Instead of having Rey be a Palpatine, we get Ben do a shrug like his dad. When they turn to face Palpatine imagine we get to see Rey go into an Obi Wan Kenobi stance with the two wingers out. Ugh. So much potential.
Lets take a moment to appreciate the paraells between Ben Solo and his father. They both shoot a trooper over the shoulder without looking. And both shrug in the face of danger all cocky like. I love it.
Adam Driver did a really good job capturing that patented "Solo cockiness" that makes the family so much fun. I think he would've made a really good Jacen Solo.
Adam Driver portrays Ben pretty much flawlessly, he is so clearly the son of Han, his gestures, movement, and attitude are spot on. Wish they didnt kill off the one promising thing for this trilogy.
One thing about this scene I love that many don't notice is that Ben Solo is fighting so much more clearly and with more finess because he's no longer being held back by the conflict. He's finally free of his pain. The Sith always talked about having their chains broken by the only chains Kylo ever broke were the one's the Sith used to hold him down
@@JonO387 What needs explaining? That Adam is a seriously good actor? Or the script he got for Kylo was utter garbage, and could have been *so* much more?
@@exodustimes4266 Agreed, or at least consulted with the George. Problem is, these ultra-woke folk are so arrogant in their execution of their ideals that it overshadows everything else. The actual story and original context is irrelevant to them.
The breath that Ben takes at 4:35 shows he is calming his emotions during the fight, before his anger would take over. Sad we didn't get to see more of his turn to the light.
Wish he was the one who defeated Palpatine and finishing what his grandfather ended for good this time. He's the Skywalker we've been looking for but didn't deserve. Feels a bit tragic someone with the blood of Palpatine and heir to the throne of the Sith was the one to do it. Rey should've been the one Palpatine threw at the void wherever Ben was thrown into.
This trilogy was lucky to be blessed with Adam Driver. He carries the whole thing on his back. I love the difference in his body language and facial expressions as Ben Solo compared to Kylo Ren. He just seems so much more free and considerate. It's because he is focused on his goal - to be at Rey's side.
The way Bens style totally changed from when he was Kylo. As Kylo he struck with anger and rushed blows. As ben, he swings it around, just like his grandfather.
Yeah, but its pretty stupid they killed him. His redemption arc isnt very satisfying because this man has done some truly hideous shit. They shouldve made him live and make him suffer the consequences of his actions. Like they couldve shown him burying the lightsabers of his family, redeeming the skywalker legacy, and building a new Jedi Order
Jovalin he just shouldn’t have waited until the last movie of this trilogy to turn good. Imagine if he had switched to the good side in episode 8, then both he and Rey could have had all of episodes 9 to defeat the dark side.
@Dragongamer 7 It was on the Death Star remains during his fight with Rey. He halted, having heard Leia's voice then Rey stabbed him. Then they both felt the Force shudder and they both knew Leia was gone. So, it was Rey's last meeting with him before this part.
Ben embraces Skywalker and solo Solo: running around one-shoting troopers to save his friends Skywalker: sprinting into battle with little to no plan to help his friends
That was fear. They were his personal guard when he was Kylo Ren, and knew what he could do with a lightsaber. They showed him respect at the beginning of the fight when he was unarmed, disgust when they were giving him the beating and fear when they realised that their former boss had a weapon that he was highly skilled at using, and a reason to fight them until one side was dead.
I know that people don’t like the fact that “ow” is Ben’s only line. But it is kind of cool to hear his voice, especially because he sounds like Han Solo. He definitely does not sound like Kylo. Would Kylo even say “ow”??
Rubberhand that's just not true. KK had litteraly barely anything to do with this movie. Bob Iger got JJ in behind her back and then JJ refused to work with the Lucasfilm Storygroup. We know from Freddie Prinze JR that Dave Filloni is the one who got most of the jedi voice's into that scene. I don't like KK but fs i can admit when something wasn't her fault
@@jackcampbell7898 everything I said has been confirmed. KK is the reason most of the movie had to be reshoot because she didn't agree with the direction the original script was going to take.
niceviewer ugh. Okay. He said Ow, because he does not have his hate to stop the pain from being so potent. So say this then, if chewie shot Ben with his bowcaster at this very second, Ben would more than likely die. As Star Wars is, hate is a hard thing to kill. Like how Anakin lost three limbs and burned annnd crawled up a small hill of burnt ash. He didn’t die because of his hate.
Honestly the shot I loved was when she is about to strike palpatine and then she sees Ben. The acting so good u see the slight change in her demeanor from uncertainty and fear to hope. And Ben’s smile of encouragement
@@simaopinto8521 On the fight on the ship in rise of the skywalker, Kyli had his lightsaber above his head to strike (Leaving his full open sides) and REY AIMED FOR HIS LIGHTSABER, only 0.1% of the star wars community likes rey, and thats generous. Even Mark Hamill (actor of luke) hates rey proof everywhere just search it.
No, that would have been a terrible end for Rey, whose establishing character moment is that she won't let BB8 be hurt even though she's only just met him. It would have just been Daenerys and the bells again. Besides which, Ben rose as a Skywalker when he chose to fight Palpatine, and Rey is a real Skywalker because Luke, Leia and Han were like family to her.
I really enjoyed this scene. I liked that we got to spend a couple minutes with Han and Leia's son. Those were our two characters! We watched them almost die in the original trilogy so many times, but here is the proof that they won and had enough peace and time to start a family! He's a little awkward, a little cocky, a bit haunted, but utterly unapologetic and very very brave. Everything a Solo/Skywalker needed to be.
I like how he scored the Force leap at 4:41 too, reminds me of Hook haha, makes Ben feel like Peter Pan. Brings out his youthful and lighter rebellious spirit.
@@joeisnothome Nah it's still in minor, it's just decorated differently, starting with the original instrumentation, then repeated on strings and woodwinds for a less villainous sound
1:49 I actually like that shot. A TIE Fighter and an X-Wing parked up next to each other, a sight I don't think we've ever seen. Old enemies with serious history becoming allies. The X-Wing is Luke's, and the TIE is from the Death Star II wreckage.
It has been both Rey and Ben's trilogy. I'm referring to Rian Johnson who said that both Rey and Ben are two halves of the protagonist. Made sense since TFA opens with Kylo Ren.
@@hezomelo956 nothing wrong with a redemption story, happened with Darth Vader in the end, the major problem with the new trilogy is the writing, the second film rail roaded the trilogy so hard that the third films pandering (even if this is kinda what they always intended) was not only lost, but it wasn't set up all that well (so much of what happens in this film, force fed to you in that film itself, rather than having well thought out plot points dropped in previous films that were properly built upon). This film is the very definition of damage control. Why Kathleen Kennedy still has a job at Disney, after fucking up a multi billion dollar franchise that could have made wayyyyyy more money for Disney, boggles the mind.
I don't wanna sound like a 60 year old boomer but Rey isn't skilled in anything tbh. She's a Mary sue who is blessed by Disney to have broken amounts of strength without any training/ experience. On the other hand, it makes sense for Kylo to be skilled since he's literally the descendant of the Skywalker bloodline + he has done training before as well. I would say that Kylo >> in terms of both force and actual duelling.
I have a few counter arguments here. 1. Rey IS somewhat trained in the force. Not only does she naturally have a strong bloodline for starters but she has read the jedi book and been trained a by Leia off screen in matters of the Force itself. However Leia could NOT provide Jedi combat training. Only force related things which is why she's so much better at the Force part than combat. 2. A mary sue is "a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses." Rey consistently shows weakness. Even as the main protagonist she has found herself both captured and defeated countless times. She lost her 1v1 vs Kylo and failed to protect Finn the first time around. She would have been in trouble with Snoke if not for Ben. She would have been hunted by Kylo successfully if not for Lukes sacrifice. She would have lost the second duel vs Ben had Leia not distracted him. And she would of fulfilled the emperors plans if Ben had not been there. She consistently displayed a lack of fighting skill that was force driven but still unpolished compared to people like Kylo/Ben on screen. And she never pulled off any crazy force feats like Leia or Luke either. Explain to me in detail her "broken amount of strength". Because from where I stand most force sensitive people can at the very least without training use it to run from people or defend themselves in a retreating manner to which she did often at first prior to meeting Leia. If how she acted makes her a mary sue then by default any force sensitive person who uses the force to accomplish any task without training is a mary sue. Which would be a dumb claim.
