Last night, I dreamt that I was back at the church in Mexico where I preached for about a year, but instead of preaching on the gospels behalf, I was preaching against it. Then everybody was trying to tell me how God is love. I then told them to tell that to the Midianites, the people of Jericho, Ai, Egypt, the Amlikites, and so on. I don't remember their reaction, but that was what I dreamt.
@@MindShift-Brandon thank you for all the effort and patience. You more then anyone knows when trying to change the world you get the push back of it. But your being the example of change you want to see, like Gandhi said " be the change you want to see" so keep up the work.
"Loving your enemies" is a pretty easy thing to say when you're an omnipotent god. It's totally different when the peopls that want to harm you actually have the power to do so.
It’s kind of sad that if I was raped and tortured, I have to forgive the person who raped and torture me to begin with.. even if I was an omniscient person
@@MindShift-BrandonWhy? It seems to me there is an assumption being made here that loving your enemies necessarily increases their potential for doing you harm. But why would that be the case? I’m a lifelong agnostic, and have found much to admire and learn from on this channel. I’ve pretty much agreed with everything I’ve heard, in fact. Until today.
Like how John McArthur told the wife of an abusive husband to stay with him and suffer like Jesus suffered. Last I heard the husband was sentenced to 20 years in prison.
@@MindShift-Brandon "christian persecution complex" should be in the DSM😆 I found out they think they are being persecuted even if you just disagree with them 🙄
I had previously subconsciously ignored the trouble of objective morality with Jesus' teachings along the idea of "Do this for reward", as opposed to "Do this because it i right". Thank you for clearing an inconsistency that I did not even realise was hovering in my brain.
Yes, this was such a great thing pointed out for me too. Since I left Christianity a couple years ago, I realised I felt more genuine in my interactions and how I treated other people. It came from me, because I wanted to, and not because The Bible tells me x, y, z formula etc.
“If you believe your God is all powerful, he should never have tied hands”. This statement is my biggest reason why a god like the one described in the Bible cannot exist. If you created everything, have foreknowledge on how every outcome you create will go, and it’s within your power to create the exact reality you want, you must assume that this reality is the exact reality Bible God wanted… but that makes him a liar (which he claims never to do) for stating that it’s his desire that no one is separated from him in hell. How is that your true desire when you deliberately chose to make a world in which that isn’t possible, despite the ability to make the actual reality you wanted (aka heaven, where people will be perfect and sinless forever; demonstrating that it is a possibility despite any free will argument)… For me, it not merely “I don’t believe in God anymore”, it’s the fact that I realized that the God of the Bible as he’s described by the “god-breathed”, infallible word, cannot exist. Such a God requires a very particular outcome in creation, which we clearly don’t have.
3:40 "Maybe Jesus should have studied the scriptures a bit more..." - Brandon Jesus: Love your enemies YHWH: Go into the city and *kill without pity or compassion*
@@liepa7768 You may be interested in the "Secret Book of John". It's a Nag Hammadi text, with a completely different creation retelling... where Yahweh is the bad guy.
Virtually every Southern Baptist preacher, in my area, is using the book of Joshua to justify the slaying of the Palestinians and taking of their lands. They tend to ignore where this book ids the Lord, God as the SUN.
@@harveywabbit9541 No. The Creator of the Universe, The Lord God gave the land to the people of Israel. All the nations there in Canaan were to be severly judged for their evil, wickedness, and idolatry.
@@christophergibson7155 See Deuteronomy 32.18, where the phallus (rock that begat thee) claims to be the creator. Israel is two words of Isra/Ysra (phallus) and el (god). Who, in their right mind, would claim that "god is the phallus" is a country?
While I think ``Loving your enemies`` is questionable advise and isn`t always wise in all circumstances I still wouldn`t wish even my worst of enemies to go to a place and burn for all eternity.
I actually agree to the general sentiment to at least _some_ degree, but for reasons that certainly hadn't ever crossed the minds of the authors of any of those scriptures. My main reason is pretty much based on my view that there isn't, and actually can't be, anything resembling what most people mean with "free will". I can't make even halfway as good a case for that view here as Sam Harris does in a couple of talks, so I won't try. Another, smaller, but nowhere near negligible reason is how fallible we can be in our judgement, meaning that I could be seen (falsely or to _some_ degree accurately) as an "enemy" by someone else from my society, so I'd rather promote that view in case I should ever be on the receiving end. Plus of course the whole thing that rehabilitation works *_so_* much better than punishment/vengeance.
Agreed, considering the fact that people become the way that they are because of the environment around them that influences people’s mental development and perspective on things. No one has control over where they are born, and how they are molded. No one deserves eternal punishment because of circumstances. We may have control over our actions, but we never have control over how we develop, especially at a young age.
Right?! Why can I, a mere mortal, come up with a better system, which might include a rehabilitative approach. But, I guess that would call into question too many other concepts that are central to this controlling belief system centered on heaven/hell. Thanks to Brandon for the way he breaks these things down on this channel
I find it funny that Jesus telling us to love your enemy is not because the enemies have intrinsic value or rights as humans of different ethnicities and cultures, but because it makes the Jews have a better religious image. Essentially, it’s love your enemies because you guys are so much better and perfect that you should.
I could add that the Jews love all their enemies... except when they don't. Now is not the time for me to associate god with love. She is the Lord of War after all.
The intrinsic value of each human being is only practiced in a small geographic location. The ancient cultures of each continent did not think so. What makes you so special that your moral intuitions are self-evidently true? If so, what made the ancient cultures miss this crucial moral system?
Forget loving your enemies. This god doesn't even bother acting like the Good Samaritan. He is the Greatest Bystander in The Universe, as he watches and witnesses all the suffering in the world and does nothing. There are many people suffering right now, dying and being persecuted, both believers and non believers, and the best he can do is supposedly send his fallen delegates rather than intervening himself. Yes let's use victims of suffering as a teachable moment for the delegates to strengthen their faith. We stop being people like this, we become products of value, defined by how great our faith is.
@@BluStarGalaxyAnd if you want to piss them off, say to them "Well apparently, 'Gawd' figured a non-believer is more deserving than a believer, seeing as how the only one _you_ help is yourself. So is it a good thing or a bad thing that 'Gawd' made me want to help others but did the opposite for your selfish narcissistic @$$?"
Beautifully said! You are right on the mark! I'm sick and tired of Jeeeeeeeezzzzzzuzzzzzz thoroughly enjoying walking and talking like an unknowably-exalted character of 'enviable' and 'teasing' mystery as he constantly pontificates and decrees hard and difficult ascetic and impossibly-altruistic things onto the backs of mankind and of his followers while receiving and demanding supreme glory and worship and reverence and praise and honor and devotion - and while he fails to acknowledge or condemn or describe or be aware of ubiquitous parental and domestic neglects and mistreatmnts and abuses of children and the profoundly destructive effects it has on children. Jeeeeeeeezzzzzzuzzzzzz is covertly a smugly-narcissistic bully-boss, contradictory and inconsistent, erratic and unpredictable, prickly and socially-unpleasant and socially-unrefined, extremist and implacable, he is frequently a big fu_k, a detestable a_shole, he is in love with himself and if he did not have the world to constantly condemn and to criticize and to find fault with he would be bored. He loves to endlessly churn his followers into seeking and building his ethereal 'kingdom of God' at the expense of their own pleasant and healthy and good sense of participatory self-fulfilment and self-actualization.
My mother used to encourage me to forgive without needing others to ask for it because holding a grudge is like poisoning yourself and hoping it will kill your enemy. And it got me thinking, “Since forgiveness is commanded and heralded as so good, why does God need us to believe in him and ask for forgiveness before he’ll forgive us?” That was the first time I realized that the foundation of the salvation system is fundamentally flawed and God couldn’t possibly exist as described because no all powerful or omnibenevolent being would set up this system.
We are also not on the same level as God nor the Angels (the elephant in the room). And the major distinction between mortals and immortals is time itself. Time itself is the antidote to evil (what humans would describe as evil). So given enough time it is reasonable to conclude that all evil can be defeated. And if there is plenty of time there needs to be very little laws to be administered to manage and to curtail evil doings. So then if God is immortal and immortality for the most part does the good then why around 100yrs for the human being? In the mage and likeness of god??? Hardly. I mean ok makes much more sense if we are just some sort of entertainment for the gods if arrows and bullets don't kill then my oh my there goes half the drama! The "Gods" cannot have that! Another aspect is the God(s) is just a scientist but then God is a Deity that winds up the universe and let's it play out never interfering only observing and taking notes. From where I'm looking at it we (humans) got the short end of the divine stick. And the adulations, prayers going to such a god is really undeserved. God says NOTHING about immortality. There is violence and war and destruction and mayhem and oh yes peace as well wherein the women of the tribe hope to give birth to lots of messiahs. That's not a world that I want to imagine and live in. In reality there is space to explore (also in FDVR - because space exploration can get dangerous) and go on (peaceful) conquering (ie seeding life-less planets with life) the galaxy and universe. Plus emperor Jesus of the Milky Way Galaxy beats King of the Earth Jesus any day!
There is a bit of a problem when God's punishments are being defended as destroying evil. When good and evil are literally defined with God as the standard, God becomes justified in doing whatever he wants, whenever he wants. When God "destroys evil", we could just as well say he destroyed people he didn't like. Putting the biblical God as the standard of good, only makes "good" into something horrific. Putting God as the standard for love, only gets worse.
Forgiveness is such a vague word it's problematic. If I forgive someone who harmed my kids accidentally, then ok, I'm acknowledging it's not in his nature to hurt my kids and it's healthy for all to let any negative feelings go. But if someone deliberately harms my kids because it's in their nature to do so - they are cruel, want power over us ...then where does forgiveness fit in and what does it mean? I can never say "it's ok, done is done," because the deliberate cruelty wasn't and never will be ok. It's important to recognize that or we set ourselves and more importantly, our kids in this case to tolerate more of the same. So to me, forgiveness isn't even an issue. It's more letting go of anger and hatred while acknowledging that the actions of some people are not to be tolerated and taking responsibility for making sure we protect ourselves and those we love from awful, harmful people and their actions. Don't have to hate them, but don't need to - and shouldn't - say what they did was ok or even that we are ok with it now.
