I have a feeling that a better adaptation would be one where Anne is presented as someone coping and overcoming narcissistic abuse from her father and oldest sister
My favorite version is the 1995. I haven’t read the book, but I love the 1995 film. To be honest I related a lot to Anne. I used to be extremely shy and quiet. I like everything about the 1995 version. It just makes so much sense. Anne is rational but also very insecure. She’s made mistakes and she’s ashamed and basically realizes that she doesn’t have any friends either-no one who really cares about her after “becoming a spinster” essentially. However instead of lashing out she takes the cruel comments and treatment because she knows ultimately that it was her fault for rejecting the man she loved just because her family told her to (basically choosing money and listening to people she knew didn’t really love her as they should) and she quietly starts to make amends, she starts doing the right thing. That’s why she cannot be a Lizzy Bennet or Emma-it’s because her story is actually basically one of repentance, she’s literally the character who chose money and rank over true love. Whereas Elizabeth and Emma did not make that mistake. Anne has always been insecure of herself and looks for safety, but that actually led to her misfortune. Whereas Elisabeth and Emma are not looking for safety but are naturally confident and aren’t really that concerned about losing their wealth/their safety so much. Emma’s just wealthy with no worries of that. Elisabeth is already not wealthy and she does have a little bit of fear of being even worse off, but she’s naturally strong willed. Anne is the character who was born into wealth and rank, and she’s naturally shy and insecure. She fell in love with a man who had nothing and unfortunately because she’s afraid and naturally always been insecure (probably compounded by her family being the type to compare others and nitpick everything) she runs away back to “safety.” But, then only much later realizes that basically pursuing what appears to be safe actually isn’t-that basically life, that whatever is meaningful in life, does involve some risk. And that you have to be brave sometimes.
well, elizabeth bennet’s love interest happens to be very rich, so she doesn’t actually face a dilemma like pre-novel anne elliott. no bravery required there
I'm a 1995 fan just because I feel it so perfectly encapsulates the spirit of the book as well as those "blink and you miss them" moments that Austen describes, like glances between people and tiny details, like Mr. Elliot admiring Anne's beauty in Lyme and Captain Wentworth noticing his admiration of her. I don't like how Elizabeth is such a grump, but Sir Walter is properly ridiculous and Mary is excellent. But you've given me a lot of food for thought about the Sally Hawkins one! The marathon and weird kiss were very off-putting for me, but I will watch it again with a fresh perspective!
I will admit I've not seen your #1 pick, but I'll still suggest you should have gone with your first instinct. The Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root adaptation is PERFECT, the best Jane Austen adaptation I've seen. Hinds looks and acts like a sea captain, and Amanda looks like a slightly faded near-beauty. She is prettier and more suited to the role than your choice, and the other Captain Wentworth is too young and looks more like a stuck-up baron than anyone connected with the sea.
Bad choice - 1995 Persuasion was so much better. 2007 Persuasion was millennial. And that running around Bath at the end was seriously awful. Meanwhile 2022 Persuasion is a car crash.
I adore the 1995 version for the aesthetic and Captain Wentworth, as well as the subtle storytelling and cosy, unpolished feel. However, I think Sally Hawkin's performance in the 2007 version is absolutely heartbreaking and gives me a different perspective of Anne's character. Amanda Root's Anne is more at peace with her grief, whereas Sally's Anne is still in a state of mourning. Both Annes are fascinating.
Yeah, I think Sally Hawkins is terrific and there is much to recommend the 2007 version and I liked some of the other performances as well. Like a few people here though, I think I prefer the 1995 version, Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds are perfect in the roles.
love your insights! my fave version is 1995, but i liked 2007 as well! i think the quietness and subtleness of 1995 suited the story better haha. i tried watching the series, i couldnt finish it ahhh
What really, REALLY, bothers me about the 2007 version is that Sally Hawkins' Anne is ... a mouth breather! Drove me insane! Kept wanting to close her mouth the whole time. That to me was a deal breaker. I found she practically had the same frightened-deer expression throughout. The movie was very good in general, but no match for the 1995 version. The Wood/Hinds combo for me was perfection itself. Also, in my opinion all the characters were well portrayed in that movie, and the cinematography was gorgeous as was the soundtrack. A pure delight. Thank you so much for this series. I too a-do-re Austen! You're great! I found you by chance and I'm subscribing to your channel.
2007 is my favorite. Not that I don't adore 1995, I do! But I appreciate exactly the same moments you mentioned: -Wentworth giving a very faint smile at the opportunity to help Anne after she falls from the log -Anne running so shamefully through the streets after a man! -heartbroken gaze that Sally conveys (breaks my heart too) -the convo about Wentworth getting himself tied up with Louisa -Wentworth hoisting Anne onto the carriage. By the way, I also appreciate the carriage scene in 1995. If I didn't know any better, I would have concluded that Wentworth is just seeking an excuse to grope Anne! 😉😄 -my personal favorite: Wentworth's shattered look melting away as Anne denies the rumours and his expression clears away like a gloomy sky giving way to the sun. Someone in the comments said Rupert isn't as good of an actor as Ciaran, and that's simply false. Demonstratively false.
I'm a 1995 ride or die fan ( ;- ), but I do like the way you explain about the 2007 "It just makes me feel the same way as when I read the book." I think that's the most important thing to do in an adaptation, for sure.
I literally love how passionate you are about this. Makes me want to rewatch the 2007 one. 😭. Also this is so random but what lip product are you wearing??? It’s so pretty
I know you find the earlier versions boring, but from another perspective, if you had been around in the 70/'s, 80's you would have been so grateful for these adaptations. They gave avid Jane Austen fans, especially in the UK, the chance to see our most beloved books acted out. So cut the older generation some slack. Most of these actors were stage/theatre actors and if you watch any BBC series from that era you will find they are all done in this fashion. Look up some old Charles Dickens versions or indeed Jane Eyre with Timothy Dalton.
I definitely see myself as part Anne Elliot and Elinor Dashwood. Much like my favorite Shakespeare play, Much Ado About Nothing, Persuasion doesn't get many adaptations and is seriously underrated!
Sophie Thompson as Mary in 1995 was just fine, but then she went on to be Miss Bates so brilliantly in Emma (1996) that I feel like she eclipsed her own performance.
For the 2007 version and the purchase of Kellynch, I always felt like it was hearkening back to the beginning where the conversations between Anne and Lady Russell reveal that the Bath Plan was the only way to avoid selling Kellynch (which tells us that Kellynch being sold was possible) and that Anne is the only person in that family even trying to keep an eye on the budget. It's perhaps a *little* bit rushed, but I do think that it makes sense - in a romance novel sense of the word "sense" - that without Anne her father would soon be forced to sell Kellynch, and Wentworth could then buy it.
I love listening to your opinions. So good! I too love Jane Austen and totally agree that it’s difficult to choose between these two versions but I believe you were correct because of the supporting characters. For some reason I have never been able to get into Mansfield Park. I need to try again. Don’t know why. Love all the others.
I think Ann Elliot allowed herself to be "persuaded" at the age of 19 to reject Frederick Wentworth. But I think she so regretted the decision that she grew a backbone. She turned down Charles Musgrove. She assisted Lady Russell in persuading her father and sister to "retrench." She displayed the coolest and most decisive mind when Louisa bopped her head on a rock. She single-handedly pulled Mr. Benwick out of his depression. She told her father she was visiting Mrs. Smith on the wrong side of town instead of sucking up to Lady Dalrymple, and she drop-kicked William Elliot into oblivion. And for being such a goody-two-shoes, she got her man Frederick Wentworth in the end. She was most decisive in accepting his proposal! I think her level-headedness while all around her were acting silly or were enthralled by peerage is what endears her to me. I've only seen the 2007 version once. Movies that have "running scenes" in them really annoy me. Having Ann run all over Bath trying to track down Frederick was pretty stupid. "Sickly" Ann running all over Bath? Any woman running all over Bath back in those days? Nope, sorry.
Much as I adore the fact that you are having a slightly controversial opinion on the adaptations, I have to say that, while neither the 90s version nor the 2007 version impressed me that much, after watching the 2007 version I realized how much better OVERALL the 90s version is, because even though the 2007 version definitely had better cinematography, I didn't like how they portrayed Mrs. Smith (and I was hoping they would go more into her backstory than the 90s version does), but when it didn't, and I found the actress who portrayed her somewhat forgettable, I realized how much more I loved Mrs. Smith in the 90s version. I also didn't like how they didn't have Anne say her "women loving longest" line in front of Wentworth, I think they removed that from their relationship's story for no reason. I ALSO didn't like how they made Mrs. Smith more abled, and had Anne running through the streets of Bath like it was modern-day and not a time when she would have most certainly have been labeled as unhinged by anyone who saw her doing that. But yeah, I think my biggest issue was the portrayal of Mrs. Smith. Overall, I think Persuasion just deserves a better adaptation than the ones we've gotten so far and the one that's being made right now.
I love both! I’m grateful the 1995 is more accurate with some of the sweetest moments like the end letter scene. So good!! Perfect chemistry and satisfying trueness to the characters. They looked the part completely to me. I saw the 2007 first and was all for going in deep with their intense longing for each other. I didn’t understand the plot fully but boy did I understand all those looks, Anne’s private confidences of pain with us, and Wentworths emotional process that he shows with those expressive eyes. Without knowing the plot, I could follow what he was thinking/feeling from his face alone and it makes sense that in this adaptation Anne is portrayed as so much less able to communicate smoothly because it’s highlighting the emotional overwhelm more than wanting to be accurate. If I didn’t have both versions I’d be missing out on seeing it from two swoony perspectives! Here’s hoping they do another amazing version, maybe a mini series to do it justice and we can all pretend the 2022 never happened,lol.
Oh my, I despised all the running at the end. I agree the cast is brilliant, but the running! 1995 is my favorite. I just found your channel. Brilliant!
Hi, my interpretation of the last scene is that he pays her father's debts and they can go back to live there... thank you for your video...very nicely watch!
I haven't watched the 2007 version yet, since I love the 1995 version so much, but now that 2022 has happened and everything you said about 2007 I know I would love, I'll definitely watch it now and love 1995 and 2007 wholeheartedly.
Read the book and watched all four versions (including the recent 2022 Gen-Z enabled mash-up). When the 2007 version aired, it suffered criticism for its break of the 4th wall, character/plot omissions, and ‘snazzy’ camera shots. It is also my favourite adaptation for all the reasons you gave. Indeed, you presented all my thoughts on the three earlier adaptations . . . and we’ve never met. Clever girl; brilliant insight and great presentation. Looking forward to your Persuasion 2022 review. If it’s up already I’ll eventually find it.
