ending of that version is so so good! Way better than the book which is so anticlimactic to such a melodramatic heroine. I will always love that version because it led me to discover the richness of reading all of Jane Austen as a young adult - which makes me value her work all the more.
This was such a fun video to watch as its clear you both love JA so much! Thank you!
I really dislike the 2005 P&P adaptation. First thing that bugged me was how destitute Longbourn looked and that they chose a house sorrounded by a water canal that Lizzy had to cross through some rickety bridge. The house is a beautiful historical structure but not Longbourn. But what really pushed me to the edge was the love confession under the rain. I could only cringe at the melodramatics, and the second thought was wondering if they just ruined Lizzie's reputation, if she was compromised by being alone unchaperoned under the rain with a man, because they wanted the theatrical rain scene without thinking beyond the visuals.
Thank you both for taking the time to do this. It was such a lovely way to spend the evening. I really like the Persuasion prequel idea.
I feel so validated with my love of the 80s Mansfield Park!! It's one of my favorite overall adaptations for the exact reasons you state - it's so true to the story even though Fanny is not really a dynamic or vibrant character. The casting is SPOT ON and it really tells the whole narrative very faithfully.
Your comments at 35:02 overlook Jonny Lee Miller's child actor role in the 1982 Mansfield Park as Charles Price, making a triple with his 1996 Mansfield as Edmund Bertram and his 2008 Emma as Knightley.
🤯 I had no idea he played Charles Price as a little boy in the 1982 adaptation, just looked it up now. That's awesome!
the colin firth and Jennifer ehle version is my favorite Jane Austen film Adaptation.
The 2016 Love and Friendship was a very stylized production, very much like the 2020 Emma. As a person who has read Lady Susan about a dozen times, I was not confused by the movie, so maybe that's the key. I LOVED it, laughed out loud all the way through, and really enjoyed the beautiful settings, costumes, and music, in addition to the wonderful performances!
Ha-ha, I agree with you on the 90s version of Emma. I thought it was wonderful! There is no better Mr Knightley to me!
What a delightful episode. Lovely. Please do this type of event again. More Austen is always Merrier. Happy Christmas, ladies. I ❤️ Knightley.
This was such a great discussion, thank you! I really liked how you analysed everything. And I especially agreed with your assessment of the Pride and Prejudice adaptations. "Brönttification" is really a great way to describe the 2005 version. And to the pig in the house I will add Mr. Bennet's orchids - what was that all about??
I loved this video! Have either of you seen Lost in Austen the ITV drama from 2008? I think you would have fun with it xx
I am in the minority, but the Keira knightly pride and prejudice was the first one I watched, and forever will be my favorite one. I watched both, and they are both good. But that one is just pride and prejudice to me.
Did you read Mary B by the author Katherine Chen? It’s written from Mary’s perspective (Pride and Prejudice). I’ve always wondered about her character, and how it would feel to be so dismissed and discounted in favor of her prettier and more charming sisters. Really good novel!
I want to read "The Other Bennet Sister". I think Mary has gotten a lot more popular in modern times. There's quite a bit of debate over how things would pan out for her if she had a more modern education.
what breaks my heart in 1995 S&S is when Col Brandon and Marianne comes out of the church you see Willohby on his horse looking down with bittersweet longing of what could have been
on a side note Emma Thompsons first marriage ended in divorce
she met and later married a man who was in the movie
who did she marry the man who played Willohby
( still are happily married)
so in a strange sort of way
Willohby did live happily ever after with Elenor!
I'm so excited for Mr. Malcolms List!!! The book is so great as well as Miss Lattimore's Letter ( :
I've always felt that MP was a thought experiment what if Anne de Burgh was the underdog and Lizzy was privileged and what Lady Catherine believed her to be. Also because I have to say this.....Edmund annoys me in the book so very very much so I'm glad to have my opinion validated.