@@MilkshakeGuruTTV adding on to this, the fight between her and Ben on the Death Star wreckage clearly showcases who the superior duellist is. For the first little bit, Ben doesn’t even have his lightsaber drawn; he’s essentially just toying with Rey. He continues to do so until Leia’s death breaks his concentration. Likewise, Rey’s strength with the Force is showcased here. A trooper fires a shot at her; she uses the Force to hit him with it, rip it out, and kill a second trooper. Her entire form is based on constantly using the Force.
@@Judge-1964 Tbh she will probably have proper saber training post her initial trilogy. I saw the rumor they want her back in a teacher like role. Which makes sense givin her last ending. She's going to have to speak to a lot of ghosts and read a lot of books to train herself but it's possible lol.
@@vintagescvrlet Reminded me of Padme dying. She's medically fine but just seemed to keel over. Fanon for years has been that her life force was used to save Anakin as he became Vader.
I don’t think people realize is how similar Ben is to his father. Like okay with a light saber he is his grandfather’s grandchild but Han is all over him the shooting behind his back without looking and the little movement he does with his arms after he brings out the light saber out know where is great.
This is my favorite video rn!! I love how Ben comes to help Rey when she is all alone in the darkest place she's ever been and he ultimately saves her life This is just awesome!!
I love how Ben has Both His dads and Grandpas fighting style and personality the no look blaster shot defo Solo and the way he used the lightsaber was so reminiscing of Anakin but still had some hints of kylo in it but thats just his style and i find it fitting he used Anakin's saber too great way to show he has been redeemed
3 best scenes from each movie (IMO) - Ben betraying and killing Han - Ben’s “duel” with Luke - this scene Notice how Ben is in all of them and not Rey lol
He fights so much better & cleaner as a Jedi. Almost like when he was Kylo Ren he wasn’t just fighting his enemy in combat but also himself. Like it literally looks that way in comparing the two
3:42 - you can see how stiff and afraid Rey is by looking at her neck, as soon as she sees Ben you literally see her entire neck relax...just thought that was a nice detail.
One thing we never got to see is an antagonist having a redemption arc and then living with the consequences of their actions, Ben should have lived, would have been fascinating
or a better ending is Ben lives, but they both no Ben can never be redeemed by others he caused so much harm too , so he goes off to live in exile but Rey goes with him because she spent her entire existence trying to find her place in the universe waiting for her family to return so instead she goes to start her own. then the whole "Rey Skywalker' thing makes at least some sense since she is going to marry someone who actually has skywalker blood in him. the movie would end with them going to tatooine burying the sabers then they both look into the twinsunset on tatooine with john williams score it wouldnt have fixed the sequels but it wouldve at least been a satisfying ending rather than a bittersweet one
I think I would’ve been interesting and better if it ended before Ben transferred life into Rey. She avenged her parents and killed off the palpatine bloodline (sacrificing herself in the process).
@@greenkidd529 the more i look at the sequels. The more i realize that even if they're very flawed. They are still somewhat enjoyable (effects, scenery, details)
@@sarag6251 They have their own partners everybody knows that, but for actors its importat to have chemistry and they have chemistry and that is the most important thing in a movie. Look at Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen in the prequels, they had zero chemistry together, even they dated in real but the chemistry isnt there.
Better Ending: Rey and Ben defeat Palpatine, together. Rey wants Ben to join her to rebuild the Jedi but Ben fears that the darkness still out there in the Universe and in him, leaves to atone for his sins by seeking out and destroying that darkness using their own dark powers against them as the first "Grey" Jedi since Mace Windu. Hell, there could have been another trilogy or maybe even a television miniseries/series. A merciless Ben Solo protecting the Light with the Darkness within as he struggles to prove to himself that he was indeed worthy of redemption. Would have been pure gold IMHO.
make him go to ach to probably talk to his anceators there rey insisting he kept his grandfathers lightsaber as a reminder of the good man his grandfather was and how many lives he saved with that weapon. also would be a nice touch to rey saying you were right back then. this lightsaber belongs to you.
Even though they get man handled right after, the shot of them raising The skywalker saber and Lea’s together makes me happy. Say what you will about the trilogy, but Rey and Bens relationship was definitely the best part
2:46 it should have been "We stand behind you boss, to the end." the Knights of Ren vs Palpatine's Royal Guards. Would have been a great action sequence and a test to true loyalty.
The knights of ten were so much waste of potential, we never had the opportunity to see them as a full menace. Aside from that, didn’t they were also students from Luke? And have lightsabers or use the force?
@@ricksterdrummer2170 So sad Rian Johnson went to change things, he is a good director though but Disney didn't even plan what to do with the characters. What a mess.
Cronic nah, jedi anakin (young vader) is not as good as Jedi Ben overall, sure in terms of sheer force and technique, anakin is way better, but anakin never masted a cool head, as obi-wan have proved a clear head during battle is crucial, but I don’t think anakin ever went into a battle with the clearest mind as he was constantly troubled by the dark side from his trauma and hatred, partly contributed to the fact that he was not a great Jedi to begin with, Jedi ben however, corrected by Han and leia, have solid aim, he knew exactly what he needs to do. Mature Vader however, it’s a completely different story, with his suit made to save him as quick as possible(not for combat, nor mobility, nor comfort), his battle ability were dramatically decreased due to the weight of the suit at the beginning, but because of that and the constant pain the suit brought, it allowed his dark force ability to grow even stronger, hence makes up the lost in fast hand to hand combat. And obviously Vader have a cool head until his son show up, as he thought he got nothing more to lose With mature Vader, all the people in that building could be choked to death in a matter of second
@@Underpowered3719 you mean Ben Solo oh losses his temper, got hurt by a non Jedi with a light saber and lost to a person who never trained at all the first time the fight. That Ben Solo? Is clear headed. He has mommy and daddy issues. to sum it up, he lost a fight to someone who never trained, he never won a fight, he was hurt by someone who is not even force sensitive. He got his ass kicked by the knights of ren who are not force sensitive until magic gave him a saber. He is so weak he cant use the force to beat six none fore sensitives, got hut in a saber battle witn someone who not force sensitive or trained, lost every battle? That is the guy you think can beat Young Anakin or Vader. LOLOLOL thanks for that laugh.
Cronic dude he only lost because he got shot by a fucking crossbow that’ll kill anyone, but he just walked it off, he killed Han which struck an emotional pain in him, and still chased finn and Rey, beating finn, but he continued to fight Rey. After all, she is a Palpatine
Would’ve been cooler if the knights only answered to Ben, so when they walked out towards ben, one of them could’ve said something like “We follow you, Ren.” Then Palpatine ends up killing all of them, one by one, so that only Ben remains.
Indeed, at that moment Ben viewed them as his faithful brothers in arms since he became their master. The knights were hyped for an epic battle we never got to see. The knights versus Palp' guards and at the end using all of their power against Palps who kills them one by one would be more fitting I believe
The bond between Rey and Kylo really is the heart and soul of this trilogy. Despite all of the directorial disagreements and narrative flaws, this is the one element that remains strong throughout. Almost all of the credit goes to the actors.
Yup. I hated many things about this trilogy...especially the way they treated Luke. The way they wasted Fynn, Poe, and Rose's character potentials. Even the way they handled Leia at times was awkward. But the last remnant of Star Wars's heart survived within Rey and Ben. They were the only thing about this trilogy that felt like Star Wars. Star Wars is about family, love, light, dark, and spirituality. All of these things can be found within these two characters. Is it a bit clunky at times? Sure. But regardless of how I feel about the rest of the trilogy, the bond between these two allows me to think a little more fondly of the Sequels.
Indeed. It is beautiful. I also feel Ben will return. They're not going to waste awesome like this and....I confess....they make both a cute and badass Battle-Couple. --- I realize that Ben had to die (temporarily) if you consider all the crap he pulled as Kylo. However, he can still return. He wasn't even among the Force Ghosts in the end and Exegol is a HUGE World Between Worlds portal. --- Nope; He's in the WBW and I have a hunch that he will emerge out of the Force Cave on Ach-To. I think Rey went straight to Ach-To after the last scene on Tatooine, will enter the cave, Ben comes out of that mirror-wall and the two start the new successor to The Jedi Order. Finn will probably be one of their first students.