YES! THANK YOU! I always get hanged because I prefer 2007 over 1995 and this is the first time someone actually agrees with me. I always felt like ... okay, no, backing up. When I first read Persuasion I was 27 yo like Anne is in the book and I idenfied with her SO much. And I always felt that the 95 actors were too old for the part and that kinda killed for me bc wtf I did NOT look like that at 27. And I also love Sally Hawkins! I actully agree with every single thing you mentioned so no point in listing them all. I just agree with it all. And you know what, the "shaky" camera in the 2007 version that gets so much hate- for me it helps the viewer to identify with Anne, it's like we're her with her, running through Bath. (and that final kiss?? yeah, he loves her and she loves him but HE'S STILL SALTY HE MISSED 8YRS lol)
I know this may sound strange, but people aged more quickly in the past. The life of a naval officer at sea would have destroyed the good looks of the 2007 Wentworth. During this period, being an unmarried woman in your late twenties made you an "old maid," a spinster. Today we have all sorts of beauty products to make us look "young" well into what was once considered middle age. I think the 1995 Anne represented a Regency spinster quite well. (Keep in mind, Jane Austrn considered herself an old maid well before 30, and dressed so.) Interestingly, the 1995 adaptation shows Anne looking progressively "younger" and better dressed after she is reunited with Wentworth. Almost as if she has recovered her youthful "bloom"!
I disliked the Sally Hawkins version especially the running around. She looked mostly gormless and slack-mouthed. And that kiss was painfully ridiculous. I have not yet seen the new one but the previews are not promising as they completely change Anne’s character to a snarky 21st century teenager who drinks. So my preference is the Root Hinds version.
I have to reread Persuasion ASAP to get this mess of a film out of my mind. The theme song and some of the photography was good. I agree that the actress who played the younger sister had an original spin on her role and added entertaining dimension to her character. The Lady Russell actress also was wonderful even though the rewrite of her part was just so wrong. Dakota Johnson performed as the role was written and directed, however, as you said, this movie is a mess and it was painful to watch. Can't imagine sitting through it again. I plan to go to your backlog and binge to catch up with your views. Great job.
So I'd never seen the version with Sally Hawkins, but I really like Sally Hawkins so I decided to watch it. I must say, she's it. She's the only thing I like about this movie. I can't say I liked anything else. And dear lord, who decided on so much shaky cam. You said you really liked her mad dash around the city, but it really became improbable, the whole reason Wallis is a thing is because Mrs Smith is infirm. So meeting her out walking on the street annoyed me. Also Mrs Smith had enough reason to dislike Mr Elliott without claiming that Mrs Clay was perfectly willing to become a mistress, which is frankly an outrageous accusation for the time.
This was fun and interesting, and you are so charming and sharp! You must have killed in your English lit classes. I wish you had included longer clips from the movies so we could better appreciate your points, however. Can't wait to see your comparison of Pride and Prejudice versions.
I have only watched the 2007 version once because the 1995 version was so good and the final running all over Bath scene just ruined it for me it made no sense that everyone was out at the same time just waiting for Anne to run by I felt like they had run out of time and wanted to cram everything in at once. The costumes also were pretty lacklustre so I never bothered buying it.
11:39 That was the sand shaker to help dry or seal fresh ink to a sheet of paper. Fount of trivia here. :) Personally, I love Anne Elliott so much for many of the same reasons I love Sansa Stark--you cannot imagine them doing anything akin to James Bond, so in a truly fundamental way they are more like me. The courage and strength to endure and wait is not valued, but is often one of the most crucial things needed in life.
I haven't seen the other versions, but the 2007 was good up until that horribly awkward kiss at the end. I don't agree that it was cute! Even if it were, cute is not what we want at that moment. That moment merits a passionate kiss that doesn't hold back on either side. I cringe just thinking about how they chose to perform it in the film.
Oh my god I totally agree with you Sally Hawkins is the best Ann she actually made me cry and I have watched it so many times and will watch it again and again 👍👍👍👍
He doesn't buy Kellynch technically, he bails her father out of debt in order that they can live there. I guess when Sir Walter dies, Mr Elliot would probably inherit. Also I agree with you apart from the Anne/Harville convo and letter scene, that was way better in the earlier version because truer to the books and, as you said, super cute when Wentworth realises
I do love the 2007 persuasion film but I think the 1995 film is better, because it’s more accurate to the book. I think Amanda and Ciaran’s portrayals of Anne and Wentworth were phenomenal but I also think they were both far too old to play the characters. I hold the 2007 film very close in my heart, because it was my introduction to persuasion and it made me go read the book, but the 1995 version is the best adaptation of persuasion.
It was a 70s TV production. They definitely used well-worn sets and costumes from the BBC scenery and costume department and the hairstyles were done by a staff makeup artist who probably also did the news people's hair and makeup. It was all about the budget.
There are things about the 2007 version that I really like, but Amanda Root is so *physically* Anne Elliott and her portrayal is so on point - and the overheard conversation and letter scenes so powerful - that 1995 will always be my favorite.
I do prefer the 1995 version to the 2007 one, but that is largely due to that repressed longing the actors have together. Just the intensity of their eye contact. So. Good. But the 2007 one is fun.
That longing makes their kiss that much sweeter. In 1995 the very tall Wentworth bent down to kiss the much shorter Anne. I believe it symbolizes her complete vindication in his eyes. Ok. The circus showing up is rather weird and incongruous. I really don't get it. Even after 26yrs.
I loved the rest of the world moving on round them while they only exist for each other. They are still while the circus parade brings excitement. I remember, as a very small child,a circus parade walking from the train station through my town. It was so exciting I was determined to go and see the show. Great advertising.
Sally Hawkins really was wonderful as in the 2007, but I like the 1995 better, too. The ending is much better, and as hot as Rupert Penry Jones was, Ciaran Hinds was wonderful. More weathered and believable.
@@amysbees6686 I think that they wanted to show that even amid chaos their Love is steadfast and calm. Also, they only have eyes for each other and nothing can now persuade them to deviate from this love bubble
@@amysbees6686 I think it was meant to show how the noise and busyness of the world around them can't touch their love and the world they will build together - but yeah, it was kind of jarring. Not as bad by a long shot as the marathon of bath and the hungry bird kiss, but you can be a lot better than those and still not be great.😉
Ciaran Hinds looked like a man who had spent many years at sea, had been in battles, and was used to commanding men. Rupert Penry-Jones looked like a man who wouldn't know a bowsprit from a yardarm. To me, such things matter. The 1995 version, to me, is quite beautiful. It takes the novel and translates it into a great film. I became a bit annoyed watching the 2007, especially when Wentworth bought Kellynch. Why? Even if it had been possible, given that entail issue, surely the best thing for Anne was to get away from there? It allowed her to grow as a woman, with a husband who loved her, one who needed nothing from Kellynch, except Anne.
he was quite old though. He looked like he could be Louisa's or Henrietta's father. It wasn't stated that Wentworth bought kellynch, he could have rented it. It is only your assumption that moving away from Kellynch would have been what's best for Anne, this is not a fact. Perhaps staying at Kellynch, which was attractive enough (to Anne) when she was considering Mr. Elliot as a prospect, shows that she would flourish there. It was where she felt safe, and some people flourish where they feel comfortable and safe.
@@Bibirallie In the novel Wentworth is roughly in his early thirties so about 12 years older than Louisa. In Austen's novels there are a few marriages with significant age differences: Emma and George Knightley, Marianne and Colonel Brandon, Colonel and Mrs Forster. The adaptations tend to shy away from these age gaps. During the Napoleonic wars Wentworth would have been an heroic, romantic figure to the Musgrove girls, especially with his association with their wastrel brother. And, IMHO Hinds captured that. He looked like a brave dignified and attractive commander of men. Penry Jones didn't. And that should matter. And re living at Kellynch? I don't think Anne was ever really happy there. It was a place she had to live in but not really a home for her. It was in Bath and Lyme that she came alive. It was Lady Russell who urged Anne to marry her cousin, but that was a price too high for Kellynch. Anne no longer needed Kellynch when she had Wentworth which Austen sort of makes clear in the novel. Persuasion is probably my favourite Austen novel. The Root/Hinds adaptation I think captured its autumnal beauty. My favourite Austen adaptation by far.
The 1995 film is my favourite. Simply because 'the boy' in the 2007 film might be able to sulk decoratively, but was never ever out on sea for a decade as a captain. He looks far too young and unweathered. That's why I'm extremely biased towards Ciaran Hinds. When I saw the 2007 captain, I went into full Lady Russel-Mode and told Screen-Anne: 'THAT one? Dear, drop him. That's no seasoned captain, that's an impostor. There is nothing about that boy that deserves your attention. - If it must be a captain, pick that Harvey, that boy is not worth a single quick step in Bath."
It's funny I have the completely opposite reaction from you between the 2007 and 1995. I preferred the 1995 version. I felt Sally Hawkins was just a little too nervous and angsty. I found the supporting cast from the 1995 memorable. Particularly Sophie Thompson as Mary and Sam West as Mr Elliot. That kiss in the 2007 version was just too goofy for words
2007’s Anne had _ZERO_ glamorous good looks either. I don’t mind that Wentworth was drop-dead gorgeous, it’s my favorite part and I’m not a bit ashamed to admit it. 🤤🤤🤤
One part I absolutely adore with the 2007 adaption, is when Captain Wentworth introduces Anne to Harville, and Harville knows exactly who she is and what she has been to his good friend. We see that Wentworth has told Harville about Anne at some previous time, which shows us a lot, both about Harville and Wentworth's friendship, and about how deeply hurt Wentworth has been by his relationship with Anne. (Wait a minute, you're Miss ANNE Elliot?! Dude!) But I have to vote for the 1995 as my favorite - it just gets Anne and Wentworth so perfectly.
I thought I liked the 2007 one more, but recently went back to watch the 1995 one, and boy! it gave me ALL the feels!! It was pretty amazing! but I really like both the adaptations tho...
Love the 2007 version better. Anne Eliot 2005 version looks 40 and it's hard to imagine her as 27. I know she's supposed to be faded but the book did not mention she aged two dacades
I would add that Anne, while reserved and resigned to put others before herself is extremely capable. Keeping her cool in any emergency; while everyone else freaks out is like her super power. The most likable aspect of her character. She presents as a doormat for everyone but she is really the take charge leader. She takes charge of the families expenses when it hits a dire level, she takes charge of the care of her nephew when he is dangerously injured and like wise Louisa. She does most of this while she is herself in a long term depression.
