Metal Mythos AFTERSHOCK - Interview with Rik Fox (of W.A.S.P. & STEELER)
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2020
- RazörFist is joined by journeyman bassist/songwriter RIK FOX, to set the record straight about the formation of W.A.S.P., STEELER, what really happened to Hair Metal in the '90s, and THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
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“Stop smoking pot and playing Iron Maiden leads” greatest quote ever
yeah, was that Thomas Jefferson?
Tell every trad. metal xerox band today this quote.
1st dislike was by Blackie Lawless.
The 2nd dislike was by Chris Holmes
@@DavidAtomic 3rd is Yngwie
Spot on guys.
Anyone who disliked is an idiot ha ha
Dislikes probs by people who listen to the crap on the radio nowadays lol
Please get a podcast going RazörFist.
He already does.
McCaffery what’s it called?
It's about the Shadow, the pulp character, called The Shadowcast here on UA-cam
he needs to go on efap
Razor this was amazing. Do more of this PLEASE.. 51 year old 80's metal guitarist still at it in the studio. While listening to this I was building a guitar Fuzz circuit. Great day!
Rik is a good friend of mine, the man has never lied to me about anything...when I first heard of all the crap that went on with blackie and W.A.S.P. in the early days and how much Mr lawless had rewritten history, I lost so much respect for the band. Rik is a stand up kinda guy who has never really gotten his fair share of the pie in the industry...but then there are whole bands out there that have been the catalyst of great things but never went anywhere huge...Steeler and London immediately spring to mind.
That is so true!
Jason, thanks for your comment. I became friends with Rik back in 1980. He joined a cover band that came to Rumors, a Rock club in Middletown, in Upstate NY. I swear I saw him maybe 2 more times in that band, and then he was in a band called Agressor...and all of a sudden, I was married in 82, and Rik flew out to Cali...I didn't know that, and I actually found him on FB about 3 years ago now, and I check in with him and his wife fairly often to see how they're doing, and what he's got going musically.
@@chethammer well, honesty and talent are two separate things. When you have Tony and Randy, two former members saying the exact same thing as Rik, and Chris is writing songs like "two faced mother f*cker" which is about his dealings with Mr lawless...add to that blackie not ever saying anything about it to fully disprove any claims, it tends to be a bit fishy. I am one who can honestly say I have met Tony, Chris, Randy, and a few others who have been in the band, Randy and Chris are also good friends as well....I can honestly say, I get some weird vibes off of blackie, especially if you ask him about Rik face to face, he dodges the question, and looks really nervous while doing it. Chris & Randy are right up front with their reasons or circumstances about their departures....blackie, not so much on any of them. He may be talented but he is very shady when it comes to things like band members. 3 against one, you know who is lying big time.
Cirith Ungol springs to my mind. A killer band that inspired a black metal icon (Celtic Frost) that was black hole-heavy doom metal with a one-of-a-kind vocalist singing Lord of the Rings lyrics like the Witch King of Angmar.
I was enjoying the interview, then I opened the video details AND THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
Given Razorfist's affinity for history and heavy metal, it would not surprise me at all that he listens to Sabaton....
But does he like Sabaton?
I could have sworn he said good things about them at least once or twice. I just hope that's a clue about the next Mythos!
@@evanrose96 He digs Sabaton, said the new record was killer.
@@mitchelltheawesome1 which video
WOW I remember seeing Rik Fox play w/ his band SIN. Wow... that was at Perkins Palace in Pasadena in March 1984 I believe it was on the 16th? I still have the ticket somewhere in the attic. The headliner was Armored Saint, Malice with Odin. Such an AMAZING show... wow.. Perkins was beyond packed. John Bush rode out on stage on a white horse! It was crazy. I remember Rik being really nice (always had a lot of respect for him) as I met him as my friend knew him and the promoter Gina Zamparelli. That was the best club! OMG Everybody played there back in the 80s. It was incredible! GREAT interview Rageaholic love the Metal Mythos series! You Rock! \m/
Rik Fox REALLY needs to write a book. I bet he has stories for days.
HOLY HELL MAN!!! Good for you! I'd kill to see you snag an interview with Blackie Lawless, Alice Cooper or hell even Rob Halford!
Mezotech Rob Halford interview would be awesome
@@Re-Todd_Howard It would be wise to avoid the Doris Day question.
Blackie and Alice, no chance.
Halford is a possibility.
@@RolandDeschain1Both Rob and Alice are in Phoenix he very well could get in person interviews for both.
@@mitchelltheawesome1well, hold on. Bro scored a chat with Graham Bonnet. If he can get an interview with the guy who replaced Dio in Rainbow, Alice is absolutely possible.
