Wish I had known about thinning with Toluene for the 30+ years that I've been using Goop. I have repaired and adhered things that with goop that otherwise could not have been repaired or adhered. When my son was serving in the Peace Corps in a small Kenyan village he phoned me and said, "Dad they don't sell Goop here and the house they assigned us needs numerous fixes. Please mail me a couple of tubs as soon as possible." Thanks for the great info.
I used Goop to make tablets of forms when I sold cars. I'd print out 25-50, put a thicker backer board behind them then run thin coat of Goop on top edge to keep them together. Helped me stay organized and look more professional.
your videos mean the world to me i think i have been through them all. i might not even do these kind of things but to see it done gives me a better understanding of how i can do my own projects. i wish there was a better way to thank you.
Great tip. Thank you! Apple charging cords are good for fraying under strain right at the connector. Bet this would work well. Probably better for holding wire bundles inside electronics than hot glue as well.
Yes I use it everywhere on industrial cable connections. Even an extremely harsh climate and conditions. I used to buy a lot of heat shrink tubing that had glue on the inside of it. When you heat up the heat shrink tubing the glue activates. But In cases where I don’t have the right size heat shrink glue tubing… I use the goop on the cable or inside the tubing first, put it over my wire/cable/hose and then heat shrink it… And now you have a waterproof covering/joint that’s more flexible and permanent. And yes as you mentioned it Works wonderful for charging cables… especially if you put a bit of heat shrink tubing over it before it cures. I use it in all sorts of industrial applications and test equipment. About half of my business revolves around restoring and recalibrating all types of industrial equipment and test gear. Mostly component level PCB repair with a bit of metrology sprinkled in. Learning how to use adhesive’s and other materials really makes a huge difference!! I’m guessing goop is the same as e6000?
I agree Robrenz, just like gasoline is extremely dangerous, but we can buy it on just about every street corner any day of the week. Toluene is great stuff as long as you handle it safely. Just like a loaded pistol, it's only dangerous when you don't pay attention to what you're doing with it. Anyway, your video was terrific and I have benefited greatly from your knowledge and information. Thank you again for this video!
I did not know that goop dissolved in toluene. Have used a similar idea in the past, Elastosil a07 from Wacker disolved in toulene. I used it on some medical EMG electrodes as efficient moisture protection somewhat similar to what You show, and also as a soft polymer on FSR force sensors. It is very hydrophobic, but a silicone so it is not always suitable. Also I suspect the goop stuff is more wear resistant. Will certainly try it, thanks for the tip!
This is SUPER useful thank you so much!! Gonna pick up some Toluene TODAY and also fantastic tip to know the “home and garden” version is UV resistant!! Such a wealth of information, thank you!!
Live in Canada and have never seen "Lawn and Garden" but we do have the Marine version which is also UV resistant. Also don't have toluene here. That sucks.
Neat trick to add to my bag of tricks. Recently, I have been using acetone in 2-3 sec baths to give my 3D printed parts a glossy injection molded look. I have also used an acetone vapor chamber for more delicate parts. May do a video on a few of these methods plus some other nifty 3D parts finishing techniques. Nice video though, you are an artist!
Both are perchloroethylene-based. E6000 is odorless, nonflammable & dries clear. Shoe Goo uses toluene & naphtha (like flammable oil-based coatings which should be ventilated in confined areas) & dries amber. The Shoe Goo may adhere better because of more difficult-to-use refined solvents. Trades tensile
I drilled out the tabasco cap to the diameter of the neck of a polyethylene squeeze bottle nozzle neck. Then cut the flange of the nozzle to fit the ID of the tabasco cap. So the flange acted as the seal on the bottle. but a standard polyethylene squeeze bottle will work just as well.
The parent company is Eclectic which markets this product under different names the E6000 adhesive is the industrial product which provides a very good dielectric insulation values.