At 4:57 it's crazy how much Ben Solo looks like Anakin. Also, I really wish Rey would have been a Kenobi. Imagine: A Kenobi and a Skywalker both standing together to finally defeat the very evil that tore their families apart. Oh well :(
If Ben was the main character at the end of this trilogy he truly would’ve been the rise of Skywalker and has his own cool lightsaber at the end that wasn’t red
He's a Solo though. It would make no sense for him to take the skywalker name after the episode already showed him loving his father. It is rather odd Rey went with skywalker though as she was closer to both Han and Ben, both Solo's, and Leia, who still answers to Organa. I understand it's for the sake of closure on the skywalker saga. But rey taking on the name Solo would have made most sense, followed by Organa. Or just keeping Palpatine, and turning it into a name of light and inspiration. An amazing final mockery of the last sith.
The moment they reconnect through the force dyad and you see the relief and disbelief in her face as she looks at him. You could tell she was scared. Afraid and alone. But when she saw him the look she gave him was so soft. Loving. She feels safe. Like it’ll all be okay. He came all this way for her. To save her. Even if he knew they wouldn’t live through this at least they’d be together. At least he could spend his final moments with her, and her knowing she was right about him. Two that are one. You know he wish he would’ve made this choice to be with her sooner.
This is exactly it! I don’t know why people were so against them as a pairing romantically or not. Their chemistry was amazing. Everybody who said this pairing was out of place clearly hasn’t got any attention to detail their connection was so clear in the two films before this one. I wasn’t shocked at all by the kiss at the end either
I don’t like how people hate on this movie… it may not be the best, but it certainly had its moments. This scene went from possibly the end of the resistance and the eternal reign of the dark side, to Kyle Ren going “well, now I have my lightsaber, and the dark side is going down”!!!!! Awesome
There are scenes that were good But Ben & Rey should have fought Palpatine together also Ben should have lived There are alot of other things that I hate but Ben's death is just the final nail in the coffin And ofcourse killing all the stormtroopers 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
5:10-That image of Rey and Ben standing side by side holding Luke's/Anakin's and Leia's respective lightsabers--man, that always makes me smile. Been really deserved to hold that legendary lightsaber. For real this time.
@@gzz8551 Okay, for your information, first of all, I'm NOT 12, I'm 19. Second, of course I like this movie; I'm not one to criticize on it. And third, you need to watch your mouth or else you'll say something that you'll regret later on in life.
I didn't particularly enjoy this movie but Adam Driver's scenes allowed me to leave the theatre without feeling as though I had completely wasted my time.
Memetastic Vondank no there is not since everyone here knows the truth the movie really was great because of Ben/Kylo indeed the story was very predictable and somtimes a bit cringy but other then that I enjoyed it
Me duele volver a ver esta escena. Pensar que si lo dejaban vivo, ahora estariamos soñando de otra manera. 😢 Necesitaba ese tipo de redención. El sacrificio ya lo habian realizado otros, él merecía vivir.
@@meyatetana2973 I always wondered why are the Knights of Ren weapon Blunt? they could have easily killed him before he got the lightsaber if their weapon had edges.
They still did some damage at 3:10. Even though it was pretty trash it wasn't for nothing since he does still have the scars and scratches on his face from their weapons during his death
The music is just incredible. The way John Williams changed the "Bad Guy" Kylo theme into the soaring, heroic "good guy" Ben Solo theme is so simple and subtle, but so impactful. I miss Ben Solo and always will - can't wait for him to come back!
Things everybody can love about this movie: - Adam Driver (people hate these movies say Kylo Ren was their favorite) - Ian McDiarmid hamming it up as Palpatine. (people like I, who hate the idea itself still like the performance)
I know the whole idea of "redeem the bad guy and kill them off in doing so" is RotJ inspired, but 1., the action and visuals bring it to a whole new level: and 2, apart from Force Ghost we don't really see Anakin in RotJ (ultimately it was Vader saving his son), but we DO see Ben Solo in action here for the first and only time.
It was the only part of this new trilogy I even enjoyed. Finally, someone expressed something that made direct, correlated sense to the preceding cause. AND it was in character.
ben solo is so cool, i really hope he sticks around after this, maybbee have a journey of redemption alongside rey, idk, imagine they' unalive him in order to make rey a skywalker and the only skywalker at that, can you imagine that
I've fallen in love with Ben Solo's theme. If you didn't know, it's the whole theme playing since about Ben arrives on Exegol to when Ben and Rey see each other again in front of Palpatine. The theme where Ben and Rey physically stand in front of each other, which has elements of their respective themes playing, first Ben than Rey, was recently stylized by Samuel Kim. It's all very beautiful.
I love these scenes of both Rey and Ben. When they look at each other then hold up the light sabers in unison is one of my favourite scenes. Well I have a lot of favourite scenes Bens shrug/the owe/ the inhale of air etc etc etc.
One thing I just noticed : Imagine if Rey and Ben somehow split Anakin's saber hence representing the duo faces of the chosen one : Both Palpatine's side of dark turning good and Luke's side of good going evil, and fundamentally both staying on the pure side.
Adam Driver was absolutely EVERYTHING in this trilogy. I will NEVER fathom the death of the most popular character in this trilogy. Oh and don't get me started about the last Skywalker thing. I will never get over it. I want Ben Solo back STAT!
his death wasn't in vain. he wouldn't really be good as the last jedi since everyone hated him, no one would believe hes ben solo again. so it makes sense rey is the last jedi
Ben died to save his lover, which Anakin failed to do. If he didn’t bring her back to life, it would be selfishness and would make the Skywalker legacy feel incomplete. And his sacrifice marked the end for the Skywalker family as it’s now complete, which Rey brought back again as she decided to choose her own path.
Palptine being here obviously was never part of the plan and how you feel about that I think will factor alot into how you enjoy this movie. That being said though god damn Ian still knows how to make this charachter so frightning and chilling to watch. I thought he absolutely made the retconning worth it because he can make the tension rise with a snap of the fingers almost on a dime. And I have always felt that Palptine coming back actually works with what one of the sequels themes are in that if you don't learn from mistakes they'll only happen again and the past will just keep haunting you. The way he looks like he's not even alive in this movie really helped sell that to me, like he'll always be there to prey on vulnerable minds if people slip up too much.
@@orbaitv5991 well there are videos out there about iron man's character development throughout the MCU and I think him dying in endgame is a pretty legendary send-off
@@orbaitv5991 iron man had a ten year old road of character development, kylo barely reach his surface in this three movies, and thats thanks to adam driver awesome perfomance, so yeah they fuck off his storyline
I'm starting to grow a real appreciation for these actions scenes--the way Ben handles a blaster like his father and the way Rey redirects blaster fire with the force were things I didn't appreciate when watching it in the theater. Also Ben does seem like he would have made a great long term Jedi.
Rey was pulling some crazy force stuff in the fight here. She crushed a dude to the ground, was throwing people, redirecting laser bolts left and right. She was fully confident in herself and the force there. Damned impressive. And Ben had training, of course, but it was fun to see him use it as Ben, rather than Kylo. His little shrug after pulling out the saber is pure Han from episode 6 after catching the reinforcements off guard.
@@thatwasglfo I've never called her a Mary Sue. Not once. My views on this have been consistent since opening night. Others sure have done about faces.
She's a Palpatine so her Force-potential is also quite through the roof. Not saying mistakes were not made, because they were, but both of actors had great chemistry and this definetely helped, even if the overall writing for trilogy was mixed like hell.
4:15 That little shrug he does. He is definitely a Solo
TRUE HAHA
I didn't think of it that way until you mentioned it LOL. Good observation!
he is like , well... gg guys
Instead of having Rey be a Palpatine, we get Ben do a shrug like his dad. When they turn to face Palpatine imagine we get to see Rey go into an Obi Wan Kenobi stance with the two wingers out. Ugh. So much potential.