I get such a strong feeling while reading MP that among other things, Austen used it as vehicle to speak Mary Crawfords thoughts. You can just tell from the way her words are crafted vs Fannys, that Mary seemed more self aware, and I don’t know the right word, but-insightful? Original? While being of course scandalous for the time. I don’t mean that Austen wanted to make her the heroine. But I definitely feel like as a character she enjoyed writing Mary more than Fanny. And was more proud of it.
I always thought Mary Crawford was Elizabeth Bennet without the moral compass.
Bravo ladies, well done! I would like to see an adaptation where the characters age in the book and the actors portraying them are the same. xo
Thanks Gwen! Ohh, I love that idea, an Austen sequel with the same actors would be amazing!!
Thank you! I love that idea, too!
Lost in Austen is fun
I was at a JASNA General Meeting where we watched Prada to Nada, and Andrew Davies was there and they got him to watch it too!!! I didn't hear his comments on it, but his comments on his S&S were really interesting.
olivia willams who plays jane austen in miss austen regrets plays jane fairfax in the kate beckinsale version of Emma.
You Two really love Austen. It's so all over your face and your enthusiasm. It's like you guys can watch austen all day.
Thank you for the recommendation of the 1983 Mansfield Park. While the sound design drives me crazy, it is a quite good adaptation, and I do think the actress who plays Fanny does a good job at portraying her as meek but strong-willed.
I thought the "scoldiest" Mr. Knightley was Mark Strong. I can't remember the year of that adaptation. It might have been the same as the one with Gwyneth Paltrow.
It was the one with Kate Beckinsale.
Jeremy Northam was Knightley to Paltrow’s Emma and, in my opinion, the best one. 😉
I would absolute adore a literary/Disney podcast by you two!
Glad to see you together again. Enjoyed your video!!
I LOVED this! Regarding the adaptations of Emma, I'm with Anne - the 2009 is my favourite, and the Gyneth Paltrow one is my least favourite, but Emma's love for it has definitely made me want to watch it again too 😆 Also, I just love that both of you have the same name as a Jane Austen heroine!
From Mansfield with Love which is a vlog series on youtube is my favorite Mansfield Park Adaptation.
What a fun idea for a video! I skipped to the Pride and Prejudice section first. Lol. Now back to watch the rest. 😂
Haha, love it! Thanks for watching! 😄
I love how they didn't even mention the Netflix Persuation atrocity.
For me, the worst thing about the 1986 Northanger Abbey is the cheesy music.....some scenes would have been perfectly fine and even normal without the strange, electronic, psychedelic music! As for a Persuasion prequel or flashback, we got just this here in July 2022 with Netflix' Persuasion.
Actually, the costumes in the 2020 Emma version were the most historically accurate of all the Emma adaptations.
Sense & Sensibility was the one Andrew Davies did as well as P&P.
Considering there were Brits who thought Psltron was a Brit, I think she did a good job with the accent.
So glad that you shouted out the Tamil Sense and Sensibility adaptation (and that you knew it was called Kollywood!). I'm a huge fan of Indian cinema (all regions) and I love that film, too. My favorite Emma is probably the Paltrow, just because Northam is the best Mr Knightley, but I like all of the adaptations. I assume you've seen the Indian (Hindi language) Emma? It's called Aisha starring Sonam Kapoor and owes much to Clueless as well. Sonam Kapoor was in a Disney produced film that you both would love called Khoobsurat (very modern princess-y vibes). And Fawad Khan is absolutely dreamy.
I love 2009 Emma. It's my favorite JA adaptation. Also, that Mr Knightley is Jonny Lee Miller, who was Angelina Jolie's first husband.
bride and prejudice has aishwarya rai who would play the Bollywood version of Elizabeth Bennet.
And have you read “Little Miss Austen?” a BabyLit literature series for toddlers. Adorable. My 2.5-yr-old enjoys these small, thick board books made for tiny hands.
Great video! I loved watching this. Great job!
Sorry I'm late but I wanted to mention David Morrisey wa probably around 44 years old when he played Brandon. Plus, back in those days, a 35 year old man probably looked in their 40s
Let me be a slight apologist for the 1999 Mansfield. I think it is better because they at least include the Portsmouth exile which makes more sense as a punishment for the introverted Fanny than staying home alone in the 2007 version. Moreover, rather vainly, I prefer that Tom, more handsome pound for pound than the 2007.
