You sounded frustrated at times but as far as explaining everything and the tools needed I give you a big thumbs up. A lot of people don’t factor in saving money and buying your own tools where you break even in the end but they now will own these valuable tools and that was an excellent closing point. Very good job and thank you. 👍
Thank you, glad you found the video helpful. I’ve installed 5 of these so far and it’s been worth it to me to buy the tools. I’ve probably saved over $10,000 in installation costs for about 10 days of work.
Great project. Steadily making things comfortable and enjoyable. The day you finally finish those exterior shingles and put covers on those interior outlets and switches I’m pretty sure I’ll weep tears of joy. Yes, I have a problem.
@@50Acres I’m busting your chops. The work on the bathroom, adding heating/cooling, building the pond…all rewarding projects that will make things enjoyable for a lifetime. Very impressive.
I've watched several DIY mini-split install videos but yours just popped up & like your format! (Thanks for the 'subtle' music vs how some folks try to make music videos!) I always try to learn something from each video I watch & for me - that flaring tool is the bomb! I have one of the other style, too and like you I have never had luck with it. Owned it for 40+ years and maybe got 3 good flares out of it. With a tool like that I won't have to get a 'quick-connect' style mini-split and find a way to hide the extra coiled lineset. Thanks again! New sub!
Best thing we ever did was put a split unit in our 3 season cottage in CT. It is easy to run and energy efficient. A real work horse. It will be a game changer in hot weather. Great job!
I built a couple walk in coolers for my business. The refrigeration unit I bought and the lines came pre-charged, so I didn't have to pull a vacuum, it really was just plug and play. The lines came in several optional lengths so it wasn't an issue to get something to fit.
Oh, one more thought. I don't bury linesets in a wall if I can avoid it. I've had to repair refrigerant leaks at the evaporator (indoor unit) flares. Leaving an access would be great. I would also put nail plates on the studs to protect the lineset from nails too. See ya. Dan.
Pro tip. I agree with your friend to pressure test with nitrogen. Never pressure test with air. I know you didn't/won't but I'm just putting it out there for others that might consider it. Also I agree with you, 500 microns or less. When evacuating a system with a leak, you will pull in "non condensables" meaning air and moisture. Moisture will react with the compressor oil and create an acid that literally eats the system from the inside out. The other DIY friendly system , not naming names, has pre charged lines that you can not shorten, so no evacuation needed. It's acceptable, just doesn't look professional. See ya, Dan.
me being an AC tech myself, your friend should of also tell you that Nitrogen also drys the system out as well as check for leaks, you never pull a vacuum without checking for leaks. That being said, mini splits are fairly easy to set up. Just an FYI 300 microns is industry standard for 410A So it is manufacturers recommendation. no one does it though.
Exactly....."no one does it". I self installed one, then had a 'pro' come out to vac it down and start up. He didn't "do it" either.....just ran a pump for about 30 min, used a set of standard gauges to judge "good enough" and turned the gas loose. Lasted about a year before the gas was gone. Then I watched enough videos to see how it SHOULD have been done, bought a pump, refrigeration gauges, a tank of nitrogen/regulator, a micron gauge and a tank of 410a. Fixed the first one, and installed the next one in my house + 2 more 3 head units for a neighbor building a new house. None of them have needed any 'service' since installing several years ago.
Ti sto guardando dopo una dura mattina a spostare travi da solo. Mi veniva voglia di essere li ad aiutarti. Come capisco quando per certi lavori bisogna essere in due. Sei forte e molto determinato questo fa di te un vero eroe. 💪💪👍 ciao
Grazie Mauro, si sono con te a volte hai bisogno di una mano in più. Ho dei simpatici amici che mi aiutano di tanto in tanto ma non possono essere qui tutti i giorni!
Nice install. I have put in about 7 of these units and they are just phenomenal. Quiet and efficient compared to other types of ac. You made the right choice with the Pioneer, it's inexpensive (for a mini split) and is very efficient and reliable. I have a few units that are 7 years old going strong(senville units but are the exact same as Pioneer)
Thank you again for sharing your journey with all of us. Hoping this year brings you and your family health, wealth and success in the days ahead. Thanks for making the day a little bit better. Glad the mini split is working for you. Peace!
Another great addition to the cabin. I’ve thought about a mini split for a couple of my projects but never pulled the trigger. You make everything look too easy lol. FYI…. You can rent little bottles of nitrogen at the welding supply stores. Nitrogen pressure test would allow you to leak check your connections with soap like you did on your propane piping, but it also helps with non-condensables in the system, which helps the vacuum pump be more efficient quicker. Keep up the good work. So awesome that pioneer was willing to work with you. I hope lots of people will be encouraged to buy one of their units and you’ll see a return as well. I’m blown away that you can run so much stuff out there from your solar and inverters. I hope your loan officer is as impressed as the rest of us. Cheers!
Hey Justin, thank you man. There were some challenges with this install, mostly hunting down leaks. I always try to show the good with the bad. Thats really cool about the nitrogen, I wish I had taken the time to get some, and the right gauges for doing it. Pioneer was good to work with. I also wanted to make a video that let people know that they have options other than DIY.
autoparts store around me have free tool rentals and they have vac pumps has the ports needed for auto and home. just borrow it for a day and didnt have to buy for a one time use. great install
I also installed a pioneer mini split in my cabin. I did the cassette unit and built ductwork to blow the air up through the floors. I’ve been very satisfied with it and it’s hardly made a dent in my electric bill. Also I did have to replace a fan motor, but they sent me a new one no questions asked. Good install video, I think you’ll be very happy with it.
Now that's a big step in the direction of comfort. Awesome. I am continually blown away by your attention to detail and your ability to make me go out and purchase more tools.lol. awesome work as always and I always look forward to the next video.
My hvac jobs are mostly Residential/Commercial but we do a lot of Minisplits. I would advise putting pipe dope on the flare nut mail fitting. Better seal.
You will be pleased with that mini split... I have a 21 BTU gree for years that i installed... Very cheap to run it... Cleaning it is a have to each year... simple too.
You’re gonna love your mini split! I installed one for the garage/workshop and it’s wonderful any time I want to spend time out there, summer or winter.
With a mini split in it is now time to double or even triple your solar panels and add a whole bank of batteries. I would also consider for the winter months adding a small wind generator somewhere nearby as that works when its dark and when snow hits in the winter the wind is usually blowing.