In Persuasion, I always felt the word for Anne was Duty. Her sense of duty to her family and to others as a child of the prominent family in the neighborhood was what drove her. Her duty to marry well was what made her sway to the opinion of those of rank. The modern tendency To present this as a wishy-washy character is to do her a disservice and removes an entire layer from her personality. It also removes a layer of pain that she has when Wentworth sees this sense of feminine duty as an personal affront and not a conscious choice not to marry for her family’s detriment. She chose not to be selfish to her own detriment. It was not a blind listening to Lady Russell as even some of the book characters present.
Agree. What is lost as well from modern views of this era is that 'romance' was quite a 'modern' idea at this time. Ann's mother and Lady Russel would not have married for 'love'. They made 'good matches'. They would have hoped that given time, hard work and a little luck they could have formed fond, companionships with their husbands. Marriage was the only job a woman of her social class could have, the only income, the only form of individuality, the only way to have a say in her life, the only means of achieving fireedom, a meaningful future and her pension. A bad marriage (think of Lydia and Wickham in P&P) made for the wrong reasons was a social, financial and possibly family suicide. Wentworth was a young man, of an unknown family, no money to keep a wife and few prospects engaged in a career which would see him leave his wife for years at a time, and likely to kill him. Not marrying Wentworth - was not bad advice! It was the advice that a sensible, dutiful daughter of a gentleman should listen to. The true pathos and heart break of the story - is that for all the good advice, it turned out that it was the wrong advice.
It is strongly hinted that had she married Wentworth he might not have had the career in the navy he enjoyed. The heartbreak drove him to sea, even though the first ship he was offered was all but a suicide trap. Anne concludes that her decision might have been right or wrong depending on how things had turned out either way.
@@claireforrest2157 beauty of the story is that life and fate had them coming together at the end. After all the sorrow and separation, it is a wonderful, happy ending.
I am surprised that you thought the minor characters in the 1995 version were not memorable. I was amazed when I first saw it, how many characters stood out as distinct and (usually) lovable - only the two Musgrove sisters were interchangeable. I loved the Admiral and especially Mrs Croft, Mary was funny without being completely ridiculous and Mrs Smith and her nurse were unforgettable. Amanda Root was perfect as Anne, initially solemn and plain, but regaining her glow as she overcame her initial fear of re-meeting Captain Wentworth. Ciaran Hinds was subtle and dignified. What strikes me most about this adaptation is the quietness of the central characters, like the eye of a storm while the hurricane of the other characters rage around them. This is why I disliked the later version so much. Anne changes from a refined, inward, sensitive character to one who spends most of her time running around (which may not be a huge personal flaw) or crying (which is a distinct turn-off.) The scene where Wentworth confessed his love for Anne to another character undercuts the tension of the will he/won't he ending (we already know her thoughts) in the later version, and I was surprised on re-reading the novel to find that it was included. By omitting this scene in 1995, the suspense remains until the end, So, for me, it is 1995 all the way with the glorious cast of characters and especially the luminous Anne of Amanda Root.
Three performances I really, really liked were Sophie Thompson as Mary (really helped me to understand the character), Susan Fleetwood as Lady Russell, and Fiona Shaw as Mrs. Croft. I also really liked Corin Redgrave as Sir Walter.
@@elizabethneill3825 I agree completely. Even though Susan Fleetwood’s Lady Russell was not Austen’s Lady Russell I think she played a more contemporary, less snobbish version we can all believe meddled out of a motherly concern for the younger Anne. I also liked Fiona Shaw’s Mrs. Croft but what was up with the two supporting actress’ short hair?!? There weren’t any period wigs available? Sophie Thompson was exactly my vision of Mary and Ciara Hinds was just freakin’ smokin’.
I prefer Sally Hawkins in 2007, but Ciaran Hines knocks it out of the park - just a better actor than the other Wentworth (can't remember actor's name)
I was introduced to persuasion through the 2007 version and I do love it (the soundtrack when she's looking at old letters kills me) but 1995 is superior and I adore those versions ❤ ♥
I think you needed another two hours to decide. Lol. That Sally Hawkins version is horrible. Every second scene with her sniveling to the camera…. Couldn’t stand it. Her Wentworth is admittedly very handsome and well worth pining over, but I’ll take Amanda Root and Cirian Hinds any day. That thing he drops writing the letter in the 95 version is a canister of sand or something that’s used to help the ink dry faster when using a quill and ink.
1995 version is one of my favorite movies. Little known fact that the actress may who played Lady Russell, Susan Fleetwood, was Mick Fleetwood of Fleetwood Mac’s sister who sadly passed away in 1995. She was a brilliant actor. If you can find it, she was in a great mini series called Summer’s Lease in 1989.
Persuasion is my favourite austen novel for a myriad of reasons. But primarily I just think it's so romantic that these two people manage to find their second chance at happiness. My personal favourite version is the 1995 miniseries. I think the casting and acting is just **chefs kiss**. I enjoyed the 2007 version but the things you loved - like Anne running around Bath like a crazed person and the super slow kiss (with some hints of saliva 🙈) - those were the things I really disliked. It just didn't do it for me. Enjoyed this series though!
For me, Persuasion '95 is virtually perfect. I don't love the characterization of Elizabeth, and I'm not really sure why they changed Mr. Elliot's motivations, but other than that, I can't think about anything I don't love. 1971 is so bad it's funny, but 2007 makes me laugh AT it, not WITH it. The disgusting kiss, having Anne run around Bath and having Wentworth buying Kellynch are all just ridiculous ideas. '95, however, is beautiful, funny, heart-breaking and poignant. Persuasion has everything.
No lady, back then, would be running around like she's trying to put out a fire all by herself. And then, to tack on how to close-off the Ms. Smith sub plot was terrible. Just as bad as the 70s . . . ugh.
@@JamieRobles1 I think the 2007 version is way worse than the 70s version. In the 70s, it was perfectly normal to do these uber-faithful adaptations without any creativity at all, and this one fit the mold. But the 2007 one was just a steaming pile of poo IMO because a lot of the stuff they did seemed to come out of left field - no rhyme or reason at all. And, frankly, if you need to do a ton of mental gymnastics to make something make sense, it's a waste of time.
Wentworth dropped his writing powder. And yes, it’s a great scene. The ‘95 is definitely my fav. I thought Sophie Thompson & Phoebe Nichols were spot on as the sisters and absolutely fell in love with Admiral & Mrs. Croft. I liked that Anne was rather plain too, like she really had “lost her bloom.” Made her very believable and relatable. It’s also a very beautiful film. That opening scene of the water & the gorgeous score, then the final tag on the ship with the Italian art song during the credits. A truly lovely film!
@@ebriggs3498 I loved them as a couple, partly because, although neither is bad looking, neither is gorgeous. They’re like everyday people. SO many great moments also of telling looks & expressions that say so much without saying a word. Wentworth watching Benwick and Anne and that gem of a moment betw. him, W Elliot, and Anne on the inn steps in Bath. Brilliantly done film, I thought!
Phoebe Nichols was not spot on as Elizabeth. Elizabeth in the book was cold, unpleasant and selfish. However there was no indication in the book that she was slothful, vulgar and shriekish.
I've only seen the 1995 adaptation and fell in love with it. I love the entire movie and especially Root and Hinds. I've seen that one so many times and have no desire to even watch another version.
decidedly, I prefer Persuasions 1995, but in one thing you’re really right: the fact that we don’t know what Anne really thinks and that in addition, her look is so expressive makes Anne an...independent person. This is indeed altogether contradictory. Thus, I realize why I love Anne Elliot 1995 from the beginning: because I see a sovereign woman, who seems to be beyond the stupidity and insensitivity of her family and who knows why she reacted to her beloved donut in such a way and not in another. She may suffer, but she remains sovereign. In this sense Anne Elliot of 2007 is much more credible as an evolving character. Love your content and expression. 💖
I first and saw and fell in love with the 1995 version (because I'm old). I didn't like the 2007 version as much when I first saw it, but enjoyed it more on subsequent viewings. I enjoyed some of the things you called out (the change in cinematography as Anne gains confidence) and I do like the cast a lot. But Amanda Root (you talk about Sally Hawkins' eyes but Amanda Root's eyes are so perfectly communicative as well) and Ciaran Hinds are simply so perfect. I just feel the longing and the suppressed love and the pain so much, but it's so subtly beautiful. That said, I'm so thrilled to have TWO such perfect adaptations that I can watch over and over and enjoy them both so very much. When I was young, Emma was my favorite. Then Pride & Prejudice. But now that I'm older and can appreciate it more, it's Persuasion. It's just so perfect, and both of these adaptations are so amazingly well done.
So glad to hear I am not the only one to watch it over and over. The music, cadence and lighting of the 2007 version do me in every time, but the other versions do draw out different aspects of the charming novel...
Totally agree on the 3 supporting cast members you picked out, particularly Mary. Liked them about equally until the last 15 minutes but much prefer 1995 after that. The way they do the letter is brilliant and I like the idea of them sailing off to sea together as an ending more than going back to the country estate.
Also the ship scene for me symbolised her becoming a partner to his life and also expanding her own horizons, literally and figuratively. A bit like Jane Eyre. Also sorry but HATE the slow kiss, drove me bonkers haha!
@@FullofLit I felt like she was so stuck before and no one expected anything from her (like Mary being shocked that she had things to do that kept her away from Mary). And her family cared so much about appearances that they never explored or did anything, they just played cards. But she finds something exciting and gets to go have adventures and not be delicate. It felt right and made me happy. :)
I love the 2007 version until the running. It is so out of the time period, and took me so far out of the story. I was literally shouting at the TV, my husband thought there was something actually wrong. I haven't watched it again because of how negative a taste that left in my mouth.
I agree! I very much preferred and gravitated to the 2007 version. The facial expressions, the anguish, her regret of choice. Wonderfully portrayed by Sally Hawkins. Rupert James was the most eye candy version of Captain Wentworth. I myself fell in ❤️ with him. His pain and anger was done to perfection. I found my self routing for them both. Although the running scene was drawn out, my heart was racing with Anne’s through the streets of Bath. Anne loved and cherished her childhood home of Kellyrich Hall, more so than her self absorbed father and sister. So I found it befitting that Wentworth bought it for her, however inaccurate the ending was. 2007 hails as my favorite and I will not waiver.