500th like!!!!!!
I like how Ben's fighting style and cockiness resembles a lot to Anakin and Han, truly a Skywalker/Solo.
he attacks *FIRST*
I wonder if this movie is on Hulu?.
@@diannemoriarty1549 Disney +
Exactly EXACTLY
And then Rey steals the skywalker name
I love that little shrug from Kylo at 4:17. That's such a Han move right there and I love it.
"Sorry, fellas. The Force, amirite?"
That's not simple shrug. That's Han Solo's shrug
True
Han actually shrugged in Return of the Jedi. Like father like son.
Lets take a moment to appreciate the paraells between Ben Solo and his father. They both shoot a trooper over the shoulder without looking. And both shrug in the face of danger all cocky like. I love it.
Adam Driver did a really good job capturing that patented "Solo cockiness" that makes the family so much fun. I think he would've made a really good Jacen Solo.
They also run into a lot of enemies at 2:40
Not to mention his “ow” when he hit the chain! Just seemed very Han of him.
True, thank you.
Just Adam Driver in general nails everything and brings every element needed.
Adam driver had to go to the best chiropractor in the galaxy after this trilogy just because of how hard he carried it.
"You underestimate my power!"
Edit: Why am I getting notifications on this comment a lot?
@Darth Cameron And on a random note, Adam Driver is a former marine.
That was awesome
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He really makes the trilogy watchable. Without him, it would be 100% worthless
4:17 that shrug alone is the most “Solo/ Skywalker” ever.
He’s Han Solo and Anakin in one, I love it!!
And the look-away shot, when he first walks up to the knights of ren.
that shrug still give me chills
@@pancakeface1038 ah yes the perfect sarcastic show off loving caring person.. im quite the same
I immediately thought of when Han shrugged at the Imperials he tricked out of coming out of the shield generator in Return Of The Jedi
Adam Driver portrays Ben pretty much flawlessly, he is so clearly the son of Han, his gestures, movement, and attitude are spot on. Wish they didnt kill off the one promising thing for this trilogy.
All 4 new leads were promising, not just one. And they fucked up all 4.
the son of Han fucking Solo and Princess Leia played by Adam Driver, one of the best actors we have, killed off without remorse
This trilogy is terrible so it ended the way it started. Badly.
@@JesusChrist2000BCYep,awful.
@@JesusChrist2000BCforce awakens wasn’t that bad to be honest, neither was last Jedi, but this movie was absolutely atrocious
One thing about this scene I love that many don't notice is that Ben Solo is fighting so much more clearly and with more finess because he's no longer being held back by the conflict. He's finally free of his pain. The Sith always talked about having their chains broken by the only chains Kylo ever broke were the one's the Sith used to hold him down
That Ben Solo shrug is the equivalent of "Sorry, mate, I've switched sides. What can you do?"
The same shrug Han gives outside the bunker on Endor xD
@@tristinnewton7371 You your daddy's son...Okay I'm going back to my gremlin cave now.
Rather "I have a lightsaber now guys, and now we can talk about unfinished buisness again". My the best scene ever
Speaking of Solo, it was better than this movie.
@@prasaite Ready? ok then.
Let's take a moment to imagine how utterly brilliant Adam Driver as Kylo could have been with a MUCH better script.
I don't get it. This is a joke, right?
@@JonO387 What needs explaining? That Adam is a seriously good actor? Or the script he got for Kylo was utter garbage, and could have been *so* much more?
Lord Demoncrusher Should’ve used Colin’s or George Lucas script instead of Kathleen
@@exodustimes4266 Agreed, or at least consulted with the George. Problem is, these ultra-woke folk are so arrogant in their execution of their ideals that it overshadows everything else. The actual story and original context is irrelevant to them.
The script was fine
I mean, compared to the prequels and maybe even the originals...
The breath that Ben takes at 4:35 shows he is calming his emotions during the fight, before his anger would take over. Sad we didn't get to see more of his turn to the light.
i think it was a sigh of relief because he took a risky move by turning his back to one of them
@@jadonh9978 it was risky because he thought they would be smarter and not hit the lightsaber but he realized damn these guys are really dumb
@@jadonh9978 I also think that too
And the Knight of Ren aren't a big of a deal they turn out to be. Sheesh..
SAME! I wish the movie had him longer in the light... but still good!
The only reason I love this scene. Is Ben gets his Grandfathers weapon. The ferociousness of him holding his ancestors light saber is unmatched.
That lightsaber.... belongs to me.
Wish he was the one who defeated Palpatine and finishing what his grandfather ended for good this time. He's the Skywalker we've been looking for but didn't deserve. Feels a bit tragic someone with the blood of Palpatine and heir to the throne of the Sith was the one to do it. Rey should've been the one Palpatine threw at the void wherever Ben was thrown into.
This trilogy was lucky to be blessed with Adam Driver. He carries the whole thing on his back.
I love the difference in his body language and facial expressions as Ben Solo compared to Kylo Ren. He just seems so much more free and considerate. It's because he is focused on his goal - to be at Rey's side.
Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley are both crazy good, but Adam got much more interesting character arc to play.
It sure is they would have sucked and wouldn't have the little respect they do
john williams tho, the good stuff
All of the actors (and John Williams as always) did a great job imo.
Adam Driver is a horrible actor. He plays the same character in all of his movies. Hope his career dies.
The way Bens style totally changed from when he was Kylo. As Kylo he struck with anger and rushed blows. As ben, he swings it around, just like his grandfather.
SHOULD'VE LEFT A LITTLE JEDI SEED IN HER FIRST WOULD OF BEEN A SMART MOVE
@@kederabdi4978 uhhhhhhhhhhh
"So anyways I started swinging like my dead grandfather"
@@kederabdi4978 Haha
Pause 😂😂😂😂
1:50 is such a heartwarming scene.
Two of the galaxy's most iconic starfighters are seen together on the big screen for the final time.
they should have sex and make a hybrid baby fighter
It’s not the final time
@@Jeerin_ chronologically it is. It is the last time in canon that we see either the TIE/LN or the T-65B.
Should’ve been vaders tie fighter
@@thedarkside4610 THATS WHAT IM SAYING MAN
Like grandson like grandfather. Ben’s willingness to fight palpatine and redeem himself is the best thing he’s ever done, his parents would be proud.
Yeah, but its pretty stupid they killed him. His redemption arc isnt very satisfying because this man has done some truly hideous shit. They shouldve made him live and make him suffer the consequences of his actions. Like they couldve shown him burying the lightsabers of his family, redeeming the skywalker legacy, and building a new Jedi Order
Except that he either directly or indirectly killed each of his parents. So, I don't know how proud they'd be...
Bens shrug gets me every time it's so Han
Totally! Ben is a perfect mixture of Han and Leia. Not to mention Adam Driver plays him so well.
@@emilyknowles8788 I bet he couldn't wait to actually act like the son of Han Solo for these films
Jovalin he just shouldn’t have waited until the last movie of this trilogy to turn good. Imagine if he had switched to the good side in episode 8, then both he and Rey could have had all of episodes 9 to defeat the dark side.
That's what I thought! Just like his dad.
@Dragongamer 7 It was on the Death Star remains during his fight with Rey. He halted, having heard Leia's voice then Rey stabbed him. Then they both felt the Force shudder and they both knew Leia was gone. So, it was Rey's last meeting with him before this part.
Ben embraces Skywalker and solo
Solo: running around one-shoting troopers to save his friends
Skywalker: sprinting into battle with little to no plan to help his friends
Nice comment
Also Solo:
Shoting trooper without looking at him
Hugo Wiberg Nice profile pic.
Brilliant
Thanks to his father Han
I love the grudging respect when Ben pulls out the lightsaber and they all take a step back as he shrugs.
That was fear. They were his personal guard when he was Kylo Ren, and knew what he could do with a lightsaber. They showed him respect at the beginning of the fight when he was unarmed, disgust when they were giving him the beating and fear when they realised that their former boss had a weapon that he was highly skilled at using, and a reason to fight them until one side was dead.
Ben's little like shrug after getting the saber is just so good.
"Yeah. I know right??" Like his expression just. Ha.