Your comment is brilliant and the view of which I have held for many years. Jeeeeeeeezzzzzzuzzzzzz doesn't know what the sam hell fu-k he is talking about in this and numerous other topics.
No i hear you! Its a loaded word and people take it differently. When i say forgiveness in that case, i meant letting go of the power that person had over you. Being and able and willing to move on without resentment and hate eating away at you etc. i do not believe we owe anyone forgiveness in the acceptance kind of way, but i do see amazing value in understanding the realities that lead them to where they are and not excusing the behavior but seeing it for what it is. If a tornado hit my house tomorrow, i wouldnt be angry at it or try to get it back. I wouldnt be happy about it either or wish for another. And id take the right precautions to protect myself from it in the future but again i wouldnt let it take up room in my head.
No one should be forced into eternal punishment, especially considering the fact that no asked to be born in this world in the first. I do believe it’s possible for humanity to change, but if some people don’t want to think for themselves or improve their critical thinking and understanding of things, then humanity has a long way to go before things are stabled everywhere’s. Great video Brandan👍
Brandon, I would love a series where you show how a story in the Bible could not have happened, because of what we know in Archeology. Anytime someone mentions Exodus and the ridiculous Egyptian story, I roll my eyes so hard I get a headache. The date for the Exodus that the Bible gives, with help from 1 Kings 6:1, is 1446/7 BCE. This puts it smack dab in the 18th dynasty and the reign of Thutmose III, and the story in the Bible does align with archeology from that time. Exodus 12:37-38 informs us there were 600,000 men who left Egypt. Add in the wives, children, elderly, and tag-alongs and a conservative estimate is 2.5 million. Further, population estimates for Egypt at that time are less than 4 million. So we'd expect to see a loss of over 1/2 the population... almost all the workforce. Further, there's the plagues. The Nile turns to blood, disease, famine, death by hail, death of livestock, death of the firstborn. Hundreds of thousands, if not more, would have died from famine and other plagues. Then, you have pharaoh's entire army (Exodus 14:9) getting destroyed in the Red Sea... so that's the loss of an entire army and more of the population. It even seems the pharaoh himself may be dead (14:28) So a world power goes from ~ 4,000,000 to easily below 1,500,000... including their entire work force and entire army. And it appears pharaoh himself may be dead. What evidence is there of this happening in archeology? Nothing. Which also means, the tablets with the Ten Commandments story and the Ark of the Covenant is also pure fiction.
The 600,000 men who leave Egypt (winter) are six signs of the Mazzaroth. The firstborn of the Hebrews, wears ram horns and like Abel, he is called the grazer.
I just have to thank you for the Secular Bible Study series. I’m going through it for the 2nd time now and I probably understand the book better than my friends who are believers.
:) Hey Brandon. Happy Sunday! If only more believers can see and understand that the God they worship is NOT the God that is written in their holy book. That is the lie. This understanding is what woke me up.
I used to wonder why they switched from " kill em all" to love em all, but now it makes perfect sense if you're going to control the masses, you don't want them rising up against you, so you tell them God himself gave you this authority and so the same rules apply... love me or die.
Your timing on this is so ridiculously splendid, one of my friends is keeping herself in a bad situation out of fear that she's sinning by not loving her enemies. I've deconstructed, but she hasn't. I can't exactly tell her "the Bible is bullshit dude", so I'm glad you're here actually wading through the text! Ty, great video as always
As a believer, it became so exhausting trying to make this make sense. Especially because i was an evangelist, so these things came up often. I remember one gentleman asked such a simple question, it was actually profound. He asked, "Why can't God just forgive?" I think i said something about God is just, and sin can't go unpunished. But that doesn't really make sense either, because God is the arbiter of morality. So, if God just forgave us, that WOULD be justice. Great video, as always.
"So, if God just forgave us, that WOULD be justice." If somebody murdered ten people cold blood but the judge just said "I forgive you go free and murder more", in your opinion would this be a wicked or a good judge?
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 If he said "I forgive you because I killed an innocent dude last week instead", everyone would consider this as a grave injustice. Yet for some reason that's your pitch - and then you call it "righteous" 😂
Haven't watched the video yet, but the answer is NO. But then again, does he follow any of his own rules? Now, I will continue watching! Thanks for the amazing content
Bingo ! there u go..the biblical God and the people who wrote the bible stories are very inconsistent..and so are every other religion, so many hypocritical traits is too obvious, Brandon explained very well 😅
@@2pacaveli257 Doesn't matter...the suckers will do anything to get to the mythical Heaven. Lying, killing, subversion of our legal system, etc., is acceptable if it means life after death.
There’s a difference in moving on and forgiving someone. I shouldn’t have to forgive someone for doing something messed up to me or my family or anyone I care about, or even someone I don’t care about. I should be allowed to move on, but I shouldn’t have to forgive them. Forgiving someone is a completely different thing than just moving on or accepting what happened
Something that crossed my mind is people says God didn't want us to be robots and have to have free will, well if you read the book God wants us to be slaves unto him - Logic Also to address your video: yup throw the standards right back at God! and he failed to practice what he preaches! Can God forgive me for no longer been a Christian! if no then he can't practice what he preaches
Apparently the value of free will, is just another form of sacrifice. The valuation of the free will, is only important until we decide to follow God. And if we don't follow God, of what value is free will then?
@ralphricart3177 We may not know the mind of this so-called God, but we do know the mind of its followers. They tend to stay watching atheist content far more than believer content. Wonder why that is? 🤔
Excellent points! 4 Edras talks about your ideas. The author struggles with the idea if God is merciful. He asks if God does not forgive people without them performing religious acts, how can he be merciful.
As always, GOLDEN presentation Brandon. I think this video would have been an excellent time to toss in Luke 19:27 which reads “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-bring them here and kill them in front of me.” Where’s the “love thine enemies as your neighbor” in those words spoken by Jesus?
Doing everything the Bible says and waiting for something good to happen because Jesus said it would bring you a reward is a lifestyle that too many people fall victim to. I'm so glad I'm out of that ridiculous mindset. It achieves nothing except wasting your own time, passing up on life opportunities, pushing away potential friends... Thank you for these videos, Brandon. They're all very validating
@@ralphricart3177 everything about God was unforgiving. Everything that I am, all the people I had to grow up with, the hollow, holier than thou people, the hypocrisy of their actions, the way I lost out on time, the way it damaged my psyche. I have been happier and more in control of myself now that I'm not worried about God's wrath every waking second. You can call it a wilderness, I call it peace
Excellent video again, Brandon. You help me every time you post a new video. It's sometimes difficult to deconvert when the majority of your friends are, or think they sre, christians. I'm slowly trying to let my christian friends learn that I no longer am a christian but saying that I will keep them in my thoughts when they ask me to pray for them. Eventually I'll get to the point where I will be able to tell them.
I am right there with you... de-converted and "surrounded" by friends and family who are Christians. I've only told two so far, my sister and a buddy of mine. Give it time and allow yourself space. The time will present itself as to when to share. Like Brandon says at the end of each video, Keep Thinking.
A Jewish lady on paltalk once said,"that loving your enemies is committing suicide". Because even if you love your enemies they are still going to hate you. Especially if they are evil or bad people that are bent on your destruction. Unless your dealing with an enemy. That if you love will become your friend.
I just have to pause the video and say your editing skills and presentation within your videos are outstanding, Brandon!! It's so easy to read the verses etc within the left hand box, your logo at the top and you on the right, it looks so professional and is so effective. Even on a mobile phone. Gee, l don't know how you find the time to do all this 😮, but it is appreciated and noticed. 🎉🎉🎉 Not to mention the content.....❤
I absolutely love how you wrapped this one up. About Forgiveness aside from the Bible and what its truly about. Not just some commandment, but genuine release of your hangups on bad thoughts. Wonderful work as usual Brandon!
Hello Brandon, I'm not new to visiting your channel, but I've been doing a lot of catch up viewing over the last month or two (so new-ish). Your presentation of yourself is fascinating, in that you seem to have a very doggedly logical focus. Yet you still address the emotionally frustrating aspects of the Christian religion, and vocalize many things in a kind of dispassionately passionate way. I've been drawn to your channel because of the ruthless logic that you employ to eviscerate confusing aspects of the Bible, the contradictions, and hypocrisy of the character of God. I like that you say in a measured way things that my own mind has been screaming inside my head for a decade and more; "It's unfair." "It's unjust." "This is not the actions of a loving God." One of my favorites are in light of the definition of God as all powerful, all knowing, and all good; and you put the charge on God; "This is God's responsibility, not my problem" is really quite refreshing to hear, I don't think I've thought that one myself, in the to-the-point way you say it. I like how you address mental well-being and a need for self-confidence balance with self-reflection; not going overboard with the practice of self-flagellation. I have to wonder sometimes if it's even dangerous to read to Bible and saturate oneself with toxic thought processes. One of the things that is most frustrating is the impression that God (and his followers) will always give credit to God for anything good that the human race accomplishes (something about atheists are still doing good in God's name, or something like that); and humans get the blame for anything bad that happens, and God's responsibility for bad things is ignored or glossed over or explained away. It's only in recent years that I have been aware of that very damning Bible quote where God does take credit for creating evil. Do you have any videos that address that tendency to give credit for all good things away to God, and trying to make sure that only the human race shoulders the blame for anything bad? Thank you for doing your videos; the time and work that you put into them.