The item that Captain Wentworth drops in the 1995 film is the sand container. They would use this to sprinkle sand or some other dry substance to blot up the excess ink after writing, so they could then fold up and seal the letter without the ink smearing onto other parts of the letter.
I definitely prefer the 1995 version. The actors have such a believable chemistry. You can almost feel the agony and the joy at the end. Hands down, my favorite
In the 1995 version, Captain Wentworth drops a can of pounce, which was "used both to dry ink and to sprinkle on a rough writing surface to make it smooth enough for writing." 🙂
I'm in the minority but I really like the 70s adaptation. To me that Anne is great. Like she stepped out directly from the book. And yes, the production value was not spectacular but that's what it was in that time. BTW I disagree that a successfull adaptation HAS TO change things and "spice things up". IMO that's not true. It usually has to come up with creative ways to leave out some scenes without changing the characters, the mood and the story. E.g. 1995 Sense and Sensibility did great. If you change too much it might as well be an original work. Take 1999 Mansfield Park. What's the point if the main character of the movie is somebody fundamentaly different to her book counterpart? 2000s Persuasion has an atrocious ending - the last 15 minutes are excruciating to watch. Anne running around Bath like a lunatic without a bonnet and gloves? No. The kiss with all the snot running from Anne's nose is just terrible. Also Ruper Penry Jones while very pretty doesn't look and/or act like a hardened ship commander. I just don't believe him to be able to command a HMS frigate... at all. With the exception of the newest Emma the 2000s Austen adaptations are IMO inferior to the 90s ones.
Just a bit of random observations to add: A sad fact about the 1995 version is that the studio that released the vhs thought the two leads were not attractive enough to draw audiences and so the cover art replaced them with very attractive models. I know because that’s actually how I first saw this film and was surprised when Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds appeared as Anne and Wentworth as they were not who were pictured. I believe what he dropped in the letter scene was a shaker-type ink blotter. The 1995 version is my favorite, and one of the most memorable scenes is actually a tiny one wherein Anne, when meeting Wentworth again for the first time at Charles and Mary’s house, seems to be relatively calm, but the camera pans in on her hands, and the audience sees her desperately gripping the back of a chair she stands in front of as she tries to control her emotions. You are correct in your observation that Wentworth would not be able to buy Kellynch Hall. It was entailed to the male heirs and was done so as a way to protect and keep the property from being sold by wastrel heirs like Anne’s father who, no doubt, would have sold pieces of it or the entire estate to pay off his debts if he could.
He could be renting it out though because her father needs the money. I took it as he was renting, they probably could for a long time even after Elton inherited because all he wanted was the baronacy and he could take the title but not live at the house. I am sure he would be in London to show off. Just my thoughts.
OMG, I can't believe that they were changed by models...this is crazy. They are so perfect as Anne and Wentworth. I think the movie would've been huge success if it was launched in the cinemas at the time.
Replaced by models?! That's...that's...what the ACTUAL duck. Root and Hines were both perfectly good-looking. Also, how insulting to the actors, to the spirit of the story. WHO thought that would be a good idea?! HOW do you even bring that up? "Hey, guys, listen, screw this moral crap, the public just want hot, hot, HOTTER! Yeah, have the dude kiss her neck, now give 'Anne' a lil' bit of cleavage! Cor! That's better!" ...*shudder* Guess the marketing dept. was full of the kind of people our heroine disliked -- all about misleading appearances for financial gain over any kind of finer feeling.
I wonder whether Cousin Elliott's ill behavior--running off with Elizabeth's gf Mrs Clay, for example--could not have entered into the situation regarding his inheritance. Strings could be pulled. Dr Octavia Cox assures us in some circumstances a female inheritance could be arranged.
A young woman of any class running on the street back in those days was unheard of I think. So 2007 Anne is definitely throwing caution to the wind and is overcome by the urgency of the moment. But for me Ciaran Hinds is the true Wentworth down to the weather beaten face. His eyes actually shine every time he looks at Anne, even when he’s pissed at her. And also, it’s probably because of the movies and series I’ve watched, that is I have no background in history and historic appearance, but period pieces always lose me when the hair doesn’t look authentic to the era. It’s really bad when you can tell the decade it was filmed in (as in the ‘70 show). But also when it just looks too simple, as in the 2007 one. I get it, Anne was not vain and didn’t bother with being fashionable, but she was very duty bound and a baronet’s daughter would’ve taken better care of her appearance if only because she’d get a lot of nagging from her family otherwise. I feel the 1995 captured the period better in that regard.
I'm surprised to say that I kinda disagree. Personally, I really thought I was going to like the 2007 adaptation better because the quality of the production was clearly superior and the silly characters were not as caricaturised but I was very surprised to find the 1995 better in my opinion. Especially in terms of acting and pacing. I think the 2007 had more content but perhaps it's because of this that it felt like it rushed through some very important key plot points which often lacked a proper set-up, like Louisa's fall, or the scenes about Benwick's grief over Penelope, or Wentworth's compromise with Louisa, I didn't feel the severity of all that in the 2007 as I did in the 1995 one (except the compromise, that scene didn't even exist in 1995 and I don't think it was needed). I feel like all of those relied on dictating through the dialogue what was going on instead of making the audience feel the severity of it. Anne also felt a whole lot more passive in the 2007 film, which is to say a lot for Austen's arguably most passive heroine, although I have to give props to the actress: when she cried, I too cried with her. The lead actors in 1995 also simply had much better chemistry. The 2007 had the whole discussion between Wentworth and his friend over how he's not over Anne but the 1995 adaptation did not need it at all! The heartbreak and longing could be literally seen with their looks alone!!! I know this might bet a lot of people up in arms, but the way that actor delivered was Alan Rickman level. There, I said it.
I totally agree! Lead actors in 2007 version (I just watched it for the 1st time) are both good, but don't even seem to be in the scenes with each other. It was like they were playing to the camera & not each other at all. And the supporting characters are fleshed out in 1995 version, with their own stories, & are like carriers for the only 2 characters in the 2007 movie. The 1995 version is THE version for me!
Can I say something about the 1995 costume choices tho! The 2007 plays it with colours and shades all over the place but the 1995 was very much on point! The Musgrove sisters and Mary's red capes over flowy, white cotton dresses making a sharp contrast to Anne's bland, dark moss green and grey velvet pieces is just... chefs kiss.
The 2007 version did make me feel all the feelings, but the 1995 one is the first I saw, so it will always have a special place in my heart. Okay, I don't know if this is still the case, but when my family bought the VHS of the 1995 version, we could NOT get over the photograph they chose for the cover? It was two actors who were not in the movie at all sharing a very, very sexy neck kiss with just a ton of cleavage on show??? And all we could think is, like, maybe it's meant to represent young Anne and Wentworth? But mainly it was probably to make people more likely to pick up the tape and buy it. But it was just so jarringly out of sync with the actual movie's content, it always gave me a giggle. Anyone else remember that?
I have that vhs as well. I also have one with the correct actors on it. And a dvd. And own it on Google . Persuasion is my favourite book and the 1995 movie is my favourite movie, not just my favourite Austen adaptation.
The 2007 version has my heart. It really evokes the longing, yearning for a do-over, and regret that both parties hold. I also found it to be far more intimate. Having Anne vocalize her thoughts through a journal made it seem like you knew her, like you were her closest confidant rooting for her.
"Passive" is not how I would describe Anne. Depressed, trapped, defeated, yes. The realism is part of what makes the 1995 version so powerful.
I would not say she is easily swayed, either. She was “pursuaded” to pass on a proposal, but in matters of principle was downright mulish.
I have a feeling that a better adaptation would be one where Anne is presented as someone coping and overcoming narcissistic abuse from her father and oldest sister
The Persuasion (2007) adaptation has me in a chokehold. That movie is so fucking moving I can't-
Jane would not have used the "F" word!
@@minimaker5600I agree 😂
My favorite version is the 1995. I haven’t read the book, but I love the 1995 film.
To be honest I related a lot to Anne. I used to be extremely shy and quiet.
I like everything about the 1995 version. It just makes so much sense. Anne is rational but also very insecure.
She’s made mistakes and she’s ashamed and basically realizes that she doesn’t have any friends either-no one who really cares about her after “becoming a spinster” essentially. However instead of lashing out she takes the cruel comments and treatment because she knows ultimately that it was her fault for rejecting the man she loved just because her family told her to (basically choosing money and listening to people she knew didn’t really love her as they should) and she quietly starts to make amends, she starts doing the right thing.
That’s why she cannot be a Lizzy Bennet or Emma-it’s because her story is actually basically one of repentance, she’s literally the character who chose money and rank over true love. Whereas Elizabeth and Emma did not make that mistake.
Anne has always been insecure of herself and looks for safety, but that actually led to her misfortune. Whereas Elisabeth and Emma are not looking for safety but are naturally confident and aren’t really that concerned about losing their wealth/their safety so much. Emma’s just wealthy with no worries of that. Elisabeth is already not wealthy and she does have a little bit of fear of being even worse off, but she’s naturally strong willed.
Anne is the character who was born into wealth and rank, and she’s naturally shy and insecure. She fell in love with a man who had nothing and unfortunately because she’s afraid and naturally always been insecure (probably compounded by her family being the type to compare others and nitpick everything) she runs away back to “safety.”
But, then only much later realizes that basically pursuing what appears to be safe actually isn’t-that basically life, that whatever is meaningful in life, does involve some risk. And that you have to be brave sometimes.
well, elizabeth bennet’s love interest happens to be very rich, so she doesn’t actually face a dilemma like pre-novel anne elliott. no bravery required there
Persuasion is getting a new adaptation with Henry Golding and Dakota Johnson I hope Daria does a review when the movie comes out.
when is that?
Ive seen some pics of it, and it looks like they are gonna ruin it by making it look like Bridgerton. 😭😭😭🤢🤢🤮🤮
I would prefer a version in mini series form as movies rush/skips important to the plot.
Dakota is portraying Anne and Cosmo Jarvis is portraying Captain Wentworth. Henry Golding is portraying the dirt-bag Mr. Elliot.
Saw the trailer. It looks godawful. Luckily I dumped Netflix a while back so I won’t be tempted to watch.