Shout out to my dad's & uncles' band . . . Harlow!
1:26:01 Razor, one of these days you must make a Music Mythos explaining this whole topic about Grunge and how it killed everything that was good about rock during the 90's, I feel that's one big essay on it's own
Short version. That simplistic crap took all the atention from all the incredible music being made, but yeah, I want it too.
not to mention the unholy rise of rap
@@deathsheadknight2137 That the media pushed...
@@luisnunes2010 well it certainly wasn't pushed by anyone who believes Jesus was the son of God.
@@deathsheadknight2137 Just the contrary, in fact.
Had to listen to this one thrice. At first, I thought Rik sounded kindof full of himself. So I checked his shit, he's more legit than legit. The second time, I realized that people used to genuinely treat bass players like shit, especially responsible ones who weren't raping passed out groupies. The third time, after listening to recordings of Rik playing live, I realized that he's much in the same boat as bands like Testament, where he gets a superficial pass; in spite of his ability to turn a room inside out. Learning about Rik has been a fucking treat, and I hope he continues to get exposure- dude thumps the bass without a bunch of thrills, and never drops the ball on harmony vocals- he's an honor to Lemmy's memory.
Bottom line .Riks a good person .and he's not Bullshiting .His story is interesting n truthful and deserves due respect.
"I call the bass a tool of ignorance."
Blackie Lawless
(Still love his later work, like 'headless children', 'crimson idol' and 'neon god', but yeah: uh, blackie was a bit of a shit weasel in his 20's.)
Rik fox is a class act.......what a amazing storyteller
My metal fandom doesn't extend much past listening to Razor's Metal Mythos, but this was really interesting. What a career this guy had.
He has so much to say and so many memories. This needs to be a book.
I can offer up a couple of titles : "In the Proximity of Greatness" - ( How I met & got fired by a ton of musicians who found success) OR "A Bugs Life" (Some Fat Guy Stepped On Me) , OR Rik Fox: How I tiptoed thru a minefield of success, (while maintaining totally anonymous ) without ever having any musical success on my own.
Really enjoyed this After Shock. As a huge WASP fan it was cool to hear. I love Tony’s drumming on the first album so much. You should seek him out too. You do a great job interviewing people. Well prepared and knowledgeable about your subject. In a time where most interviews are shallow and seem to ask the same questions you are ahead of 99% of most interviewers. KFD Razor 🤘🏻🤘🏻!
You 'll dig even more Tony s drumming on demos
Isn't it an amazing coincidence how Beavis and Butthead fit MTV's agenda so perfectly? It was like they handed Mike Judge a list of bands to support and a list of bands to dispose of.
Holy crap Rik mentions Warlord! That's pretty cool.
And was in Warlord? I had no clue.
One by one, to be swords, to be guns...
@@deadguydan Because he only rehearsed with them less than 3 weeks before getting fired. (a very common thing for him. Repeatedly. )
You should try to get a Michael sweet interview
Thats what Eddie Trunk is for!!!!
I looked in the comment section of his Razor Mythos, and I'm still waiting for the "Sheepdog" McLaren Aftershock!
Lol
Hell yeah! Sweet not only has awesome music, but also great political insights! Would love to see an interview between him and Razor!
@@shawnboogz7546 you are a putz
@@shamelessplace11 ?
Met Rik in Texas. He is a good guy.
Loving this deep dive into early 1980's and before Metal. So damn good!
Nobody had a voice like Blackie and he still sounds amazing 🤷🏻♀️
@@paulcosta5854 and who are you?
This is great. Loved your interview w Graham last year. You do a good job asking the tough questions. Looking forward to it.
UA-cam is broken, I have two thumbs and can only like this once!
One of the best interviews that one heard in a long time that is more than 6 minutes.
Keep em coming, Razorfist!
Greg Chaisson, the bass player he replaced, started Surgical Steel, and also played with Ron Keel.
I remember seeing Greg when he played with my friend Joe Holmes in Terrif. Then he went to play with Jake.
Good god what a head spin this guy went through. That's enough drama for several life times. Fantastic interview. I can appreciate it as I was in my teens in the 80's.
Man razor, I’m not a metal fan, I like some but not enough for the label, but you make a damn good interviewer
No substitute for a interviewer that knows the subject.
@Aldreth Same here. This is very interesting, in a historical sense.
This guy deserves a fucking movie or a Netflix series. It's crazy how much he was constantly getting shit on and the sad reality is this happened to a lot of really bad ass musicians but he's one of the only ones that can tell a true story. At least he had the last laugh in some of the situations.