Holy cow! What an amazing and meaningful response. Thank you dearly for taking the time to provide such useful and encouraging feedback. The closest video i have to your topic is this one, When Tragedy Strikes: Critiquing Harmful Christian Responses ua-cam.com/video/G_u1H8_Fatg/v-deo.html
Thanks for this one today .This was at the forefront on the beginnings of my journey. I don't think forgiveness is necessarily an automatic, simple or easy thing, in reality. I used to think I was a bad person if I didn't forgive regardless of whatever harm someone caused. I've worked on forgiving myself most especially, and at least letting things go so that they no longer affect my life in a negative way. It can be more beneficial when you need to accept that you must move ahead even when you don't get an apology, which can certainly happen. One of many things that has been incredibly helpful to me in all these years is developing boundaries. Some people may dislike you for having them. I can be a loving, caring, helpful human being with values, but I've had to learn to thicken my skin quite a bit. Looking forward to the next one. I have a few friends who I think could benefit from your channel and I've let them know about it.
I absolutely love the idea of combining several videos by their common theme. Whatever you do - do more of that! Can’t wait for the next installment of God: The Anatomy.
Yeah it's so convenient when the Christian says, but God will torture you because he loves you! See? So loving. With that kind of love, who needs enemies.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr You don't find happiness by living in sin and separated from your maker, God treats you with dignity and gives you a choice to live with him or separated from him in all eternity (this is called by definition hell).
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 Who said anything about sin? It's not about sin. Christianity is the place to be if you want to sin. Why do you think there's such abuse problems in the most serious high control Christian communities.
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 I would LOVE to be eternally separated from a guy who thinks I should learn to be happy telling a genocidal maniac how great he is and how awful I am for all eternity. Who threatens me and treats me like garbage like a domestic abusive husband.
I'm probably out of place saying this, but this why I personally like the simplicity and dare I say the reason of Deism. God is a force of nature and not a person in the way we think that isn't bothered by our silly creature thoughts, habits and actions, it is above such things. Religions like any other man-made construct complicates things and we are victims of our own structures and inflated self importance. As flawed as human agency is, there are, as you say, healthy boundaries and nuance when it comes to enemies or just life in general. The bible seems to be a guide on how to justify crappy behavior while being righteous at the same time. Just my thoughts.
I know it's not the main point of the video but I think you brought out a really good point I never really thought about. The NT is full of reward-driven commandments. It breeds selfishness, despite its focus on doing good things for other people. It's all about doing good things so that you get a reward instead of doing them because it's a nice thing to do. It doesn't focus on empathy and understanding, just "what can I get out of this". I wonder if that would make a good video on its own, just talking about how selfish the NT morality and "works" are. Of course it kinda makes sense though. The NT mindset was that the end was coming very soon so affecting the wider society in a good way wasn't a concern. It was bettering yourself and ensuring the best outcome for yourself in the afterlife.
So much fantastic information Brandon. My only complaint is the fact that I take notes of your shows and I’m starting to fall behind lol keep up the great work.
:) This is a lovely comment. It shows how good these videos are. After leaving my church I had difficulties to write down notes on the bible in any form. My mind just couldn't. (I wrote sooo many notes while in a religious high control group. Literally books :)) Then I found Brandons channel, and I felt I didn't want to lose some of the very good thoughts mentioned and started to write some very short notes. And then he started his secular bible study, and his videos have so many good thoughts! I started a notebook again - this time literally the complete opposite to my devout bible notes of the last 10 years. ;) So Brandon helped me overcome my mental problem of taking down notes again. And yes.... I struggle to keep up, too. All the best to you!
I’ve listened to so much of your videos, but it’s my first time commenting! You are doing a commendable job! Your confirming a lot of what I know because at this point of my awakening, I can’t say believe because that would only suggest not knowing! I will always support and promote your content, piece ✌🏾
Ladies and Gentlemen, on this channel we get reasoned, educated (THAT's an understatement), well-thought-out, informed, honest information that (spoiler alert!) might not necessarily gibe with what you were taught (indoctrinated with) in your childhood. Brandon, THANK YOU for continuing to read the bible and showing us what it really says-without the bias of the religious perspective! Keep going! You're almost to 45K subscribers!
SATANIC LIES and UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS BRING the DISHONOR and ETERNAL DEATHS of MANKIND Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions obviously don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence... unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about - 1. hellfire 2. afterlife 3. immortality of the souls 4. Trinity 5. Armageddon 6. rapture 7. reincarnation bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, never to be seen and heard ever again on the face of the earth. The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the LIVES and EXISTENCE of HUMAN BEINGS Jesus Christ KNOWS that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great, worth, value and importance to his GOD and Father. Jesus Christ KNOWS that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and obey his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 will be gladly honored and rewarded by his GOD and Father with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD" is his GOD and Father's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
I love your videos. Each time I watch it, even though I've thought about the topic before, I see something from a fresh perspective. This one hits the mark for sure.
William Lane Craig likes to say that all those babies were actually blessed by God by having them killed since they all went directly to heaven. He seems to forget that in the OT, they were not promised a place in heaven. 🤨
Loving one's enemies is tactically and strategically unsound until they're defeated entirely. We love Germany and Japan today, for example. It would have been foolhardy to love them in 1942.
You are probably too young, but about 30 years ago, there was a talented musician by the name of Kurt Cobain. He was a millionaire with legions of adoring fans. He had a wife and a baby he dearly loved, yet his slogan was, "I hate myself and want to die." Now, if a person can be so tormented as a rock star, imagine hell, where there is only human depravity. God is love and eternity without love is hell by definition. Have you ever stolen anything or told a lie? There are no lying thieves in heaven! Yet, Christ died on a Cross so that you may be made new, born again.
@@kenshiloh _You are probably too young_ And you are evidently too prone to making baseless assumptions. Anyway, equating the very real psychological issues of Kurt Cobain to your made-up Christian horror stories sounds like a rather pointless thing to do. Which is of course fully in line with all your other contributions here.
@@dasbus9834 Just think about it logically, the cycle of cultural corruption: greatness, corruption, destruction. People can get really evil. In hell, subtract God and every form of justice (e.g. do not take the police for granted - corrupt as human justice is). You cannot say that I did not warn you. The fact is that many people are in torment as life on this earth is a small taste of hell. I am saying that the only cure is Christ. He died on a Cross so that lying thieves can be worthy of heaven. Hell is a horror story, but it is a true story! I hope you get to know Christ. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
Brandon I am loving your channel! You are definitely the most clear and articulate commentator on these issues; right up there with Harris and Hitchens! I would love to hear you breakdown and comment on Jordan Peterson’s round table discussions on Genesis and Exodus. I think that would be fascinating. Maybe an idea for future videos?
Not to turn this into a different kind of channel, but we are talking about a supposedly all-knowing all-powerful perfect being who just cannot stick to anything that he says, not even for himself, and frequently, if not always, leaves his followers - and even his own son (who apparently also believes himself to be his father) - hanging as he gathers money and power solely for himself in order to set everything on fire in the end for a completely untenable final project, only to now see that likely inadvertently, said followers are leaving him hanging in return as they continue to claim to obey everything he says, and "everything" just so happens to always involve hating anyone and everyone who ain't them and committing acts of un-aliving of people (often including themselves). Oh yeah, and there is also a book that supposedly contains this being's "divine" word and commands, only to be found out that the being had no input at all in writing it, that it was entirely written by ghostwriters that we will probably never learn the real identities of, and that none of his followers - or himself, for that matter - ever read it. Why does all of this sound familiar? And why do my eyes keep panning towards the state of New York? Are my eyes telling me something? 🤔
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 Danny was very specific. If you believe that hell is only separation from God and does not involve any actual torture, then what is there to argue against? Or do you believe it IS torture, but you refuse to call it that because it makes your feelings itchy? Better to call it separation, it sounds so much nicer than Eternal Conscious Torment, a phrase that is absolutely used to describe what the Bible says awaits us. But more to your point, sure, if you think hell is justice rather than love, then let's do it again: If letting criminals commit their crimes with impunity until they die, then punishing them afterwards with no chance of rehabilitation is what you or God call "justice", then I want nothing to do with "justice". Your definition, when we look at how God interacts with the modern world, shows clear as day that God is doing nothing to prevent crime, doing nothing to protect the innocent, and instead waits until the criminals have had their fun before finally showing up and saying that NOW is their time to be punished, after they can already do no more harm to anyone else, because they're already dead. What good is a punishment that doesn't stop bad people from doing bad things, and doesn't stop good people from getting hurt? What is even the point? To balance the karmic scales? Because the solution to pain and suffering is to cause pain and suffering back to them? Show me how that benefits ANYONE in ANY way. Even under an annihilationist view, there are no benefits to anyone. But at least then you don't also heap an infinite amount of extra harm onto the pile. Justice that doesn't benefit anyone is useless, no matter how pleasant and desirable of a word it is. Actions are what matter, not just words.
@@riluna3695 "They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 13:42 I would assume that hell isn't a fun place to be. "If letting criminals commit their crimes with impunity until they die" They have a chance to repent before they die. "punishing them afterwards with no chance of rehabilitation" Capital punishment has no rehabilitation option. "Your definition, when we look at how God interacts with the modern world, shows clear as day that God is doing nothing to prevent crime" Wrong, law enforcement is in God's service to reduce evil in the world. "For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer." Romans 13:3-4 "Justice that doesn't benefit anyone is useless" God's justice benefits people in heaven there is no sin and evil in heaven. "Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:11-15 "Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever. " Revelation 22:1-5
@heavenbound7-7-7-7 Infinite castigation for finite transgressions, total pardons by virtue of being best friends with the adjudicator's son; not what any reasonable person would consider justice.
I stand to attention to salute you. Your work here is as important and pivotal for human history and thought as was the publication of the KJV version of the Bible in 1611. You deserve some honorary doctorate degrees.