@@50Acres I did sede you doubled the battery bank but you are now going to draw significantly more power. I have found in my off grid cabin that what I thought would be sufficient has always turned out to fall short either in power generation or power stored......Just trying to help. Love the videos and you have me trying new things as well with my cabin!
Great video my friend. Sounds like a very durable unit that will last many years. May have to look at one down the road. Have a great weekend. John & Sheri
Thanks for showing the CORRECT way to do an install. Most HVAC "professionals" would simply slap a pump on it, vac it down for 20-30 minutes and as long as it holds in the green on their Yellow Jacket gauge, call it 'good enough', turn the gas loose.....no nitrogen purge, no micron gauge test....AS most all manufacturers recommend. That sets them up for a 'service call' in a year or so when the freon finally leaks out to the point the unit isn't doing much anymore.
I have the same unit and that valve on mine was leaking too. Made 2 service calls and finally the 2nd guy found it leaking. He had to order a new valve and that fixed the problem. Long story short, the cap did not hold my Freon in for longer than a few months.
Great job, Mike. Everything's coming together nicely in the cabin is looking outstanding. Thanks for taking us along on your journey. Don't most carpenters sleep till 6 AM. : ))
Thanks Gary, it's a bit tricky but not too hard once you study up on it. I think usually this goes smoother, but stuff always seems to go wrong for my installs of this sort.
I like the new flaring tool. One thing I like about this type of unit as opposed to a window unit is the noise ... these are so quiet compared to a window unit. Happy New Year.
I’ve installed hundreds of mini splits mostly Mitsubishi but I have installed one pioneer and it was a 2 ton 208/230 heat pump. I would pull that brass cap off and tighten the Schrader valve. It’s pretty common that they get stuck and or aren’t tightened completely from the factory. I see it pretty often.
@@50Acres you do realize this is a critically charged unit. All Pros know you trying to adjust charge on a MS is not recommended by manufacture. Your charge must be accurately weighed in. A tip: Use the correct core removal tool. Appion makes the 5/16 tool. Remove the core before vacuum, then AFTER you open the service valve, you can then replace the core and no leaks. Now you will have lost charge and do not know the volume in the system of a critical charge unit.
@@PaulHVAC1 Thank you for the tips. I’ve now installed two Pioneers two Fujitsus and a Mitsubishi. In the manuals every one of them lists an acceptable line set length range for the pre charge. My hope is that since I cut about 8 feet off a 25ft set, the small bit of refrigerant I lost still leaves me in the acceptable range. What do you think? I don’t see why that compression cap wouldn’t hold in the refrigerant.
@@50Acres I'm sure it will be acceptable but just giving you tips because if you are going to video it for others, just try and get it as close to correct as you can. In the instruction they will have oz/ft of refrigerant based on the line sizes. So lets say the system is good for 15 ft and you are running say, 37ft. Then you will weigh in the extra charge for the 22 ft, Same is true on the other end. Lets say you have a leak and over the winter you lose charge. You cannot charge these units by SC or SH. You will have to find the leak, remove the charge, repair it and then evacuate and weigh in the correct amount. Hope this helps
It's been several weeks since this install, I'm happy to report that it is working perfectly. If it wasn't working, regular viewers know I'd be the first to admit it. I always show my mistakes and never sugar coat any of my videos. I received some great advice from a viewer, Edward J. that I can get a 5/16th core remover and tighten or replace the core without needing to recover the refrigerant. If I ever need to mess with it, that's what I'll do. If I need to charge it, I have some good friends who work in commercial refrigeration who can help me out.
I just thought you were showing nature harmless technology, so I watched this video. Now I know it’s not worth paying attention to. I didn’t want to be rude or hurt somehow, I just expressed professional opinion.
It's been a while since I've been into the service manual, but I've seen a feature where you can close the liquid valve and pump the refrigerant into the outdoor unit. Close the gas valve and you can service the core. Not sure if this applies to your brand though.
@@joewiddup9753 The question when it will be done, I hope it won't be too late. And by the way there was some more wrong things done, but I don't see a reason to discuss about. I don't like this chanel already and I won't be back. Good luck there.
@@r.z.4324 Are you daft? One of the first interior projects he did was a lead acid battery bank and low voltage stuff. His truck has probably at least 100 modules (chips) in it, he edits on that table with a boost converter. WTF do you think the metals for these things comes from? Where do you think the material and labor used to construct whatever device you use to be an eco weirdo online came from? You are a base hypocrite.
Nice work Mike! I went a little different direction. Hotspot Energy offers a native 48vdc system and in 2015 I hooked it up to our 3.34kW system w/16-305ah batteries. It quietly hums in the background providing heat and air 24/7/365 in Central Texas where we do have 100+ degree days for most of the Summer. If had to do it gain I believe I would do it exactly the same.
@@50Acres Ours is installed in our guest house which was designed to be a stand alone 1000 sq ft not reliant on the grid for anything. It does have grid electric but a flip of the transfer switch takes it off. wood stove for backup heat and cooking, propane on demand hot water and the well pump is solar powered but can also be powered by the guest house if needed.
I'm not techy at all, so I never knew how mini-splits worked. I just assumed whatcha see on the inside is all of it, lol. Thanks to you, now I get it! Duh. Nice that you'll be able to cool off-grid when you need it. Thank you for another great video!
Great job Mike, I like that unit. The ones we use have a minimum line set length. I like the fact that does not. It’s weird the valve didn’t hold.great addition to the cabin
Thanks Jason, I think I damaged it when I first tried to thread on the valve core remover tool. I think this one can take down to a 15 ft line set without removing refrigerant.
... leaking valve ... that is the place where most of the R-410a will leak as soon as it begins to heat and cool in that place. As for the sponsor's gift, which has R-410a is harmful to nature, ironically that it still uses freon R410a, because you won't find it in europe for a year now, R-32 is now in use.