Did anyone else think that Ben felt like a combination of Han Solo and Anakin Skywalker?
EDIT: Lol looks like y'all agree.
@Alessandro Owen your being stupid :)
@Alessandro Owen you being stupid af)
mcolottiboy No shit
He shoots like Han, but in melee battle he's pure Anakin.
I do think JJ Abrams put that subtlety there unintentionally.
I know that people don’t like the fact that “ow” is Ben’s only line. But it is kind of cool to hear his voice, especially because he sounds like Han Solo. He definitely does not sound like Kylo. Would Kylo even say “ow”??
You can thank KK for that. She is the main reason Hayden, Adam and Mark got their parts cut out of the movie.
Kylo wouldn't show weakness, plus his dark-side would feed off the pain.
Rubberhand that's just not true. KK had litteraly barely anything to do with this movie. Bob Iger got JJ in behind her back and then JJ refused to work with the Lucasfilm Storygroup. We know from Freddie Prinze JR that Dave Filloni is the one who got most of the jedi voice's into that scene. I don't like KK but fs i can admit when something wasn't her fault
@@jackcampbell7898 everything I said has been confirmed. KK is the reason most of the movie had to be reshoot because she didn't agree with the direction the original script was going to take.
niceviewer ugh. Okay. He said Ow, because he does not have his hate to stop the pain from being so potent. So say this then, if chewie shot Ben with his bowcaster at this very second, Ben would more than likely die. As Star Wars is, hate is a hard thing to kill. Like how Anakin lost three limbs and burned annnd crawled up a small hill of burnt ash. He didn’t die because of his hate.
Honestly the shot I loved was when she is about to strike palpatine and then she sees Ben. The acting so good u see the slight change in her demeanor from uncertainty and fear to hope. And Ben’s smile of encouragement
That’s so true! Daisy is an amazing actress
@@hayleenicole9326I and every star wars fan disagrees with you
@@Maaz2360 I don't think you can tell acting from writing
@@Maaz2360 I and every Star Wars fan think that every word in that sentence was wrong.
@@simaopinto8521 On the fight on the ship in rise of the skywalker, Kyli had his lightsaber above his head to strike (Leaving his full open sides) and REY AIMED FOR HIS LIGHTSABER, only 0.1% of the star wars community likes rey, and thats generous. Even Mark Hamill (actor of luke) hates rey proof everywhere just search it.
Man, I love Ben Solo’s erratic and wild fighting style. Just something about the crazy way he swings.
Rey should've killed Palpatine, turn bad, and then Ben kills evil Rey. This would mean the Rise of (a real) Skywalker.
I was hoping that was the ending
Kathleen doesn’t want a man to kill the protagonist.
No, that would have been a terrible end for Rey, whose establishing character moment is that she won't let BB8 be hurt even though she's only just met him. It would have just been Daenerys and the bells again. Besides which, Ben rose as a Skywalker when he chose to fight Palpatine, and Rey is a real Skywalker because Luke, Leia and Han were like family to her.
Katherine Frost I agree it wouldn’t have been a good ending considering how her character was established but she’s not a real Skywalker man
iiCamaxtli
Yes
In the first movie I thought Kylo was honestly just an edgy emo teen, but in the next two he was one of the best characters
We have to thank Rian Johnson for that! :)
Thats called "character development"
He is still an edgy emo.
MrNinja 69 true true
zainab hussain yup lmao
I really enjoyed this scene. I liked that we got to spend a couple minutes with Han and Leia's son. Those were our two characters! We watched them almost die in the original trilogy so many times, but here is the proof that they won and had enough peace and time to start a family! He's a little awkward, a little cocky, a bit haunted, but utterly unapologetic and very very brave. Everything a Solo/Skywalker needed to be.
I love how his musical theme was made to sound more heroic. John Williams is a godsend.
They changed it to a major key
I like how he scored the Force leap at 4:41 too, reminds me of Hook haha, makes Ben feel like Peter Pan. Brings out his youthful and lighter rebellious spirit.
@@joeisnothome Nah it's still in minor, it's just decorated differently, starting with the original instrumentation, then repeated on strings and woodwinds for a less villainous sound
@@dlh7989 Also reminiscent of the flute runs that often accompany Millennium Falcon manouvers
Where can I find Ben's theme
1:49
I actually like that shot. A TIE Fighter and an X-Wing parked up next to each other, a sight I don't think we've ever seen. Old enemies with serious history becoming allies. The X-Wing is Luke's, and the TIE is from the Death Star II wreckage.
I love that shot, and I like to think that is a tribute to the Original Trilogy.
Ties do not have hyper drives.
@@arnoldschwarzenegger8871 this is a tie scout, this is similar though with a hyperdrive.
@@dartisboi Thanks
@@arnoldschwarzenegger8871 welcome man...
This should have been Ben Solo’s trilogy, wasted potential.
Trueee
It has been both Rey and Ben's trilogy. I'm referring to Rian Johnson who said that both Rey and Ben are two halves of the protagonist. Made sense since TFA opens with Kylo Ren.
Watch a sith become a jedi. im good g
@@hezomelo956 nothing wrong with a redemption story, happened with Darth Vader in the end, the major problem with the new trilogy is the writing, the second film rail roaded the trilogy so hard that the third films pandering (even if this is kinda what they always intended) was not only lost, but it wasn't set up all that well (so much of what happens in this film, force fed to you in that film itself, rather than having well thought out plot points dropped in previous films that were properly built upon). This film is the very definition of damage control. Why Kathleen Kennedy still has a job at Disney, after fucking up a multi billion dollar franchise that could have made wayyyyyy more money for Disney, boggles the mind.
Would be nice to see the story in ben's perspective
I love how this fight highlights the different strengths of Rey and Ben. Rey’s more skilled in the Force, while Ben’s more skilled in actual duelling.
I don't wanna sound like a 60 year old boomer but Rey isn't skilled in anything tbh. She's a Mary sue who is blessed by Disney to have broken amounts of strength without any training/ experience. On the other hand, it makes sense for Kylo to be skilled since he's literally the descendant of the Skywalker bloodline + he has done training before as well. I would say that Kylo >> in terms of both force and actual duelling.
I have a few counter arguments here.
1. Rey IS somewhat trained in the force. Not only does she naturally have a strong bloodline for starters but she has read the jedi book and been trained a by Leia off screen in matters of the Force itself. However Leia could NOT provide Jedi combat training. Only force related things which is why she's so much better at the Force part than combat.
2. A mary sue is "a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses."
Rey consistently shows weakness. Even as the main protagonist she has found herself both captured and defeated countless times.
She lost her 1v1 vs Kylo and failed to protect Finn the first time around. She would have been in trouble with Snoke if not for Ben. She would have been hunted by Kylo successfully if not for Lukes sacrifice. She would have lost the second duel vs Ben had Leia not distracted him. And she would of fulfilled the emperors plans if Ben had not been there.
She consistently displayed a lack of fighting skill that was force driven but still unpolished compared to people like Kylo/Ben on screen. And she never pulled off any crazy force feats like Leia or Luke either. Explain to me in detail her "broken amount of strength". Because from where I stand most force sensitive people can at the very least without training use it to run from people or defend themselves in a retreating manner to which she did often at first prior to meeting Leia. If how she acted makes her a mary sue then by default any force sensitive person who uses the force to accomplish any task without training is a mary sue. Which would be a dumb claim.
@@MilkshakeGuruTTV adding on to this, the fight between her and Ben on the Death Star wreckage clearly showcases who the superior duellist is. For the first little bit, Ben doesn’t even have his lightsaber drawn; he’s essentially just toying with Rey. He continues to do so until Leia’s death breaks his concentration.
Likewise, Rey’s strength with the Force is showcased here. A trooper fires a shot at her; she uses the Force to hit him with it, rip it out, and kill a second trooper. Her entire form is based on constantly using the Force.
@@Judge-1964 Tbh she will probably have proper saber training post her initial trilogy. I saw the rumor they want her back in a teacher like role. Which makes sense givin her last ending. She's going to have to speak to a lot of ghosts and read a lot of books to train herself but it's possible lol.
@@MilkshakeGuruTTV Fair.