"We're gonna kick Rik out of the band and steal the name. It's a special kind of stupid and that was one of them." Rik Fox
Rik rocks! Sadly so many ppl didn't appreciate his contributions... sign of the times in the 80s. Ppl were so stupid in the 80s and so many times it's backfired on them. This is a really great interview and one of the FEW I listened to the end.
Great interview wasp and Yngwie some of my favorites bands
What an incredible interview! Rik Fox is a legend!
W.A.S.P. fucking slays. Got me into harder rock and metal and there was no turning back.
I actually own the moccasin boots Blackie wore in the Wild Child and Blind in Texas videos, and I believe also on The Last Command Tour. Bought them like 20 years ago from the W.A.S.P. site when he was selling old props and clothing from back in the day.
Dude your FUCKING KIDDING ME RIGHT?
Thats dope..😎✔️
Awesome work man, I can't wait for some more metal mythos. I just love metal and rock history and it's cool to see it told in a more real and entertaining way
What a riveting interview. Thanks Rik and Razor!
Luved the interview ! Great Job Razor \m/
Most excellent, dude! Thank you for this.
This dude's musical life is just one big series of bad breaks and being shit on lol
But he doesn't complain about the shitty way he was treated.
What a cool interview Razor!!!! Wow I had forgotten about Sin!!!! They were pretty cool. I loved the video for On The Run, it was one of my favorites. All ski crashes for the entire video!!!🤘🤘🤘
Boom! Great interview guys, thanks a trillion
GREAT interview, dude!!!!! you did you homework and it showed!!! keep up the good work!!! let me know if there's a podcast!
Before the video I never even heard of Rik Fox, after the video he became one of my biggest inspirations
Me too
Yes! I’m so excited for this! 😲
Thank you both...
Love Warlord, I didn't know that was how it went down...It would've been great if he stayed and recorded the EP with them.
I've always wondered how or when the buzzsaw sound effect from Steeler made its way onto the intro sound of the radio show I'd listen to on Saturday nights I think called METALSHOP on LA radio around 1984.
If you don’t know, it’s a single note played on the low e string. Then you turn the speed and intensity knobs on a delay pedal slowly against each other.and then back away from each other. Just try it slowly and you’ll get it. It sounds really wicked through a full stack!
You really should do more of these long-form interviews. They're kind of like the Yin to your Yang of short-form rants.
Thanks for keeping WASP on the Scene... Top Great Musicians. Songs.. Continued Fortitude..... Thanks.... Continued Underated Band....Thanks for Golgatha Blackie.....
Greatest interview I’ve ever heard in my life!!!!!
It's not often I watch your Metal Mythos , and find some bands I never new about, or forgot about. Then I click to Spotify to check out all of their songs, and add many. God fucking speed Razor.
Great interview. Would live to hear more in this vain.
This is brilliant! Keep this up!
Awesome interview. Rik is a really nice guy!
Great interview guys!
Amazing as always.
Rik Fox has the memory of an elegant. Man, I tell ya. Dude doesn't forget anything.
Outstanding interview.
Great interview dude.
Nice interviu, a lot of cool info. I was surprised to hear that Malmsteen was already famous before the debut by STEELER came out. Because he said that the club in SAN FRANCISCO was full with people that came to see Malmsteen. How did they knew about him? Thanks for this recording.
We mentioned it for a moment in the interview, but a tape of Malmsteen soloing had been circulating in the scene even before he arrived. Mike Varney of Shrapnel records was eager to play it for pretty much anyone.
@@TheRageaholic Cool, thanks for letting me know, i didnt hear that. Thanksssss for the info.
Yngwie had been featured in one of the guitar mags where Varney reviewed his demo.
@@montyjohnson2708 Okay. Thanks for the info. That makes sense then, people knew about him because the magazine. Cool.
I saw the E. Walker many times in the NJ clubs , Great band , saw them few times with Rik on Bass
I'm only 18 and I'm a huge fan of W.A.S.P.
This is awesome!!!! You should do one of these on the metal band Banshee!
This changes everything!
Great interview!
Very interesting. This guy was there from the beginning helping to create some of the bands I enjoy.
As a fellow bassist, this was a fun listen
Very cool interview
rik fox? hell yeah. he was with wasp before the first album released right? btw just some thought, i would sacrifice 11 virgins if you'd be able to interview blackie or chris.
@@requited2568 A game of DND.
@@TheRageaholic shit. how did you know?
Just go to any twitch thots stream and pick the first 11 guys donating money
Blackie is really distant in a lot of interviews lately so that’s iffy.
