25] Refitting Our Hallberg-Rassy 352 Sailboat (Part 1) | Abandon Comfort - DIY Sailing
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Happy Thursday! In this week's episode, we get Luci's bottom prepped for new paint, find some cracks in our rudder's gel coat and tear out some wet, rotten plywood inside the boat.
Next week we finish painting Luci's bottom, drive 3,000 miles to pick up her synthetic teak and then begin the biggest project yet - tearing up our 33-year-old teak deck.
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Hey Crew if you're excited to see more boat projects be sure to give this episode a thumbs up! Much appreciated and see you all next Thursday night 🙂
Everyone should be like me and already thumbs uped every one of your video's.. I mean, it's not like it's hard or takes any time away from their day, And it damn sure isn't like they're not worth a thumbs up, because they're worth 3 or 4, but old UA-cam cornered the market on those thumbs, and they only allow one per video.. Dammit! Why does UA-cam have to be so greedy with those thumbs!! lmao! Just acting a fool.. I hope all is well, and I can not wait until next week.. Peace!
id give my left testicle to find a woman like that sailor wants a wife LOL
Love watching Boat Projects... :)
It always surprises me that people thumb down your videos ... I mean the percentage is very low but maybe a little feedback? The really funny thing is that they probably don't realise that it still counts towards You Tube taking more notice of the video which is still good news for you guys.
Truth is I'm mostly giving the thumbs up because we now want a Aussie Shepherd to keep our German Shepherd company on our camping trips after watching your videos. Damned expensive in the UK mind!!
Hey AC, ordered my Octo shirt, waiting to add it to my Chasing Bubbles and Delos Tees! I recently did some sailing along the Keys. Had a great time using paper charts, magnetic compass, and dead reckoning. But times they are a changing. You two seem very computer savvy, and I am not. Could you do a "how to navigate with electronic chart plotter for dummies" I would love a real simple explanation with advice on what to download, what tablet works best etc. If that is a project you feel you have expertise in I would love to watch it. If this is asking you to reinvent the wheel, and you know of a good source point me there. The UA-cam library has a lot of junk and no useful stuff in my searches. Thanx
You should put a ring on that! She isn't afraid to get down and dirty.
Really great to see you guys properly digging to the bottom of issues and getting them resolved. It is refreshing to see such a healthy work ethic! As always, thanks so much for sharing.
Steve
Hey guys, I'm a diver who does hull cleanings. Depending on water conditions that stuff may have grown there between the cleaning and when Lucy was pulled out of the water. If you're not confident in the cleanings being done, shop around for a new diver and ask them if they would be willing to take a GoPro or similar camera down with them to give your a before & after of the condition of the hull. This will also help you to keep track of overall condition below the waterline.
Dirt Wood ... That could be the name of a band...!! 🎹 🥁. 🎸 🎼
I don't know about anyone else but, looks like she is doing most of the work! Where do you find a good, hard working woman like her? Lucky man!
Thanks for sharing.....providing realistic look at an aspect of boat ownership. Glad you two have the energy, skill and SHARED desire to do all this.
This is the second video of yours that I have watched and I'm going to call you the Hulkettes because you plow through sh*t non-stop. You just don't quit. What energy and the great thing is you don't seem to let the new negative revelations put you into a mental tailspin. Lots of people who buy a boat and decide to overhaul get overwhelmed by the type of crapola you have been facing.
Impressed with your work ethic and thoroughness. Where you are going demands those two things...but I think many others wing it a lot more. Good for you two...love the videos.
Always looking forward to yalls videos. I pause everything I'm doing to watch your videos.
Thank you so much for letting us know this! Really makes all the time we put into editing so worth it. Stoked to continue to share this crazy journey we call life with you :)
The repairs interest me. I especially like the key points. Some processes like painting and sanding can be belabored. But yes, please keep us informed of what you are doing. Best of luck. You folks are doing great.
I wish I was close enough to walk Roo while you work! Great episode! You are hard workers!
He would love it! He's quite bored while we're doing projects down below :) We typically go for a 3-mile walk with him every day though so he's a little tired out beforehand. Thanks for the support, Peggy!
great to see that you two work so well together. life lessons you are teaching us. fair wind to you always
Reminds me of being in the shipyard when I was in the Navy, love you're dedication!!
Your boat project vids are even more interesting now that I have my own boat projects. Thanks again for some quality entertainment!
Awesome!! Congrats :) What type of boat? Details please, haha.