Wow! great video. My new house will be electric and not hooked up to the grid for power. I've been looking at these for each room as a way to cool the room off I am using... to save power. Ohio can get swelteringly hot inside. I recall going outside before because even a fan did not help inside. My aunt was in assisted living and they had one of these in each room. I like the .... from unboxing... to final ending.... We got to see it all and it gives me a more comfortable feeling about using these. Renting a home is damn good money. I was getting a 16% return on my dollar but they just would not pay and I had to tell them to get out. Yet, I felt bad doing so. But, the bottom line is I was not their doormat. Tenants will wreck a place once they know you are going to evict them. My tenants did damage and I sent them a bill. 4 months later they did not pay. So I told them I was going to file in small claims court. They said "don't do that! we are trying to get a loan to buy our house and that will hurt our credit rating". Two days later, they paid me cash for the damages. So if someone damages your property , use small claims court to make sure you damage their credit rating! Thanks for the upload. (We got our first snow here, about an inch. Global warming is real)
They are impressive little machines. You can buy multi head units that can serve more than one room with the same outdoor unit. Sorry to hear about your tenant issues. I got a bit burnt out myself, have downsized a good deal. Glad you were able to recover your damages.
I'll keep you all posted. I can run this around 8 or 09 hours with no sun, assuming no modulation. Should be longer in practice as it ramps up and down as it hits the target temp.
Hey Mike, wish I had this video when I put mine in this summer. Love how it cools in the summer..😎 Awesome to see your subs up over 66k..👏 I started watching way back trying to learn more about off-grid solar. Learned alot, so thanks for that. Keep up the good work buddy, trying to stay warm in Cambridge, MN..🥶
Wow. I forgot today was "A Cabin and 50 Acres with Mike". What a nice way to start a very snowy day here in Kentucky. Thanks Mike for the great information. I have wanted to know about Mini Split units but just not taken the time to investigate. Now I know. Happy New Year my Friend. May you have Health, Happiness and Peace! Cheers
Great red enjoyed watching it like how you demonstrated how much everything costs that at the end and the tools you had to use and buy one of the better videos I've ever seen on a split install thank you great channel by the way your pond vids are awesome💯💯💯💯💯😀😀😀🤑🤑🤑
Mike you always suprise me because you are always doing something new in your CABIN now your amazing wife going to ENJOY going to the cabin because it's going to be warm hope you BOTH had a WONDERFUL new year's may GOD KEEP on BLESSING you BOTH always stay safe outthere please tell your wife hello for me
I used to build fuel stations and we would test for leaks with nitrogen, pressure tests dont allow things to enter into the system and they are easier to find leks with a song and some soap suds. we also used helium forcing it through lines and then drilling a bunch of holed in the parking lot according to the as-built plans and using a sniffer we would detect the leak, dig, and repair. nitrogen is purchased at welding supply shops
Good morning Mike. You said you filmed this episode earlier but I thought I'd comment anyway. I believe the condenser (outdoor part) need to be minimum of 10' from the propane tanks. The condenser is considered an ignition source. Now I realize propane is heavier than air and will settle to the ground but still. 10' minimum here in CT. As for other comments of 14 ga. wire on a 15a breaker is correct. 12 ga wire for a 20a. Good to see your progress, I look forward for each installment. See ya next time, Dan.
Oh no kidding, thanks for the heads up on that. The breaker it is on is a 15 amp breaker, the 20 amp breaker I flipped at the end of the video is the breaker for the whole box.
When not using the Split, remember to tie some steel mesh to that out vent pipe.. come next summer.. there will be bugs n wasps trying to make a nest in that space. lastly a good AC fitter always takes a photo of the Barcode and the Model sheet on the outer A/C unit.. for future reference plus it also ensure you have the right remote to use if your unit remote is outta order.
Wow, it's really getting civilized in there! Lots of work though. Great testimonial for the unit - surviving all that abuse in the rental shows that it should really hold up to the minimal use you guys will give it.
I'm looking at getting a mini split for my 2 car garage workshop. The previous owner used a window unit for AC and a propane radiant heater. I'm also looking at the multi-zone system for my house.
Great job and video. However if you’re going to plaster that wall behind the split indoor unit I’d have left the hose joints behind the unit (outside the wall). You will be thankful if you ever have to replace the unit.
Nice install man. One of the better mini split videos. I admit I had a standard efficiency Pioneer and it worked awesome at my last house. At this house, I bought a high efficiency model. It didn't seem to cool as well. It ended up being too small so I bought a big LG mini split. The LG works so well that I admit I'll never go back to a Pioneer. The LG moves more air, keeps the room at a more constant temp, and just works better. But, I do still like the Pioneers for a budget system. I used a Pioneer line set for my LG because of the ease of install. The LG also can ramp all the way down to 3,000btu just barely running to maintain or 30k btu peak to cool quickly. You mentioned Mr. Cool. They wouldn't reveal max/min BTU specs to me so i ruled them out!
Thank you, I have a Fujitsu in my shop and it is awesome, 33 seer, makes heat down to minus 14. I can't justify that out here though, we'll probably use it 10 days a year total.
Dude Mike! This was a GREAT video! I've always wanted to know more about mini splits, since I'd like to have them for my house and the kids club house, I think your video explained them the best that I've EVER seen! Your install was mint too! I learned a lot! Hope everything is good on your end! I'll make sure when I buy, I'll use your link, might have to think about this for the summer time for sure!
Hey thanks man, yea a multi head mini split system would be awesome for your house. So many options now for any type of install, ceiling mount, ducted, monitor style, wall mount like mine. Let me know if you ever get serious about putting one in, I’ll help you out.
@@50Acres Dude yeah, I'll for sure talk to you about it when I get closer! And thank you so much for the help offer! I've been meaning to do more work on the club house, but it's been hard to find some supplies for it... I hope this Spring I'll be able to get the insulation I need. Still trying to figure out what to do about the inside...
5 CFM is a good choice for a vacuum. It speeds up the process by quite a lot. also, if you happen to get a 1/2-inch hose for the vacuum it would work even faster to get it down to 500 microns. In the field, tech usually do triple evacuation get it down to 500 microns on the third vacuum. Nice house by the way and good luck.
I like those systems. I wondered about condensation. All of the descriptions I've seen online never mentioned it. Humidity bothers me much more than heat and you know as well as me how humid it gets around these parts. Good job.
You have to seal up the insulation on that line set better. My previous company had a hell of a time chasing down leaks because that white insulation desolves and is corrosive. They stopped using that type.
Just a FYI that little duct lees split needs all the refrigerant it may only hold about 1-2 lbs All you would’ve had to do is tap your Schrader because they get stuck and would’ve stopped the leak in valve
I cut off about 8 feet of line so it might work out. If I need to charge it I have some friends who work in the business who can help me out. If I could have though fast enough I should have done that to the valve.
