It’s an incomplete contract example. The Client was supposed to have added Penalty and Exit clauses in the contract to ensure work per drawings, design, Quality and terminate the contract if and when required.
agree and this guy is making outright statements that never enter in a contract, looks like the contract was poorly thought out and written just like his slides in the video, but that doesn't mean having a properly written legally binding contract is a wrong thing to do.
What so ever the clause and conditions are ... Pakistani justice system at first place order a stay ..... All related matters and agreement details are further discussed in the court for final decision... Stay is unavoidable
Regrettably sir, you either have lack of knowledge of Applicable Law e.g Contract Act 1872 or you are misleading for reason best known to you. Nevertheless, the truth is that a Contract on plain paper is equally enforceable under law. Further, as you said you were appointed as third party assessor which i think you were "Arbitrator" meaning thereby the Contract must have had Arbitration clause (under arbitration act-1940). In that case, the Contractor could not have gone to court because the Courts would have referred the case back to Arbitrators or appointed Arbitrators itself. So, parties having Arbitration clause in Contract should not worry about Courts as Courts have very limited jurisdiction in such cases and decision of Arbitrator(s) invariably attain finality.
As an aspiring house builder, I am learning a lot from your videos. Thank you. I wish you were based in Islamabad. There is too much dishonesty in the property business in Pakistan. I would like to suggest you to do a video series on A to Z construction of a house, if possible. Maybe on your next project. Showing the steps of how construction is done so when some contractor is lying about construction, we will know. There are some other Pakistani channels that have such videos but I think you would be able to do a better job.
Thank you so much for liking our videos. We will try our best to make a video on complete process of construction but the hinderance is that all the team works on projects of clients and whenever we find some time, we do a video. Unfortunately, to record complete project we have to daily do recordings on the project and then edit it and do lots of things which effects the business. We will try our best as you have requested it but bear with us if we are not able to record such video. Once again thanks a lot for appreciating
My dear your point is valid to the extent if agreement is done with out ensuring ones own interests. If there is no written agreement on a Stamp paper there are equally big chances that the contractor can play even more dirty if he is not a clean person. Best option is that agreement should be made which safeguards one's best interest. A clause should be kept that if the owner is not satisfied with the work or quality of material then he will terminate the agreement and his decision will be final. Also that the Contractor will not claim any damages or resort to any legal procedure.. Best is that owner who is spending millions of rupees should spend some money and time to consult some lawyer before making any legal agreement which will save him future bigger headache. Moreover owner should Ensure that he lays down the mode of payment and never pays excessively so that he can never be on a weaker wicket on this account. I am in the construction business and follow the same practices.
Thank you for giving a detailed feedback. My actual emphasis would be that focus should be on finding the right contractor. Getting it resolved in the courts at later stage is no option in my opinion
Must establish and sign a contract but ensure it’s comprehensive (involve construction, legal, and risk management professionals) and covers all risks involved. This is important to select a right type of contract (Firm Fixed/Labour & Material/Cost Plus/ Hybrid) to suit and protect both the parties.
who would be able to revise the contact before signing to ensure nothing is missed? and what happens when contract is not followed? what recourse is there besides court, because it seems that is a lengthy process.
ACHAY THAYKAYDAR KI KYA PAHCHAN HAY? AGAR KISI NAY GHAR BANWANA HAY TOW WO KYA KYA CHIZEN CHECK KARAY BEFORE CHOOSING THE CONTRACTOR. KINDLY GUIDE. AND THANKS FOR EVERYTHING, YOU VIDEOS ARE SO INFORMATIVE.
Very useful information but I guess the landlord should write clause that work shall be discontinued there and then if quality is compromised and no reimbursement shall be given to contractor on termination whatsoever!
Yes you can write that but in that case courts can come in place and the whole process will be delayed. Secondly, badmash contractor is case main bhi win kar jayain gaye. The best thing is to find a good contractor
@@GharPlansPakistan if it's documented then petition shall be cancelled within 2 appearances and no way the contractor will win if the quality is compromised, secondly Sharif insaan say bara badmaash koi nahin hota and only thing is that one needs to be financially sufficient. Agreed with that one should find best contractor.
Thank you very much sir for liking the video. Sir the person who had to write 10 marla content has family effected with COVID. I promised that it will be out soon but Ramadan main limited office timings and the issue that i highlighted earlier made it delayed but Sabar ka phal meetha ho ga inshallah :). Will try ke aap se video jaldi share kar lain. Really sorry for the delay
I was always of the opinion that such construction contracts should be on stamp papers but you have changed it all together. It will be great if you could suggest what methodology be adopted for such construction contracts.