1991 Hunter Legend 43...her name is Artemis, and she's our new home. We are currently in the process of getting rid of all of our stuff. Your videos were like a step by step how-to. With the exception of the mattress...there is no way we are fitting a queen size mattress down our companionway. Im still in awe of that.
Youthful Exuberance!!!!!!
Hi Guys thanks for sharing.
That discolouration of the ply under the mattress isn't spilled acid its where water has got into the plywood and discoloured it, I've been working on boats for over 50 years. Fair winds.
Always great to see such dedication to fixing things by a couple. Good job!
Thanks, Brian! Almost running out of things to fix - might be time to go sail and break some more things :)
AWESOME!!! Just stumbled across your channel, LOVE IT. Subscribed & binge watched several hours of episodes. Cant wait to follow you on yours & Roos adventures. Stay safe.
About the plywood around the propshaft: i had a similar set up on my Contest 29. The ply wood has two tasks. One is, on my boat, to have something to fix the inner shaft bearing to, without having to drill into the fibreglass. Second is for installation. When building the boat, they put the tube in, in which the shaft runs, line it out anfd then fill it up with Polyester.
Appreciate the insights! Definitely seems right to us.
Let's hear it for "Conrad the Sail boat Guy"! So nice he was so near by to help out.
good luck with your refit. we have a smallar sailboat to fix but I fully understand how tiring this can be (but also very rewarding!). keep up the good work. fair wind. Alberto
Wonderful episode guys! Nice work with the camera in tight spaces, for sure! And that person doing all the sanding, top notch!
Kels crushed it! She's a sanding beast :)
Well at least there is working on the boat in this video.
You two are doing a deck job so you should have time to do a full bottom job. I would strip all that old bottom paint to the gelcoat... the whole hull. Move on to the deck job to give the hull time to dry out if it needs it (have some moisture readings done). Take your time fixing the cracks and damage you find with epoxy/glass. Someone already mentioned below, the rudder could have a wet core. Take your time and fix it right. After 6 or 8 weeks or drying time and all the blemishes fixed, put on a fresh barrier coat of Interprotect 2000E.
have we established if that rudder HAS a Balsa Core ??????
Not sure, and not likely on a Hal Rassey. Even if its a foam core they can still soak up water.
Rudders are cored. If water has gotten into the core have to cut it out re core and re glass.
Love to see what you guys are up to and cant wait for next ep. 2018 is your year, go get it!
Gotta love that dirt-wood!
Be brave be radical and chop out all the wet wood once and for all. 👍👍👍
The wet wood directly under the chain plate makes me wonder if you have inspected them. I don't remember hearing how old they are but if you haven't, or don't have it in your plans, I would encourage you to do so, including removing them. It is awesome to see how well Roo is taking to the boat and the sailing he has done. And Kelsey looks like a natural with the war paint :)
Love the HR 352, bit too much boat for me though. Moisture readings on that rudder and around the anchor pintles is in order I would say. I would drill a few small holes in the very bottom of the rudder to see what comes out myself. Your can just jack some 5200 in to reseal them. The wood at the stern tube could have been temporary support for the shaft tube to hold it in place while the glass work was done.
Love the boat project video and know how tough all that can be! Keep up the great work and cheers from a Swedish sailing family
Knot Vikings thank you so much 🙂 go swedes! You guys know how build some solid boats haha
Taste it. It's not poisonous. If it's not ocean salty, don't worry, replace the chain plate and stuffing. Spit all you like, it works.
Your dog cracks me up!! 🤗
:-)
With the boat on the hard, you should really take that rudder off and do a thorough Reno on it. It’s all about peace of mind when you’re back in the water and cruising.
Great vid guys, lovely you work together, great to see.😍
Remember that red hull paint is TOXIC! Be healthy guys. ☢☠☠
Rudder looks scary to me, keep yr eye on it in yr travels...🤔
Keep those great vids comming😂
Thanks Craig :)
great video!! i really enjoyed it!!
One step closer.
Ok so my guess about the plywood you found with some epoxy paint on it would be that even with an inch of fiberglass it needs a solid shape to hold on to while it cures. No need to take the plywood out after the fiberglass sets up so it sat there for years and finally rotted itself out.
This seems like a good guess to us as well! Thanks so much for your insights & comment.
Do you guyz ever hear from Jim? Curious if he watches your videos...
It might be a difference between the German Frers and Olle Enderlein layup design but our hull in the Rasmus is a lot different inside. The construction of the cabinetry and the slats are dead on identical though. They didn't change that at all. We have no wood down below like that embedded into the hull and have had zero problems with wetness/rot because of that. In our boat the cabinetry and V-berth supports are all sitting on a big squared-off section of fiberglass molded in as stringers from bow to stern. It is hollow and doesn't have any wood in it I do not believe. Some of the upper ones are used as conduits for wires.