To do the hose removal most effectively, hold pressure on the connection with your hand while loosening the nut - press the hose into the fitting even as you're loosening the nut. Even a high pressure inside the line you should be able to hold the seal together just by hand. Then when the nut is completely loose, let up on the hose so it comes completely off all at once. You'll get just a little *pfft* of gas puffing out (if your valve holds like it's supposed to).
Came here to say the same thing. That is a definite code violation in some parts, especially if it is a load bearing wall, which it looks to be! It can be a code violation if you drill small holes improperly for wire runs let alone that monstrosity of a hole :). If you start noticing any sag…that would be my prime suspect. I only just learned of the issues this can cause when a friend had some sag issues caused by too many holes in a horizontal beam.
@@riley4545 It is a load bearing wall, there isn't any risk of compression, the only risk is the outward force of the roof causing them to hinge over, of the 11 2x6 studs on that wall 3 of them have those holes. It will probably be fine, but Ill keep an eye on it. We don't have any building codes or inspectors so it's a matter of looking out for myself!
Watching you do stuff is always like this weird feeling of undercover boss, like i feel you are one of the most proffesional DIYers around the fact that your like an hour away from me blows my mind. showed my grandma your videos and she has suspicions of what county you are in because of the beautiful scenery. good to see you again in the new year my friend hope you had a decent holiday
It's great to see the unit installed and working well. What happens to the efficiency as the temp drops? Honestly, your videos are so insightful and it's really refreshing that you admit/acknowledge that mistakes get made, things are frustrating and sometimes, the plan doesn't work out. But, you keep going. THAT is a great lesson for anyone. Thanks again for the content and the time you put into sharing. Really, truly appreciated.
Hey Jim, thanks so much man. The efficiency decreases as the outside temp drops (or rises in the case of cooling). With heating it will eventually get to a point where it will stop working. Some units will actually work down to -15 degrees and at some point switch over to resistant heat. Some have built in pan heaters for the outdoor units. Lots of cool choices and features. Glad you appreciate the videos.
Note when you put the bracket on the out side wall you only put two screws on the you should have put two more screws each side of the lower bracket .there is only to screws holding the entire condensing unit more support and stronger. 1/13/2022
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You sounded frustrated at times but as far as explaining everything and the tools needed I give you a big thumbs up. A lot of people don’t factor in saving money and buying your own tools where you break even in the end but they now will own these valuable tools and that was an excellent closing point. Very good job and thank you. 👍
Thank you, glad you found the video helpful. I’ve installed 5 of these so far and it’s been worth it to me to buy the tools. I’ve probably saved over $10,000 in installation costs for about 10 days of work.
He who dies with the most tools wins! I’m impressed with your work on this installation. The unit should serve you well.
agreed!
Good morning and Happy New Year to you.
Same to you!
The price is right and I like the ability for the heat once the wood stove cools off over night. Perfect.
Right on
Running a A/C off solar. How COOL can you get! Thanks for the video!
I know huh, so cool!
Your comment should be pinned as the best comment. Haha. 👍
Great project. Steadily making things comfortable and enjoyable. The day you finally finish those exterior shingles and put covers on those interior outlets and switches I’m pretty sure I’ll weep tears of joy. Yes, I have a problem.
Thanks Mike, I want to get them both done. Hopefully soon.
@@50Acres I’m busting your chops. The work on the bathroom, adding heating/cooling, building the pond…all rewarding projects that will make things enjoyable for a lifetime. Very impressive.
@@50Acres Mike - the shingle videos are always my favorite!!!!
@@christophercummings5820 Gotta love that 🎩 🪄 hammer!
My new favorite comment during a diy, “we need a better strategy.”
hahaha, I find myself in that situation quite a bit.
Great video...I still wonder why you do not have over 100k subs? Crying shame man....you deserve it! Keep on keeping on..
Thanks man, I feel the same, frustrating, especially when you see some of the clickbait garbage that continually outperforms my videos.
@@50Acres No shit....things that make you go hmmmmm!
I've watched several DIY mini-split install videos but yours just popped up & like your format! (Thanks for the 'subtle' music vs how some folks try to make music videos!)
I always try to learn something from each video I watch & for me - that flaring tool is the bomb! I have one of the other style, too and like you I have never had luck with it. Owned it for 40+ years and maybe got 3 good flares out of it.
With a tool like that I won't have to get a 'quick-connect' style mini-split and find a way to hide the extra coiled lineset.
Thanks again! New sub!
Thank you, I’m glad you found the video helpful and welcome to the channel.
We've had our 12,000BTU pioneer for over 2 years now and love it.
Glad to hear that!
Best thing we ever did was put a split unit in our 3 season cottage in CT. It is easy to run and energy efficient. A real work horse. It will be a game changer in hot weather. Great job!
Nice! Glad to hear that. I love these things.
I built a couple walk in coolers for my business. The refrigeration unit I bought and the lines came pre-charged, so I didn't have to pull a vacuum, it really was just plug and play. The lines came in several optional lengths so it wasn't an issue to get something to fit.
Oh, one more thought. I don't bury linesets in a wall if I can avoid it. I've had to repair refrigerant leaks at the evaporator (indoor unit) flares. Leaving an access would be great. I would also put nail plates on the studs to protect the lineset from nails too. See ya. Dan.
Good advice
Pro tip. I agree with your friend to pressure test with nitrogen. Never pressure test with air. I know you didn't/won't but I'm just putting it out there for others that might consider it. Also I agree with you, 500 microns or less. When evacuating a system with a leak, you will pull in "non condensables" meaning air and moisture. Moisture will react with the compressor oil and create an acid that literally eats the system from the inside out. The other DIY friendly system , not naming names, has pre charged lines that you can not shorten, so no evacuation needed. It's acceptable, just doesn't look professional. See ya, Dan.
me being an AC tech myself, your friend should of also tell you that Nitrogen also drys the system out as well as check for leaks, you never pull a vacuum without checking for leaks. That being said, mini splits are fairly easy to set up. Just an FYI 300 microns is industry standard for 410A So it is manufacturers recommendation. no one does it though.
Cool, good to know about the industry standard.