I'm a 1995 fan just because I feel it so perfectly encapsulates the spirit of the book as well as those "blink and you miss them" moments that Austen describes, like glances between people and tiny details, like Mr. Elliot admiring Anne's beauty in Lyme and Captain Wentworth noticing his admiration of her. I don't like how Elizabeth is such a grump, but Sir Walter is properly ridiculous and Mary is excellent. But you've given me a lot of food for thought about the Sally Hawkins one! The marathon and weird kiss were very off-putting for me, but I will watch it again with a fresh perspective!
I will admit I've not seen your #1 pick, but I'll still suggest you should have gone with your first instinct. The Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root adaptation is PERFECT, the best Jane Austen adaptation I've seen. Hinds looks and acts like a sea captain, and Amanda looks like a slightly faded near-beauty. She is prettier and more suited to the role than your choice, and the other Captain Wentworth is too young and looks more like a stuck-up baron than anyone connected with the sea.
I couldn't agree with you more. They make a perfect interpretation of what the characters are like. I was literally watching Anne and Wentworth.
I mean 2007 has Rupert Penry Jones….so naturally it has an extra few points! 😍😉
I love the 2007 version! The excitement and feels. So great!
Bad choice - 1995 Persuasion was so much better. 2007 Persuasion was millennial. And that running around Bath at the end was seriously awful.
Meanwhile 2022 Persuasion is a car crash.
I love love love the 2007 version -- glad it made your top spot!
I adore the 1995 version for the aesthetic and Captain Wentworth, as well as the subtle storytelling and cosy, unpolished feel. However, I think Sally Hawkin's performance in the 2007 version is absolutely heartbreaking and gives me a different perspective of Anne's character. Amanda Root's Anne is more at peace with her grief, whereas Sally's Anne is still in a state of mourning. Both Annes are fascinating.
Yeah, I think Sally Hawkins is terrific and there is much to recommend the 2007 version and I liked some of the other performances as well. Like a few people here though, I think I prefer the 1995 version, Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds are perfect in the roles.
love your insights! my fave version is 1995, but i liked 2007 as well! i think the quietness and subtleness of 1995 suited the story better haha. i tried watching the series, i couldnt finish it ahhh
I had to watch this again after watching the Netflix film. Thank you for reminding me why I love the 2007 version s much!
I just want to say, I agree! Persuasion 2007 is my favorite!!!
persuasion is my favorite work that I've read by austen so I was super excited when this popped up in my subscription box💜💜
What really, REALLY, bothers me about the 2007 version is that Sally Hawkins' Anne is ... a mouth breather! Drove me insane! Kept wanting to close her mouth the whole time. That to me was a deal breaker. I found she practically had the same frightened-deer expression throughout. The movie was very good in general, but no match for the 1995 version. The Wood/Hinds combo for me was perfection itself. Also, in my opinion all the characters were well portrayed in that movie, and the cinematography was gorgeous as was the soundtrack. A pure delight. Thank you so much for this series. I too a-do-re Austen! You're great! I found you by chance and I'm subscribing to your channel.
Absolutely agree. Sally Hawkins is what I imagined Anne to be.
2007 is my favorite. Not that I don't adore 1995, I do! But I appreciate exactly the same moments you mentioned:
-Wentworth giving a very faint smile at the opportunity to help Anne after she falls from the log
-Anne running so shamefully through the streets after a man!
-heartbroken gaze that Sally conveys (breaks my heart too)
-the convo about Wentworth getting himself tied up with Louisa
-Wentworth hoisting Anne onto the carriage. By the way, I also appreciate the carriage scene in 1995. If I didn't know any better, I would have concluded that Wentworth is just seeking an excuse to grope Anne! 😉😄
-my personal favorite: Wentworth's shattered look melting away as Anne denies the rumours and his expression clears away like a gloomy sky giving way to the sun. Someone in the comments said Rupert isn't as good of an actor as Ciaran, and that's simply false. Demonstratively false.
I'm a 1995 ride or die fan ( ;- ), but I do like the way you explain about the 2007 "It just makes me feel the same way as when I read the book." I think that's the most important thing to do in an adaptation, for sure.
I literally love how passionate you are about this. Makes me want to rewatch the 2007 one. 😭. Also this is so random but what lip product are you wearing??? It’s so pretty
I know you find the earlier versions boring, but from another perspective, if you had been around in the 70/'s, 80's you would have been so grateful for these adaptations. They gave avid Jane Austen fans, especially in the UK, the chance to see our most beloved books acted out. So cut the older generation some slack. Most of these actors were stage/theatre actors and if you watch any BBC series from that era you will find they are all done in this fashion. Look up some old Charles Dickens versions or indeed Jane Eyre with Timothy Dalton.
I definitely see myself as part Anne Elliot and Elinor Dashwood. Much like my favorite Shakespeare play, Much Ado About Nothing, Persuasion doesn't get many adaptations and is seriously underrated!
Anne and Elinor are so similar and they are my favorite Austen heroines, because I relate to them.
Sophie Thompson as Mary in 1995 was just fine, but then she went on to be Miss Bates so brilliantly in Emma (1996) that I feel like she eclipsed her own performance.
For the 2007 version and the purchase of Kellynch, I always felt like it was hearkening back to the beginning where the conversations between Anne and Lady Russell reveal that the Bath Plan was the only way to avoid selling Kellynch (which tells us that Kellynch being sold was possible) and that Anne is the only person in that family even trying to keep an eye on the budget. It's perhaps a *little* bit rushed, but I do think that it makes sense - in a romance novel sense of the word "sense" - that without Anne her father would soon be forced to sell Kellynch, and Wentworth could then buy it.
I love listening to your opinions. So good! I too love Jane Austen and totally agree that it’s difficult to choose between these two versions but I believe you were correct because of the supporting characters. For some reason I have never been able to get into Mansfield Park. I need to try again. Don’t know why. Love all the others.
Just loved this commentary. So totally agree with you ! My favourite Jane Austen .. !!!
I think Ann Elliot allowed herself to be "persuaded" at the age of 19 to reject Frederick Wentworth. But I think she so regretted the decision that she grew a backbone. She turned down Charles Musgrove. She assisted Lady Russell in persuading her father and sister to "retrench." She displayed the coolest and most decisive mind when Louisa bopped her head on a rock. She single-handedly pulled Mr. Benwick out of his depression. She told her father she was visiting Mrs. Smith on the wrong side of town instead of sucking up to Lady Dalrymple, and she drop-kicked William Elliot into oblivion. And for being such a goody-two-shoes, she got her man Frederick Wentworth in the end. She was most decisive in accepting his proposal! I think her level-headedness while all around her were acting silly or were enthralled by peerage is what endears her to me. I've only seen the 2007 version once. Movies that have "running scenes" in them really annoy me. Having Ann run all over Bath trying to track down Frederick was pretty stupid. "Sickly" Ann running all over Bath? Any woman running all over Bath back in those days? Nope, sorry.
Much as I adore the fact that you are having a slightly controversial opinion on the adaptations, I have to say that, while neither the 90s version nor the 2007 version impressed me that much, after watching the 2007 version I realized how much better OVERALL the 90s version is, because even though the 2007 version definitely had better cinematography, I didn't like how they portrayed Mrs. Smith (and I was hoping they would go more into her backstory than the 90s version does), but when it didn't, and I found the actress who portrayed her somewhat forgettable, I realized how much more I loved Mrs. Smith in the 90s version. I also didn't like how they didn't have Anne say her "women loving longest" line in front of Wentworth, I think they removed that from their relationship's story for no reason. I ALSO didn't like how they made Mrs. Smith more abled, and had Anne running through the streets of Bath like it was modern-day and not a time when she would have most certainly have been labeled as unhinged by anyone who saw her doing that. But yeah, I think my biggest issue was the portrayal of Mrs. Smith. Overall, I think Persuasion just deserves a better adaptation than the ones we've gotten so far and the one that's being made right now.
I liked 1995 version but I loved 2007 version. Because I love Sally Hawkins so much! Also, Rupert Penry-Jones was good too.
I love both! I’m grateful the 1995 is more accurate with some of the sweetest moments like the end letter scene. So good!! Perfect chemistry and satisfying trueness to the characters. They looked the part completely to me. I saw the 2007 first and was all for going in deep with their intense longing for each other. I didn’t understand the plot fully but boy did I understand all those looks, Anne’s private confidences of pain with us, and Wentworths emotional process that he shows with those expressive eyes. Without knowing the plot, I could follow what he was thinking/feeling from his face alone and it makes sense that in this adaptation Anne is portrayed as so much less able to communicate smoothly because it’s highlighting the emotional overwhelm more than wanting to be accurate. If I didn’t have both versions I’d be missing out on seeing it from two swoony perspectives! Here’s hoping they do another amazing version, maybe a mini series to do it justice and we can all pretend the 2022 never happened,lol.
Oh my, I despised all the running at the end. I agree the cast is brilliant, but the running! 1995 is my favorite. I just found your channel. Brilliant!
You have to add now the new Persuasion (2022) version!
Hi, my interpretation of the last scene is that he pays her father's debts and they can go back to live there... thank you for your video...very nicely watch!
Well, on my way to find 2007 Persuasion now. I adore the 95 version, but I also LOVE Sally Hawkins!
I haven't watched the 2007 version yet, since I love the 1995 version so much, but now that 2022 has happened and everything you said about 2007 I know I would love, I'll definitely watch it now and love 1995 and 2007 wholeheartedly.
Read the book and watched all four versions (including the recent 2022 Gen-Z enabled mash-up). When the 2007 version aired, it suffered criticism for its break of the 4th wall, character/plot omissions, and ‘snazzy’ camera shots. It is also my favourite adaptation for all the reasons you gave. Indeed, you presented all my thoughts on the three earlier adaptations . . . and we’ve never met. Clever girl; brilliant insight and great presentation. Looking forward to your Persuasion 2022 review. If it’s up already I’ll eventually find it.
YES! THANK YOU! I always get hanged because I prefer 2007 over 1995 and this is the first time someone actually agrees with me.
I always felt like ... okay, no, backing up.
When I first read Persuasion I was 27 yo like Anne is in the book and I idenfied with her SO much. And I always felt that the 95 actors were too old for the part and that kinda killed for me bc wtf I did NOT look like that at 27.
And I also love Sally Hawkins! I actully agree with every single thing you mentioned so no point in listing them all. I just agree with it all.
And you know what, the "shaky" camera in the 2007 version that gets so much hate- for me it helps the viewer to identify with Anne, it's like we're her with her, running through Bath.