Thank you. Well the best thing to do is choose a good contractor otherwise you can understand that something that can happen over here is losses. I would suggest verification should be as strict as bankers do when lending to someone. Additionally write a paper which would only be moral obligation of both parties to follow
Actually 99% of the people don't hire a consultant in Pakistan especially for house construction. Your question is very valid and i ask the same question and that is why i said ke client ki bhi utne hi ghalti hai jitne contractor ki. Actually khowish paise bachane ki the :)
Malik makaan shareef admi tha uska fault yeh ai... Contract mey contractor ko farig krane ki clause dalni chahey or third part evaluator pehle decide hona chahey in contract
@@GharPlansPakistan tu bhai yah clause bhi hota hai Agreement may kay agar contractor delay karay aur koi apni responsibly full na karay tu jinta delay hoga project is ka loss bhi contractor hi pay karay ga
@@GharPlansPakistan Actual se kum main kaam karwane kai chakar mai kaise tha? You explained that the work done for 38 lac was actually worth 23 lac. Means if the whole house cost 120 lac, the contractor would earn around 5 million straightaway on substandard work
I signed a labor rate contract on stamp paper with my contractor. The contract includes grey structure (including plaster, tiles & marble). Material procurement is my responsibility. We have completed both lenters. All dues to the contractor are clear which means I have paid him for all the work he has done so far. Is there any way for me to exit the contract because I'm not satisfied with the quality of work and therefore I no longer want to continue working with him for the remaining two stages i.e. plaster, tiles & marble . Please advise.
@Ghar Plans Agar normal paper per agreement hota hai , aur is may signatures ho aur thumps ho tu bhi Court may accept ho jata hai case , App ka yah pata hona chaia , baad may court stamps duty lay layti hai.
Meri suggestion contract paper par likhne ke yeh hai ke doonon jaanain ke kiya karna hai. Main tu keh raha houn ke focus on finding a very good contractor rather than thinking of court option. It is no option actually
Agr stamp paper pe na krien to agreement kaise krien? Means how to bind the contractor to maintain the quality? What I get from the video is that never trust on contractor. Is that?
Its not that. Just spend time on finding a contractor and do a due diligence. Cheezain document karain ta ke clarity ho. Is se ziada kuch nahin ho sakta agar us nain bure quality lagane shooroh kar di tu
simple paper pe yehi sb kuch likh lein jo jo kam krwana hai or us se sb payment method clear kr lein, jb wo quality na de to usi waqt rok k naya contractor le aayein.
Brother simply ap us say proper material ki quality ke specification lain or stamp paper par likhain k quality down karny pay agreements break kiya jayga or contrector ko plenty dali jay ge.. takay apko contrector court sy stay order ke dhamki na day sakay or na hi apsay harjana mangy
@@GharPlansPakistan aap k kehne ka matlab ye hai k jab contractor ne buri cheezen lagani shuru kardi to phir aap haar hi maan jao. Ye kaisi baat hui. Is me to aap client ko bilkul support hi nahi karrahe balke full support towards contractor
Right information but there are some instances where client creats problems for contractor especially holding the payments, not paying on time etc etc. I met a contractor who shared that everything was going fine and as we started woodwork in the house, owners asked for doors of mohagni which were not in the initial contract. Since it went all well till this point, contractor went on with the clients request and fixed door of mohagni. At the time of payment, the client refused to acknowledge any such request and refused to pay and held around 6 lac rupees of contractor. In short there must be a way to safe gaurd interests of both parties, both parties must sign a paper which can be challenged in court of law in case of breach of contract by any party. But that's worst case scenario, first everyone must ensure to fulfill their promised commitments.
Very well describe , one query though if we should not opt for stamp paper , then general or plain paper agreement will not have any worth in terms of legal ? So what can be done in order to secure mutual interest legally.
Actually it should not have any legal worth. I think going to court is not a solution. It is written down to make a moral obligation and document the things
No matter a contract is signed on a plan paper, when agreed and signed by both the parties, the contract becomes a legal document and can be referred to settle litigation in courts. So no difference if one is using a stamp paper or plan paper.
Agar grey structure aur finishing ka theka alag alag dain to jb finishing wala thekedar ata h to wo apne hr ghalat kam ki zimmadari grey structure wale thekedar p dal deta h k us ne dewarain terhi bnai, lantar sahi nahi dala etc. is ka kya krain?
