I forgot to mention this in the video, if you get an error in the enable FSO and enable MPO batch, it's because it deletes the mpo dword to disable it, so if it's already deleted, it's gonna result in an error which is completely fine.
It says the opposite on git hub of what youre saying or have I miss read it ? Fullscreen Exclusive means the game renders directly to the screen. Without it all frames are sent to the DWM first, which eventually sends the frames to the screen, provided it doesn't skip them. Not bypassing the DWM causes higher input lag and some stuttering, even if the game has perfect frame timings and low latency. Performance can also be notably lower in some cases, when Fullscreen Exclusive is not used.
this is old info, dwm does not cause input lag issues anymore if ur on a newer windows build. mpo + fso has shown to significantly have better performance than fse
@@meme-zf7ew Im also talking about FSE sending frames directly to the screen thats what it says. It says FSO goes to DWM first. How has old info changed the order of where the signal travels? This guy on git hub literally said the opposite of the order on which FSO AND FSE travels. Or has newer technology changed that order?????? Im so confused please elaborate
@@meme-zf7ew I’ll do more research 🔬 from more sources. I also visit Fr33thy channel who talks about FSE being the best so it’s very conflicting information. And Fr33thy videos are fairy new when he talks about them. Nevertheless I’ll do more research. I’ll start with blur busters.
Correct me if i am wrong but it was my understanding that disabling MPO and forcing true FSE and even setting flags to 211 within the gameconfigstore inside of the registry to force TRUE fse gave the lowest input lag and most responsive experience
@@anceltweaks ill test it out its always been habitual at this point for me to manually force a game to true FSE by setting the games flag to 211 within gameconigstore, disabling Multiplane-Overlay, and checking the box for disable fullscreen optimziations and override high dpi scaling by application. Good video mr ancel
hey man, i had a question the dwm latency when mpo is disabled goes to 8 ms and when enabled it goes to 50 ms. but fortnite goes from 6 ms to 1 ms is that a problem that the dwm latency is so high?
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Hey everyone! Need an advice here: I decided to check my current values(Win10 21H1 19043 build) configured ages ago So at this moment I have GameDVR_DXGIHonorFSEWindowsCompatible = 0 GameDVR_EFSEFeatureFlags = 0 GameDVR_Enabled = 0 GameDVR_FSEBehaviorMode = 0 GameDVR_HonorUserFSEBehaviorMode = 0 In my GameConfigStore(in fact in whole registry) key I also missing parameter called DSEBehavior Also my OverlayTestMode is 5, as I remember it means "disabled" Gameplay in my games(cs2, insurgency sandstorm, hell let loose) feels ok and snappy for me. So, should I add DSEBehavior 0, enable GameDVR_HonorUserFSEBehaviorMode(set it to 1) and enable MPO, according to mentioned video. Or all this tweaks applying to newer Win10 builds?
@@anceltweaks yes isnt that a good thing ? can you explain how its related like more in depth and what is the side effect , like me i dont have problem if vrr is enabled
I have enabled mpo and fso and also unchecked the disable fullscreen optimization. so shouldnt it be hardware composded independent flip? but why does it show hardware independent flip only
Apex Legends doesn't want to go full screen at all after doing this, only windowed mode is working tried to press alt+enter and still it only goes windowed mode , how to revert the settings ?
changed from 211 to 11 the normal value and still, i did a back up for my registery editor imported it now it's fixed but i think this method doesn't work on apex legends, or maybe something need to be changed from profile inspector for apex legends in order for this to work, cuz it was giving me gpu with guid something instead of hardware legacy flip when i did your method
@@anceltweaks i have done many tests this doesn't work on apex legends just for your knowledge, and please inform the people to back up the registery in case someone who doesn't understand will get his game fucked :)
I forgot to mention this in the video, if you get an error in the enable FSO and enable MPO batch, it's because it deletes the mpo dword to disable it, so if it's already deleted, it's gonna result in an error which is completely fine.
Update optimization batch with new tweaks, thanks!
Dont push him to do something, hes doing well and blessing us.
@@CodyAFlinn real
In fact my frame time went to 0.4 seconds compared to 8 seconds before my valorant is so much smoother. Thank you so much
Still tryna understand your batch. Thank you brother, reading it from time to time.
It says the opposite on git hub of what youre saying or have I miss read it ?
Fullscreen Exclusive means the game renders directly to the screen.
Without it all frames are sent to the DWM first, which eventually sends the frames to the screen, provided it doesn't skip them.
Not bypassing the DWM causes higher input lag and some stuttering, even if the game has perfect frame timings and low latency.
Performance can also be notably lower in some cases, when Fullscreen Exclusive is not used.
this is old info, dwm does not cause input lag issues anymore if ur on a newer windows build. mpo + fso has shown to significantly have better performance than fse
@@meme-zf7ew Im also talking about FSE sending frames directly to the screen thats what it says. It says FSO goes to DWM first. How has old info changed the order of where the signal travels?
This guy on git hub literally said the opposite of the order on which FSO AND FSE travels.
Or has newer technology changed that order??????
Im so confused please elaborate
@@Az-456 he prob forgot to change it, also fso will present the frames directly onto the screen if only the game is open
@@meme-zf7ew I’ll do more research 🔬 from more sources.
I also visit Fr33thy channel who talks about FSE being the best so it’s very conflicting information. And Fr33thy videos are fairy new when he talks about them.
Nevertheless I’ll do more research. I’ll start with blur busters.
@@meme-zf7ew My further research shows in Fr33thy newest video that FSO has been patched and indeed you are correct 👍 FSO is better 👍👊
Thank you 🎉
does bro live in my walls cz i was js focusing on this last night bro always with the w help
ty :D
Hey bro so I'm trying to understand this. Why is every pro/high elo player disabling FOS in the properties when you say it's better to have it on?