In an adult study class, we were told that the 3 acts of submission were not suggestions from Jesus, but Roman laws for conquered people and slaves. As an overlord a Roman could slap a lower class individual, demand their cloak, or demand that their bags be carried a certain distance. We were told that Jesus instructed his followers to do more than was asked of them, give twice as much, go twice as far, and treat others better than they expected. The pastor made the point that Jesus was teaching his followers how to love a neighbor and how to love an enemy. From a distance, this sounds like a good thing, but up close, it seems to me to reek of something Jesus may have said earlier in his preaching, but was re-written to fit post Roman conquering of Jerusalem. Possibly that the Jewish followers of Jesus should adopt and maintain a slave mentality in the presence of Romans, but adding the half again rule would make them look better than the Romans without being obviously offensive. Call it love.
SATANIC LIES and UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS of RELIGIONS BRING DISHONOR and ETERNAL DEATHS Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions obviously don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence... unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about - 1. hellfire 2. afterlife 3. immortality of the souls 4. Trinity 5. Armageddon 6. rapture 7. reincarnation bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, never to be seen and heard ever again on the face of the earth. The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the LIVES and EXISTENCE of HUMAN BEINGS Jesus Christ KNOWS that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great, worth, value and importance to his GOD and Father. Jesus Christ KNOWS that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and obey his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 will be gladly honored and rewarded by his GOD and Father with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD" is his GOD and Father's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854 But Biblical teachings brought harm, too. Helped exacerbate slavery... the curse of Ham... paranoia, eschatology, and division. So I'm not sure how being more biblical, = better. Also, it remains full, of sizable gaps, too. Meantime - how does any tell the true Christians, in time? And WITHOUT waiting for the fruit... If they wish, to govern others?
@@chrissonofpear1384 The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the LIVES and EXISTENCE of HUMAN BEINGS Jesus Christ KNOWS that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great, worth, value and importance to his GOD and Father. Jesus Christ KNOWS that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and obey his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 will be gladly honored and rewarded by his GOD and Father with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD" is his GOD and Father's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@MindShift-Brandon like Remember when God sent a evil spirit on king Saul, and in the Bible God punished a lot of people! The Christian God says he will never leave you or forsake you, but I do believe God does leave people, and abandon them
I almost think at times Jesus was never talking about Yahweh when he was talking about God, or Father. Something I've been curious about looking into. If you read about the origins of Yahweh... It makes sense why him, and Jesus contrasted each other so much. Another great video B. **Edit: Have to say..God hardening Pharos heart at least brought Creeping Death from Metallica.. Thank you Lawd!! 😅
SATANIC LIES and UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS BRING the DISHONOR and ETERNAL DEATHS of MANKIND Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions obviously don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence... unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about - 1. hellfire 2. afterlife 3. immortality of the souls 4. Trinity 5. Armageddon 6. rapture 7. reincarnation bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, never to be seen and heard ever again on the face of the earth. The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the LIVES and EXISTENCE of HUMAN BEINGS Jesus Christ KNOWS that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great, worth, value and importance to his GOD and Father. Jesus Christ KNOWS that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and obey his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 will be gladly honored and rewarded by his GOD and Father with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD" is his GOD and Father's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Thats the thought I alwayss had. Even if God is God, the creator of everything, should he still live up to what he requires from others, or else he proves this is all not about us, but just about him..
Love your enemies, meanwhile I will torture mine forever. So sayeth Baby Jeebus and it never came to pass as everyone ignored him. What did cometh to pass was every Christian doth so hateth whosoever they want, whenever they want. Amen.
2:48 this is most likely going to be a recurring theme when it comes to what I have to say here but different people require different things at different times. Jesus Christ was merely expressing what God the Father agrees with in a different way because it's a different era, why is He doing this? It's because if you believe that God sees the possibilities and understands that if He does this choice it goes here if He does that choice it goes there then He saw that this choice was the best choice from the perspective of a fallen world now, that's why Jesus Christ didn't immediately come right after Adam and Eve sinned.
Christian: Dad, I didn't get my chores done. Well son, it looks like you didn't fulfill my wishes. Now you can't go to the movies and I have to take you to the basement and torture you. Yes Dad. I love you son. Sure Dad. Me: Dad, I didn't get my chores done. Hmmm, I suppose you still want to go to the movies? Yes Dad. Did you fulfill your part of our bargain? No dad. What do you think you should do? If I finish my chores tomorrow, can we go then. That's a good solution son, remember to let your friends know you're going to the movies tomorrow. Okay Dad, thanks! You're welcome son and I love you. Love you too Dad. If any Christians need me to explain what the difference is between these scenarios, please let me know.
Elijah’s prayer for no rain was not just something he cooked up out of his own imagination or because he was angry at Jezebel. Rather, he was acting on the truth of the Word. He was standing firmly on the promises. His prayer and statement to King Ahab were the result of knowing and believing the promises of Scripture (cf. Deut. 11:8-32; 28:23-24 with 1 Kgs. 18:18. This shows that Elijah was relying on the principles of Deut. 11). Remember, the prophets of Baal claimed Baal-Melqart was the god of thunder, rain, and good crops. Elijah’s declaration in 1 Kings 17:1 strongly challenged the reality of their god and their faith. It showed Baal was false and impotent and that the prophets of Baal were liars. It also showed truth and salvation could only be found in the prophets of Yahweh who alone spoke for God. This is the misunderstanding of the scripture of Matthew 5:45 vs 1 Kings 17:1 one is personal the other is not. 👍❤️🙏
Forgiveness…not always. I like how Dr ramani puts it when it comes to toxic people or situations. Reaching indifference is the goal. The non-forgiveness I have for my ex doesn’t eat me up. It keeps me healthy reminding me that he is not one I can have any type of relationship with or trust him in any way.
I think a lot of good comes out of loving those who love you. Loving those that don't love you can be a very sad, abused life. Should we really waste our time loving those who don't love us?
Welcome! Thanks for being here. Just wanted to announce Tuesday will be a special episode, don’t miss!
Last night, I dreamt that I was back at the church in Mexico where I preached for about a year, but instead of preaching on the gospels behalf, I was preaching against it. Then everybody was trying to tell me how God is love. I then told them to tell that to the Midianites, the people of Jericho, Ai, Egypt, the Amlikites, and so on.
I don't remember their reaction, but that was what I dreamt.
Cant wait for the video on the teachings of jesus vs paul vs torah how the versions of god is so different, keep up the good work
I’ll be there! 😊
@FaithwalkerC37 thank you!
@@MindShift-Brandon thank you for all the effort and patience. You more then anyone knows when trying to change the world you get the push back of it. But your being the example of change you want to see, like Gandhi said " be the change you want to see" so keep up the work.
I love how god stops interacting with the world in the moment where we could actually record these things as historical true events
Lol yup!
Nothing like being whacked by an imaginary god.
Right
I’m still interacting
Because he wants you to rely on faith
"Loving your enemies" is a pretty easy thing to say when you're an omnipotent god. It's totally different when the peopls that want to harm you actually have the power to do so.
Thats a great point!
Exactly 💯
It’s kind of sad that if I was raped and tortured, I have to forgive the person who raped and torture me to begin with.. even if I was an omniscient person
@@MaidenOfHusbands You don't have to forgive anything. Forgiveness is just a christian mind f*ck to let perpetrators get away with their sins.
@@MindShift-BrandonWhy? It seems to me there is an assumption being made here that loving your enemies necessarily increases their potential for doing you harm. But why would that be the case?
I’m a lifelong agnostic, and have found much to admire and learn from on this channel. I’ve pretty much agreed with everything I’ve heard, in fact. Until today.
God somehow forgets "free will" as soon as the Israelites are in danger😂
Indeed! Lol
The game's rigged 😂
And at least half the time, he put them in danger in the first place and usually _after_ forgetting about "free will."
That’s how I know they concocted a god to suit themselves!
@@CatDaddyGuitar the game was rigged from the start
One of the Christian beliefs is being abused and persecuted brings you closer too god. And they love saying this!!
The christian persecution complex is all too real for so many unfortunately.
Well, that makes it easier to abuse people, so useful for priests.
Like how John McArthur told the wife of an abusive husband to stay with him and suffer like Jesus suffered. Last I heard the husband was sentenced to 20 years in prison.
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"christian persecution complex" should be in the DSM😆
I found out they think they are being persecuted even if you just disagree with them 🙄
Well said.
I had previously subconsciously ignored the trouble of objective morality with Jesus' teachings along the idea of "Do this for reward", as opposed to "Do this because it i right". Thank you for clearing an inconsistency that I did not even realise was hovering in my brain.
Happy to point it out!
Yes, this was such a great thing pointed out for me too. Since I left Christianity a couple years ago, I realised I felt more genuine in my interactions and how I treated other people. It came from me, because I wanted to, and not because The Bible tells me x, y, z formula etc.
“If you believe your God is all powerful, he should never have tied hands”. This statement is my biggest reason why a god like the one described in the Bible cannot exist.
If you created everything, have foreknowledge on how every outcome you create will go, and it’s within your power to create the exact reality you want, you must assume that this reality is the exact reality Bible God wanted… but that makes him a liar (which he claims never to do) for stating that it’s his desire that no one is separated from him in hell. How is that your true desire when you deliberately chose to make a world in which that isn’t possible, despite the ability to make the actual reality you wanted (aka heaven, where people will be perfect and sinless forever; demonstrating that it is a possibility despite any free will argument)…
For me, it not merely “I don’t believe in God anymore”, it’s the fact that I realized that the God of the Bible as he’s described by the “god-breathed”, infallible word, cannot exist. Such a God requires a very particular outcome in creation, which we clearly don’t have.
Exactly!
3:40 "Maybe Jesus should have studied the scriptures a bit more..." - Brandon
Jesus: Love your enemies
YHWH: Go into the city and *kill without pity or compassion*
Y'all forgot the ...(rephrased for youtube)... conscription of the women.
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"comfort women" 😞
Yahve is a mythological god of war. Jesus surely wasn't praying to that creature and nether calling him our father...
@@liepa7768 You may be interested in the "Secret Book of John". It's a Nag Hammadi text, with a completely different creation retelling... where Yahweh is the bad guy.