I total agree! Most leave large parts of the books out and this 1999 version is very cohesive.
Of course, J.J. Field from Northanger Abbey plays a Darcy-esqe character in Austenland, which was terrible except I liked him and Keri Russell. 😂🤷🏻♀️You both are definitely more purist 😂 then me when it comes to the films! I cannot wait to watch the Bollywood Sense & Sensibility! This was so fun!
You’ve didn’t mention Bridget Jones Diary 2 as Persuasion adaption.
Andrew Davies first adaptation was P&P 1995
I saved this for today because I knew it was going to be very slow at work and this was the perfect delightful antidote! Thank you so much Emma and Ann! I'm totally with you on that Mr. Collins wave, Ann. It makes me laugh so hard. (Plus Charlotte's reaction) I love the 1940 Pride and Prejudice even though it is just wildly inaccurate in so many ways.
I have only read P&P after I watched the Kiera Knightly adaptation and then I read Persuasion because I had seen The Jane Austen Book Club and The Lake House which I think is either a modern adaptation of Persuasion and because they mention Persuasion in that movie. I also have watched the Hugh Grant, Emma Thompson and Professor Snape Sense & Sensibility adaption. I have also watched Clueless and the Gynweth Paltrow Emma and parts of the Anna Taylor Joy Emma. Should I read the other Jane Austen books ? And I have just watched the 2022 Persuasion and I loved it, it was exactly how I read the book.
I really enjoyed this video. Curled up with cup of tea to watch.
Just out of curiosity have you watched Lost In Austen? Would love to hear your take on it.
Thanks Lucy! 😊 I'm not very familiar with Lost In Austen - I only watched a little bit of it quite awhile ago, I need to revisit it and refresh my memory sometime!
I enjoyed Lost in Austen for the fantasy/escapist concept and Back to the Future vibes. But I haven’t watched it in a long time, so it slipped my mind. Thanks for watching!
Certaintly agrees on most of your opinions especially on pride and prejudice ...the modern austen inspirered moies was new to me , though have seen the Indian version.....It was a funny surprise to see and experience with my daughters...
Is it just me but when it comes to Persausion I want to see a version with Amanda Root and Rupert Penry-Jones
Have you seen Lost in austen 2008? Thats a really fun watch!
Manfield Park--try the 1999 version which is not mentioned. Very good adaptation.
Reports say that in 1941 Pride and Pred
judice clothing styles mismatch was
ordered by the lead actresses because
they thought that they looked better in
Victorian style clothes rather than authentic Regency style clothes.
Also, in regard to Tom Lefroy, someone
on youtube said that found that when he
was a senior citizen, or. senior subject, in UK monarchy, he admitted to a younger
family member that he had loved Jane
Austen.
Have you seen British tv miniseries Lost in Austin? Quite interesting
I loved the Colonel Brandon in the Indian version of S&S.
Good afternoon
today is July 2022
Persuasion with Dakota Johnson is now on Netflix
what is your expert opinion on this recent adaptation ?
Thank you for this.
Do you have any on the adaptations of Jane Eyre?
I'm not as familiar with the Jane Eyre adaptations, I need to watch more of them! I did watch the 2011 version when it came out and remember liking it!
Alan Rickman was 39 when he did Coronal Brandon.
Have you guys read captain wentworth’s diary by Amanda grange?it tells wentworths side of the story
I would love to hear your views on Lost in Austen..
My main issue with the pride & prejudice and zombies book is that it's just a copy paste. And if I wanted to read P&P I'd read the original. It would be one thing if the fight scenes would be integrated well into the rest of the text, but they stand out like a sore thumb. The movie adaptation is bad imo, Mr Darcy is the villain in the story. Like, at the church, the zombies in general (maybe not Wickham) are shown to be peaceful and unwilling to kill, so they survive on animals. Darcy the a-hole makes them eat human blood against their will and then kills them when the human blood makes them aggressive. That's like drugging the zombies. Before that, there are several zombies who are not only not mindless, but also peaceful, and Darcy kills them. Clearly he's the evil one. And we're supposed to root for him?