(and that final kiss?? yeah, he loves her and she loves him but HE'S STILL SALTY HE MISSED 8YRS lol)
I know this may sound strange, but people aged more quickly in the past. The life of a naval officer at sea would have destroyed the good looks of the 2007 Wentworth. During this period, being an unmarried woman in your late twenties made you an "old maid," a spinster. Today we have all sorts of beauty products to make us look "young" well into what was once considered middle age. I think the 1995 Anne represented a Regency spinster quite well. (Keep in mind, Jane Austrn considered herself an old maid well before 30, and dressed so.)
Interestingly, the 1995 adaptation shows Anne looking progressively "younger" and better dressed after she is reunited with Wentworth. Almost as if she has recovered her youthful "bloom"!
Totally agree with your #1 pick
I disliked the Sally Hawkins version especially the running around. She looked mostly gormless and slack-mouthed. And that kiss was painfully ridiculous. I have not yet seen the new one but the previews are not promising as they completely change Anne’s character to a snarky 21st century teenager who drinks. So my preference is the Root Hinds version.
The 2007 movie makes me dizzy. The one thing i like .. is when Wentworth had to visit his brother because he believed himself promised.
To this day, I'm still unable to choose a favourite between 1995 and 2007 🙈
I have to reread Persuasion ASAP to get this mess of a film out of my mind. The theme song and some of the photography was good. I agree that the actress who played the younger sister had an original spin on her role and added entertaining dimension to her character. The Lady Russell actress also was wonderful even though the rewrite of her part was just so wrong. Dakota Johnson performed as the role was written and directed, however, as you said, this movie is a mess and it was painful to watch. Can't imagine sitting through it again. I plan to go to your backlog and binge to catch up with your views. Great job.
So I'd never seen the version with Sally Hawkins, but I really like Sally Hawkins so I decided to watch it. I must say, she's it. She's the only thing I like about this movie. I can't say I liked anything else. And dear lord, who decided on so much shaky cam. You said you really liked her mad dash around the city, but it really became improbable, the whole reason Wallis is a thing is because Mrs Smith is infirm. So meeting her out walking on the street annoyed me. Also Mrs Smith had enough reason to dislike Mr Elliott without claiming that Mrs Clay was perfectly willing to become a mistress, which is frankly an outrageous accusation for the time.
This was fun and interesting, and you are so charming and sharp! You must have killed in your English lit classes. I wish you had included longer clips from the movies so we could better appreciate your points, however. Can't wait to see your comparison of Pride and Prejudice versions.
I have only watched the 2007 version once because the 1995 version was so good and the final running all over Bath scene just ruined it for me it made no sense that everyone was out at the same time just waiting for Anne to run by I felt like they had run out of time and wanted to cram everything in at once. The costumes also were pretty lacklustre so I never bothered buying it.
11:39 That was the sand shaker to help dry or seal fresh ink to a sheet of paper. Fount of trivia here. :)
Personally, I love Anne Elliott so much for many of the same reasons I love Sansa Stark--you cannot imagine them doing anything akin to James Bond, so in a truly fundamental way they are more like me. The courage and strength to endure and wait is not valued, but is often one of the most crucial things needed in life.
I love both the 1995 and the 2007 equally. I will watch either one and be happy.
Agreed, Sally Hawkins is the best, Dakota Johnson will probably try to forget her adaptation and she should. It was terrible!
The best adaptation is the one with Ciaran Hinds...everyone in it is good as is the entire production.
I haven't seen the other versions, but the 2007 was good up until that horribly awkward kiss at the end. I don't agree that it was cute! Even if it were, cute is not what we want at that moment. That moment merits a passionate kiss that doesn't hold back on either side. I cringe just thinking about how they chose to perform it in the film.
Have you seen Fingersmith? If you love Sally Hawkins, you will LOVE it. It would be fun to see you react to it!
I love 2007 Persuasion!
Oh my god I totally agree with you Sally Hawkins is the best Ann she actually made me cry and I have watched it so many times and will watch it again and again 👍👍👍👍
He doesn't buy Kellynch technically, he bails her father out of debt in order that they can live there. I guess when Sir Walter dies, Mr Elliot would probably inherit. Also I agree with you apart from the Anne/Harville convo and letter scene, that was way better in the earlier version because truer to the books and, as you said, super cute when Wentworth realises
Wentworth dropped the ink shaker.
Well, you've just convinced me to give Persuasion a try
We don’t talk about the new one… I managed 30 minutes before turning off and wanting to burn my eyes out.
2007 is my favorite
Wentworth drops the container of sand that they used to speed up the ink drying process on paper. Ink and quill tended to put too much ink on a page.
I really enjoy this "battle of the adaptations" series, will you be continuing with it?
NOTHING TOPS the 1971 version. Sir Walter is a riot and Anne is so pretty. And Mary Musgrove is the perfect hypochondriac!
1995, all the way. 2007 does the best job of hinting at Wentworth's possible jealousy on the walk to Winthrop, but 95 does everything else better.
I do love the 2007 persuasion film but I think the 1995 film is better, because it’s more accurate to the book. I think Amanda and Ciaran’s portrayals of Anne and Wentworth were phenomenal but I also think they were both far too old to play the characters. I hold the 2007 film very close in my heart, because it was my introduction to persuasion and it made me go read the book, but the 1995 version is the best adaptation of persuasion.
You didn't mention the elephant in the room about the 1971 miniseries: Anne's atrocious hairstyle and costumes!
It was a 70s TV production. They definitely used well-worn sets and costumes from the BBC scenery and costume department and the hairstyles were done by a staff makeup artist who probably also did the news people's hair and makeup. It was all about the budget.
There are things about the 2007 version that I really like, but Amanda Root is so *physically* Anne Elliott and her portrayal is so on point - and the overheard conversation and letter scenes so powerful - that 1995 will always be my favorite.
I do prefer the 1995 version to the 2007 one, but that is largely due to that repressed longing the actors have together. Just the intensity of their eye contact. So. Good. But the 2007 one is fun.
That longing makes their kiss that much sweeter. In 1995 the very tall Wentworth bent down to kiss the much shorter Anne. I believe it symbolizes her complete vindication in his eyes.
Ok. The circus showing up is rather weird and incongruous. I really don't get it. Even after 26yrs.
I loved the rest of the world moving on round them while they only exist for each other. They are still while the circus parade brings excitement.
I remember, as a very small child,a circus parade walking from the train station through my town. It was so exciting I was determined to go and see the show. Great advertising.
Sally Hawkins really was wonderful as in the 2007, but I like the 1995 better, too. The ending is much better, and as hot as Rupert Penry Jones was, Ciaran Hinds was wonderful. More weathered and believable.
@@amysbees6686 I think that they wanted to show that even amid chaos their Love is steadfast and calm. Also, they only have eyes for each other and nothing can now persuade them to deviate from this love bubble
@@amysbees6686 I think it was meant to show how the noise and busyness of the world around them can't touch their love and the world they will build together - but yeah, it was kind of jarring. Not as bad by a long shot as the marathon of bath and the hungry bird kiss, but you can be a lot better than those and still not be great.😉
I love the 1995 version. It's so subtle! Ciardan Hines is amazing!
I second that! Bring on Sense and Sensibility and Pride and Prejudice!
He was good in a Thomas hardy adaptation the mayor of casterbridge
Amanda Root was the best Anne 😭✨ and Ciaran the best Capt. Wentworth
I love them too. Ciaran is the only Captain Wentworth for me. Wentworth was my husbans second name actually. But I also like the Anne in 2007 as well.
Ciarán Hines is a brilliant actor and the homeliest hero I’ve ever seen. His is my favorite Persuasion.
Love Ciaran as Wentworth!! Definitely can picture him on thr deck of a ship of the line during an action, roaring out orders to his crew!
In total agreement.
@@TheSuzberry He may not have conventional good looks but he was as sexy in that movie as any hero has *ever* been.
Ciaran Hinds looked like a man who had spent many years at sea, had been in battles, and was used to commanding men. Rupert Penry-Jones looked like a man who wouldn't know a bowsprit from a yardarm. To me, such things matter. The 1995 version, to me, is quite beautiful. It takes the novel and translates it into a great film. I became a bit annoyed watching the 2007, especially when Wentworth bought Kellynch. Why? Even if it had been possible, given that entail issue, surely the best thing for Anne was to get away from there? It allowed her to grow as a woman, with a husband who loved her, one who needed nothing from Kellynch, except Anne.
he was quite old though. He looked like he could be Louisa's or Henrietta's father. It wasn't stated that Wentworth bought kellynch, he could have rented it. It is only your assumption that moving away from Kellynch would have been what's best for Anne, this is not a fact. Perhaps staying at Kellynch, which was attractive enough (to Anne) when she was considering Mr. Elliot as a prospect, shows that she would flourish there. It was where she felt safe, and some people flourish where they feel comfortable and safe.
@@Bibirallie In the novel Wentworth is roughly in his early thirties so about 12 years older than Louisa. In Austen's novels there are a few marriages with significant age differences: Emma and George Knightley, Marianne and Colonel Brandon, Colonel and Mrs Forster. The adaptations tend to shy away from these age gaps. During the Napoleonic wars Wentworth would have been an heroic, romantic figure to the Musgrove girls, especially with his association with their wastrel brother. And, IMHO Hinds captured that. He looked like a brave dignified and attractive commander of men. Penry Jones didn't. And that should matter. And re living at Kellynch? I don't think Anne was ever really happy there. It was a place she had to live in but not really a home for her. It was in Bath and Lyme that she came alive. It was Lady Russell who urged Anne to marry her cousin, but that was a price too high for Kellynch. Anne no longer needed Kellynch when she had Wentworth which Austen sort of makes clear in the novel. Persuasion is probably my favourite Austen novel. The Root/Hinds adaptation I think captured its autumnal beauty. My favourite Austen adaptation by far.
The 1995 film is my favourite. Simply because 'the boy' in the 2007 film might be able to sulk decoratively, but was never ever out on sea for a decade as a captain. He looks far too young and unweathered. That's why I'm extremely biased towards Ciaran Hinds. When I saw the 2007 captain, I went into full Lady Russel-Mode and told Screen-Anne: 'THAT one? Dear, drop him. That's no seasoned captain, that's an impostor. There is nothing about that boy that deserves your attention. - If it must be a captain, pick that Harvey, that boy is not worth a single quick step in Bath."
It's funny I have the completely opposite reaction from you between the 2007 and 1995. I preferred the 1995 version. I felt Sally Hawkins was just a little too nervous and angsty. I found the supporting cast from the 1995 memorable. Particularly Sophie Thompson as Mary and Sam West as Mr Elliot.