Chris would probably do interview
After 3 minutes - hooked !
I’d buy a book from him for sure !
Rage this was an awesome interview
You should do a metal mythos about Iced Earth. You have mentioned the band a few times.
I have to do my research. The only other aftershock episode I remember is graham bonnet. Love interviews with lesser known dudes who were there at ground level when all the shit went down but never got mainstream press.
Amityville!!! 10 minutes from me! Great interview
Rik Fox, what a lovely guy!
This is going to be fun
Utterly 😎 cool, I had no clue! I played guitar & drums like decades ago-!!
God Bless ya Rik, I still have a Steeler Cassette, Sad, so many bad people in the industry.
The bass player that got shot in the back I think is Joey Palermo
An angel retrospective would be so awesome!
Never heard of him except for your Mythos video.
He was hand picked by Ron Keel to play in Steeler for one :-)
Not many people have anything good to say about Blackie lawless.
Blackie Lawless is one of my favorite singers. I'm only 18 and I huge fan of W.A.S.P.
@@stephanieu. Yeah I'm a fan too. I mean people who know him or have worked for him though.
He may have been a dick. But he was a genius songwriter and lyricist. I put him right up there with Rob Halford and Geoff Tate
Razor, you ought to do a 20-30 min News Roundup sort of thing once a week. I know the market for that stuff is pretty saturated, but it's the sort of thing that would be easy to slot into the lineup and you've clearly got the chops to do it right.
He already does with tactical hobo
@@IggyTthunders He didn't 3 years ago
This poor dude had to deal with so much ridiculous drama. hahahaha
Ray Robinson now that's a fighter
We’re All Side Players
So Awesome!!
Great interview, and I agree the whole grunge scene was anything but organic.
Would love an interview with Randy Piper.
He left ss because HE threw the pick at his band mate at hit him and they threw it back and accidentally hit him in the eye? Uh…
Rik seems a bit full of himself. I felt it throughout the whole interview (still a great interview by the interviewer). But even if it’s warranted, I’m not saying rik is lying, it’s the attitude he delivers the stories with that puts me off. If everyone you’ve been in any band with ends up disliking you or cutting you out of their life…maybe you’re the problem, rik. Idk.
Well... in all fairness to Yngwie, the songs on that Steeler album really are pretty pedestrian... 🤣
But i re listened in a long time , some songs i had great hooks and rawness .
Hot on your heels its a pretty cool Priestish tune
The drummer was good .
Riot asked him just before Thundersteel.
But yeah for Yngwie i get it completly
Great stuff
Awesome, awesome interview, if for nothing else other than now I know how to pronounce "Giuffria."
I don't know if you have already, but if you haven't already, will you do a review of Sabaton?
Blackie, Randy, Joey, Ronnie Babajko & Myself, all went out one night to the Rainbow, but on the way there we stopped at a liquor store on Melrose, and Joey grabbed a couple bottles of wine and stuffed them down the sleeves of his leather jacket .. later that night, we nearly had a food fight in Denny's on Sunset near the Hollywood Fwy .. I was there from earliest days of Sister, Circus Circus, London, Baby Jane & what finally became WASP .. I had what I felt was a mutually respectful friendship with Blackie and I was relieved to find out(months after the fact,) that the one night that my girlfriend( at the time,) was too tired/buzzed to drive home, had stayed overnight with him .. Blackie called me the next day and told me that she had stayrd iver but that was all it was .. said that I knew that he wasn't attractedto the kind of girl I was seeing at the time .. she said that nothing happened, just slept over and that was the extent if it .. honestly, most of my experiences in the 80's Sunset Strip days were good Ones .. Memories 🤘
Oh yeah! The Glory Days! Good Times for many of us!
Who was in Baby Jane never heard of that Band ?
Dude you need to tell MORE STORIES...and blackie may be a dick but he dont fuck his friends women
@@wickedmountain Lizzie Grey.
Yo RazörFist!
I don't know if you've heard of them, but I'm kinda a fan of the demonic Japanese metal band Seikima•II (Pronounced Seikimatsu, it's a Japanese pun or something.).
I'd love to see your take on them sometime.
Bro broooooooooooo brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thank you 🤯
he mentioned 'the two guitar gods in 80's' : EVH n Yngwie..
but forgot to mention Randy Rhoads.. Most ppl then didnt put Yngwie in that category. He was an afterthought. The 2 gods were EVH n RR. period.
I wish you were there back in the day bro. Things might have been different.
What's your Thoughts on pentagram?
When I grow up i wanna be like RIK
1:32:00 ish
great analysis of what really happened to metal in early 90s n emergence of 'grunge'