Just a point of information, I contacted Eclectic Products some time ago and asked what formulation i.e. Plumbers Goop, Shoe Goop, Automotive Goop, etc. would be best for my application. I was advised that they were all the same including their E6000 product. I suppose they sell the same product with different labeling to demonstrate the broad application of the product. The E6000 is usually the cheapest product. Since I contacted them they have added the UV resistant formulation. The E6000 is available in UV and regular formulations.
I too contacted Eclectic (in 2019) and although the products seem identical they apparently do have different characteristics and the TDS info supports this. I wanted E6800 with UV protection but can't find it anywhere. I was told Goop II Max UV is almost identical accept it's high temp rating is slightly lower and is not recommended for painting over. No problem for my needs. If you can't find the lawn and garden version Robrenz used in this video then I suggest Goop II Max UV... readily available at Walmart and was cheap.
Thanks Michael, Goop would not be a good pick for that. I suggest looking for a liquid gas tank sealant. Thanks for commenting and watching! ATB, Robin
I just used some shoe goo on a pair of boots and it did not turn out well. I wish I would have seen this video a month ago! I learn something new everyday.
Goop is amazing and now you are to ... im gonna use this trick to build my electrolyzer cell for a torch . one time i filled a plastic turkey injector with toluene and i turned around to walk across the room and looked down and notice my syringe was melting fast ....its was a thick clear plastic not a thin syringe
I used this stuff to fix a tear in a convertible roof. It doesn't look too good. Will he tolulean stuff get rid of it even if its dry? Also where do u get the tolulean
is there a particular kind of bristle you need to use on an application brush when applying toluene-thinned goop? can you use toluene to clean that brush after using it?
This is the most useful thing I've learned this month, thanks. Do you know how Toluene would affect lexan? I use goop to coat lexan RC car bodies, and thinning it like this would be nice.
Spoiler alert - Toluene ruins lexan. Odd that normal shoe goo doesn't bother lexan, but if you think it to honey consistency with Toluene, it melts the lexan by the next morning and makes a mess of things.
There are a number of solvents that soften Goop, per their data sheets There are a number of UV resistant types like Marine and RV but the only one that they do not suggest painting for additional UV protection is Goop Max II, which they claim to be able to handle extreme temperature and UV. Their E6000 series is similar to Goop. A look at their technical data sheets show some Goops are identical and some are a little different. They use a number of solvents. The furniture goop has higher viscosity so it will stay on vertical surfaces. A little research or a phone call to them can help sort them out. The poor self leveling in the video can often be solved without solvent. It will flow out very slowly before it sets so orient the part so gravity makes it go where you want it to
Your videos never cease to make me laugh. It is the massive attention to detail even in the things that don't really need it. I just love watching people who are used to doing everything with extreme precision do things that don't require that level of precision. Making the taper bored tool holders was the ultimate in this type of unnecessary, but awesome, precision.
i hate to be that guy, but gramer is so impoten to me i have to point out in the annotation you say to get on you skin. i cant believe i noticed it seeeing as i cant reed but there ya go thanks for sharing
I've tried everything I could think of to thin this stuff, and none of them worked. Closest I came was laquer thinner - kiiiinnduv werkt.... Uh ... but it also kind of started dissolving the shoe I was trying to fix ... Lol. Great trade secret ... Thanks!
I'm not an expert, but I've tried xylene and it also seems to thin Shoe Goo. I'll try the toluene. These solvents are toxic and should be used with good ventilation. I prefer working in the garage or with moving air circulation. An N95 mask won't filter them out. Thanks for the great demo.
Wish I had known about thinning with Toluene for the 30+ years that I've been using Goop.
I have repaired and adhered things that with goop that otherwise could not have been repaired or adhered. When my son was serving in the Peace Corps in a small Kenyan village he phoned me and said, "Dad they don't sell Goop here and the house they assigned us needs numerous fixes. Please mail me a couple of tubs as soon as possible."
Thanks for the great info.
I used Goop to make tablets of forms when I sold cars. I'd print out 25-50, put a thicker backer board behind them then run thin coat of Goop on top edge to keep them together. Helped me stay organized and look more professional.
Nice!