Exactly....."no one does it". I self installed one, then had a 'pro' come out to vac it down and start up. He didn't "do it" either.....just ran a pump for about 30 min, used a set of standard gauges to judge "good enough" and turned the gas loose. Lasted about a year before the gas was gone.
Then I watched enough videos to see how it SHOULD have been done, bought a pump, refrigeration gauges, a tank of nitrogen/regulator, a micron gauge and a tank of 410a. Fixed the first one, and installed the next one in my house + 2 more 3 head units for a neighbor building a new house. None of them have needed any 'service' since installing several years ago.
Great video. Split system units are what I'll be using on my cabin build when I start later this year. Super helpful and informative.
Thank you, good luck on your build.
Loved the Mario music at the beginning of the video Mike!!
Ha ha when I found that music I knew I had to use it. Reminded me of playing Nintendo nonstop until we were crosseyed.
I love my robinair 8cmf pump. Weighs a ton, but has helped me with my hashing greatly. 😎🤙🦅. Solid units.
This thing has been pretty solid every time I've used it.
Ti sto guardando dopo una dura mattina a spostare travi da solo. Mi veniva voglia di essere li ad aiutarti. Come capisco quando per certi lavori bisogna essere in due. Sei forte e molto determinato questo fa di te un vero eroe. 💪💪👍 ciao
Grazie Mauro, si sono con te a volte hai bisogno di una mano in più. Ho dei simpatici amici che mi aiutano di tanto in tanto ma non possono essere qui tutti i giorni!
Nice install. I have put in about 7 of these units and they are just phenomenal. Quiet and efficient compared to other types of ac. You made the right choice with the Pioneer, it's inexpensive (for a mini split) and is very efficient and reliable. I have a few units that are 7 years old going strong(senville units but are the exact same as Pioneer)
It's really been a great unit. The other one I had still works like a champ.
Thank you again for sharing your journey with all of us. Hoping this year brings you and your family health, wealth and success in the days ahead. Thanks for making the day a little bit better. Glad the mini split is working for you. Peace!
Thank you Peter, have a great day!
I love getting new tools too.
Another great addition to the cabin. I’ve thought about a mini split for a couple of my projects but never pulled the trigger. You make everything look too easy lol. FYI…. You can rent little bottles of nitrogen at the welding supply stores. Nitrogen pressure test would allow you to leak check your connections with soap like you did on your propane piping, but it also helps with non-condensables in the system, which helps the vacuum pump be more efficient quicker. Keep up the good work. So awesome that pioneer was willing to work with you. I hope lots of people will be encouraged to buy one of their units and you’ll see a return as well. I’m blown away that you can run so much stuff out there from your solar and inverters. I hope your loan officer is as impressed as the rest of us. Cheers!
Hey Justin, thank you man. There were some challenges with this install, mostly hunting down leaks. I always try to show the good with the bad. Thats really cool about the nitrogen, I wish I had taken the time to get some, and the right gauges for doing it. Pioneer was good to work with. I also wanted to make a video that let people know that they have options other than DIY.
It's all ok with the mini split.
It takes some secounds until
the outdoor unit with the fan works. 👍
Good to know!
autoparts store around me have free tool rentals and they have vac pumps has the ports needed for auto and home. just borrow it for a day and didnt have to buy for a one time use. great install
Yea that is pretty awesome if I knew about that I would definitely not have bought the gauge set.
Nice addition to the cabin👍
Thanks 👍
Mini splits are modern miracles.
I agree, some sort of wizardry.
I also installed a pioneer mini split in my cabin. I did the cassette unit and built ductwork to blow the air up through the floors. I’ve been very satisfied with it and it’s hardly made a dent in my electric bill. Also I did have to replace a fan motor, but they sent me a new one no questions asked. Good install video, I think you’ll be very happy with it.
Nice I love how they have all these different head unit styles now. Glad to hear your experience was a good one.
Now that's a big step in the direction of comfort. Awesome. I am continually blown away by your attention to detail and your ability to make me go out and purchase more tools.lol. awesome work as always and I always look forward to the next video.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
My hvac jobs are mostly Residential/Commercial but we do a lot of Minisplits. I would advise putting pipe dope on the flare nut mail fitting. Better seal.
About time.... What were you waiting for ... Christmas. THANKS for the video !!!!
Ha ha no problem!
You will be pleased with that mini split... I have a 21 BTU gree for years that i installed... Very cheap to run it... Cleaning it is a have to each year... simple too.
Right on, thanks for the heads up
You’re gonna love your mini split! I installed one for the garage/workshop and it’s wonderful any time I want to spend time out there, summer or winter.
Thank you I can't wait!
i have the same exact mini split iv had it for a year no problems at all really good unit
Nice I am glad to hear that!
With a mini split in it is now time to double or even triple your solar panels and add a whole bank of batteries. I would also consider for the winter months adding a small wind generator somewhere nearby as that works when its dark and when snow hits in the winter the wind is usually blowing.
I just doubled my battery bank and I am going from 640 to 1080 watts on my south facing array as soon as it warms up this spring!
@@50Acres I did sede you doubled the battery bank but you are now going to draw significantly more power. I have found in my off grid cabin that what I thought would be sufficient has always turned out to fall short either in power generation or power stored......Just trying to help. Love the videos and you have me trying new things as well with my cabin!
Great video my friend. Sounds like a very durable unit that will last many years. May have to look at one down the road. Have a great weekend.
John & Sheri
Thanks John and Sheri. I hope it lasts as long as my last one.
Thanks for showing the CORRECT way to do an install.
Most HVAC "professionals" would simply slap a pump on it, vac it down for 20-30 minutes and as long as it holds in the green on their Yellow Jacket gauge, call it 'good enough', turn the gas loose.....no nitrogen purge, no micron gauge test....AS most all manufacturers recommend.
That sets them up for a 'service call' in a year or so when the freon finally leaks out to the point the unit isn't doing much anymore.
Thank you Ed, sadly some of those guys give the good installers a bad name.
Good morning! FYI I was rando unsubscribed . Great to see things coming along.
oh man, been hearing that a lot lately, glad you are back.
Love your realness.
Thank you!
I have that exact same unit in my house runs like a champ.
Nice, glad to hear that.
I have the same unit and that valve on mine was leaking too. Made 2 service calls and finally the 2nd guy found it leaking. He had to order a new valve and that fixed the problem. Long story short, the cap did not hold my Freon in for longer than a few months.