Agar grey wala thekedaar aap ko munasib lage tu change na karain. Secondly, is tarah tu hota hai is tarah ke kamoun main :). Just kidding. Is tarah ki batoun par kaan mat dhartain agar aap ka kaam theek hoa hai tu because unfortunately yeh buhat zaida hai
Lkn jo client Contrector k sath ziadti kartay hain wo be btadain bhai agreements say hut kay km be karwata hin or client ke blackmailing be barh charh kay hoti hy
Yes you can but honestly speaking main aap logoun se apne experience share karta houn aur mere khayal main aur meri experience main court kachari ka koi faida nahin. Ho sakta hai kuch ko mila ho but as far as i am concerned tu dhake hi mile hain
What if material quality and brand is clearly mentioned in contract and payment is linked with quality clearance? Also there must be clear a contract termination clause for both parties
Very True, Jo Customers hamesha Sasty sy sasty k chakkar main rehty hyn aur Contract main Mehngi Cheezain Likhwaty hyn jo us Budget main Possible hi nhe hoti un k sath Hamesha Aisa hi Hota hy aur baad main hamesha Roty Hoey aaty hyn k Gray Structure sy agy complete kr dyn Contractor Chorh k chala Geya hy, thanks a lot for explaining may be this will eye opener for those who are only looking for cheaper option
Sir hum khd contractor han to ap kya suggest krty han k contract stamp paper k ilawa or contractual doc k bhi ilawa kis py krna chahya? Jo k behtr ho for contractor perspective and for cliebt as well means k safe ho! Isky ilawa apki bat sy agree nhn krta k designer material zyada nhn lagata zyada daty han drawings men hamary sth khd howa ha structural drawing any k foran bad us sy bat ki to kehta ha k koi bat nhn kr lain gy bad men ya bat Bahria town Rawalpindi ki kr raha hon bad men kr leny ka mtlb ya ha k bad wo hum sy pasy ly k sign kry ga laikn hum asa kr nhn rahy let see ekd kesy hota ha or kch is men bhi suggest kr dain. Thanx
I would suggest credibility banayain. I think agar aap nain sahih se credibility bana li tu it will pay off really well. Kuch cases main clients bhi unjust hote hain us case main aap ko pareshani ho sakte hai otherwise aap ko faida hi ho ga. Waise telling you frankly humare paas 50% clients aate hain tu woh kehte hain ke contract ki zaroorat nahin sirf eik saade kaghaz par details de dain ke aap kiya dain gaye
Good info. There is nothing wrong with contractor on stamp paper. But owners try to save pannies when infact spending millions. Owners should hire civil engineer to check work at each stage. Owner should have terms in stamp paper if work is not done as per civil engineer requirement which owner hire then owner will charge penalty to contractor but the big problem is owner spent millions on plot and house but dont spent on quality of work always look for cheap contractors
Facing similar issues now a days. In my case Contract is on company pad. Material and work is ok but slow Issue is I have to pay per month (4 installments) . So payment flow is fast as compared to the work on site Can you plz guide me in this.
This is front loading. Milestones ke sath payment associate karne chahiye the. Us ke sath bethain use se kaam karvain aur use samjhain. Yeh rationale use samajh a gaye ga aur woh ise adjust kar de ga as you are his customer
Stamp paper is not issue. Problem was documentation. In this kind big and sensitive works needed proper document like contract conditions B.OQ drawings specs. should attached along stamp contract and proper supervision. it should not verbally.
Bhai ap meray liay kabile izat hin main contrector hon min nay ek bnday ka kam kia hay without stamp paper mujhy client say boht Zada mentally or payments min blackmail kiya giya ... loss tu bohat howa mera lkn uskay baad aaj tak apno ka kaam be bank stamp paper par karta hon material ki proper terms and conditions ko disclose kar k stamp paper tiyar krwat hon
Aap sahih keh rahe hain. This is the other side of story. In both cases jis ki lathi us ki bhains wali strategy ghalat hai jo bhi follow kare. Khow woh client ho ya contractor
Agar acha contractor dhoondh lain tu woh aap se material definitely behtar le lai ga. Aap ka experience nahin of course aur ache contractor ka experience ho ga
on the other hand the owner can also file an FIR of fraud against the builder, pay 1 ,2 lac to the SHO and do his chitrol, contractor cannot take stay from court in such case this was just a bluff from the contractor.
Isi stamp paper ko client bhi use kar k court me ja sakta tha k ye contractor falaan quality ka kaam nahi karraha hai. Laiken wo client contractor ki dhmaki ko dekhte hue pressure me agaya. Ye stamp paper client ka mazboot point tha court mein na k weakness
میٹریل والی دوکان سے خریدے گئے مال پہ ان لوگوں نے منافع طے کیا ہوتا ہے جتنا زیادہ مال خریدا جائے گا اتنا ہی اس کا منافع اضافہ ہوتا ہے . ایسے ہی پینٹ کرنے والے بهی دوکاندار سے خریدے گئے ہر مال پہ اپنا حصہ طے کرتے ہیں پهر زیادہ مال لے کر کچهہ تو چوری کر کے دوبارہ بیچ دیتے ہیں اس طرح وہ دوکاندار سے ڈبل منافع لے لیتے ہیں.