@@liepa7768 YHWH is the Christian, at least Jewish god.
The entire book of Joshua is about killing your enemies.
Indeed it is!
Virtually every Southern Baptist preacher, in my area, is using the book of Joshua to justify the slaying of the Palestinians and taking of their lands. They tend to ignore where this book ids the Lord, God as the SUN.
In order to steal their land.
@@harveywabbit9541 No. The Creator of the Universe, The Lord God gave the land to the people of Israel.
All the nations there in Canaan were to be severly judged for their evil, wickedness, and idolatry.
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See Deuteronomy 32.18, where the phallus (rock that begat thee) claims to be the creator.
Israel is two words of Isra/Ysra (phallus) and el (god).
Who, in their right mind, would claim that "god is the phallus" is a country?
While I think ``Loving your enemies`` is questionable advise and isn`t always wise in all circumstances I still wouldn`t wish even my worst of enemies to go to a place and burn for all eternity.
I actually agree to the general sentiment to at least _some_ degree, but for reasons that certainly hadn't ever crossed the minds of the authors of any of those scriptures. My main reason is pretty much based on my view that there isn't, and actually can't be, anything resembling what most people mean with "free will". I can't make even halfway as good a case for that view here as Sam Harris does in a couple of talks, so I won't try.
Another, smaller, but nowhere near negligible reason is how fallible we can be in our judgement, meaning that I could be seen (falsely or to _some_ degree accurately) as an "enemy" by someone else from my society, so I'd rather promote that view in case I should ever be on the receiving end. Plus of course the whole thing that rehabilitation works *_so_* much better than punishment/vengeance.
Agreed, considering the fact that people become the way that they are because of the environment around them that influences people’s mental development and perspective on things. No one has control over where they are born, and how they are molded. No one deserves eternal punishment because of circumstances. We may have control over our actions, but we never have control over how we develop, especially at a young age.
I wish my enemies would be happy and/or healthy enough to stop being @$$ holes but I don’t love them.
Right?! Why can I, a mere mortal, come up with a better system, which might include a rehabilitative approach. But, I guess that would call into question too many other concepts that are central to this controlling belief system centered on heaven/hell. Thanks to Brandon for the way he breaks these things down on this channel
I find it funny that Jesus telling us to love your enemy is not because the enemies have intrinsic value or rights as humans of different ethnicities and cultures, but because it makes the Jews have a better religious image. Essentially, it’s love your enemies because you guys are so much better and perfect that you should.
Yes the motive for much ‘good advice’ in the bible is so strange
Um, that is an interesting perspective. I think it more of the author breaking the 4th wall and encourage his readers not to resist the Roman state.
Thanks for saying that! There is much truth in what you said.
I could add that the Jews love all their enemies... except when they don't. Now is not the time for me to associate god with love. She is the Lord of War after all.
The intrinsic value of each human being is only practiced in a small geographic location. The ancient cultures of each continent did not think so. What makes you so special that your moral intuitions are self-evidently true? If so, what made the ancient cultures miss this crucial moral system?
Forget loving your enemies. This god doesn't even bother acting like the Good Samaritan. He is the Greatest Bystander in The Universe, as he watches and witnesses all the suffering in the world and does nothing.
There are many people suffering right now, dying and being persecuted, both believers and non believers, and the best he can do is supposedly send his fallen delegates rather than intervening himself. Yes let's use victims of suffering as a teachable moment for the delegates to strengthen their faith. We stop being people like this, we become products of value, defined by how great our faith is.
Great topic for another video!
I agree. That would be a great topic for another video. Looking forward!
And when people help others Christians are quick to say, “It is only because of god that you have the ability to help people!”
@@BluStarGalaxyAnd if you want to piss them off, say to them "Well apparently, 'Gawd' figured a non-believer is more deserving than a believer, seeing as how the only one _you_ help is yourself. So is it a good thing or a bad thing that 'Gawd' made me want to help others but did the opposite for your selfish narcissistic @$$?"
Beautifully said! You are right on the mark! I'm sick and tired of Jeeeeeeeezzzzzzuzzzzzz thoroughly enjoying walking and talking like an unknowably-exalted character of 'enviable' and 'teasing' mystery as he constantly pontificates and decrees hard and difficult ascetic and impossibly-altruistic things onto the backs of mankind and of his followers while receiving and demanding supreme glory and worship and reverence and praise and honor and devotion - and while he fails to acknowledge or condemn or describe or be aware of ubiquitous parental and domestic neglects and mistreatmnts and abuses of children and the profoundly destructive effects it has on children. Jeeeeeeeezzzzzzuzzzzzz is covertly a smugly-narcissistic bully-boss, contradictory and inconsistent, erratic and unpredictable, prickly and socially-unpleasant and socially-unrefined, extremist and implacable, he is frequently a big fu_k, a detestable a_shole, he is in love with himself and if he did not have the world to constantly condemn and to criticize and to find fault with he would be bored. He loves to endlessly churn his followers into seeking and building his ethereal 'kingdom of God' at the expense of their own pleasant and healthy and good sense of participatory self-fulfilment and self-actualization.
My mother used to encourage me to forgive without needing others to ask for it because holding a grudge is like poisoning yourself and hoping it will kill your enemy. And it got me thinking, “Since forgiveness is commanded and heralded as so good, why does God need us to believe in him and ask for forgiveness before he’ll forgive us?”
That was the first time I realized that the foundation of the salvation system is fundamentally flawed and God couldn’t possibly exist as described because no all powerful or omnibenevolent being would set up this system.
We are also not on the same level as God nor the Angels (the elephant in the room). And the major distinction between mortals and immortals is time itself. Time itself is the antidote to evil (what humans would describe as evil). So given enough time it is reasonable to conclude that all evil can be defeated. And if there is plenty of time there needs to be very little laws to be administered to manage and to curtail evil doings.
So then if God is immortal and immortality for the most part does the good then why around 100yrs for the human being? In the mage and likeness of god??? Hardly. I mean ok makes much more sense if we are just some sort of entertainment for the gods if arrows and bullets don't kill then my oh my there goes half the drama! The "Gods" cannot have that! Another aspect is the God(s) is just a scientist but then God is a Deity that winds up the universe and let's it play out never interfering only observing and taking notes.
From where I'm looking at it we (humans) got the short end of the divine stick. And the adulations, prayers going to such a god is really undeserved. God says NOTHING about immortality. There is violence and war and destruction and mayhem and oh yes peace as well wherein the women of the tribe hope to give birth to lots of messiahs. That's not a world that I want to imagine and live in. In reality there is space to explore (also in FDVR - because space exploration can get dangerous) and go on (peaceful) conquering (ie seeding life-less planets with life) the galaxy and universe. Plus emperor Jesus of the Milky Way Galaxy beats King of the Earth Jesus any day!
There is a bit of a problem when God's punishments are being defended as destroying evil.
When good and evil are literally defined with God as the standard, God becomes justified in doing whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
When God "destroys evil", we could just as well say he destroyed people he didn't like.
Putting the biblical God as the standard of good, only makes "good" into something horrific.
Putting God as the standard for love, only gets worse.
Only God is good.
It is of course entirely circular reasoning. Which for some reason is quite popular with people trying to defend this God - especially the OT version.
@@ralphricart3177 No. He often fails to be not outright evil.
Well said.
@@ralphricart3177was he good to the people he allowed the Israelites to enslave?
Forgiveness is such a vague word it's problematic. If I forgive someone who harmed my kids accidentally, then ok, I'm acknowledging it's not in his nature to hurt my kids and it's healthy for all to let any negative feelings go. But if someone deliberately harms my kids because it's in their nature to do so - they are cruel, want power over us ...then where does forgiveness fit in and what does it mean? I can never say "it's ok, done is done," because the deliberate cruelty wasn't and never will be ok. It's important to recognize that or we set ourselves and more importantly, our kids in this case to tolerate more of the same. So to me, forgiveness isn't even an issue. It's more letting go of anger and hatred while acknowledging that the actions of some people are not to be tolerated and taking responsibility for making sure we protect ourselves and those we love from awful, harmful people and their actions. Don't have to hate them, but don't need to - and shouldn't - say what they did was ok or even that we are ok with it now.
You cannot be forgiven unless you forgive.
@@ralphricart3177 Not true. I can forgive anyone I want, even if they're not sorry.
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I don't want the forgiveness of a hypocritical psychopath monster deity.
Your comment is brilliant and the view of which I have held for many years. Jeeeeeeeezzzzzzuzzzzzz doesn't know what the sam hell fu-k he is talking about in this and numerous other topics.
No i hear you! Its a loaded word and people take it differently. When i say forgiveness in that case, i meant letting go of the power that person had over you. Being and able and willing to move on without resentment and hate eating away at you etc. i do not believe we owe anyone forgiveness in the acceptance kind of way, but i do see amazing value in understanding the realities that lead them to where they are and not excusing the behavior but seeing it for what it is. If a tornado hit my house tomorrow, i wouldnt be angry at it or try to get it back. I wouldnt be happy about it either or wish for another. And id take the right precautions to protect myself from it in the future but again i wouldnt let it take up room in my head.
No one should be forced into eternal punishment, especially considering the fact that no asked to be born in this world in the first. I do believe it’s possible for humanity to change, but if some people don’t want to think for themselves or improve their critical thinking and understanding of things, then humanity has a long way to go before things are stabled everywhere’s.
Great video Brandan👍
Many thanks!
Brandon, I would love a series where you show how a story in the Bible could not have happened, because of what we know in Archeology. Anytime someone mentions Exodus and the ridiculous Egyptian story, I roll my eyes so hard I get a headache. The date for the Exodus that the Bible gives, with help from 1 Kings 6:1, is 1446/7 BCE. This puts it smack dab in the 18th dynasty and the reign of Thutmose III, and the story in the Bible does align with archeology from that time.