I'm glad you finally got it sorted out. It seems to be a common thing for mini splits due to shipping/vibration.
Awesome B roll and intro! Great video all around always enjoy watching them.
Thank you so much, glad you liked it.
Nice job Mike, that should keep you all cool in the summer.
Thanks Jerry, we're really excited to have this on those summer days.
Great job, Mike. Everything's coming together nicely in the cabin is looking outstanding. Thanks for taking us along on your journey. Don't most carpenters sleep till 6 AM. : ))
Thanks Kelly, appreciate it bud! I'm sure most of them sleep later than 3:30!
Great idea to install one of these. The system vacuum test seems a bit intimidating for me at my level. Pretty cool! 🙌
Thanks Gary, it's a bit tricky but not too hard once you study up on it. I think usually this goes smoother, but stuff always seems to go wrong for my installs of this sort.
@@50Acres you are the master of DIY… no kidding. 😎
Coming along great Brother.
Much appreciated
It’s all good, now heat & cooling installed, this will make your cabin stay much pleasant. Happy New Year 🎈
Happy new year!
I installed one of these and it has been great. My favorite part is how quiet they are.
Nice, glad to hear that.
I like the new flaring tool. One thing I like about this type of unit as opposed to a window unit is the noise ... these are so quiet compared to a window unit. Happy New Year.
Thats true, I didn't even think about the noise difference.
I've heard really great things about the mini splits. I'll just bet you're going to be pretty darn satisfied with that unit. Good job.
Thank you, I think we will, it won't get used often but when it is I think it's going to be really appreciated.
I’ve installed hundreds of mini splits mostly Mitsubishi but I have installed one pioneer and it was a 2 ton 208/230 heat pump. I would pull that brass cap off and tighten the Schrader valve. It’s pretty common that they get stuck and or aren’t tightened completely from the factory. I see it pretty often.
Thanks, I'm planning to get the right size core tool and either tighten it or replace it, and see if it needs more or less refrigerant.
@@50Acres you do realize this is a critically charged unit. All Pros know you trying to adjust charge on a MS is not recommended by manufacture. Your charge must be accurately weighed in. A tip: Use the correct core removal tool. Appion makes the 5/16 tool. Remove the core before vacuum, then AFTER you open the service valve, you can then replace the core and no leaks. Now you will have lost charge and do not know the volume in the system of a critical charge unit.
@@PaulHVAC1 Thank you for the tips. I’ve now installed two Pioneers two Fujitsus and a Mitsubishi. In the manuals every one of them lists an acceptable line set length range for the pre charge. My hope is that since I cut about 8 feet off a 25ft set, the small bit of refrigerant I lost still leaves me in the acceptable range. What do you think? I don’t see why that compression cap wouldn’t hold in the refrigerant.
@@50Acres I'm sure it will be acceptable but just giving you tips because if you are going to video it for others, just try and get it as close to correct as you can.
In the instruction they will have oz/ft of refrigerant based on the line sizes. So lets say the system is good for 15 ft and you are running say, 37ft. Then you will weigh in the extra charge for the 22 ft, Same is true on the other end. Lets say you have a leak and over the winter you lose charge. You cannot charge these units by SC or SH. You will have to find the leak, remove the charge, repair it and then evacuate and weigh in the correct amount. Hope this helps
It's been several weeks since this install, I'm happy to report that it is working perfectly. If it wasn't working, regular viewers know I'd be the first to admit it. I always show my mistakes and never sugar coat any of my videos. I received some great advice from a viewer, Edward J. that I can get a 5/16th core remover and tighten or replace the core without needing to recover the refrigerant. If I ever need to mess with it, that's what I'll do. If I need to charge it, I have some good friends who work in commercial refrigeration who can help me out.
I just thought you were showing nature harmless technology, so I watched this video. Now I know it’s not worth paying attention to. I didn’t want to be rude or hurt somehow, I just expressed professional opinion.
It's been a while since I've been into the service manual, but I've seen a feature where you can close the liquid valve and pump the refrigerant into the outdoor unit. Close the gas valve and you can service the core. Not sure if this applies to your brand though.
@@joewiddup9753 The question when it will be done, I hope it won't be too late. And by the way there was some more wrong things done, but I don't see a reason to discuss about. I don't like this chanel already and I won't be back. Good luck there.
@@r.z.4324 Are you daft? One of the first interior projects he did was a lead acid battery bank and low voltage stuff. His truck has probably at least 100 modules (chips) in it, he edits on that table with a boost converter. WTF do you think the metals for these things comes from? Where do you think the material and labor used to construct whatever device you use to be an eco weirdo online came from? You are a base hypocrite.
Nice work Mike! I went a little different direction. Hotspot Energy offers a native 48vdc system and in 2015 I hooked it up to our 3.34kW system w/16-305ah batteries. It quietly hums in the background providing heat and air 24/7/365 in Central Texas where we do have 100+ degree days for most of the Summer. If had to do it gain I believe I would do it exactly the same.
Very nice! I really wish hotspot made a 24 volt unit, it would have been a no brainer for me.
@@50Acres Ours is installed in our guest house which was designed to be a stand alone 1000 sq ft not reliant on the grid for anything. It does have grid electric but a flip of the transfer switch takes it off. wood stove for backup heat and cooking, propane on demand hot water and the well pump is solar powered but can also be powered by the guest house if needed.
I'm not techy at all, so I never knew how mini-splits worked. I just assumed whatcha see on the inside is all of it, lol. Thanks to you, now I get it! Duh. Nice that you'll be able to cool off-grid when you need it. Thank you for another great video!
Thanks David, glad it helped you out.
Great job Mike, I like that unit. The ones we use have a minimum line set length. I like the fact that does not. It’s weird the valve didn’t hold.great addition to the cabin
Thanks Jason, I think I damaged it when I first tried to thread on the valve core remover tool. I think this one can take down to a 15 ft line set without removing refrigerant.
... leaking valve ... that is
the place where most of the R-410a will leak as soon as it begins to heat and cool in that place. As for the sponsor's gift, which has R-410a is harmful to nature,
ironically that it still uses freon R410a, because you won't find it in europe for a year now, R-32 is now in use.
Cabin's looking great!