That kiss in the 2007 version was just too goofy for words
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It’s like she’s begging to be kissed and he was reluctant to 😂
The realism of the 1995 version, including the sadness, loss, less than glamorous good looks-- is part of what made it perfect.
2007’s Anne had _ZERO_ glamorous good looks either. I don’t mind that Wentworth was drop-dead gorgeous, it’s my favorite part and I’m not a bit ashamed to admit it. 🤤🤤🤤
@@mena94x3 I felt there was no chemistry in the 2007 version.
@@starwood213 - maybe not steamy chemistry, but there was at least some.
I thought Anne was the same timeless drop-dead magnetic depth of classic beauty described by Jane. Sue me.
@@mena94x3haha. I like good looking guys.
1995 is wonderful.Capitan Wentworth and Anne are perfect.
One part I absolutely adore with the 2007 adaption, is when Captain Wentworth introduces Anne to Harville, and Harville knows exactly who she is and what she has been to his good friend. We see that Wentworth has told Harville about Anne at some previous time, which shows us a lot, both about Harville and Wentworth's friendship, and about how deeply hurt Wentworth has been by his relationship with Anne. (Wait a minute, you're Miss ANNE Elliot?! Dude!) But I have to vote for the 1995 as my favorite - it just gets Anne and Wentworth so perfectly.
Yes! I love that moment too! It says so much in so few words.
I thought I liked the 2007 one more, but recently went back to watch the 1995 one, and boy! it gave me ALL the feels!! It was pretty amazing! but I really like both the adaptations tho...
Love the 2007 version better. Anne Eliot 2005 version looks 40 and it's hard to imagine her as 27. I know she's supposed to be faded but the book did not mention she aged two dacades
I would add that Anne, while reserved and resigned to put others before herself is extremely capable. Keeping her cool in any emergency; while everyone else freaks out is like her super power. The most likable aspect of her character. She presents as a doormat for everyone but she is really the take charge leader. She takes charge of the families expenses when it hits a dire level, she takes charge of the care of her nephew when he is dangerously injured and like wise Louisa. She does most of this while she is herself in a long term depression.
great comment
In Persuasion, I always felt the word for Anne was Duty. Her sense of duty to her family and to others as a child of the prominent family in the neighborhood was what drove her. Her duty to marry well was what made her sway to the opinion of those of rank. The modern tendency To present this as a wishy-washy character is to do her a disservice and removes an entire layer from her personality. It also removes a layer of pain that she has when Wentworth sees this sense of feminine duty as an personal affront and not a conscious choice not to marry for her family’s detriment. She chose not to be selfish to her own detriment. It was not a blind listening to Lady Russell as even some of the book characters present.
Agree. What is lost as well from modern views of this era is that 'romance' was quite a 'modern' idea at this time. Ann's mother and Lady Russel would not have married for 'love'. They made 'good matches'. They would have hoped that given time, hard work and a little luck they could have formed fond, companionships with their husbands. Marriage was the only job a woman of her social class could have, the only income, the only form of individuality, the only way to have a say in her life, the only means of achieving fireedom, a meaningful future and her pension. A bad marriage (think of Lydia and Wickham in P&P) made for the wrong reasons was a social, financial and possibly family suicide. Wentworth was a young man, of an unknown family, no money to keep a wife and few prospects engaged in a career which would see him leave his wife for years at a time, and likely to kill him. Not marrying Wentworth - was not bad advice! It was the advice that a sensible, dutiful daughter of a gentleman should listen to. The true pathos and heart break of the story - is that for all the good advice, it turned out that it was the wrong advice.
Exactly. Totally agree.
Exactly
It is strongly hinted that had she married Wentworth he might not have had the career in the navy he enjoyed. The heartbreak drove him to sea, even though the first ship he was offered was all but a suicide trap. Anne concludes that her decision might have been right or wrong depending on how things had turned out either way.
@@claireforrest2157 beauty of the story is that life and fate had them coming together at the end. After all the sorrow and separation, it is a wonderful, happy ending.
I am surprised that you thought the minor characters in the 1995 version were not memorable. I was amazed when I first saw it, how many characters stood out as distinct and (usually) lovable - only the two Musgrove sisters were interchangeable. I loved the Admiral and especially Mrs Croft, Mary was funny without being completely ridiculous and Mrs Smith and her nurse were unforgettable.
Amanda Root was perfect as Anne, initially solemn and plain, but regaining her glow as she overcame her initial fear of re-meeting Captain Wentworth. Ciaran Hinds was subtle and dignified.
What strikes me most about this adaptation is the quietness of the central characters, like the eye of a storm while the hurricane of the other characters rage around them. This is why I disliked the later version so much. Anne changes from a refined, inward, sensitive character to one who spends most of her time running around (which may not be a huge personal flaw) or crying (which is a distinct turn-off.) The scene where Wentworth confessed his love for Anne to another character undercuts the tension of the will he/won't he ending (we already know her thoughts) in the later version, and I was surprised on re-reading the novel to find that it was included. By omitting this scene in 1995, the suspense remains until the end,
So, for me, it is 1995 all the way with the glorious cast of characters and especially the luminous Anne of Amanda Root.
Three performances I really, really liked were Sophie Thompson as Mary (really helped me to understand the character), Susan Fleetwood as Lady Russell, and Fiona Shaw as Mrs. Croft. I also really liked Corin Redgrave as Sir Walter.
@@elizabethneill3825 I agree completely. Even though Susan Fleetwood’s Lady Russell was not Austen’s Lady Russell I think she played a more contemporary, less snobbish version we can all believe meddled out of a motherly concern for the younger Anne. I also liked Fiona Shaw’s Mrs. Croft but what was up with the two supporting actress’ short hair?!? There weren’t any period wigs available?
Sophie Thompson was exactly my vision of Mary and Ciara Hinds was just freakin’ smokin’.
This was superbly written- I agree with every word- bravo! 👏👏
Thank you!
I thought the woman who played Mary was superb.
I prefer Sally Hawkins in 2007, but Ciaran Hines knocks it out of the park - just a better actor than the other Wentworth (can't remember actor's name)
I was introduced to persuasion through the 2007 version and I do love it (the soundtrack when she's looking at old letters kills me) but 1995 is superior and I adore those versions ❤ ♥
I think you needed another two hours to decide. Lol. That Sally Hawkins version is horrible. Every second scene with her sniveling to the camera…. Couldn’t stand it. Her Wentworth is admittedly very handsome and well worth pining over, but I’ll take Amanda Root and Cirian Hinds any day.
That thing he drops writing the letter in the 95 version is a canister of sand or something that’s used to help the ink dry faster when using a quill and ink.
I find him handsome, but his portrayal was cold and wooden. Cirian Hinds absolutely nailed it.
1995 version is one of my favorite movies. Little known fact that the actress may who played Lady Russell, Susan Fleetwood, was Mick Fleetwood of Fleetwood Mac’s sister who sadly passed away in 1995. She was a brilliant actor. If you can find it, she was in a great mini series called Summer’s Lease in 1989.
I saw her as Rosalind in As You Like It. She was brilliant in it.
Thank you!
Persuasion is my favourite austen novel for a myriad of reasons. But primarily I just think it's so romantic that these two people manage to find their second chance at happiness. My personal favourite version is the 1995 miniseries. I think the casting and acting is just **chefs kiss**. I enjoyed the 2007 version but the things you loved - like Anne running around Bath like a crazed person and the super slow kiss (with some hints of saliva 🙈) - those were the things I really disliked. It just didn't do it for me.
Enjoyed this series though!
@@FullofLit Same actually. I hardly ever read them in general, but Persuasion is just so good!
I agree
For me, Persuasion '95 is virtually perfect. I don't love the characterization of Elizabeth, and I'm not really sure why they changed Mr. Elliot's motivations, but other than that, I can't think about anything I don't love. 1971 is so bad it's funny, but 2007 makes me laugh AT it, not WITH it. The disgusting kiss, having Anne run around Bath and having Wentworth buying Kellynch are all just ridiculous ideas. '95, however, is beautiful, funny, heart-breaking and poignant. Persuasion has everything.
No lady, back then, would be running around like she's trying to put out a fire all by herself. And then, to tack on how to close-off the Ms. Smith sub plot was terrible. Just as bad as the 70s . . . ugh.
@@JamieRobles1 I think the 2007 version is way worse than the 70s version. In the 70s, it was perfectly normal to do these uber-faithful adaptations without any creativity at all, and this one fit the mold. But the 2007 one was just a steaming pile of poo IMO because a lot of the stuff they did seemed to come out of left field - no rhyme or reason at all. And, frankly, if you need to do a ton of mental gymnastics to make something make sense, it's a waste of time.
Wentworth dropped his writing powder. And yes, it’s a great scene. The ‘95 is definitely my fav. I thought Sophie Thompson & Phoebe Nichols were spot on as the sisters and absolutely fell in love with Admiral & Mrs. Croft. I liked that Anne was rather plain too, like she really had “lost her bloom.” Made her very believable and relatable. It’s also a very beautiful film. That opening scene of the water & the gorgeous score, then the final tag on the ship with the Italian art song during the credits. A truly lovely film!
I loved how she started off plain, but her looks did improve throughout the movie. It was done so subtly.
@@ebriggs3498 I loved them as a couple, partly because, although neither is bad looking, neither is gorgeous. They’re like everyday people. SO many great moments also of telling looks & expressions that say so much without saying a word. Wentworth watching Benwick and Anne and that gem of a moment betw. him, W Elliot, and Anne on the inn steps in Bath. Brilliantly done film, I thought!
Phoebe Nichols was not spot on as Elizabeth. Elizabeth in the book was cold, unpleasant and selfish. However there was no indication in the book that she was slothful, vulgar and shriekish.
@@starwood213 In my opinion. I have been known to be occasionally wrong. 😉
Yes the music is such an important part of it!! And you can’t buy the soundtrack- I’ve tried! 😢
I've only seen the 1995 adaptation and fell in love with it. I love the entire movie and especially Root and Hinds. I've seen that one so many times and have no desire to even watch another version.
I understand what you mean! No need to try to improve on perfection
decidedly, I prefer Persuasions 1995, but in one thing you’re really right: the fact that we don’t know what Anne really thinks and that in addition, her look is so expressive makes Anne an...independent person. This is indeed altogether contradictory. Thus, I realize why I love Anne Elliot 1995 from the beginning: because I see a sovereign woman, who seems to be beyond the stupidity and insensitivity of her family and who knows why she reacted to her beloved donut in such a way and not in another. She may suffer, but she remains sovereign. In this sense Anne Elliot of 2007 is much more credible as an evolving character.