Exodus 12:37-38 informs us there were 600,000 men who left Egypt. Add in the wives, children, elderly, and tag-alongs and a conservative estimate is 2.5 million. Further, population estimates for Egypt at that time are less than 4 million. So we'd expect to see a loss of over 1/2 the population... almost all the workforce. Further, there's the plagues. The Nile turns to blood, disease, famine, death by hail, death of livestock, death of the firstborn. Hundreds of thousands, if not more, would have died from famine and other plagues. Then, you have pharaoh's entire army (Exodus 14:9) getting destroyed in the Red Sea... so that's the loss of an entire army and more of the population. It even seems the pharaoh himself may be dead (14:28)
So a world power goes from ~ 4,000,000 to easily below 1,500,000... including their entire work force and entire army. And it appears pharaoh himself may be dead.
What evidence is there of this happening in archeology? Nothing. Which also means, the tablets with the Ten Commandments story and the Ark of the Covenant is also pure fiction.
Yes. I love videos like that too. Holy koolaid has the best i have ever seen with nothing fails like bible history.
@@MindShift-Brandon Oh yes.. I forgot about him. Have to go over to his channel and see if he's posting. He slowed up a bit.
The 600,000 men who leave Egypt (winter) are six signs of the Mazzaroth. The firstborn of the Hebrews, wears ram horns and like Abel, he is called the grazer.
@@harveywabbit9541 Ah, of course, more magic - the Jewish Zodiac.
@@stevenpike7857
There is no Jewish zodiac.
Another well thought out, well researched, logical video with a professional delivery.
The religious zealots must hate you.
Lol! Thanks
I just have to thank you for the Secular Bible Study series. I’m going through it for the 2nd time now and I probably understand the book better than my friends who are believers.
So glad to hear it! Thanks
Do as I say, not do as I do!
Yup! Gods golden rule lol
Your channel is addictive man 😂❤
Ha! Well i dont hate to hear that! Thanks for being here
:) Hey Brandon. Happy Sunday! If only more believers can see and understand that the God they worship is NOT the God that is written in their holy book. That is the lie. This understanding is what woke me up.
You are correct.
Hey, Barbara! Agreed. So important to really see the character of this myth god.
Thank you much for your word of knowledge this fine Sunday morning!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching
😂
I used to wonder why they switched from " kill em all" to love em all, but now it makes perfect sense if you're going to control the masses, you don't want them rising up against you, so you tell them God himself gave you this authority and so the same rules apply... love me or die.
Agreed
Your timing on this is so ridiculously splendid, one of my friends is keeping herself in a bad situation out of fear that she's sinning by not loving her enemies. I've deconstructed, but she hasn't. I can't exactly tell her "the Bible is bullshit dude", so I'm glad you're here actually wading through the text! Ty, great video as always
So sad! Hope she sees the light
Excellent examples of how crazy the literal interpreters of bible myth are.
Thanks!
As a believer, it became so exhausting trying to make this make sense. Especially because i was an evangelist, so these things came up often.
I remember one gentleman asked such a simple question, it was actually profound. He asked, "Why can't God just forgive?"
I think i said something about God is just, and sin can't go unpunished.
But that doesn't really make sense either, because God is the arbiter of morality. So, if God just forgave us, that WOULD be justice.
Great video, as always.
Thank you! And yes i love that question
"So, if God just forgave us, that WOULD be justice."
If somebody murdered ten people cold blood but the judge just said "I forgive you go free and murder more", in your opinion would this be a wicked or a good judge?
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 If he said "I forgive you because I killed an innocent dude last week instead", everyone would consider this as a grave injustice. Yet for some reason that's your pitch - and then you call it "righteous" 😂
@heavenbound7-7-7-7 in my opinion, a wicked judge! But I'm a mere mortal, what God says goes
@@MidwestFella854
I'm glad you agree that If God just forgave us that would be justice is actually wickedness not justice.
Indignation becomes you!! HAHA! You stab to the core--thank you.
You are correct.
Lol! Thanks
Haven't watched the video yet, but the answer is NO. But then again, does he follow any of his own rules? Now, I will continue watching! Thanks for the amazing content
Appreciate that! And lol, correct
brand...dude!!!😂 you always know how to hit that NAIL bru. I luv it!!😊
LoL no pun intended "hit the nail"😂?
Yup I agree 👍
Love this. Thank you!
God makes it very clear that if you are his enemy, he will destroy you. He's either a liar or a hypocrite.
He is an imaginary being.
Bingo ! there u go..the biblical God and the people who wrote the bible stories are very inconsistent..and so are every other religion, so many hypocritical traits is too obvious, Brandon explained very well 😅
@@2pacaveli257
Doesn't matter...the suckers will do anything to get to the mythical Heaven.
Lying, killing, subversion of our legal system, etc., is acceptable if it means life after death.
There’s a difference in moving on and forgiving someone. I shouldn’t have to forgive someone for doing something messed up to me or my family or anyone I care about, or even someone I don’t care about. I should be allowed to move on, but I shouldn’t have to forgive them. Forgiving someone is a completely different thing than just moving on or accepting what happened
Something that crossed my mind is people says God didn't want us to be robots and have to have free will, well if you read the book God wants us to be slaves unto him - Logic
Also to address your video: yup throw the standards right back at God! and he failed to practice what he preaches! Can God forgive me for no longer been a Christian! if no then he can't practice what he preaches
100%!
You will never know the mind of God. It's pointless to try.
Apparently the value of free will, is just another form of sacrifice. The valuation of the free will, is only important until we decide to follow God.
And if we don't follow God, of what value is free will then?
@ralphricart3177 We may not know the mind of this so-called God, but we do know the mind of its followers. They tend to stay watching atheist content far more than believer content. Wonder why that is? 🤔
Excellent points!
4 Edras talks about your ideas. The author struggles with the idea if God is merciful. He asks if God does not forgive people without them performing religious acts, how can he be merciful.
As always, GOLDEN presentation Brandon. I think this video would have been an excellent time to toss in Luke 19:27 which reads “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-bring them here and kill them in front of me.” Where’s the “love thine enemies as your neighbor” in those words spoken by Jesus?
Well said.
Yes! Lots of NT examples i left out! But ill get to cover that verse this Thursday. Thanks for adding it in.
Doing everything the Bible says and waiting for something good to happen because Jesus said it would bring you a reward is a lifestyle that too many people fall victim to. I'm so glad I'm out of that ridiculous mindset. It achieves nothing except wasting your own time, passing up on life opportunities, pushing away potential friends...
Thank you for these videos, Brandon. They're all very validating
So you're back in the wilderness!?
@@ralphricart3177 what?
Glad to help normalize! Spot on
@@darthskele I mean the unforgiving wilderness, away from God.
@@ralphricart3177 everything about God was unforgiving. Everything that I am, all the people I had to grow up with, the hollow, holier than thou people, the hypocrisy of their actions, the way I lost out on time, the way it damaged my psyche.
I have been happier and more in control of myself now that I'm not worried about God's wrath every waking second. You can call it a wilderness, I call it peace
The rain it raineth on the just
And also on the unjust fella;
But mainly on the just, because
The unjust stole the just's umbrella
Excellent video again, Brandon. You help me every time you post a new video. It's sometimes difficult to deconvert when the majority of your friends are, or think they sre, christians. I'm slowly trying to let my christian friends learn that I no longer am a christian but saying that I will keep them in my thoughts when they ask me to pray for them. Eventually I'll get to the point where I will be able to tell them.
Glad to help! It is so very hard to come out. I get it!
I am right there with you... de-converted and "surrounded" by friends and family who are Christians. I've only told two so far, my sister and a buddy of mine. Give it time and allow yourself space. The time will present itself as to when to share. Like Brandon says at the end of each video, Keep Thinking.
A Jewish lady on paltalk once said,"that loving your enemies is committing suicide". Because even if you love your enemies they are still going to hate you. Especially if they are evil or bad people that are bent on your destruction. Unless your dealing with an enemy. That if you love will become your friend.
I love your rants! Gets me all worked up. lol
Lol! Thanks for watching
Enemy of God = Enemy of the Lying Rabbi/Priest.
I just have to pause the video and say your editing skills and presentation within your videos are outstanding, Brandon!! It's so easy to read the verses etc within the left hand box, your logo at the top and you on the right, it looks so professional and is so effective. Even on a mobile phone. Gee, l don't know how you find the time to do all this 😮, but it is appreciated and noticed. 🎉🎉🎉 Not to mention the content.....❤
This was a really good video. I appreciate your calm rational approach to this. Very well explained.
I love this channel,Brandon is one of the best explaining God and the Bible you make me open my eyes so much keep it up man you the best
Thanks so much!
I absolutely love how you wrapped this one up. About Forgiveness aside from the Bible and what its truly about. Not just some commandment, but genuine release of your hangups on bad thoughts. Wonderful work as usual Brandon!
Appreciate that and you making it to the end!
@MindShift-Brandon you make it all too easy bro!
Hello Brandon, I'm not new to visiting your channel, but I've been doing a lot of catch up viewing over the last month or two (so new-ish). Your presentation of yourself is fascinating, in that you seem to have a very doggedly logical focus. Yet you still address the emotionally frustrating aspects of the Christian religion, and vocalize many things in a kind of dispassionately passionate way.
I've been drawn to your channel because of the ruthless logic that you employ to eviscerate confusing aspects of the Bible, the contradictions, and hypocrisy of the character of God. I like that you say in a measured way things that my own mind has been screaming inside my head for a decade and more; "It's unfair." "It's unjust." "This is not the actions of a loving God." One of my favorites are in light of the definition of God as all powerful, all knowing, and all good; and you put the charge on God; "This is God's responsibility, not my problem" is really quite refreshing to hear, I don't think I've thought that one myself, in the to-the-point way you say it.
I like how you address mental well-being and a need for self-confidence balance with self-reflection; not going overboard with the practice of self-flagellation. I have to wonder sometimes if it's even dangerous to read to Bible and saturate oneself with toxic thought processes.