Anyway, I always remember the 1970s Persuasion. The whole used to be on youtube, complete with polyester coats for everyone, some clearly cut from the same bolt, 70s hair, and stage acting on camera, it feels so over the top and very... enunciated.
I love the 2007 Emma, as well as the Kate Beckinsale one. They both show the sweet side of Emma, that she does have good intentions, even if she does get it wrong a lot of the time.
you are the first person to mention that Lydia is tall, so is Mr Collins (as in the 1980 adaptation) and it really annoys me that she never is but please inform the American audience that Longbourne in 2005 film is surrounded by a moat not some sort of drainage ditch (however inappropriate)
I always thought that in 1995, Hugh Laurie should have been Col Brandon, instead of Mr Palmer. I too love the 1996 Emma because it's so well-edited and humorous. The 1999 Mansfield Park is an abomination. The 2005 P&P is definitely the Bronte version. Hated it.
Ramola garais is in Daniel Deronda.
least favorite is Modern Persuasion ..... the new 2022 Netflix Persuasion says hold my beer
If something is so bad that you can't even finish watching it, than it's the worst one by default.
1980 P&P is the best. Elizabeth Garvie was born to be Lizzie, and I rather like Rintoul's progression as Darcy.
I have watched all the Jane Austen movies and I have some strong opinions. 🤣 Pride and Prejudice: I love the 1980 version because I saw it first and I still think it was very well done. Of course 1995!!!!! . 2005 was the pits. Kiera is not Elizabeth Bennett. She looked conceited and she had an immoral look on her face in several instances. Carolyn Bingley was awful. did like Mrs Bennett better in this version and I liked the netherfield ball with all the girls in shades of white dresses. Emma: I love both the Gwyneth Paltrow and the Kate Beckinsale (best cast except Mark Strong, who was just ok) versions. I liked some things about the 2009 version but not all. Emma go I loved her Miss Bates was awful. Johnny Lee Miller did not seem like Mr Knightley. The Gwyneth Paltrow version had a lot of humor in it but most of the cast except for Jeremy Northern (who I love as Mr Knightley), seem too old. Sophie Thompson was excellent as Miss bates. Toni Collette awful as the very (as written) young, pretty Harriet Smith. Persuasion: 1995 the best. Perfect cast and acting.. the 2007 was embarrassing. Rupert is handsome but too soft to be a sea captain. Anne was awful.. And Mrs Smith the invalid running down the street??? Northanger Abbey: not a great one made yet. 2007 ok but it seems like Andrew Davies likes to beef up the immorality in all his adaptations. Isabella Thorpe in this one. Mr Tilney very good. Sense & Sensibility: more Andrew Davies at beginning. we learn later what Willoughby did, but he had to show it.
I love this, your points are spot on! My mom feels the same way about P&P, she loves the 1980, it is really good. I forgot about the invalid Mrs. Smith running down the street, that was pretty bad. 😆
What is an immoral look?
I am a purest as well when it comes to adaptations and want a film to follow the book as closely as possible. However, not all scenes that work on paper will translate to the screen with the same effect and so some creative license must be taken in order for the scene to make sense. I do not like the modernization of the most recent Emma and Persuasion.
Col Brandon and Snape were the same character and While I like Alan Rickman, he was too old for Col Brandon.
Just wait til you see the horrid new Dakota Johnson version of persuasion on Netflix!
I do enjoy 1983 Mansfield Park all the charactors were superb
the other adaptation I found were lacking ...
poor imitations
Greer Garson my least favorite adaptation.
I hated the 2020 Emma, it actually made me angry that they would do that to Jane Austin. I really like the Paltrow version and the 2009 version with Romola Garai which was the first one I watched.
There are so many awful adaptations thar the few good ones really stand out.
The 1995 Persuasion was so boring; I tried to watch it twice and couldn’t even finish it.