Thank you
Wow! great video. My new house will be electric and not hooked up to the grid for power. I've been looking at these for each room as a way to cool the room off I am using... to save power. Ohio can get swelteringly hot inside. I recall going outside before because even a fan did not help inside. My aunt was in assisted living and they had one of these in each room.
I like the .... from unboxing... to final ending.... We got to see it all and it gives me a more comfortable feeling about using these.
Renting a home is damn good money. I was getting a 16% return on my dollar but they just would not pay and I had to tell them to get out. Yet, I felt bad doing so. But, the bottom line is I was not their doormat. Tenants will wreck a place once they know you are going to evict them. My tenants did damage and I sent them a bill. 4 months later they did not pay. So I told them I was going to file in small claims court. They said "don't do that! we are trying to get a loan to buy our house and that will hurt our credit rating". Two days later, they paid me cash for the damages. So if someone damages your property , use small claims court to make sure you damage their credit rating! Thanks for the upload. (We got our first snow here, about an inch. Global warming is real)
They are impressive little machines. You can buy multi head units that can serve more than one room with the same outdoor unit. Sorry to hear about your tenant issues. I got a bit burnt out myself, have downsized a good deal. Glad you were able to recover your damages.
Thanks for this video.. looking forward to hear how your batteries and inverters hold up.
I'll keep you all posted. I can run this around 8 or 09 hours with no sun, assuming no modulation. Should be longer in practice as it ramps up and down as it hits the target temp.
Hey Mike, wish I had this video when I put mine in this summer. Love how it cools in the summer..😎 Awesome to see your subs up over 66k..👏 I started watching way back trying to learn more about off-grid solar. Learned alot, so thanks for that. Keep up the good work buddy, trying to stay warm in Cambridge, MN..🥶
Hey Johnny, thank you, glad to hear the videos are helpful. Stay warm!
T'is truly a blustery day in Minnesota and tomorrow they are talking 40mph winds. I am Not looking forward to That! Twin Cities here.
Wow. I forgot today was "A Cabin and 50 Acres with Mike". What a nice way to start a very snowy day here in Kentucky. Thanks Mike for the great information. I have wanted to know about Mini Split units but just not taken the time to investigate. Now I know. Happy New Year my Friend. May you have Health, Happiness and Peace! Cheers
Hey Billy, good morning! It is freezing here today! Cheers
Awesome mini split install video 📹! Thanks for sharing! 😊👍💕💕💕
Thank you 🤗
@@50Acres you are welcome!
Great video as always!
Glad you enjoyed!
Great red enjoyed watching it like how you demonstrated how much everything costs that at the end and the tools you had to use and buy one of the better videos I've ever seen on a split install thank you great channel by the way your pond vids are awesome💯💯💯💯💯😀😀😀🤑🤑🤑
Wow thank you! I know there are tons of split install videos on YT, glad you liked mine.
Mike you always suprise me because you are always doing something new in your CABIN now your amazing wife going to ENJOY going to the cabin because it's going to be warm hope you BOTH had a WONDERFUL new year's may GOD KEEP on BLESSING you BOTH always stay safe outthere please tell your wife hello for me
Thank you Olbera, we hope you have a wonderful day and a great new year.
You do great work and neatly.
Thank you estella!
I used to build fuel stations and we would test for leaks with nitrogen, pressure tests dont allow things to enter into the system and they are easier to find leks with a song and some soap suds. we also used helium forcing it through lines and then drilling a bunch of holed in the parking lot according to the as-built plans and using a sniffer we would detect the leak, dig, and repair. nitrogen is purchased at welding supply shops
I wish that I had just got some.
@@50Acres sorry not a song a sponge
Great installation. I have seen a bunch of people installing the Mr Cool units. Yours looks great. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Sheila.
Good morning Mike. You said you filmed this episode earlier but I thought I'd comment anyway. I believe the condenser (outdoor part) need to be minimum of 10' from the propane tanks. The condenser is considered an ignition source. Now I realize propane is heavier than air and will settle to the ground but still. 10' minimum here in CT. As for other comments of 14 ga. wire on a 15a breaker is correct. 12 ga wire for a 20a. Good to see your progress, I look forward for each installment. See ya next time, Dan.
Oh no kidding, thanks for the heads up on that. The breaker it is on is a 15 amp breaker, the 20 amp breaker I flipped at the end of the video is the breaker for the whole box.
When not using the Split, remember to tie some steel mesh to that out vent pipe.. come next summer.. there will be bugs n wasps trying to make a nest in that space. lastly a good AC fitter always takes a photo of the Barcode and the Model sheet on the outer A/C unit.. for future reference plus it also ensure you have the right remote to use if your unit remote is outta order.
Yea good call, bugs get in everything here!
Wow, it's really getting civilized in there! Lots of work though. Great testimonial for the unit - surviving all that abuse in the rental shows that it should really hold up to the minimal use you guys will give it.
We're going to be comfortable this summer!
@@50Acres And that , my friend, is exactly the point.
I'm looking at getting a mini split for my 2 car garage workshop. The previous owner used a window unit for AC and a propane radiant heater. I'm also looking at the multi-zone system for my house.
I really like these things, cost of operation is really low in most climates.
You made the treadmill easy, well at least 25 minutes of it
Glad to hear that Bill good work!
It's nice to know what needs to be done and the know how to accomplish the intent successfully...great job Mike. Happy New Year!!!
Thank you, Happy New Year!
Nice video considering putting a mini split in my shop and this helped me. Thanks
Glad it helped Paul
Great video. I would have done a ground mount as it’s a little quieter but more work. Enjoy!
Thank you!
Great job! Thank you for showing us how to do this!
my pleasure Deanna
Great video what’s the name of the flaring tool kit that you use?
I can’t remember off hand but I’m 90% sure I have a link to it in the description. It’s more expensive than most but it works every time.
you are supposed to put POE oil on threads when tightening down flare to keep vibration from backing off nuts
I like the Raytek Mini Temp thermometer.
Thank you!
Great job and video. However if you’re going to plaster that wall behind the split indoor unit I’d have left the hose joints behind the unit (outside the wall). You will be thankful if you ever have to replace the unit.
Yea I am going to do drywall there so I can cut into and and easily patch it if ever needed.