@@GharPlansPakistan Agar normal paper per agreement hota hai , aur is may signatures ho aur thumps ho tu bhi Court may accept ho jata hai case , App ka yah pata hona chaia , baad may court stamps duty lay layti hai.
This is a nightmare that all clients face, having to worry if the builder will scam you, and then if you catch him, he will try and walk away, and then you are stuck without a house, and to find someone to complete the job always costs more. To take them to court takes time and money too, and in the meanwhile you still have no house which a court case can drag on for more than a year. How can this be avoided?
You are totally right sir. When i do videos on these topics some people get offended but the objective is that all the people are not like this but you have to see and find the right person. Some people have commented that go to court but i think that is not an option. People going in courts are still waiting for their decision and if the decision comes after 10 years you tend to loose much more than what you get even if you win the case
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It was a nice story..lakin ksi had tk I DNT agree with these thoughts ku k agr him contract nai krty or muu zuabani contractor hmy kahta hy main tiles Spanish use kru ga washroom fittings porta ki hon gi kitchen may fotile use kru ga etc etc AP paisy aus k mutabik dyty Hain or wo use krta hy master ki tile cannon ka kitchen hood n hob Faisal ki sanitary now imagine k AP ka contract b nai hy paisy apny imported cheezo k layhaaz sy dieay Hain or Laga wo local Raha hy to fight kaisy Kary gy aap...aaisy may wo apko Kahy ga k AP k pas to koi contract ho nai kaisy AP mjy dhmka nai skty main to local Saman use kru ga and so on...to bat ya hy k contract k Bina koi b kaam udhuura hy Bina paisay or cheezo ka contract kieay AP kaisy Kisi ko ghr start krwa skty Hain so is ka solution ya hy k contract Hona to must hy aus may clauses wo add hony chaheay Jo 100 percent favour may hon owner k ..wo JB chahay kam galat hota dykhy to contract khatm kr dy..so plz DNT tell people k wo contract na krain aaisy may wo or zyada phaans jaien gy.. plz acha contractor find krna or stamp paper py contract na krna two different things Hain
House construction ma bht zda quality concern ma ni jna chayea. 100 mase 10% chances hote hn failure ke wo b bht rare. Agay dil ki or dimag ke tasele ha jtne mrzi krae jao
saray contractor aisay he hoty hain, 1000 main sy 1 ko chor k. Ye method he galat hy k contractor ki mehnat wo apni mrzi sy owner k maal main sy nikalay ga 1500rs/sq feet main grey bna rha hy tu kis hisab sy paisay apnay pass rakh rha hy, yani koi fixed chex nahi hy. Hum shopp walay sy koi chez khareedty hain tu humain nazr ata hy kia khareed rhay hain, laikin contractor ki mehnat ka rate fix nahi wo apny paisay tu leta he hy maal kam laga k bhi loot ta hy.
I tend to disagree on that. Now you can find lots of good contractors. Masalah yeh hai ke at times clients bhi ziadti karte hain. I get lots of queries on daily basis ke hum nain ghar banana hai A to Z details bhaij dain. Of course it is not possible. Expectation level at client is too high and the contractor normally chosen is the one who quotes the lowest
Salam, i am requesting you to take some legal action towards land grabbers. They are selling illegally plots and houses in scheme33, survey 2, 3 and 4. Sector 24A, 24B and 29 in deh songal naclass 1. Karachi. Many thx 🙏🙏🙏😔😔
You are damn misleading people. By saying that not to sign contract on stamp paper, let me tell you, court would not accept any issue later. Now instead to saying that people should not sign contract on stamp paper, why do not you explain them how to make contract proper and risk free where client secures his risk. Any client can put a clause in the Contract such as, if the contractor deviates from the terms and conditions (this shall includes the material quality as well), then the client shall have the right to terminate the contract and the Contractor shall have not right for x.y.z....When there is not stamp paper involved in the Contract then how can a Client even secure himself or go to court against the contractor. That way, if the contractor terminates the contract, the client can just call or talk to various people but will not be able to go to court. So my saying is that you should read a proper contract like FIDIC 1992 or Red Book and learn for yourself first and then teach your clients how to secure their risk and make contracts with construction contractors.