One of the things that is most frustrating is the impression that God (and his followers) will always give credit to God for anything good that the human race accomplishes (something about atheists are still doing good in God's name, or something like that); and humans get the blame for anything bad that happens, and God's responsibility for bad things is ignored or glossed over or explained away. It's only in recent years that I have been aware of that very damning Bible quote where God does take credit for creating evil.
Do you have any videos that address that tendency to give credit for all good things away to God, and trying to make sure that only the human race shoulders the blame for anything bad?
Thank you for doing your videos; the time and work that you put into them.
Holy cow! What an amazing and meaningful response. Thank you dearly for taking the time to provide such useful and encouraging feedback. The closest video i have to your topic is this one, When Tragedy Strikes: Critiquing Harmful Christian Responses
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@@MindShift-Brandon Thanks! I'll visit the video you suggest, see if it is familiar or if it is completely new to me.
Good morning (if that's ur time) looking forward to this one!
Glad to hear it. Mornin!
Thanks for your intelligent comments about those Bible verses. Another thoughtful presentation.
Thanks, Duane!
Excellent point at 15:57, I just never thought of it like that before. It really shows how messed up an all powerful god would be to do that.
Always glad to shine a light!
@@MindShift-Brandon
The Canaanite's crime wasn't that they sacrificed their children to Moloch among other horrendous things they did?
Thanks for this one today .This was at the forefront on the beginnings of my journey. I don't think forgiveness is necessarily an automatic, simple or easy thing, in reality. I used to think I was a bad person if I didn't forgive regardless of whatever harm someone caused. I've worked on forgiving myself most especially, and at least letting things go so that they no longer affect my life in a negative way. It can be more beneficial when you need to accept that you must move ahead even when you don't get an apology, which can certainly happen. One of many things that has been incredibly helpful to me in all these years is developing boundaries. Some people may dislike you for having them. I can be a loving, caring, helpful human being with values, but I've had to learn to thicken my skin quite a bit. Looking forward to the next one. I have a few friends who I think could benefit from your channel and I've let them know about it.
Appreciate all that very much!
Well Done again. To Paraphrase "he continues to work in a human way" , That is always my overriding takeaway. Keep them coming!
the Lord himself should NEVER be forgiven for everything he's put his entire creation through.
I absolutely love the idea of combining several videos by their common theme. Whatever you do - do more of that!
Can’t wait for the next installment of God: The Anatomy.
Thanks, Boris! And yes i promise to return to that series also!
Frig, the quality of your content AND volume is outstanding. I look forward to every video drop you do 👏 👏 👏
So glad to hear that! Its very encouraging to know.
You are so right - nuance is lacking here and boundaries are important.
This was one of the BEST videos yet 👏🏼
Thanks, Hannah!
Yeah it's so convenient when the Christian says, but God will torture you because he loves you! See? So loving. With that kind of love, who needs enemies.
Separation from God (hell) isn't love it's justice, do you want grace or justice?
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 I just want to be happy and think I should be treated with dignity and respect.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
You don't find happiness by living in sin and separated from your maker, God treats you with dignity and gives you a choice to live with him or separated from him in all eternity (this is called by definition hell).
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 Who said anything about sin? It's not about sin. Christianity is the place to be if you want to sin. Why do you think there's such abuse problems in the most serious high control Christian communities.
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 I would LOVE to be eternally separated from a guy who thinks I should learn to be happy telling a genocidal maniac how great he is and how awful I am for all eternity. Who threatens me and treats me like garbage like a domestic abusive husband.
Excellent! Thank you for your good work Brandon!
Thank you!
That god is such a mysterious fella.
I'm probably out of place saying this, but this why I personally like the simplicity and dare I say the reason of Deism. God is a force of nature and not a person in the way we think that isn't bothered by our silly creature thoughts, habits and actions, it is above such things. Religions like any other man-made construct complicates things and we are victims of our own structures and inflated self importance. As flawed as human agency is, there are, as you say, healthy boundaries and nuance when it comes to enemies or just life in general. The bible seems to be a guide on how to justify crappy behavior while being righteous at the same time. Just my thoughts.
I know it's not the main point of the video but I think you brought out a really good point I never really thought about. The NT is full of reward-driven commandments. It breeds selfishness, despite its focus on doing good things for other people. It's all about doing good things so that you get a reward instead of doing them because it's a nice thing to do. It doesn't focus on empathy and understanding, just "what can I get out of this". I wonder if that would make a good video on its own, just talking about how selfish the NT morality and "works" are. Of course it kinda makes sense though. The NT mindset was that the end was coming very soon so affecting the wider society in a good way wasn't a concern. It was bettering yourself and ensuring the best outcome for yourself in the afterlife.
Exactly!
So much fantastic information Brandon. My only complaint is the fact that I take notes of your shows and I’m starting to fall behind lol keep up the great work.
:) This is a lovely comment. It shows how good these videos are.
After leaving my church I had difficulties to write down notes on the bible in any form. My mind just couldn't. (I wrote sooo many notes while in a religious high control group. Literally books :))
Then I found Brandons channel, and I felt I didn't want to lose some of the very good thoughts mentioned and started to write some very short notes.
And then he started his secular bible study, and his videos have so many good thoughts!
I started a notebook again - this time literally the complete opposite to my devout bible notes of the last 10 years. ;)
So Brandon helped me overcome my mental problem of taking down notes again.
And yes.... I struggle to keep up, too.
All the best to you!
Ha! Thanks man. A positive problem i hope!
I’ve listened to so much of your videos, but it’s my first time commenting!
You are doing a commendable job! Your confirming a lot of what I know because at this point of my awakening, I can’t say believe because that would only suggest not knowing!
I will always support and promote your content, piece ✌🏾
So glad to hear from you! And thank you so much for the support!
Ladies and Gentlemen, on this channel we get reasoned, educated (THAT's an understatement), well-thought-out, informed, honest information that (spoiler alert!) might not necessarily gibe with what you were taught (indoctrinated with) in your childhood. Brandon, THANK YOU for continuing to read the bible and showing us what it really says-without the bias of the religious perspective! Keep going! You're almost to 45K subscribers!
SATANIC LIES and UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS BRING the DISHONOR and ETERNAL DEATHS of MANKIND
Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
obviously
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence...
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about -
1. hellfire
2. afterlife
3. immortality of the souls
4. Trinity
5. Armageddon
6. rapture
7. reincarnation
bring
them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, never to be seen and heard ever again on the face of the earth.
The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the LIVES and EXISTENCE of HUMAN BEINGS
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great, worth, value and importance to his GOD and Father.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and obey his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
will
be gladly honored and rewarded by his GOD and Father with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD"
is
his GOD and Father's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity
under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Very kind! Thanks very much
Beautiful Brandon, thank you again❤
My pleasure. Thanks for being here!
Whoo hoo 🙌🏼🎉
Love it. Thanks!
I love your videos. Each time I watch it, even though I've thought about the topic before, I see something from a fresh perspective. This one hits the mark for sure.
Love to hear it. Thanks, man!
Excellent episode! Keep them coming.
Will do and thanks!
Hey, happy vlogversary! Appreciate all you do.
Thanks so much! Excited to share how the last year has gone on Tuesday
William Lane Craig likes to say that all those babies were actually blessed by God by having them killed since they all went directly to heaven. He seems to forget that in the OT, they were not promised a place in heaven. 🤨
WLC is probably the most sophisticated charlatan of the 20th century.
William Lane Craig made it acceptable to kill babies.
Loving one's enemies is tactically and strategically unsound until they're defeated entirely.
We love Germany and Japan today, for example. It would have been foolhardy to love them in 1942.
More sensible comment from Brandon. Isn't the internet wonderful. I can listen from the other side of the world.
Amazing video bro. Excellent work
Appreciate that very much, thanks!
This God didn't even manage to love his chosen people.
God is El Sicko.
Right! If your favorites can’t be loved, what chance do your enemies have!
You are probably too young, but about 30 years ago, there was a talented musician by the name of Kurt Cobain. He was a millionaire with legions of adoring fans. He had a wife and a baby he dearly loved, yet his slogan was, "I hate myself and want to die." Now, if a person can be so tormented as a rock star, imagine hell, where there is only human depravity. God is love and eternity without love is hell by definition.
Have you ever stolen anything or told a lie? There are no lying thieves in heaven! Yet, Christ died on a Cross so that you may be made new, born again.
@@kenshiloh _You are probably too young_
And you are evidently too prone to making baseless assumptions. Anyway, equating the very real psychological issues of Kurt Cobain to your made-up Christian horror stories sounds like a rather pointless thing to do. Which is of course fully in line with all your other contributions here.
@@dasbus9834 Just think about it logically, the cycle of cultural corruption: greatness, corruption, destruction. People can get really evil. In hell, subtract God and every form of justice (e.g. do not take the police for granted - corrupt as human justice is). You cannot say that I did not warn you. The fact is that many people are in torment as life on this earth is a small taste of hell. I am saying that the only cure is Christ. He died on a Cross so that lying thieves can be worthy of heaven. Hell is a horror story, but it is a true story! I hope you get to know Christ.
Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
Another excellent video Brandon :)
Thanks, Peter!
Thanks for another great video!
My pleasure. Thanks!
Brandon I am loving your channel! You are definitely the most clear and articulate commentator on these issues; right up there with Harris and Hitchens! I would love to hear you breakdown and comment on Jordan Peterson’s round table discussions on Genesis and Exodus. I think that would be fascinating. Maybe an idea for future videos?
Not to turn this into a different kind of channel, but we are talking about a supposedly all-knowing all-powerful perfect being who just cannot stick to anything that he says, not even for himself, and frequently, if not always, leaves his followers - and even his own son (who apparently also believes himself to be his father) - hanging as he gathers money and power solely for himself in order to set everything on fire in the end for a completely untenable final project, only to now see that likely inadvertently, said followers are leaving him hanging in return as they continue to claim to obey everything he says, and "everything" just so happens to always involve hating anyone and everyone who ain't them and committing acts of un-aliving of people (often including themselves). Oh yeah, and there is also a book that supposedly contains this being's "divine" word and commands, only to be found out that the being had no input at all in writing it, that it was entirely written by ghostwriters that we will probably never learn the real identities of, and that none of his followers - or himself, for that matter - ever read it.