Wow, that is really smart! I will keep that trick in mind.
your videos mean the world to me i think i have been through them all. i might not even do these kind of things but to see it done gives me a better understanding of how i can do my own projects. i wish there was a better way to thank you.
Thanks Mar, it is nice to hear that the videos are actually usefull. Thanks for commenting and watching!
ATB, Robin
Great tip. Thank you! Apple charging cords are good for fraying under strain right at the connector. Bet this would work well. Probably better for holding wire bundles inside electronics than hot glue as well.
Yes I use it everywhere on industrial cable connections. Even an extremely harsh climate and conditions. I used to buy a lot of heat shrink tubing that had glue on the inside of it. When you heat up the heat shrink tubing the glue activates. But In cases where I don’t have the right size heat shrink glue tubing… I use the goop on the cable or inside the tubing first, put it over my wire/cable/hose and then heat shrink it… And now you have a waterproof covering/joint that’s more flexible and permanent.
And yes as you mentioned it Works wonderful for charging cables… especially if you put a bit of heat shrink tubing over it before it cures.
I use it in all sorts of industrial applications and test equipment. About half of my business revolves around restoring and recalibrating all types of industrial equipment and test gear. Mostly component level PCB repair with a bit of metrology sprinkled in. Learning how to use
adhesive’s and other materials really makes a huge difference!!
I’m guessing goop is the same as e6000?
@@hullinstruments I believe it is the exact same as e6000, tho I am curious if it has the UV resistance of the “home n garden” version shown here
@@TylrVncnt Look for the sister product E-6800. Goop automotive and marine varieties also claim U/V resistance.
I agree Robrenz, just like gasoline is extremely dangerous, but we can buy it on just about every street corner any day of the week. Toluene is great stuff as long as you handle it safely. Just like a loaded pistol, it's only dangerous when you don't pay attention to what you're doing with it. Anyway, your video was terrific and I have benefited greatly from your knowledge and information. Thank you again for this video!
I did not know that goop dissolved in toluene. Have used a similar idea in the past, Elastosil a07 from Wacker disolved in toulene. I used it on some medical EMG electrodes as efficient moisture protection somewhat similar to what You show, and also as a soft polymer on FSR force sensors. It is very hydrophobic, but a silicone so it is not always suitable. Also I suspect the goop stuff is more wear resistant. Will certainly try it, thanks for the tip!
Love this video. I have used GooGone (because I had it on-hand) instead of Toluene, and it seems to work well.
11 years, and I'm just learning this? Amazing sir, absolute fantastic information.
This is SUPER useful thank you so much!! Gonna pick up some Toluene TODAY and also fantastic tip to know the “home and garden” version is UV resistant!! Such a wealth of information, thank you!!
Live in Canada and have never seen "Lawn and Garden" but we do have the Marine version which is also UV resistant. Also don't have toluene here. That sucks.
Neat trick to add to my bag of tricks. Recently, I have been using acetone in 2-3 sec baths to give my 3D printed parts a glossy injection molded look. I have also used an acetone vapor chamber for more delicate parts. May do a video on a few of these methods plus some other nifty 3D parts finishing techniques. Nice video though, you are an artist!
Thanks Eric, I look forward to the videos.
Thankas a million. Where have you been all my life!
Both are perchloroethylene-based. E6000 is odorless, nonflammable & dries clear. Shoe Goo uses toluene & naphtha (like flammable oil-based coatings which should be ventilated in confined areas) & dries amber. The Shoe Goo may adhere better because of more difficult-to-use refined solvents. Trades tensile
I drilled out the tabasco cap to the diameter of the neck of a polyethylene squeeze bottle nozzle neck. Then cut the flange of the nozzle to fit the ID of the tabasco cap. So the flange acted as the seal on the bottle. but a standard polyethylene squeeze bottle will work just as well.
Fantastic tip. An extremely nice tool to have in my bag of tricks. Thanks and take care
That was VERY helpful!! Thanks for producing and posting.
The parent company is Eclectic which markets this product under different names the E6000 adhesive is the industrial product which provides a very good dielectric insulation values.