I would still stay with my argument sir. Firstly, i was telling an actual story and this is what happened in actual day to day example. The home owner should not go to court in this situation. Secondly, i would never like my house to stop and then get a court decision in next few years are start it again. A much better approach will be to find a credible contractor. Lots of Government contracts got struck in court and of course they must have read the contracts and Acts much better than you and me. The costs of delays was much higher than any penalties. Also credible contractors have contract templates which they will amend but will never take dictation from clients. Lastly, there are politer ways of saying things. Of course it would be much easier to use harsher words than yours but yeh hi zarf hota hai. I would request you to improve a bit on it. Just a suggestion sir
It’s an incomplete contract example. The Client was supposed to have added Penalty and Exit clauses in the contract to ensure work per drawings, design, Quality and terminate the contract if and when required.
Yes you can add that clause of course
@@GharPlansPakistan why you didn't tell the exit clauses, penality...that favour owner.....yours' majesty is dishonesty explaining this
agree and this guy is making outright statements that never enter in a contract, looks like the contract was poorly thought out and written just like his slides in the video, but that doesn't mean having a properly written legally binding contract is a wrong thing to do.
Couldnt agree more. These clauses work like a magic, though the owner suffer losses but the contractor also suffer the same.
What so ever the clause and conditions are ...
Pakistani justice system at first place order a stay .....
All related matters and agreement details are further discussed in the court for final decision...
Stay is unavoidable
اسلام علیکم حضرت اللہ آپکوخوش رکہے آپ لوگوں کی رہنمای کررہے ہیں
Junaid bhai apki hr vedio sy bht kch seekhne ko milta h bht shukria apka
Aap ka bhi buhat shukariya ke aap meri har video dekhte hain
Regrettably sir, you either have lack of knowledge of Applicable Law e.g Contract Act 1872 or you are misleading for reason best known to you. Nevertheless, the truth is that a Contract on plain paper is equally enforceable under law. Further, as you said you were appointed as third party assessor which i think you were "Arbitrator" meaning thereby the Contract must have had Arbitration clause (under arbitration act-1940). In that case, the Contractor could not have gone to court because the Courts would have referred the case back to Arbitrators or appointed Arbitrators itself. So, parties having Arbitration clause in Contract should not worry about Courts as Courts have very limited jurisdiction in such cases and decision of Arbitrator(s) invariably attain finality.
He is showing only one side of story
As an aspiring house builder, I am learning a lot from your videos. Thank you. I wish you were based in Islamabad. There is too much dishonesty in the property business in Pakistan. I would like to suggest you to do a video series on A to Z construction of a house, if possible. Maybe on your next project. Showing the steps of how construction is done so when some contractor is lying about construction, we will know. There are some other Pakistani channels that have such videos but I think you would be able to do a better job.
Thank you so much for liking our videos. We will try our best to make a video on complete process of construction but the hinderance is that all the team works on projects of clients and whenever we find some time, we do a video. Unfortunately, to record complete project we have to daily do recordings on the project and then edit it and do lots of things which effects the business. We will try our best as you have requested it but bear with us if we are not able to record such video. Once again thanks a lot for appreciating
Sb comments ka reply krny ke bjaye wo video bna lyn jo JS bhai bool rhay hyn...coz that would be very beneficial video for all
Sir what is your profession?
There is too much dishonesty in almost every sector in Pakistan which involves physical work
My dear your point is valid to the extent if agreement is done with out ensuring ones own interests. If there is no written agreement on a Stamp paper there are equally big chances that the contractor can play even more dirty if he is not a clean person. Best option is that agreement should be made which safeguards one's best interest. A clause should be kept that if the owner is not satisfied with the work or quality of material then he will terminate the agreement and his decision will be final. Also that the Contractor will not claim any damages or resort to any legal procedure.. Best is that owner who is spending millions of rupees should spend some money and time to consult some lawyer before making any legal agreement which will save him future bigger headache. Moreover owner should Ensure that he lays down the mode of payment and never pays excessively so that he can never be on a weaker wicket on this account. I am in the construction business and follow the same practices.
Thank you for giving a detailed feedback. My actual emphasis would be that focus should be on finding the right contractor. Getting it resolved in the courts at later stage is no option in my opinion
@@GharPlansPakistan yes i agree, the court process is a headache, but how do you find the "right" contractor?
Must establish and sign a contract but ensure it’s comprehensive (involve construction, legal, and risk management professionals) and covers all risks involved. This is important to select a right type of contract (Firm Fixed/Labour & Material/Cost Plus/ Hybrid) to suit and protect both the parties.
True
who would be able to revise the contact before signing to ensure nothing is missed?
and what happens when contract is not followed? what recourse is there besides court, because it seems that is a lengthy process.
