Good news, Gilded Age fans! In the time since this episode was recorded HBO announced that The Gilded Age will be returning for Season 3 🎉 What storyline are you looking forward to seeing more of?
I would like to see Thomas Edison again. (Perhaps as part of Jack's story?) Edison was deaf, to which he credited his success. However, I've never seen his deafness depicted on screen.
Thank you for your weekly discussions. Enjoyed them greatly. Your information also enhanced my recent Christmas tour of Clayton, as I noticed things that I did not on previous tours. (I am so fortunate to be local.) Looking forward to Season 3.
Thanks again for your wonderful commentary - a nice mix of additional information (Sarah Garnet's social reforms, the House of Worth) and fun (Can Gladys resist "she who must be obeyed" (Bertha)! Larian! Ada in the driver's seat!). Hard to wait another year for season 3.
The society crowd didn't start the balls until 10 or 11 pm, that's why they would host a breakfast at 3 am. It's like going to Waffle House after you went clubbing. Plus they didn't have to get up in the morning to go to the office. I just wonder about the staff, did they have a night and day crew? They would have to prepare the house, food, and the host family before the party and clean up afterwards. I can't imagine that the servants could stay awake for all that!
I also think that Ada will now provide Marion with a healthy dowry, which will make Marion a much better position, lineage and a dowry....Ada is much more generous than Agnes, who wouldn't spend her husbands money on a dowry....so I hope she gives Marion a killer dowry.
Do you think so? I'd think it might be the opposite. Agnes, with her focus on the old ways and maintaining the status quo, seems to me like she'd be the one to sweeten Marian's marital pot with a hefty dowry. Whereas Ada, on the other hand, is the kinder, more understanding of the sisters and feels like she would.want her niece to marry for love above all else, just as she did. Although I could see Ada providing a dowry after a love match was already made because she's generous as well.
@@carag2567 do you remember in the first season Agnes told her sister that she couldn't give her a dowry from the Van Ryan money, I don't know the dutch spelling of that last name, sorry, it was all her son's.....she gave her an allowance, but nothing on the scale of a dowry....back then a dowry would be so much a year, a couple could actually live on most of them, or one lump sum which they could draw on throughout the year....Vanderbilt gave his daughter who married the duke in real life, money and shares, a lot of them in the railroad....in today's money millions....the Van Ryan's of course isn't that rich....remember in real life the dowry saved the estate....it is still going strong today....
Brauva Ladies!! Really enjoyed the jaunty jib-jabb through the Gilded Age with you all. You're fun, bright and excited about the topic which makes you all so much fun to watch and listen to! Two points about the 19th Century (and before) though: 1) the term "Dance until Dawn" came from the fact that people did stay up all night for dinners, dances and balls. Often there was a dinner first at 8, followed by a ball beginning at 10 or 11 (if it followed the opera), so breakfast at 3 isn't so late in that context; and remember, this is before electric light. If you were out on an estate property, the roads weren't lit. All you had was the stars...if you were lucky. Accidents, highwaymen and wild animals were all too real along the way. Better to stay inside where it's warm and safe, eat hearty and drink enough to sleep in broad daylight in your carriage! 2) An engagement, once accepted, was almost a criminal act to break off. It was serious business, even if you had the decision made for you. Bertha will have a scandal worthy of it's name if she doesn't deliver the goods. Gladys is (sadly) just collateral damage.
Prediction: Larry and Marion may not be able to get together right away because Susan Blain will reappear pregnant with Larry’s child. Mr Fellows likes to throw in these kinds of twists.
And maybe they will explain Mr. McAllister’s line of Mrs. Blaine preferring not to live in NYC but all the while Mrs. Blaine complains about being stuck in the Newport house.
Should we be worried that Oscar was not present for Aunt Ada's big announcement at the end? If everyone was waiting for Marian, shouldn't they have waited for Oscar too? His absence was conspicuous.
We used to call staying out all night and walking in the clothes you had on the night before the walk of shame. Somehow it seems so respectable in the gilded age.
Let's see... Bertha will meet her match...again George's railroad dealing with hit a roadblock Gladys' ended up pawn of arrange marriage to Royalty Larry's relationship with Marian is facing obstacles between them Anges ended up on the sidelines as Ada got money Peggy's personal career even her own might comes on the stand still Even Ms Astor might be somewhat of judgement on new money Need new historical characters as well
I love Marion and Larry together, but I do wonder if he's maybe a bit too unfocused still. He got involved with a client and it doesn't appear he even finished the job, so he's going to have to step up a bit and establish himself before he's worthy of Marion. He needs to be making his own money and his own way before he gets a wife. I really hope that happens in S3, because I really want them to be together. Gladys...poor thing...I really feel like she's headed for a cliff there...sidenote though, Consuelo Vanderbilt was born in 1977 and it's 1883 in the show isn't it? She'd be 6. lol
Good news, Gilded Age fans! In the time since this episode was recorded HBO announced that The Gilded Age will be returning for Season 3 🎉 What storyline are you looking forward to seeing more of?
Woo Hoo!! 🎉🎩🚂
I would like to see Thomas Edison again. (Perhaps as part of Jack's story?) Edison was deaf, to which he credited his success. However, I've never seen his deafness depicted on screen.
The Worth dress that the teal dress was based on looked like Bertha’s dress for Gladys’ Coming Out party.
Gladys seems aware when she quotes Faust to Duke.
I'm hoping Oscar can somehow track down Maude Beeton--and more Oscar/John Adams!
Can't wait to recap next season with all of you. In excited for Peggy and the black elite as well as Ada ruling the house
Thank you so much for this “podcast”! I don’t know anyone who watches this show so it is great to listen to all your perspectives!!!🎉❤
Thank you for your weekly discussions. Enjoyed them greatly. Your information also enhanced my recent Christmas tour of Clayton, as I noticed things that I did not on previous tours. (I am so fortunate to be local.) Looking forward to Season 3.