His little head bob at 4:17 is so funny. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 He's like "Now we can start"
I can’t watch this without the song “ I need a hero” playing in the background
Same😂
Legit Bruh 🤣
You too? :-D
Same its so weird
Hahahah it was so fun!
1:57 Is everybody gonna ignore the fact that Bens last word was "Ow"
Rare for him to say that
thats probably alot of peoples last word
@@vintagescvrlet Reminded me of Padme dying. She's medically fine but just seemed to keel over. Fanon for years has been that her life force was used to save Anakin as he became Vader.
No. Almost every 2nd comment on here is about that “ow” line....
That's deep now that I think about it
I also like how when the lightsaber manifests into bens hand, he gives a little shrug like “hell idk”. I caught a real Han Solo vibe from that scene.
I don’t think people realize is how similar Ben is to his father. Like okay with a light saber he is his grandfather’s grandchild but Han is all over him the shooting behind his back without looking and the little movement he does with his arms after he brings out the light saber out know where is great.
I love how Ben Solo's theme song changed into a major scale compared to Kylo Ren's minor scale.
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this!!
Didn’t notice. I was too busy feeling sick.
Only a musician would appreciate/ notice this!❤🎼🎶
Who?
Ben Solo deserved better!!! #BringBenSoloBack
the fans deserved beter #sequelreboot
No
@@henkhenk8320 you think that will happen?
@Connor Kubischta that is happening tho.. kinda.
Nope. We don't need this Wannabe
This is my favorite video rn!!
I love how Ben comes to help Rey when she is all alone in the darkest place she's ever been and he ultimately saves her life
This is just awesome!!
I love how Ben has Both His dads and Grandpas fighting style and personality the no look blaster shot defo Solo and the way he used the lightsaber was so reminiscing of Anakin but still had some hints of kylo in it but thats just his style and i find it fitting he used Anakin's saber too great way to show he has been redeemed
Ben Solo redeeming himself was the best part of this trilogy, I will die on this hill.
It doesn't say much that it's the best if it's the only good scene in the trilogy.
@@TheStraightestWhitest doesn't take away the fact that this is pretty damn good
3 best scenes from each movie (IMO)
- Ben betraying and killing Han
- Ben’s “duel” with Luke
- this scene
Notice how Ben is in all of them and not Rey lol
@@carson3140 yeah they wrote her terribly
@@oddball9266 Not a Rey Simp, but She's just badly written by Disney.
That “ow!” at 1:58 was so Ben Solo! he never would’ve said that as Kylo Ren!
Fr
dang I just remember Han saying that
Ace of Spades when did he say that I forgot
@@bradenjoy2735 now that you asked.. I don't even know but I just remember him saying "ow"
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or sarcastic.
Somehow it’s just satisfying seeing Ben fighting as a Jedi 💙
He fights so much better & cleaner as a Jedi. Almost like when he was Kylo Ren he wasn’t just fighting his enemy in combat but also himself. Like it literally looks that way in comparing the two
3:42 - you can see how stiff and afraid Rey is by looking at her neck, as soon as she sees Ben you literally see her entire neck relax...just thought that was a nice detail.
Wow. How did I not pick up on that.
truly the actors daisy and adam carried the whole plot because they really project great connection of their characters to each other
@@doggoswift6896 I'm mad at myself for not picking up on it🤔
@@sootierpluto Lol
@@maimorata she literally has no proper development and is a complete Mary Sue
4:13 Ben finally got Anakin's lightsaber...
Yeah the one he used to murder innocent children? That one?
@@gzz8551 😂 Good call!
The Youngling Slayer 9000 is the proper name for it I believe
He got the Orphan Obliterator
The Orphanator
I love how when Kylo gets the lightsaber he does the little shrug like “let’s go” 😂
Not gonna lie, I *really* wish they hadn't killed Ben off after his redemption.
One thing we never got to see is an antagonist having a redemption arc and then living with the consequences of their actions, Ben should have lived, would have been fascinating
or a better ending is Ben lives, but they both no Ben can never be redeemed by others he caused so much harm too , so he goes off to live in exile but Rey goes with him because she spent her entire existence trying to find her place in the universe waiting for her family to return so instead she goes to start her own.
then the whole "Rey Skywalker' thing makes at least some sense since she is going to marry someone who actually has skywalker blood in him.
the movie would end with them going to tatooine burying the sabers then they both look into the twinsunset on tatooine with john williams score
it wouldnt have fixed the sequels but it wouldve at least been a satisfying ending rather than a bittersweet one
@@greenkidd529 glad this shit didn't happen it was already cringey
I think I would’ve been interesting and better if it ended before Ben transferred life into Rey. She avenged her parents and killed off the palpatine bloodline (sacrificing herself in the process).
Nah, he'd be sentenced tp death, rightfully.
@@greenkidd529 the more i look at the sequels. The more i realize that even if they're very flawed. They are still somewhat enjoyable (effects, scenery, details)
Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley's chemistry is so strong, even in action sequences
Madiha Naeem you don’t mean the real actors romantically,
right?
Sara G lmao I dont think so
@@sarag6251 They have their own partners everybody knows that, but for actors its importat to have chemistry and they have chemistry and that is the most important thing in a movie. Look at Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen in the prequels, they had zero chemistry together, even they dated in real but the chemistry isnt there.
@@sarag6251 duh
Sara G...ACTING chemistry and it helped they are friends too.
You know it's subtle, but you can see Han's mannerisms in Ben.
4:16 gets me every time 😂 “yeah, I did that. Now die!”
Better Ending: Rey and Ben defeat Palpatine, together. Rey wants Ben to join her to rebuild the Jedi but Ben fears that the darkness still out there in the Universe and in him, leaves to atone for his sins by seeking out and destroying that darkness using their own dark powers against them as the first "Grey" Jedi since Mace Windu. Hell, there could have been another trilogy or maybe even a television miniseries/series. A merciless Ben Solo protecting the Light with the Darkness within as he struggles to prove to himself that he was indeed worthy of redemption. Would have been pure gold IMHO.
Whole heartedly agree!
Holy shit...im reading this before i sleep...hopefully i have a dream movie
Sooo many fanfictions tell so many better stories than TROS.
make him go to ach to probably talk to his anceators there rey insisting he kept his grandfathers lightsaber as a reminder of the good man his grandfather was and how many lives he saved with that weapon. also would be a nice touch to rey saying you were right back then. this lightsaber belongs to you.
Sasuke in Boruto then
Adam Driver dragged this trilogy to the finish line. It would have been unwatchable without him.
More like he DROVE the series to the end
I would argue that it IS totally unwatchable
I agree the best thing about these movies is his he is badass
Even though they get man handled right after, the shot of them raising The skywalker saber and Lea’s together makes me happy. Say what you will about the trilogy, but Rey and Bens relationship was definitely the best part
1:33 I just noticed that it is more heroic version of Kylo Ren's theme
2:46 it should have been "We stand behind you boss, to the end." the Knights of Ren vs Palpatine's Royal Guards. Would have been a great action sequence and a test to true loyalty.
That would only really work if they were already established “characters” You see?
The knights of ten were so much waste of potential, we never had the opportunity to see them as a full menace. Aside from that, didn’t they were also students from Luke? And have lightsabers or use the force?
@@Pablofrommerkwood That was what J.J. intended in TFA.
@@ricksterdrummer2170 So sad Rian Johnson went to change things, he is a good director though but Disney didn't even plan what to do with the characters. What a mess.
Knights of Ren vs The Redrobes...would have been one hell of a fight.
Ben Solo has the fighting spirit of his father and his grandfather and his uncle/Jedi Master
LOL He nothing Like Anakin. Anakin would kill them without breaking a sweat. As a young Anakin or Vader.
Oh absolutely.
Cronic nah, jedi anakin (young vader) is not as good as Jedi Ben overall, sure in terms of sheer force and technique, anakin is way better, but anakin never masted a cool head,
as obi-wan have proved a clear head during battle is crucial, but I don’t think anakin ever went into a battle with the clearest mind as he was constantly troubled by the dark side from his trauma and hatred, partly contributed to the fact that he was not a great Jedi to begin with, Jedi ben however, corrected by Han and leia, have solid aim, he knew exactly what he needs to do.