Just a point of information, I contacted Eclectic Products some time ago and asked what formulation i.e. Plumbers Goop, Shoe Goop, Automotive Goop, etc. would be best for my application. I was advised that they were all the same including their E6000 product. I suppose they sell the same product with different labeling to demonstrate the broad application of the product. The E6000 is usually the cheapest product. Since I contacted them they have added the UV resistant formulation. The E6000 is available in UV and regular formulations.
I believe the marine grade goop I used in the video is UV formulation
I too contacted Eclectic (in 2019) and although the products seem identical they apparently do have different characteristics and the TDS info supports this. I wanted E6800 with UV protection but can't find it anywhere. I was told Goop II Max UV is almost identical accept it's high temp rating is slightly lower and is not recommended for painting over. No problem for my needs.
If you can't find the lawn and garden version Robrenz used in this video then I suggest Goop II Max UV... readily available at Walmart and was cheap.
I have been using shoe goo for the past 50 years and didn't know about toluene. Thank you.
Great info. I like your thorough explanations. Do you think that this would be able to seal a gas gauge float?
Thanks Michael, Goop would not be a good pick for that. I suggest looking for a liquid gas tank sealant. Thanks for commenting and watching!
ATB, Robin
I just used some shoe goo on a pair of boots and it did not turn out well. I wish I would have seen this video a month ago! I learn something new everyday.
Goop is amazing and now you are to ... im gonna use this trick to build my electrolyzer cell for a torch . one time i filled a plastic turkey injector with toluene and i turned around to walk across the room and looked down and notice my syringe was melting fast ....its was a thick clear plastic not a thin syringe
Thanks, and thanks for watching and commenting.
I love this stuff and now i'm going to like it even more..Thanks to your tip on Toluene
You are welcome and thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank you for your reply. I am thinking this may be a nice way of water proofing the electrics on my RC Car (Servo ,ESC and Receiver).
The plumber Goop works well as a fabric adhesive.
Unintentionally!
@@mdwdirect I use it to repair blue jeans using patches cut from other pairs of jeans. It's like sewing for men with no skills or patience.
Since it’s also paintable I’m going to try to repair my scuffed aluminum wheels. See how it works, I assume it will be a success. Awesome stuff
Ughhh at that point just use Bondo...
Hi Rob, I was sent here by Tom, great stuff! Thanks! 😃👍
Thanks ScoutCrafter, and thanks for commenting and watching!
ATB, Robin
this is really cool. thanks for sharing! can you spray this stuff when thinned down?
probably but it would take a lot of layers to get any thickness.
If you want a sprayable adhesive look into HH-66 Vinyl Cement. It seems to work as well as Goop and is available in up to 1 gallon cans.
The Marine version is also UV resistant.
Where did you acquire the pure toluene? Are you just using lacquer thinner?, cause I know it has a lot of toluene in it. Good info thanx.
Straight Toluene is available in most all US paint and hardware stores. Thanks for commenting and watching!
ATB, Robin
Goop is not a urethane adhesive. It is a styrene-butadiene adhesive.
What a great tip. Thanks.
How can you look at the label on the toluene bottle and still mispronounce the word with an extra "L" that's not there? Curious.
Great video, I will use this. Thanks.
I used this stuff to fix a tear in a convertible roof. It doesn't look too good. Will he tolulean stuff get rid of it even if its dry? Also where do u get the tolulean
Yes it will dissolve dry goop. Toluene is available in any hardware/paint store in the US.
Can't find this stuff, at least by the name "toluene." Looked Lowes and Home Depot. Is it considered paint thinner, or lacquer thinner, or what?
They used to carry it but no more. It is Toluene, there is no other name
what is this called in Europa/Germany? Anyone knows?
Toluol
Gibts aber nirgends zu kaufen, Apotheken geben es aufgrund der Gesundheitsgefahr ungern heraus. Im Netz bestellen scheint der beste Weg zu sein
Thanks, if I could I would give 2 thumbs UP
Love this glue and use it ALOT
Wonder if I could use xylene in place of toulene? Can't find straight toulene anywhere.