That was long time ago, its just outdated misinformation
Correct me if i am wrong but it was my understanding that disabling MPO and forcing true FSE and even setting flags to 211 within the gameconfigstore inside of the registry to force TRUE fse gave the lowest input lag and most responsive experience
No, outdated knowledge
@@anceltweaks ill test it out its always been habitual at this point for me to manually force a game to true FSE by setting the games flag to 211 within gameconigstore, disabling Multiplane-Overlay, and checking the box for disable fullscreen optimziations and override high dpi scaling by application. Good video mr ancel
@@hati4310 so how the test went?
And how do we revert this tweak please?
Enable FSE
hey man, i had a question the dwm latency when mpo is disabled goes to 8 ms and when enabled it goes to 50 ms. but fortnite goes from 6 ms to 1 ms is that a problem that the dwm latency is so high?
No, its fine
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I made all same things you did, but my valorant now is all laggy, fortunately i always make a restore point
Amd vega 10 graphics
Unfortunately I didn't make that and now I'm trying to figure out how to fix these shutters in valorant
I disable fso and mpo and it reduces my inputlag way better!
You probably did it wrong or placebo, iirc its either 23 or 27ms difference
link doesn't work to discord bro but w video as always
New/alt accounts get insta banned
@@anceltweaks I dont have an alt/ new account what should i do bro?
@@anceltweaks i have an old af acc and cant join
Do you recommend switching to windows 11? I've been on 10 for like 8 months but idk if I should stay on it
If your OS not cooked then stay on it, i recommend ltsc’s though
@@anceltweaks How can I know it's "cooked"? 🤔
Can I undo it by restoring to a previously created restore point, or what do I need to do?
Yes
@@anceltweaks thanks brother
Hey everyone! Need an advice here:
I decided to check my current values(Win10 21H1 19043 build) configured ages ago
So at this moment I have
GameDVR_DXGIHonorFSEWindowsCompatible = 0
GameDVR_EFSEFeatureFlags = 0
GameDVR_Enabled = 0
GameDVR_FSEBehaviorMode = 0
GameDVR_HonorUserFSEBehaviorMode = 0
In my GameConfigStore(in fact in whole registry) key I also missing parameter called DSEBehavior
Also my OverlayTestMode is 5, as I remember it means "disabled"
Gameplay in my games(cs2, insurgency sandstorm, hell let loose) feels ok and snappy for me. So, should I add DSEBehavior 0, enable GameDVR_HonorUserFSEBehaviorMode(set it to 1) and enable MPO, according to mentioned video.
Or all this tweaks applying to newer Win10 builds?
Yes, add it all
I have done everything but its still on legacy mode in cs2 can it be that some games only support lagacy mode?
Your pc can be forcing it through flags or environment variables
does the bat change the flags i had before i had my old flags set to 211
No, it doesn’t set flags
How do I know that legacy flip has changed to mpo and fso?
Use presentmon and see if it changed to hardware independent composed flip or hardware independent flip
can u benchmarks both ways
there is no point in doing that because there is zero to no difference in most games
Those benchmarks if you checked were 4 years ago
People get different results and always complain when they can’t test things properly, also i was in a rush to get the video out
but i have a question , why change VRROptimizeEnable to 0 in your batch of enabling MPO ⛔ ?
You don’t want variable refresh rate on
@@anceltweaks yes isnt that a good thing ? can you explain how its related like more in depth and what is the side effect , like me i dont have problem if vrr is enabled
@@Samer_Designyou get more latency
@@vnpyuh i am ok with that if thats the only problem
I have enabled mpo and fso and also unchecked the disable fullscreen optimization. so shouldnt it be hardware composded independent flip? but why does it show hardware independent flip only
You need mpo enabled for hardware composed
@@anceltweaks isnt mpo enabled if i just delete the overlaytestmode in dwm?
so it should be unchecked on "disable fullscreen optimizations" at any .exe?
Yea
@@anceltweaks still showing legacy flip :/
I cant join the server?
Apex Legends doesn't want to go full screen at all after doing this, only windowed mode is working tried to press alt+enter and still it only goes windowed mode , how to revert the settings ?
Make sure you didn’t force flags in gameconfigstore registry
changed from 211 to 11 the normal value and still, i did a back up for my registery editor imported it now it's fixed but i think this method doesn't work on apex legends, or maybe something need to be changed from profile inspector for apex legends in order for this to work, cuz it was giving me gpu with guid something instead of hardware legacy flip when i did your method
@@anceltweaks i have done many tests this doesn't work on apex legends just for your knowledge, and please inform the people to back up the registery in case someone who doesn't understand will get his game fucked :)
are on dx12 apex or dx11? i was about to test that then i saw this comment
@@domi5065 DX 11 this method doesn't work on apex legends it will bug your game so take care
I cant join the discord it say im unable to accept invite
Alt/new accounts get insta banned
Only for Intel? 😢
I didn’t specify any cpu or anything, its for everything
Can I do this on AMD CPU?
I didn’t specify any requirements, you can do it on anything
does it work in any game
Yes
I used it but can't open roblox, I don't know why
What is the error or problem, you can ask in the discord server
@@anceltweaks sry my bad its problems with fastflag
Pls new discord link
The link still works
W
I cant join your discord for some reason and I had to make a new acc can you unblock me or make me join :)
It says unable to accept inv
New/alt accounts just get insta banned
@ancel it says youre unable to accept invite on discord, help?
New/alt accounts get banned
@@anceltweaks help?
@@anceltweaks can we get unbanned? My acc got hacked so I got banned and I would like to rejoin
This only working on dx11 games...not on dx12...correct me if im wrong @anceltweaks
Anything