Mature Vader however, it’s a completely different story, with his suit made to save him as quick as possible(not for combat, nor mobility, nor comfort), his battle ability were dramatically decreased due to the weight of the suit at the beginning, but because of that and the constant pain the suit brought, it allowed his dark force ability to grow even stronger, hence makes up the lost in fast hand to hand combat. And obviously Vader have a cool head until his son show up, as he thought he got nothing more to lose
With mature Vader, all the people in that building could be choked to death in a matter of second
@@Underpowered3719 you mean Ben Solo oh losses his temper, got hurt by a non Jedi with a light saber and lost to a person who never trained at all the first time the fight. That Ben Solo? Is clear headed. He has mommy and daddy issues. to sum it up, he lost a fight to someone who never trained, he never won a fight, he was hurt by someone who is not even force sensitive. He got his ass kicked by the knights of ren who are not force sensitive until magic gave him a saber. He is so weak he cant use the force to beat six none fore sensitives, got hut in a saber battle witn someone who not force sensitive or trained, lost every battle? That is the guy you think can beat Young Anakin or Vader. LOLOLOL thanks for that laugh.
Cronic dude he only lost because he got shot by a fucking crossbow that’ll kill anyone, but he just walked it off, he killed Han which struck an emotional pain in him, and still chased finn and Rey, beating finn, but he continued to fight Rey. After all, she is a Palpatine
It's 2022 and I am still mad at his death
Would’ve been cooler if the knights only answered to Ben, so when they walked out towards ben, one of them could’ve said something like “We follow you, Ren.” Then Palpatine ends up killing all of them, one by one, so that only Ben remains.
Indeed, at that moment Ben viewed them as his faithful brothers in arms since he became their master.
The knights were hyped for an epic battle we never got to see.
The knights versus Palp' guards and at the end using all of their power against Palps who kills them one by one would be more fitting I believe
The bond between Rey and Kylo really is the heart and soul of this trilogy. Despite all of the directorial disagreements and narrative flaws, this is the one element that remains strong throughout. Almost all of the credit goes to the actors.
Yup. I hated many things about this trilogy...especially the way they treated Luke. The way they wasted Fynn, Poe, and Rose's character potentials. Even the way they handled Leia at times was awkward. But the last remnant of Star Wars's heart survived within Rey and Ben. They were the only thing about this trilogy that felt like Star Wars. Star Wars is about family, love, light, dark, and spirituality. All of these things can be found within these two characters. Is it a bit clunky at times? Sure. But regardless of how I feel about the rest of the trilogy, the bond between these two allows me to think a little more fondly of the Sequels.
Indeed. It is beautiful. I also feel Ben will return. They're not going to waste awesome like this and....I confess....they make both a cute and badass Battle-Couple.
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I realize that Ben had to die (temporarily) if you consider all the crap he pulled as Kylo. However, he can still return. He wasn't even among the Force Ghosts in the end and Exegol is a HUGE World Between Worlds portal.
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Nope; He's in the WBW and I have a hunch that he will emerge out of the Force Cave on Ach-To. I think Rey went straight to Ach-To after the last scene on Tatooine, will enter the cave, Ben comes out of that mirror-wall and the two start the new successor to The Jedi Order. Finn will probably be one of their first students.
it also made no sense. Rey downloads force training. A concept ruined by its own creators
Even that sucked.
agreed
At 4:57 it's crazy how much Ben Solo looks like Anakin. Also, I really wish Rey would have been a Kenobi. Imagine: A Kenobi and a Skywalker both standing together to finally defeat the very evil that tore their families apart. Oh well :(
He's got the face of Han, the build of Anakin, and the skills of Luke
A true Skywalker and Solo
@MP on her mother's side. Her mom could have been satine. Epic
@@kaitlynmartin2075 Grandma at least, The Clone Wars was years before TFA
Ben has Han’s long face and posture as well as Leia’s warm brown eyes.
that would have been perfect actually
If Ben was the main character at the end of this trilogy he truly would’ve been the rise of Skywalker and has his own cool lightsaber at the end that wasn’t red
He didn’t have to throw away his Saber he could have purified it, turning at white like Ahsoka, then we could have seen a white cross guard Jedi Saber
@@christophersanchez7731 a stable cross guard saber.
he kind of is the main character
He's a Solo though. It would make no sense for him to take the skywalker name after the episode already showed him loving his father. It is rather odd Rey went with skywalker though as she was closer to both Han and Ben, both Solo's, and Leia, who still answers to Organa. I understand it's for the sake of closure on the skywalker saga. But rey taking on the name Solo would have made most sense, followed by Organa. Or just keeping Palpatine, and turning it into a name of light and inspiration. An amazing final mockery of the last sith.
One thing that will always be perfect about this movie is the music. Reys theme is 🔥🔥
The moment they reconnect through the force dyad and you see the relief and disbelief in her face as she looks at him. You could tell she was scared. Afraid and alone. But when she saw him the look she gave him was so soft. Loving. She feels safe. Like it’ll all be okay. He came all this way for her. To save her. Even if he knew they wouldn’t live through this at least they’d be together. At least he could spend his final moments with her, and her knowing she was right about him. Two that are one. You know he wish he would’ve made this choice to be with her sooner.
I couldn’t have said it better myself!
This is exactly it! I don’t know why people were so against them as a pairing romantically or not. Their chemistry was amazing. Everybody who said this pairing was out of place clearly hasn’t got any attention to detail their connection was so clear in the two films before this one. I wasn’t shocked at all by the kiss at the end either
Nah. It is just Disney pulling together a last ditch effort to have a romance in the movie.
Its because i felt that the romance was an actual ass pull. I NEVER felt any romantic tension with these 2 for the whole trilogy
@Dragongamer 7 yeah tbh i actually thought it'd be rey and finn
4:17. That simple gesture. Yes that is classic Solo.
eaglerocks123 and Anakin lol
Pretty sure Adam Driver improvised it
Ebanks Studios even better
I don’t like how people hate on this movie… it may not be the best, but it certainly had its moments. This scene went from possibly the end of the resistance and the eternal reign of the dark side, to Kyle Ren going “well, now I have my lightsaber, and the dark side is going down”!!!!! Awesome
There are scenes that were good
But Ben & Rey should have fought Palpatine together also Ben should have lived
There are alot of other things that I hate but Ben's death is just the final nail in the coffin
And ofcourse killing all the stormtroopers 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
That shrug was epic. It's like, "hey boys, you're all f'd now."
5:10-That image of Rey and Ben standing side by side holding Luke's/Anakin's and Leia's respective lightsabers--man, that always makes me smile. Been really deserved to hold that legendary lightsaber. For real this time.
It’s total crap.
@@gzz8551 No it's not.
@@annaleichliter4171 You actually like this shit?? What are you, like 12?
@@gzz8551 Okay, for your information, first of all, I'm NOT 12, I'm 19. Second, of course I like this movie; I'm not one to criticize on it. And third, you need to watch your mouth or else you'll say something that you'll regret later on in life.
How though?
Also you didn't even come close to proving him wrong by reacting like that.
I didn't particularly enjoy this movie but Adam Driver's scenes allowed me to leave the theatre without feeling as though I had completely wasted my time.
This, yup.
Yes movie was tough to watch, just repetitive predictable story line
*Why do I feel like another comment war is about to happen?*
Memetastic Vondank no there is not since everyone here knows the truth the movie really was great because of Ben/Kylo indeed the story was very predictable and somtimes a bit cringy but other then that I enjoyed it
Supreme Leader Ren
*Ah, nobody could have said it any better..*
I can watch this scene over and over again...Ben really looked like a space prince here....
Me duele volver a ver esta escena. Pensar que si lo dejaban vivo, ahora estariamos soñando de otra manera. 😢 Necesitaba ese tipo de redención. El sacrificio ya lo habian realizado otros, él merecía vivir.
Adam Driver what a great actor! My favourite
Margaret he was absolutely fantastic in this film!
@@chriscage669 *ahem* I think you mean every film lol
@@eccentricjoe5410 Probably not, since it is impossible for any actor to be good in the atrocity that is TLJ.
WhoDarestheMAN gamer You need to watch more films with Adam Driver if you believe that.