Sir kafi batain sheekne ko mili is video se JazakAllah.
Buhat buhat shukariya
Main bhe tekhdar hu laiken apse bhot kuch sekhne ko melta hi love u Allah apko khush rakhe keep it on
buhat shukariya. Aap nain acha kaam karna hai tu inshallah we all will learn a lot from you.
Nice, informative & helpful video.
So nice of you
ACHAY THAYKAYDAR KI KYA PAHCHAN HAY? AGAR KISI NAY GHAR BANWANA HAY TOW WO KYA KYA CHIZEN CHECK KARAY BEFORE CHOOSING THE CONTRACTOR. KINDLY GUIDE. AND THANKS FOR EVERYTHING, YOU VIDEOS ARE SO INFORMATIVE.
Will try to make video on it inshallah
Wonderful information
Good information. Tell solution.
Nice and informative, JazakAllah. Some samples of contracts /templates if available , please provide.
Sir i will try to share some templates in few videos in the near future
@@GharPlansPakistan thannks for prompt reply, JazakAllah
Very useful information but I guess the landlord should write clause that work shall be discontinued there and then if quality is compromised and no reimbursement shall be given to contractor on termination whatsoever!
Yes you can write that but in that case courts can come in place and the whole process will be delayed. Secondly, badmash contractor is case main bhi win kar jayain gaye. The best thing is to find a good contractor
@@GharPlansPakistan if it's documented then petition shall be cancelled within 2 appearances and no way the contractor will win if the quality is compromised, secondly Sharif insaan say bara badmaash koi nahin hota and only thing is that one needs to be financially sufficient. Agreed with that one should find best contractor.
Thank you Sir for making this video ❤ You not only to aware people but also provide the advises and guidance 👌 It is your great quality 👍
Thanks a lot
Very useful information. Thank you for that.
You are welcome!
Very good information......From two weeks still waiting for 10 marla house construction cost video.
Thank you very much sir for liking the video. Sir the person who had to write 10 marla content has family effected with COVID. I promised that it will be out soon but Ramadan main limited office timings and the issue that i highlighted earlier made it delayed but Sabar ka phal meetha ho ga inshallah :). Will try ke aap se video jaldi share kar lain. Really sorry for the delay
@@GharPlansPakistan جزاک اللہ
I was always of the opinion that such construction contracts should be on stamp papers but you have changed it all together. It will be great if you could suggest what methodology be adopted for such construction contracts.
Thank you. Well the best thing to do is choose a good contractor otherwise you can understand that something that can happen over here is losses. I would suggest verification should be as strict as bankers do when lending to someone. Additionally write a paper which would only be moral obligation of both parties to follow
Good,and appreciate your efforts
thanks a lot sir
Doing very well. Sir, Great Job.
So nice of you
Why didn't client hire consultant to make a contract? Usually specifications are attached as part of contract.
Actually 99% of the people don't hire a consultant in Pakistan especially for house construction. Your question is very valid and i ask the same question and that is why i said ke client ki bhi utne hi ghalti hai jitne contractor ki. Actually khowish paise bachane ki the :)
Malik makaan shareef admi tha uska fault yeh ai...
Contract mey contractor ko farig krane ki clause dalni chahey or third part evaluator pehle decide hona chahey in contract
Sir clause daal bhi dain tu court main time to lagta hai. Nuksan kis ka hona tha. Malik bhi actual se kaam main kaam karvane ke chakar main tha
@@GharPlansPakistan tu bhai yah clause bhi hota hai Agreement may kay agar contractor delay karay aur koi apni responsibly full na karay tu jinta delay hoga project is ka loss bhi contractor hi pay karay ga
@@GharPlansPakistan Actual se kum main kaam karwane kai chakar mai kaise tha? You explained that the work done for 38 lac was actually worth 23 lac. Means if the whole house cost 120 lac, the contractor would earn around 5 million straightaway on substandard work
I signed a labor rate contract on stamp paper with my contractor. The contract includes grey structure (including plaster, tiles & marble). Material procurement is my responsibility. We have completed both lenters. All dues to the contractor are clear which means I have paid him for all the work he has done so far. Is there any way for me to exit the contract because I'm not satisfied with the quality of work and therefore I no longer want to continue working with him for the remaining two stages i.e. plaster, tiles & marble . Please advise.
AOA agrement sample k bary ma video banaye
Junaid bhai, New Lahore city/Zaitoon walo ke baare KUch bataen plz. Udher plot/r ghar banana kesa rahe ga ???