Nice install man. One of the better mini split videos. I admit I had a standard efficiency Pioneer and it worked awesome at my last house. At this house, I bought a high efficiency model. It didn't seem to cool as well. It ended up being too small so I bought a big LG mini split. The LG works so well that I admit I'll never go back to a Pioneer. The LG moves more air, keeps the room at a more constant temp, and just works better. But, I do still like the Pioneers for a budget system. I used a Pioneer line set for my LG because of the ease of install. The LG also can ramp all the way down to 3,000btu just barely running to maintain or 30k btu peak to cool quickly. You mentioned Mr. Cool. They wouldn't reveal max/min BTU specs to me so i ruled them out!
Thank you, I have a Fujitsu in my shop and it is awesome, 33 seer, makes heat down to minus 14. I can't justify that out here though, we'll probably use it 10 days a year total.
Easy fix. Pump the unit down by closing the small king valve, run it in ac for 60 seconds then close the 1/2 valve. Remove and replace shrader.
Dude Mike! This was a GREAT video! I've always wanted to know more about mini splits, since I'd like to have them for my house and the kids club house, I think your video explained them the best that I've EVER seen! Your install was mint too! I learned a lot! Hope everything is good on your end! I'll make sure when I buy, I'll use your link, might have to think about this for the summer time for sure!
Hey thanks man, yea a multi head mini split system would be awesome for your house. So many options now for any type of install, ceiling mount, ducted, monitor style, wall mount like mine. Let me know if you ever get serious about putting one in, I’ll help you out.
@@50Acres Dude yeah, I'll for sure talk to you about it when I get closer! And thank you so much for the help offer! I've been meaning to do more work on the club house, but it's been hard to find some supplies for it... I hope this Spring I'll be able to get the insulation I need. Still trying to figure out what to do about the inside...
5 CFM is a good choice for a vacuum. It speeds up the process by quite a lot. also, if you happen to get a 1/2-inch hose for the vacuum it would work even faster to get it down to 500 microns. In the field, tech usually do triple evacuation get it down to 500 microns on the third vacuum. Nice house by the way and good luck.
Thank you Tim.
I like those systems. I wondered about condensation. All of the descriptions I've seen online never mentioned it. Humidity bothers me much more than heat and you know as well as me how humid it gets around these parts.
Good job.
Yea, its pretty neat, most of these have a de-humidify setting as well.
Well done Mike, minisplits are great for quick heat or cooling, also cost effective especially if you are using solar.
Thanks Heather, I agree, love them.
Bravo mike ! Good job ! 👍
Always watching frm Turin
Ciao !
Thank you very much Juan!
A lot of good info in this one, thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video 👍😊 Mike. Excellent information. Thanks.
Thank you Doug.
these systems work great but you need to clean the inside filters on the units inside your home at least once a month due to mold build up .
Thanks for the tip!
he could spray it when he leaves the camp with Lysol? so it will be ready when he comes back:)
I don't know what came up? Sorry I got a new computer. Loved the video.😀
Welcome back Tim thank you
You have to seal up the insulation on that line set better. My previous company had a hell of a time chasing down leaks because that white insulation desolves and is corrosive. They stopped using that type.
no kidding? I wonder if it's the same stuff.
...gotta keep comfy..lol..good job, keep safe...
Thanks, you too!
Just a FYI that little duct lees split needs all the refrigerant it may only hold about 1-2 lbs All you would’ve had to do is tap your Schrader because they get stuck and would’ve stopped the leak in valve
I cut off about 8 feet of line so it might work out. If I need to charge it I have some friends who work in the business who can help me out. If I could have though fast enough I should have done that to the valve.
To do the hose removal most effectively, hold pressure on the connection with your hand while loosening the nut - press the hose into the fitting even as you're loosening the nut. Even a high pressure inside the line you should be able to hold the seal together just by hand. Then when the nut is completely loose, let up on the hose so it comes completely off all at once. You'll get just a little *pfft* of gas puffing out (if your valve holds like it's supposed to).
Thanks for the nice tip!
the way I was taught to tighten a compression fitting was to tighten it, back it off a 1/4 turn and tighten again.
Cool I will give that a try. I am doing something wrong on these compression fittings I always have trouble with them.
@@50Acres hydraulic lines with jic fittings are the same way if you need to swap out a hose on your excavator
You might want to reinforce your wall studs where you put those large holes though, there is not much wood left for strength.
Yea, I was thinking that too.
Came here to say the same thing. That is a definite code violation in some parts, especially if it is a load bearing wall, which it looks to be! It can be a code violation if you drill small holes improperly for wire runs let alone that monstrosity of a hole :). If you start noticing any sag…that would be my prime suspect. I only just learned of the issues this can cause when a friend had some sag issues caused by too many holes in a horizontal beam.
@@riley4545 It is a load bearing wall, there isn't any risk of compression, the only risk is the outward force of the roof causing them to hinge over, of the 11 2x6 studs on that wall 3 of them have those holes. It will probably be fine, but Ill keep an eye on it. We don't have any building codes or inspectors so it's a matter of looking out for myself!
Watching you do stuff is always like this weird feeling of undercover boss, like i feel you are one of the most proffesional DIYers around the fact that your like an hour away from me blows my mind. showed my grandma your videos and she has suspicions of what county you are in because of the beautiful scenery. good to see you again in the new year my friend hope you had a decent holiday
Ha ha thanks man, hope your grandma enjoyed the video.
It's great to see the unit installed and working well. What happens to the efficiency as the temp drops? Honestly, your videos are so insightful and it's really refreshing that you admit/acknowledge that mistakes get made, things are frustrating and sometimes, the plan doesn't work out. But, you keep going. THAT is a great lesson for anyone. Thanks again for the content and the time you put into sharing. Really, truly appreciated.
Hey Jim, thanks so much man. The efficiency decreases as the outside temp drops (or rises in the case of cooling). With heating it will eventually get to a point where it will stop working. Some units will actually work down to -15 degrees and at some point switch over to resistant heat. Some have built in pan heaters for the outdoor units. Lots of cool choices and features. Glad you appreciate the videos.
I have a cabin and I think I’m going to get something like that for it in the future! Great video
You should! I really like these things.
Note when you put the bracket on the out side wall you only put two screws on the you should have put two more screws each side of the lower bracket .there is only to screws holding the entire condensing unit more support and stronger. 1/13/2022
Hi Frank, I actually put in more screws but only showed one each so that it wouldn't get boring for the viewer.