*Aaaaand ANOTHER war is about to rage in these comment sections...*
I'll give Kylo/Ben that. He can sure take a beating: bowcaster bolt, electric bolt, lightsaber blade, etc... and he STILL maintained all his limbs!
unlike anakin
It's because Disney does not understand lightsabers
@@meyatetana2973 I always wondered why are the Knights of Ren weapon Blunt? they could have easily killed him before he got the lightsaber if their weapon had edges.
They still did some damage at 3:10. Even though it was pretty trash it wasn't for nothing since he does still have the scars and scratches on his face from their weapons during his death
2:44 that’s how Han Solo used to run with his DL-44 in his hand. Ben is such a hybrid of Solo/Skywalker
That was awesome. And it is cool seeing Ben as a hero.
The music is just incredible. The way John Williams changed the "Bad Guy" Kylo theme into the soaring, heroic "good guy" Ben Solo theme is so simple and subtle, but so impactful. I miss Ben Solo and always will - can't wait for him to come back!
The music change is indeed very creative. No more evil but now heroic
If palpy can be revived, so can ben
Adam Driver was the saving grace of this movie
Absolutely
This movie had other good stuff 2
@Karvakulmio The music
I think Ian McDiarmid is. Adam still really good tho
Things everybody can love about this movie:
- Adam Driver (people hate these movies say Kylo Ren was their favorite)
- Ian McDiarmid hamming it up as Palpatine. (people like I, who hate the idea itself still like the performance)
I know the whole idea of "redeem the bad guy and kill them off in doing so" is RotJ inspired, but 1., the action and visuals bring it to a whole new level: and 2, apart from Force Ghost we don't really see Anakin in RotJ (ultimately it was Vader saving his son), but we DO see Ben Solo in action here for the first and only time.
"Nice of you guys to show up for something important, for once!" - Lego Kylo Ren
Is NOBODY going to give some love to the person who posted this?! God damn, I hung around for the intro and outro because that was chill ass music!
Trevor Wood haha thank you so much Trevor! You’ve earned at the very least a new subscriber today! Much love!
No.
Ok but what is the song at the end i wanna know so bad
Yeah i want to know the name of the this outro song too It is making me so chilling and relaxing and I will listen to this before i go to sleep too
@@Asian19981 same man I'm pissed i can't figure it out lol it's so relaxing and peaceful
I just like how Ben looks so majestic falling, but then goes “Ow.” 1:54
Not to mention "Ow" is the last line from a Skywalker/Solo.
It was the only part of this new trilogy I even enjoyed. Finally, someone expressed something that made direct, correlated sense to the preceding cause. AND it was in character.
When he says "ow" is was spoken like his dad would've said.
@@drewbug93 lol
Very Han
ben solo is so cool, i really hope he sticks around after this, maybbee have a journey of redemption alongside rey, idk, imagine they' unalive him in order to make rey a skywalker and the only skywalker at that, can you imagine that
It’s like whenever a member of the Skywalker family finds their way back to the light side of the force they all pass away.
Honestly the Kylo scenes in this new trilogy carried everything. He is probably in the top 5 best Star Wars characters
For me he is the best one
@@seraphinprotsenko275 Same
@@seraphinprotsenko275 he is second best, right beside my boi Luke
He carried it all - for Rey and himself.
Easily... 👏
The mini shrug at 4:17 though. Like COME AT ME BRO 🔥
I've fallen in love with Ben Solo's theme. If you didn't know, it's the whole theme playing since about Ben arrives on Exegol to when Ben and Rey see each other again in front of Palpatine. The theme where Ben and Rey physically stand in front of each other, which has elements of their respective themes playing, first Ben than Rey, was recently stylized by Samuel Kim. It's all very beautiful.
They're great pieces now that I recognize them and can see it play out overlayed across these scenes in the movie.
It’s also just kylos theme repurposed. It’s great.
Samuel Kim is OP
I love how samuel kim combined their themes created by Mr. Williams. It was so amazing and emotional.
4:58 I love that heroic version of Kylo’s theme
Brooo I didn't even realize that!
oh wow nice catch dude!!
I’m sorry but the passing of the lightsaber was probably one of the dopest things I’m Star Wars, and I bet no one was expecting it
Let’s take a sec to appreciate the aim of the guy shooting io in the air at 4:50
Exactly what I was thinking
kylo ren is the best character of the trilogy.
Agreed
He's still a Daddy Killer...
cj hepburn I mean Harrison Ford wanted Han killed off ever since ESB
@@cjhepburn7406 good for him
Not saying much.
I love these scenes of both Rey and Ben. When they look at each other then hold up the light sabers in unison is one of my favourite scenes. Well I have a lot of favourite scenes Bens shrug/the owe/ the inhale of air etc etc etc.
Robyn Shore same!
One thing I just noticed : Imagine if Rey and Ben somehow split Anakin's saber hence representing the duo faces of the chosen one : Both Palpatine's side of dark turning good and Luke's side of good going evil, and fundamentally both staying on the pure side.
The bond that they had was out of this world 🥲
Adam Driver was absolutely EVERYTHING in this trilogy. I will NEVER fathom the death of the most popular character in this trilogy. Oh and don't get me started about the last Skywalker thing. I will never get over it. I want Ben Solo back STAT!
I agree, how could they kill him off?? Was it really necessary??
@Jonathan Andersson It’s like they were trying to copy ROTJ
his death wasn't in vain. he wouldn't really be good as the last jedi since everyone hated him, no one would believe hes ben solo again. so it makes sense rey is the last jedi
@@radstaz2029, no it doesn’t. He was born into this. She wasn’t. She shouldn’t have midichlorians in her.
Ben died to save his lover, which Anakin failed to do. If he didn’t bring her back to life, it would be selfishness and would make the Skywalker legacy feel incomplete. And his sacrifice marked the end for the Skywalker family as it’s now complete, which Rey brought back again as she decided to choose her own path.
Adam Driver is a gigantic actor... you can see it in everything he does.
Palptine being here obviously was never part of the plan and how you feel about that I think will factor alot into how you enjoy this movie. That being said though god damn Ian still knows how to make this charachter so frightning and chilling to watch. I thought he absolutely made the retconning worth it because he can make the tension rise with a snap of the fingers almost on a dime. And I have always felt that Palptine coming back actually works with what one of the sequels themes are in that if you don't learn from mistakes they'll only happen again and the past will just keep haunting you. The way he looks like he's not even alive in this movie really helped sell that to me, like he'll always be there to prey on vulnerable minds if people slip up too much.
I'm still angry that he died 😭😭 how can they just do him dirty like that 😭😭
Characters die bro. By your logic they did Iron man dirty in Endgame
@@orbaitv5991 well there are videos out there about iron man's character development throughout the MCU and I think him dying in endgame is a pretty legendary send-off
I don't think Finn and Poe would be happy to have a former psychopathic killer in their friendship circle.
@@orbaitv5991 iron man had a ten year old road of character development, kylo barely reach his surface in this three movies, and thats thanks to adam driver awesome perfomance, so yeah they fuck off his storyline
@@FANIMATOR Who cares?
I'm starting to grow a real appreciation for these actions scenes--the way Ben handles a blaster like his father and the way Rey redirects blaster fire with the force were things I didn't appreciate when watching it in the theater. Also Ben does seem like he would have made a great long term Jedi.
Rey was pulling some crazy force stuff in the fight here. She crushed a dude to the ground, was throwing people, redirecting laser bolts left and right. She was fully confident in herself and the force there. Damned impressive. And Ben had training, of course, but it was fun to see him use it as Ben, rather than Kylo. His little shrug after pulling out the saber is pure Han from episode 6 after catching the reinforcements off guard.
@@thatwasglfo I've never called her a Mary Sue. Not once. My views on this have been consistent since opening night. Others sure have done about faces.
She's a Palpatine so her Force-potential is also quite through the roof. Not saying mistakes were not made, because they were, but both of actors had great chemistry and this definetely helped, even if the overall writing for trilogy was mixed like hell.
Would have loved to see more of Ben Solo. Wasted opportunity.
Rey and Ben are both Great Characters
5:00 love how John Williams puts Kylo's theme into a major key