Need to do a bit of research and then will be able to tell you better
Place achi hy min ny kaam kia hy waha 5 marlay k do set banain hain
Excellent video. A public service message truly.👍
Thank you so much. Actually the objective is the same
@Ghar Plans Agar normal paper per agreement hota hai , aur is may signatures ho aur thumps ho tu bhi Court may accept ho jata hai case , App ka yah pata hona chaia , baad may court stamps duty lay layti hai.
Meri suggestion contract paper par likhne ke yeh hai ke doonon jaanain ke kiya karna hai. Main tu keh raha houn ke focus on finding a very good contractor rather than thinking of court option. It is no option actually
@@GharPlansPakistan yani without signatures and thumps kay only write kerlay , Agreement sample paper per. ? App yah bol rahay hai ?
@@GharPlansPakistan Aur Ak baat kay koi contractor Good nahi hota 1000 May sirf ak hi ho ga.
Agr stamp paper pe na krien to agreement kaise krien? Means how to bind the contractor to maintain the quality? What I get from the video is that never trust on contractor. Is that?
Its not that. Just spend time on finding a contractor and do a due diligence. Cheezain document karain ta ke clarity ho. Is se ziada kuch nahin ho sakta agar us nain bure quality lagane shooroh kar di tu
simple paper pe yehi sb kuch likh lein jo jo kam krwana hai or us se sb payment method clear kr lein, jb wo quality na de to usi waqt rok k naya contractor le aayein.
Brother simply ap us say proper material ki quality ke specification lain or stamp paper par likhain k quality down karny pay agreements break kiya jayga or contrector ko plenty dali jay ge.. takay apko contrector court sy stay order ke dhamki na day sakay or na hi apsay harjana mangy
@@GharPlansPakistan aap k kehne ka matlab ye hai k jab contractor ne buri cheezen lagani shuru kardi to phir aap haar hi maan jao. Ye kaisi baat hui. Is me to aap client ko bilkul support hi nahi karrahe balke full support towards contractor
Excellent.
Good.
Very informative.
So nice of you
Right information but there are some instances where client creats problems for contractor especially holding the payments, not paying on time etc etc. I met a contractor who shared that everything was going fine and as we started woodwork in the house, owners asked for doors of mohagni which were not in the initial contract. Since it went all well till this point, contractor went on with the clients request and fixed door of mohagni. At the time of payment, the client refused to acknowledge any such request and refused to pay and held around 6 lac rupees of contractor.
In short there must be a way to safe gaurd interests of both parties, both parties must sign a paper which can be challenged in court of law in case of breach of contract by any party. But that's worst case scenario, first everyone must ensure to fulfill their promised commitments.
You are totally right. At times clients try to cheat with contractors too. This is of course really bad
Very informative please keep it up with such a valuable information with us, Gob bless you.
So nice of you
Very well describe , one query though if we should not opt for stamp paper , then general or plain paper agreement will not have any worth in terms of legal ? So what can be done in order to secure mutual interest legally.
Actually it should not have any legal worth. I think going to court is not a solution. It is written down to make a moral obligation and document the things
AOA. Then what should we do for agreement...instead stamp paper?
Core is that find a good contractor. Secondly, document the things definitely but not on the stamp paper
@@GharPlansPakistan OK sir, thanks, on simple paper with signatures?
No matter a contract is signed on a plan paper, when agreed and signed by both the parties, the contract becomes a legal document and can be referred to settle litigation in courts. So no difference if one is using a stamp paper or plan paper.
Agar grey structure aur finishing ka theka alag alag dain to jb finishing wala thekedar ata h to wo apne hr ghalat kam ki zimmadari grey structure wale thekedar p dal deta h k us ne dewarain terhi bnai, lantar sahi nahi dala etc. is ka kya krain?
Agar grey wala thekedaar aap ko munasib lage tu change na karain. Secondly, is tarah tu hota hai is tarah ke kamoun main :). Just kidding. Is tarah ki batoun par kaan mat dhartain agar aap ka kaam theek hoa hai tu because unfortunately yeh buhat zaida hai
Lkn jo client Contrector k sath ziadti kartay hain wo be btadain bhai agreements say hut kay km be karwata hin or client ke blackmailing be barh charh kay hoti hy
Bilkul aisa hota hai
Very good information
So nice of you
Good Info SIr : What about B4 signing any Agreement discuss it with ur Lawyer ?
Yes you can but honestly speaking main aap logoun se apne experience share karta houn aur mere khayal main aur meri experience main court kachari ka koi faida nahin. Ho sakta hai kuch ko mila ho but as far as i am concerned tu dhake hi mile hain
Thank you so much
Very informative content alwaz ..plz also make a video about smart city lahore ..or long term investment in lahore
Thank you very much. Will make a video on it inshallah
Excellent
Jazak Allah
Buhat shukariya sir. Aap ki feedback milte rehne chahiye in future as well :)
how much is usually the cost for consultant to overlook the construction quality and to deal with contractor? Is it on a monthly or fixed basis?