Thanks again for your wonderful commentary - a nice mix of additional information (Sarah Garnet's social reforms, the House of Worth) and fun (Can Gladys resist "she who must be obeyed" (Bertha)! Larian! Ada in the driver's seat!). Hard to wait another year for season 3.
Another wonderful series of podcasts, ladies! Thank you. See you in season 3!! 🎩🚂
The society crowd didn't start the balls until 10 or 11 pm, that's why they would host a breakfast at 3 am. It's like going to Waffle House after you went clubbing. Plus they didn't have to get up in the morning to go to the office. I just wonder about the staff, did they have a night and day crew? They would have to prepare the house, food, and the host family before the party and clean up afterwards. I can't imagine that the servants could stay awake for all that!
Maybe my favorite line in the whole show: Jack, after Agnes gives him $5 for his patent application, "People can surprise you, can't they?"
Thanks for a great Gilded Age talk and I am looking forward to next season ❤
I wonder if George allows Bertha to force Gladys into a marriage with the Duke in exchange for letting Larry marry for love.
I also think that Ada will now provide Marion with a healthy dowry, which will make Marion a much better position, lineage and a dowry....Ada is much more generous than Agnes, who wouldn't spend her husbands money on a dowry....so I hope she gives Marion a killer dowry.
Do you think so? I'd think it might be the opposite. Agnes, with her focus on the old ways and maintaining the status quo, seems to me like she'd be the one to sweeten Marian's marital pot with a hefty dowry. Whereas Ada, on the other hand, is the kinder, more understanding of the sisters and feels like she would.want her niece to marry for love above all else, just as she did. Although I could see Ada providing a dowry after a love match was already made because she's generous as well.
@@carag2567 do you remember in the first season Agnes told her sister that she couldn't give her a dowry from the Van Ryan money, I don't know the dutch spelling of that last name, sorry, it was all her son's.....she gave her an allowance, but nothing on the scale of a dowry....back then a dowry would be so much a year, a couple could actually live on most of them, or one lump sum which they could draw on throughout the year....Vanderbilt gave his daughter who married the duke in real life, money and shares, a lot of them in the railroad....in today's money millions....the Van Ryan's of course isn't that rich....remember in real life the dowry saved the estate....it is still going strong today....
Agnes gave Marion an allowance, clothing and a house to live in which was very generous.
@@pNo415 I agree, especially due to her brother cheating them so....she just didn't have the extra money for a proper dowry....
Remember that it was Peggy’s suggestion that Larry Russell be contacted about Jack’s in vention. Thanks for your commentary. Csntwait for Season 3
Brauva Ladies!! Really enjoyed the jaunty jib-jabb through the Gilded Age with you all. You're fun, bright and excited about the topic which makes you all so much fun to watch and listen to! Two points about the 19th Century (and before) though: 1) the term "Dance until Dawn" came from the fact that people did stay up all night for dinners, dances and balls. Often there was a dinner first at 8, followed by a ball beginning at 10 or 11 (if it followed the opera), so breakfast at 3 isn't so late in that context; and remember, this is before electric light. If you were out on an estate property, the roads weren't lit. All you had was the stars...if you were lucky. Accidents, highwaymen and wild animals were all too real along the way. Better to stay inside where it's warm and safe, eat hearty and drink enough to sleep in broad daylight in your carriage! 2) An engagement, once accepted, was almost a criminal act to break off. It was serious business, even if you had the decision made for you. Bertha will have a scandal worthy of it's name if she doesn't deliver the goods. Gladys is (sadly) just collateral damage.
Prediction: Larry and Marion may not be able to get together right away because Susan Blain will reappear pregnant with Larry’s child. Mr Fellows likes to throw in these kinds of twists.
And maybe they will explain Mr. McAllister’s line of Mrs. Blaine preferring not to live in NYC but all the while Mrs. Blaine complains about being stuck in the Newport house.
Should we be worried that Oscar was not present for Aunt Ada's big announcement at the end? If everyone was waiting for Marian, shouldn't they have waited for Oscar too? His absence was conspicuous.
We used to call staying out all night and walking in the clothes you had on the night before the walk of shame. Somehow it seems so respectable in the gilded age.
The first strike against her is that she's poor and doesn't have a dowry.
Please make a video talking about theories cause I don’t think Bertha is going to agregó with Larry marrying Marian 🤔
The iron dress Bertha used exists in other colors, there's a red/pinkish one
Let's see...
Bertha will meet her match...again
George's railroad dealing with hit a roadblock
Gladys' ended up pawn of arrange marriage to Royalty
Larry's relationship with Marian is facing obstacles between them
Anges ended up on the sidelines as Ada got money
Peggy's personal career even her own might comes on the stand still
Even Ms Astor might be somewhat of judgement on new money
Need new historical characters as well
I think she opened the door. A future story line might be that Gladys actually falls in love with the Duke.
I love Marion and Larry together, but I do wonder if he's maybe a bit too unfocused still. He got involved with a client and it doesn't appear he even finished the job, so he's going to have to step up a bit and establish himself before he's worthy of Marion. He needs to be making his own money and his own way before he gets a wife. I really hope that happens in S3, because I really want them to be together.
Gladys...poor thing...I really feel like she's headed for a cliff there...sidenote though, Consuelo Vanderbilt was born in 1977 and it's 1883 in the show isn't it? She'd be 6. lol
marion's first strike was having no dowry, did Agnes ever knew about the possible elopement.....I chose to think it's a lack of money.....
Agnes knows. They might have not told her hence the “the second more public than the first” but she has always known. She is not naive