Love your content and expression. 💖
I first and saw and fell in love with the 1995 version (because I'm old). I didn't like the 2007 version as much when I first saw it, but enjoyed it more on subsequent viewings. I enjoyed some of the things you called out (the change in cinematography as Anne gains confidence) and I do like the cast a lot. But Amanda Root (you talk about Sally Hawkins' eyes but Amanda Root's eyes are so perfectly communicative as well) and Ciaran Hinds are simply so perfect. I just feel the longing and the suppressed love and the pain so much, but it's so subtly beautiful.
That said, I'm so thrilled to have TWO such perfect adaptations that I can watch over and over and enjoy them both so very much. When I was young, Emma was my favorite. Then Pride & Prejudice. But now that I'm older and can appreciate it more, it's Persuasion. It's just so perfect, and both of these adaptations are so amazingly well done.
BTW, are you ever going to do Pride & Prejudice and Sense & Sensibility? I'm sure we're all waiting!
So glad to hear I am not the only one to watch it over and over. The music, cadence and lighting of the 2007 version do me in every time, but the other versions do draw out different aspects of the charming novel...
Totally agree on the 3 supporting cast members you picked out, particularly Mary. Liked them about equally until the last 15 minutes but much prefer 1995 after that. The way they do the letter is brilliant and I like the idea of them sailing off to sea together as an ending more than going back to the country estate.
Also the ship scene for me symbolised her becoming a partner to his life and also expanding her own horizons, literally and figuratively. A bit like Jane Eyre. Also sorry but HATE the slow kiss, drove me bonkers haha!
@@FullofLit I felt like she was so stuck before and no one expected anything from her (like Mary being shocked that she had things to do that kept her away from Mary). And her family cared so much about appearances that they never explored or did anything, they just played cards. But she finds something exciting and gets to go have adventures and not be delicate. It felt right and made me happy. :)
I love the 2007 version until the running. It is so out of the time period, and took me so far out of the story. I was literally shouting at the TV, my husband thought there was something actually wrong. I haven't watched it again because of how negative a taste that left in my mouth.
Totally agree!
Yes, but also her friend Mrs Smith being out and about? I thought she was so unwell that she relied on others.
I agree! I very much preferred and gravitated to the 2007 version. The facial expressions, the anguish, her regret of choice. Wonderfully portrayed by Sally Hawkins. Rupert James was the most eye candy version of Captain Wentworth. I myself fell in ❤️ with him. His pain and anger was done to perfection. I found my self routing for them both. Although the running scene was drawn out, my heart was racing with Anne’s through the streets of Bath. Anne loved and cherished her childhood home of Kellyrich Hall, more so than her self absorbed father and sister. So I found it befitting that Wentworth bought it for her, however inaccurate the ending was. 2007 hails as my favorite and I will not waiver.
The item that Captain Wentworth drops in the 1995 film is the sand container. They would use this to sprinkle sand or some other dry substance to blot up the excess ink after writing, so they could then fold up and seal the letter without the ink smearing onto other parts of the letter.
I definitely prefer the 1995 version. The actors have such a believable chemistry. You can almost feel the agony and the joy at the end. Hands down, my favorite
In the 1995 version, Captain Wentworth drops a can of pounce, which was "used both to dry ink and to sprinkle on a rough writing surface to make it smooth enough for writing." 🙂
I'm in the minority but I really like the 70s adaptation. To me that Anne is great. Like she stepped out directly from the book. And yes, the production value was not spectacular but that's what it was in that time. BTW I disagree that a successfull adaptation HAS TO change things and "spice things up". IMO that's not true. It usually has to come up with creative ways to leave out some scenes without changing the characters, the mood and the story. E.g. 1995 Sense and Sensibility did great. If you change too much it might as well be an original work. Take 1999 Mansfield Park. What's the point if the main character of the movie is somebody fundamentaly different to her book counterpart?
2000s Persuasion has an atrocious ending - the last 15 minutes are excruciating to watch. Anne running around Bath like a lunatic without a bonnet and gloves? No. The kiss with all the snot running from Anne's nose is just terrible. Also Ruper Penry Jones while very pretty doesn't look and/or act like a hardened ship commander. I just don't believe him to be able to command a HMS frigate... at all. With the exception of the newest Emma the 2000s Austen adaptations are IMO inferior to the 90s ones.
Just a bit of random observations to add:
A sad fact about the 1995 version is that the studio that released the vhs thought the two leads were not attractive enough to draw audiences and so the cover art replaced them with very attractive models. I know because that’s actually how I first saw this film and was surprised when Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds appeared as Anne and Wentworth as they were not who were pictured.
I believe what he dropped in the letter scene was a shaker-type ink blotter.
The 1995 version is my favorite, and one of the most memorable scenes is actually a tiny one wherein Anne, when meeting Wentworth again for the first time at Charles and Mary’s house, seems to be relatively calm, but the camera pans in on her hands, and the audience sees her desperately gripping the back of a chair she stands in front of as she tries to control her emotions.
You are correct in your observation that Wentworth would not be able to buy Kellynch Hall. It was entailed to the male heirs and was done so as a way to protect and keep the property from being sold by wastrel heirs like Anne’s father who, no doubt, would have sold pieces of it or the entire estate to pay off his debts if he could.
He could be renting it out though because her father needs the money. I took it as he was renting, they probably could for a long time even after Elton inherited because all he wanted was the baronacy and he could take the title but not live at the house. I am sure he would be in London to show off. Just my thoughts.
OMG, I can't believe that they were changed by models...this is crazy. They are so perfect as Anne and Wentworth. I think the movie would've been huge success if it was launched in the cinemas at the time.
I just googled to find the VHS cover - atrocious but amusing.
Replaced by models?!
That's...that's...what the ACTUAL duck. Root and Hines were both perfectly good-looking. Also, how insulting to the actors, to the spirit of the story. WHO thought that would be a good idea?! HOW do you even bring that up? "Hey, guys, listen, screw this moral crap, the public just want hot, hot, HOTTER! Yeah, have the dude kiss her neck, now give 'Anne' a lil' bit of cleavage! Cor! That's better!"
...*shudder*
Guess the marketing dept. was full of the kind of people our heroine disliked -- all about misleading appearances for financial gain over any kind of finer feeling.
I wonder whether Cousin Elliott's ill behavior--running off with Elizabeth's gf Mrs Clay, for example--could not have entered into the situation regarding his inheritance. Strings could be pulled. Dr Octavia Cox assures us in some circumstances a female inheritance could be arranged.
A young woman of any class running on the street back in those days was unheard of I think. So 2007 Anne is definitely throwing caution to the wind and is overcome by the urgency of the moment.
But for me Ciaran Hinds is the true Wentworth down to the weather beaten face. His eyes actually shine every time he looks at Anne, even when he’s pissed at her.
And also, it’s probably because of the movies and series I’ve watched, that is I have no background in history and historic appearance, but period pieces always lose me when the hair doesn’t look authentic to the era. It’s really bad when you can tell the decade it was filmed in (as in the ‘70 show). But also when it just looks too simple, as in the 2007 one. I get it, Anne was not vain and didn’t bother with being fashionable, but she was very duty bound and a baronet’s daughter would’ve taken better care of her appearance if only because she’d get a lot of nagging from her family otherwise. I feel the 1995 captured the period better in that regard.
I'm surprised to say that I kinda disagree. Personally, I really thought I was going to like the 2007 adaptation better because the quality of the production was clearly superior and the silly characters were not as caricaturised but I was very surprised to find the 1995 better in my opinion. Especially in terms of acting and pacing. I think the 2007 had more content but perhaps it's because of this that it felt like it rushed through some very important key plot points which often lacked a proper set-up, like Louisa's fall, or the scenes about Benwick's grief over Penelope, or Wentworth's compromise with Louisa, I didn't feel the severity of all that in the 2007 as I did in the 1995 one (except the compromise, that scene didn't even exist in 1995 and I don't think it was needed). I feel like all of those relied on dictating through the dialogue what was going on instead of making the audience feel the severity of it. Anne also felt a whole lot more passive in the 2007 film, which is to say a lot for Austen's arguably most passive heroine, although I have to give props to the actress: when she cried, I too cried with her.
The lead actors in 1995 also simply had much better chemistry. The 2007 had the whole discussion between Wentworth and his friend over how he's not over Anne but the 1995 adaptation did not need it at all! The heartbreak and longing could be literally seen with their looks alone!!! I know this might bet a lot of people up in arms, but the way that actor delivered was Alan Rickman level. There, I said it.
I totally agree! Lead actors in 2007 version (I just watched it for the 1st time) are both good, but don't even seem to be in the scenes with each other. It was like they were playing to the camera & not each other at all.
And the supporting characters are fleshed out in 1995 version, with their own stories, & are like carriers for the only 2 characters in the 2007 movie. The 1995 version is THE version for me!
Can I say something about the 1995 costume choices tho! The 2007 plays it with colours and shades all over the place but the 1995 was very much on point! The Musgrove sisters and Mary's red capes over flowy, white cotton dresses making a sharp contrast to Anne's bland, dark moss green and grey velvet pieces is just... chefs kiss.
The 2007 version did make me feel all the feelings, but the 1995 one is the first I saw, so it will always have a special place in my heart. Okay, I don't know if this is still the case, but when my family bought the VHS of the 1995 version, we could NOT get over the photograph they chose for the cover? It was two actors who were not in the movie at all sharing a very, very sexy neck kiss with just a ton of cleavage on show??? And all we could think is, like, maybe it's meant to represent young Anne and Wentworth? But mainly it was probably to make people more likely to pick up the tape and buy it. But it was just so jarringly out of sync with the actual movie's content, it always gave me a giggle. Anyone else remember that?
I have that vhs as well. I also have one with the correct actors on it. And a dvd. And own it on Google . Persuasion is my favourite book and the 1995 movie is my favourite movie, not just my favourite Austen adaptation.
Your enthusiasm for Austen adaptations is so lovely :)
The 2007 version has my heart. It really evokes the longing, yearning for a do-over, and regret that both parties hold. I also found it to be far more intimate. Having Anne vocalize her thoughts through a journal made it seem like you knew her, like you were her closest confidant rooting for her.
The best adaptation is the one with Ciaran Hinds...everyone in it is good as is the entire production.
Hard to believe that the man who played Rochester was also perfect as Wentworth! I did not recognize him at first.