Why does all of this sound familiar? And why do my eyes keep panning towards the state of New York? Are my eyes telling me something? 🤔
Your comment is brilliant!
Congratulations on 1 year on youtube! You're amazing!
Thank you so much!!
If torturing your enemies for all of eternity is "love" then I want nothing to do with "love."
Separation from God (hell) isn't love it's justice, do you want grace or justice?
Indeed!
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 Danny was very specific. If you believe that hell is only separation from God and does not involve any actual torture, then what is there to argue against? Or do you believe it IS torture, but you refuse to call it that because it makes your feelings itchy? Better to call it separation, it sounds so much nicer than Eternal Conscious Torment, a phrase that is absolutely used to describe what the Bible says awaits us.
But more to your point, sure, if you think hell is justice rather than love, then let's do it again: If letting criminals commit their crimes with impunity until they die, then punishing them afterwards with no chance of rehabilitation is what you or God call "justice", then I want nothing to do with "justice".
Your definition, when we look at how God interacts with the modern world, shows clear as day that God is doing nothing to prevent crime, doing nothing to protect the innocent, and instead waits until the criminals have had their fun before finally showing up and saying that NOW is their time to be punished, after they can already do no more harm to anyone else, because they're already dead.
What good is a punishment that doesn't stop bad people from doing bad things, and doesn't stop good people from getting hurt? What is even the point? To balance the karmic scales? Because the solution to pain and suffering is to cause pain and suffering back to them? Show me how that benefits ANYONE in ANY way. Even under an annihilationist view, there are no benefits to anyone. But at least then you don't also heap an infinite amount of extra harm onto the pile.
Justice that doesn't benefit anyone is useless, no matter how pleasant and desirable of a word it is. Actions are what matter, not just words.
@@riluna3695
"They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 13:42
I would assume that hell isn't a fun place to be.
"If letting criminals commit their crimes with impunity until they die"
They have a chance to repent before they die.
"punishing them afterwards with no chance of rehabilitation"
Capital punishment has no rehabilitation option.
"Your definition, when we look at how God interacts with the modern world, shows clear as day that God is doing nothing to prevent crime"
Wrong, law enforcement is in God's service to reduce evil in the world.
"For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer." Romans 13:3-4
"Justice that doesn't benefit anyone is useless"
God's justice benefits people in heaven there is no sin and evil in heaven.
"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:11-15
"Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever. " Revelation 22:1-5
@heavenbound7-7-7-7 Infinite castigation for finite transgressions, total pardons by virtue of being best friends with the adjudicator's son; not what any reasonable person would consider justice.
Thanks for doing this.
My pleasure.
Yeay🎉
Thanks, Stephanie!
I stand to attention to salute you. Your work here is as important and pivotal for human history and thought as was the publication of the KJV version of the Bible in 1611. You deserve some honorary doctorate degrees.
Depending on your opinion on MURDER,...this God is AWESOME.
If you have a negative stance on MURDER,...this God is horrible LOL
Lol!
In an adult study class, we were told that the 3 acts of submission were not suggestions from Jesus, but Roman laws for conquered people and slaves. As an overlord a Roman could slap a lower class individual, demand their cloak, or demand that their bags be carried a certain distance. We were told that Jesus instructed his followers to do more than was asked of them, give twice as much, go twice as far, and treat others better than they expected. The pastor made the point that Jesus was teaching his followers how to love a neighbor and how to love an enemy. From a distance, this sounds like a good thing, but up close, it seems to me to reek of something Jesus may have said earlier in his preaching, but was re-written to fit post Roman conquering of Jerusalem. Possibly that the Jewish followers of Jesus should adopt and maintain a slave mentality in the presence of Romans, but adding the half again rule would make them look better than the Romans without being obviously offensive. Call it love.
SATANIC LIES and UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS of RELIGIONS BRING DISHONOR and ETERNAL DEATHS
Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
obviously
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence...
unbothered and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about -
1. hellfire
2. afterlife
3. immortality of the souls
4. Trinity
5. Armageddon
6. rapture
7. reincarnation
bring
them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, never to be seen and heard ever again on the face of the earth.
The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the LIVES and EXISTENCE of HUMAN BEINGS
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great, worth, value and importance to his GOD and Father.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and obey his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
will
be gladly honored and rewarded by his GOD and Father with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD"
is
his GOD and Father's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity
under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854 But Biblical teachings brought harm, too.
Helped exacerbate slavery... the curse of Ham... paranoia, eschatology, and division.
So I'm not sure how being more biblical, = better.
Also, it remains full, of sizable gaps, too.
Meantime - how does any tell the true Christians, in time? And WITHOUT waiting for the fruit...
If they wish, to govern others?
@@chrissonofpear1384 The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the LIVES and EXISTENCE of HUMAN BEINGS
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great, worth, value and importance to his GOD and Father.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and obey his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
will
be gladly honored and rewarded by his GOD and Father with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD"
is
his GOD and Father's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity
under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@Mindshift-Brandon can you do a video about God abandonment?
Can you explain further?
@@MindShift-Brandon like Remember when God sent a evil spirit on king Saul, and in the Bible God punished a lot of people! The Christian God says he will never leave you or forsake you, but I do believe God does leave people, and abandon them
I almost think at times Jesus was never talking about Yahweh when he was talking about God, or Father. Something I've been curious about looking into. If you read about the origins of Yahweh... It makes sense why him, and Jesus contrasted each other so much. Another great video B.
**Edit: Have to say..God hardening Pharos heart at least brought Creeping Death from Metallica.. Thank you Lawd!! 😅
SATANIC LIES and UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS BRING the DISHONOR and ETERNAL DEATHS of MANKIND
Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
obviously
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence...
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about -
1. hellfire
2. afterlife
3. immortality of the souls
4. Trinity
5. Armageddon
6. rapture
7. reincarnation
bring
them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, never to be seen and heard ever again on the face of the earth.
The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the LIVES and EXISTENCE of HUMAN BEINGS
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great, worth, value and importance to his GOD and Father.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all persons on earth who willingly submit to his authority and obey his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
will
be gladly honored and rewarded by his GOD and Father with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that his teaching about the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD"
is
his GOD and Father's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity
under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Yeah, Marcion's view makes a lot more sense than the mess we've got today.
Can you make a video explaining/debunking spiritual gifts? For example word of knowledge and stuff like that
On the list. Thanks
Yeah that's a good one. No such thing as tongues or faith healing etc. all a bunch of delusional B.S.
Thats the thought I alwayss had. Even if God is God, the creator of everything, should he still live up to what he requires from others, or else he proves this is all not about us, but just about him..
Love your enemies, meanwhile I will torture mine forever. So sayeth Baby Jeebus and it never came to pass as everyone ignored him.
What did cometh to pass was every Christian doth so hateth whosoever they want, whenever they want. Amen.
2:48 this is most likely going to be a recurring theme when it comes to what I have to say here but different people require different things at different times.
Jesus Christ was merely expressing what God the Father agrees with in a different way because it's a different era, why is He doing this? It's because if you believe that God sees the possibilities and understands that if He does this choice it goes here if He does that choice it goes there then He saw that this choice was the best choice from the perspective of a fallen world now, that's why Jesus Christ didn't immediately come right after Adam and Eve sinned.
Christian: Dad, I didn't get my chores done. Well son, it looks like you didn't fulfill my wishes. Now you can't go to the movies and I have to take you to the basement and torture you. Yes Dad. I love you son. Sure Dad.
Me: Dad, I didn't get my chores done. Hmmm, I suppose you still want to go to the movies? Yes Dad. Did you fulfill your part of our bargain? No dad. What do you think you should do? If I finish my chores tomorrow, can we go then. That's a good solution son, remember to let your friends know you're going to the movies tomorrow. Okay Dad, thanks! You're welcome son and I love you. Love you too Dad.
If any Christians need me to explain what the difference is between these scenarios, please let me know.
Elijah’s prayer for no rain was not just something he cooked up out of his own imagination or because he was angry at Jezebel. Rather, he was acting on the truth of the Word. He was standing firmly on the promises. His prayer and statement to King Ahab were the result of knowing and believing the promises of Scripture (cf. Deut. 11:8-32; 28:23-24 with 1 Kgs. 18:18. This shows that Elijah was relying on the principles of Deut. 11). Remember, the prophets of Baal claimed Baal-Melqart was the god of thunder, rain, and good crops. Elijah’s declaration in 1 Kings 17:1 strongly challenged the reality of their god and their faith. It showed Baal was false and impotent and that the prophets of Baal were liars. It also showed truth and salvation could only be found in the prophets of Yahweh who alone spoke for God. This is the misunderstanding of the scripture of Matthew 5:45 vs 1 Kings 17:1 one is personal the other is not. 👍❤️🙏
And Bleezus said, “Bleef®️in me is grief for thee.” Dudeisontome 23:1
Forgiveness…not always. I like how Dr ramani puts it when it comes to toxic people or situations. Reaching indifference is the goal. The non-forgiveness I have for my ex doesn’t eat me up. It keeps me healthy reminding me that he is not one I can have any type of relationship with or trust him in any way.
Excellent!
Thank you!
Masterful.
Thank you!
I think a lot of good comes out of loving those who love you. Loving those that don't love you can be a very sad, abused life. Should we really waste our time loving those who don't love us?
Brandon Brilliant one 👍🏼
I think you should sell Transcripts of your episodes. I am going to watch Mark for the third time now.
Good morning bro 🌄
Hey hey!
Once again Brandon awesome job.😊
Thanks, Brad!