We had similar wet wood and the "potting soil" in our deck though under the stanchions. We had to open it up and dig it all out before filling in with thickened fiberglass. What a PITA.
Your shaft tube and stuffing box are a LOT more accessible than ours. We have to basically crawl down into the keystone area in the aft cabin head-first and then below the sole panels and do a handstand to reach it.
Don't forget to post the fixes and update us next video. I'm interested to see how you reinforced the area to support the V-berth crossbeam.
That black stain almost looks like blood. Maybe the last owner was a cannibal and he kept the carcasses up there under the V-berth. Haha. Don't think about that ;)
So yeah, I'm thinking one of the wives of Mad Max! Yes, that is where this is from! 6:16
Perfect thumbnail.
Good luck with the wood work! I need to replace most of my panels and a port light and I'm not too thrilled about it...
Another great video! I know boats are an almost constant project of repairs and upgrades but i now see the excitement in getting a free boat. Have you decided based on the poll you posted what your future plans are for the upcoming season? Thanks again for sharing everything with us.
We probably won't know our hurricane season plans until March. Everything is crazy hard to plan when you live on a boat! Free boats are exciting - you just need to make sure its a "unicorn"! 99% of free boats are no good :) As always, thanks for the comment and support, Tony!
Echoing a lot of prev comments. Great to see you BOTH giving it the full monty (work)! ;) Keep it up!
Ian Griffiths thank you so much 🙂
I would say that the stuffing box needs new seals / bearings and re adjustment. Are the leak proof rubber bellows still good and sealing.the stuffing box The box will most likely have a grease nipple ? Cheers from an old wooden boat owner.
You guys need to go to Harbor Freight and get yourselves a couple cheap shop lights so you can use them in the boat for repairs
I'm a boat builder, the rudder, they are almost always an issue with keeping them water tight, best rudder is all hi-tec composite, post and all, pricey though.
So, rudders have metal components, and are also made of timber, foam etc all glassed with polyester or epoxy, both will not stick to metal, peels off, there's where the water gets in.
If the inside of your rudder is dry, ur lucky, if it's wet, then it is a removal, strip & rebuild job if you don't want any more issues. (You will still have future maintenance though)
See, those rudder pintels - the metal hinges, 'in' the rudder (where it's cracked) need to be external of the glass layup on the rudder, usually in a rebate, which has been glassed when the rudder was built, then some lay up over this for stream lining and looks, (or bog it up as later others see this as a fail and lay up more glass over the 'fail') this way no water will get into the rudder timber/foam to rot, stay wet and be forken heavy-as....
Now here's the thing, there is the rudder post, it has the same problem, it's metal, but here I have almost always removed the glass and core around the metal stock (post) a good 1 inch, beveled in on a 45 deg angle, glassed that tidy, when half set removed any glass/resin off the post to metal, 2 pack primed the glass after a little sanding to tidy up, then slightly over filled the 45 deg glassed hole with MS Polymer - wait a day till set and with a new 5/8" craft knife blade sliced it back to the rudder shape, (MS Polymer doesn't sand good) then undercoat and anti foul her.
Ideally, if you can get details on the original build plans, you will then have an idea where issue is, how the hinge is built into the rudder. The above mentioned repairs, may not be the whole issue.......
Some rudder builds have large metal plates the hinge is bolted/welded too and timber/foam is sandwiched to both sides, shaped, and glassed.
A short term fix to the above hinge/glass crack, may be cutting away some glass to a point where the glass is thicker, then knife on MS Polymer best you can, this giving a flexible join, but every time she is hauled give it a good look over. Re building rudders is a big but not insurmountable job for your abilities, and lots of learning hear is great!
Possible that the wood by the prop shaft was there as a dam to hold back the epoxy/glass mixture that was poured around the shaft log. If so, it is neither structural nor needed. Remove it and move onto other projects. Any wood near the prop shaft is going to get soaked.
Great video! Glad to see Roo pitching in. 😉 A good sign he has really bonded to you guys. Q. Do you know how the water got in, in the first place? Otherwise, won't that be a reoccurring problem? Thanks for sharing! 😍⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
those clouds!
You guys are doing so well. Keep it up
Thank you!! Appreciate the comment & support.
You guys rock. Love watching your adventures.
I'd have someone with experience inspect that rudder and mounts ... absolutely critical that you can count on it to do it's job when stressed in rough waters.