Yes
That was a great video, thank you for the tips!
is there a particular kind of bristle you need to use on an application brush when applying toluene-thinned goop? can you use toluene to clean that brush after using it?
No and Yes
Natural bristle brushes wouldnt get the heal to wet... as an artist we used for harsh chemicals.
This is the most useful thing I've learned this month, thanks. Do you know how Toluene would affect lexan? I use goop to coat lexan RC car bodies, and thinning it like this would be nice.
Spoiler alert - Toluene ruins lexan. Odd that normal shoe goo doesn't bother lexan, but if you think it to honey consistency with Toluene, it melts the lexan by the next morning and makes a mess of things.
Great video! Does anyone know if Toluene is safe on tent fabrics (nylon/polyester)?
test patch.
Thanks for the info, very helpful.
As far as I know it is some form of urethane and it is liquifed with Toluene
Nice Video. Can you tell me the name of the active ingredient in goop? I am in Australia and i am sure it is available here under another name.
Applying LP you paint paint
what about thinning it out with acetone instead? any adverse effects? change in properties?
Acetone will not dissolve or thin the goop. Toluene will dissolve completely cured goop
Great video! Thank you. Who are the 7 people who dislike this? Why?
Good question!
Hey bud, will hepathane work as well?
No clue
The Goop data sheets list the solvents that disolve or soften goop.
There are a number of solvents that soften Goop, per their data sheets There are a number of UV resistant types like Marine and RV but the only one that they do not suggest painting for additional UV protection is Goop Max II, which they claim to be able to handle extreme temperature and UV.
Their E6000 series is similar to Goop. A look at their technical data sheets show some Goops are identical and some are a little different. They use a number of solvents. The furniture goop has higher viscosity so it will stay on vertical surfaces. A little research or a phone call to them can help sort them out. The poor self leveling in the video can often be solved without solvent. It will flow out very slowly before it sets so orient the part so gravity makes it go where you want it to
Hi mate. Absolutely lovely, and now you are going to distribute Goop to the rest of the world, are you? ; )
Thanks again Marcel, no distribution plans ahead ; )
does anyone know if this is the same as lexel?
I don't know.
Handy trick.
Your videos never cease to make me laugh. It is the massive attention to detail even in the things that don't really need it. I just love watching people who are used to doing everything with extreme precision do things that don't require that level of precision. Making the taper bored tool holders was the ultimate in this type of unnecessary, but awesome, precision.
Thanks warpigs330, glad I can provide some comic relief in my videos! Thanks for commenting and watching.
ATB, Robin
Here's some more information about Toluene: www.osha.gov/SLTC/toluene/health_hazards.html
Nice!
Yinz from the ‘Burgh?
?
Your accent sounds (a bit) like someone from Pittsburgh.
@@peacefrog0521 Close, Chester county for the majority of my life and now Lancaster county.
age-old lesson, thin your paints.
i hate to be that guy, but gramer is so impoten to me i have to point out in the annotation you say to get on you skin. i cant believe i noticed it seeeing as i cant reed but there ya go thanks for sharing
Hah, I see what you did ... or were they all actual mistakes?
I finaly checked that out and fixed it. It now says "do NOT get on your skin" Thanks for pointing it out and thanks for watching and commenting!
its to late for me just save your self and say kind things about me when they ask
I've tried everything I could think of to thin this stuff, and none of them worked. Closest I came was laquer thinner - kiiiinnduv werkt.... Uh ... but it also kind of started dissolving the shoe I was trying to fix ... Lol. Great trade secret ... Thanks!
I'm not an expert, but I've tried xylene and it also seems to thin Shoe Goo. I'll try the toluene. These solvents are toxic and should be used with good ventilation. I prefer working in the garage or with moving air circulation. An N95 mask won't filter them out. Thanks for the great demo.
You just need to get it the hell away, 800 cubic meter per hour exhaust fan set up for my fume cupboard.