Yea we had the guys at the yard look it over. They said its just the gel coat and nothing more. The rudder is solid just needed some epoxy & barrier coat to fill it in.
Boy I don't know, as a mechanical designer and if I saw the cracks shown in the video. It would be coming off for a through inspection and repair
good luck with the refit, gang! :D
Thanks, Chris!! Next episode should be a fun one for you! Back up in LBI for a winter surf session on the way to get the teak.
Abandon Comfort shred that gnar for me!
Looks like your rudder has been in a collision. Inside, the core of some boats is balsa wood. Goes like sponge when wet. Replace and re fibre Matt it.
Yea we don't think was due to a collision. It's a few small cracks in the gel coat near the mounts, the structural integrity of the rudder is sound.
Abandon Comfort lucky, maybe just stress cracks from sitting in a cradle. Or excessive rudder angle when under full power from the prop.Good luck with your refit. 👍
Excessive rudder angle sounds right. We'll have to look that up!
Abandon Comfort if you reverse your boat and apply half to full throttle spinning your prop at high speed and long durations. then turn your rudder at large angles it puts the rudder under a very high load. Short burst of power when manoeuvring. It can do the same going forward with the rudder full over and high power. Slow controlled and small rudder inputs. Maybe difficult with a long keel, but use your prop walk and prop wash to turn. Look it up. 👍👌
BOW WAVE PAUL has some legit insight. That rudder can experience tremendous stress when thrown over hard.
Hi
Not nice to use time to repair your boat when you love to sail 🙃 but it is a good way to learn more about the boat. I don’t know if you know the you-tuber “Sail Life”, but you can lean a lot from him about, about fixing.
Nice to follow you, keep it coming 😊
Man I've missed y'alls video's
It's only been a week!! But we're happy you've missed them :)
Nice work guys! I'm impressed you got the sanding done in a day! Were you sore the next day?
LOL - I loved the sound of the B-17 taxiing while you were on the shaft. You guys should go into foley work.
I love the written instructions. I've done the same throughout my house. The next owner should appreciate it.
You guys should have bottled up the dirtwood and sold it as Abandoned Comfort exclusive "dirtwood." lol
Did you consider sending the rudder in for a professional refinishing?
Great insights into your projects and the status of Lucy. Keep up the great works guys and I'm anxiously awaiting your next video!
Hi. Great vids!!!!!
The red bottom paint has lots of copper and other poison in the paint! A dust mask is not sufficient. The particles can get around and thru. Get a respirator! About 25 bucks at ACE, HD or Lowes. We need you around to make videos!
We definitely will be doing a full face respirator next time! Lesson learned on this one :)
And you have to shave to get any kind of seal.
Not so much copper these days I believe but some rather nasty pesticides which are really bad news for living things. Like the person says respirator with good filters and I would cover up any exposed skin and use a barrier cream as well.
I've heard that sometimes wood below the waterline gets wet due to condensation. You might not be leaking through the chain plates.
Good to know. Appreciate the comment and insights, Patrick!
Guys I don't envy you that work, it's the darkside of DIY boat ownership, pretty brutal but please do yourself a favour and get a multitool, as I have mentioned in a previous comment they are amazing. I'll guarantee that you'll both kiss me in pure gratitude once you've experienced the wonder and bliss of multitool ownership, especially scraping they have no match. I had a similar feeling after getting one and the realisation of a lifetime of balls-ache that could have been avoided with a multitool in my hands.
I personally would recommend the previous generation Fein or any similar Multitool that uses a similar tool interface, because the blades are so cheap, universal and plentiful, the current generation uses an almost proprietary tool interface that has as yet not been widely cloned and copied. Last I checked the dewalt also uses a tool interface that uses easy to source blades. If you doubt my words then try at least rent a multitool first and see for yourselves what I am talking about. Good luck and don't forget to use ear muffs/plugs with noisy power tools 😉
You mentioned your chainplates ... check out two episodes from "sailing sv sarean". I believe 3 wks ago and 1 month ago are the episodes you should see. Hopefully not an issue for you but if so may help with ideas. Good luck
So cold out east this past week, reported as "bomb cyclone", hope all good for your crew... maybe you are south of it all ?
good vid........thanks
Thanks for the comment & support, William!
I’ve fixed many things on my inboard/outboard power boat but one thing I will not do is sand bottom paint. That toxic job I will pay the boat yard to do...please use the best personal protection stuff you can get.
Thank you for the video!
I have a little question.
What is the height of the cabin?
Love it!
World's Corner Sailing thanks guys!!
Love ya!
LOL... that wood around the prop shaft was structural and you ripped it out that means your boat is DEFINITELY going to sink! (sarcasm) By the way I can't wait to start tearing up some teak. God knows we're good at tearing things apart :)
Sounds familiar!!! ;) Stoked to see you guys tomm. and get this deck up!
a demo party !! Yee Haw !! you guyz get to have All the FUN !!!
Love boat project videos..
keep 'em coming
I don't know anything really about boats, but I am guessing that the plywood by the fiber glass was part of the form.
Good luck
Thanks, Kieran!! We'll need it with this teak deck we're tearing up tomorrow
Really great vids, I am in the process of doing the same thing, selling everything and buying a boat. I would also like to document my adventure. If I was to start with one camera what would you suggest the gopro to start or a DSLR?
Keep up the good work, you two are really great together.
Where is that wet wood from? I thought your boat is made from Fiberglas!
Just wondering what the purpose of that piece of wood in the beginning was supposed to be? If it is a longitudinal stringer to stiffen the hull, then the flat surface just below it would serve the same purpose. Just seems like a bad design. If it were me I would just strip the whole area free of wood and down to bare fiberglass hull. On my boat the whole cabin sole was wet plywood glued to the hull underneath. I just ripped all the wet wood out. Much better and no moldy odor either. If you feel you really need a longitudinal stringer, I would just cut a closed cell foam strip and glass it to the inside of the hull. The glassed in box shape will provide stiffness with no worries about future rot.
Oi! UA-cam! Why was this video not in my Sub feed?!
nice Vid guys.... could you let me know what editing software you use? I loved the " Abandon comfort" Text effect at the end of the post. Thanks.
Rule if you throw it away you will need it later.
How does the Hallberg-Rassy compare to other sturdy boats, like Bristol Yachts and Cape Dory?
So are you just spotting this by eye or are you using some sort of moisture monitor?
It is reassuring in this total electronic realm, everywhere, that I hear someone ask a good question. 'What's relative?' was good-
hey guys good job, Kelsey you should use a better respirator mask that stuff is poisonous and Ryan check all the chain plates and seal the deck if necessary water destroys everything
Agreed! Next time we're getting full-face respirators. And the chainplates need to be rebedded and sealed. The deck comes up tomorrow so we'll have a better idea of what we're looking at with the chainplates and the new deck will be watertight. :)
cool
curacao11 agreed definitely a better mask is needed. Ideally if you’re not going back to bare you should wet sand the antifoul.
They do not make a anti-barnacle paint? Maybe depleted uranium based?
Are you still in CHBS? If you are, so are we. Maybe we can get together.
Hi guys, now I know, why you paid only $30K for a HR253. Here in Europe they are traded between $50K and $100K. This project will become a total refit for sure. Spectator sport. Good luck.
$50.00 for a diver to clean the bottom? Costs $300.00 where I am.
I sure hope you tested that paint for metals (not just lead). I do this for a living (I'm a "CIH", look it up). Breathing any metals is bad. You should ditch those disposable respirators and get rubber ones with purple cartridges. If your face under the respirator is covered with the dust you're trying to filter, then so are your lungs. And sorry, but you need to shave your face down to the skin. Wearing any respirator with facial hair is like punching a big hole in your respirator. The respirator has to seal tight against your skin. Breathing that dust is just asking for future health problems.
Hey cutie! Lipstick goes on your lips, not everywhere but. Just kidding!
Looks like loads of fun!
Get a folding prop
We'd love to! But they are quite expensive $
Abandon Comfort it will make you miles in the long run.
Write them a check, Fred.
dark video is dark
Three dead pixels on the camera, made me think I had dead pixels on my monitor.
Was some body more dirty then the other 😎
Yup, Kelsey!
I started freaking out from that thumbnail! I was scared that it was blood and something bad happened! :'(
hi, encapsulating any wood especially in wet areas is never going to last. get some Coosa board. it comes in different weights and thickness and is 100% rot proof coosacomposites.com available from various sources, and great to have on hand for almost any repair.cheers warren
This probably is not the last time that you two will have to do sanding, fiberglassing etc, so buy yourselves two of the proper half face mask respirators, then use, clean and store them properly, your lungs need to last a lifetime!
Oh dear, this is nothing to get excited of...
Your goggles work but not that paper face mask. Go get a couple of respirators. All that dust is making its way to your lungs just look at your upper lip at 7:37. Yea I wrote this at 7:37 and now you're done. Go get some respirators for next time.
This episode reminds me why I sold my boat after 20 years.. after awhile it's no fun anymore