It really depends on the services you require and also on the quality of services in this regard
Good show...keep it up
Thank you. Will try to put my best effort
How to buy a already build house? Plz record a video on this topic.
Sure a video is being done by Laiba i think on that. This is in our channel. you can search it in her playlist
Great bro Good information bro there are so many questions,how we can trace skilled Mason?
There can be a whole story written on it
What if material quality and brand is clearly mentioned in contract and payment is linked with quality clearance? Also there must be clear a contract termination clause for both parties
Yes you should add that. It is a very good idea. Still one thing that i would like to suggest is that don't go for contract on stamp paper
very useful information👍🏻
Thanks a lot
JazakAllah Kia nukta ha.
Buhat shukariya
Very True, Jo Customers hamesha Sasty sy sasty k chakkar main rehty hyn aur Contract main Mehngi Cheezain Likhwaty hyn jo us Budget main Possible hi nhe hoti un k sath Hamesha Aisa hi Hota hy aur baad main hamesha Roty Hoey aaty hyn k Gray Structure sy agy complete kr dyn Contractor Chorh k chala Geya hy, thanks a lot for explaining may be this will eye opener for those who are only looking for cheaper option
I think you got the concept of the video. Thank you for further explaining and elaborating it
Going through same issue these days !
I hope and pray you get out of this crisis
Thank god...ma bh parson contract karny he Wala tha contracter sy stamp paper pr.... Lekn ab bilkul bh nhe Karon ga esy
:) thanks
Sir hum khd contractor han to ap kya suggest krty han k contract stamp paper k ilawa or contractual doc k bhi ilawa kis py krna chahya? Jo k behtr ho for contractor perspective and for cliebt as well means k safe ho! Isky ilawa apki bat sy agree nhn krta k designer material zyada nhn lagata zyada daty han drawings men hamary sth khd howa ha structural drawing any k foran bad us sy bat ki to kehta ha k koi bat nhn kr lain gy bad men ya bat Bahria town Rawalpindi ki kr raha hon bad men kr leny ka mtlb ya ha k bad wo hum sy pasy ly k sign kry ga laikn hum asa kr nhn rahy let see ekd kesy hota ha or kch is men bhi suggest kr dain. Thanx
I would suggest credibility banayain. I think agar aap nain sahih se credibility bana li tu it will pay off really well. Kuch cases main clients bhi unjust hote hain us case main aap ko pareshani ho sakte hai otherwise aap ko faida hi ho ga. Waise telling you frankly humare paas 50% clients aate hain tu woh kehte hain ke contract ki zaroorat nahin sirf eik saade kaghaz par details de dain ke aap kiya dain gaye
Good info. There is nothing wrong with contractor on stamp paper. But owners try to save pannies when infact spending millions. Owners should hire civil engineer to check work at each stage. Owner should have terms in stamp paper if work is not done as per civil engineer requirement which owner hire then owner will charge penalty to contractor but the big problem is owner spent millions on plot and house but dont spent on quality of work always look for cheap contractors
Good idea
Facing similar issues now a days. In my case
Contract is on company pad.
Material and work is ok but slow
Issue is I have to pay per month (4 installments) .
So payment flow is fast as compared to the work on site
Can you plz guide me in this.
This is front loading. Milestones ke sath payment associate karne chahiye the. Us ke sath bethain use se kaam karvain aur use samjhain. Yeh rationale use samajh a gaye ga aur woh ise adjust kar de ga as you are his customer
@@GharPlansPakistan I did it but he refused to listen.
Jazak Allah Khair.
Really appreciated
Nice informativ video 😊
Buhat shukariya
Stamp paper is not issue. Problem was documentation. In this kind big and sensitive works needed proper document like contract conditions B.OQ drawings specs. should attached along stamp contract and proper supervision. it should not verbally.
Bhai ap meray liay kabile izat hin main contrector hon min nay ek bnday ka kam kia hay without stamp paper mujhy client say boht Zada mentally or payments min blackmail kiya giya ... loss tu bohat howa mera lkn uskay baad aaj tak apno ka kaam be bank stamp paper par karta hon material ki proper terms and conditions ko disclose kar k stamp paper tiyar krwat hon
Aap sahih keh rahe hain. This is the other side of story. In both cases jis ki lathi us ki bhains wali strategy ghalat hai jo bhi follow kare. Khow woh client ho ya contractor
Agree sir
How much you charges for as 3rd party. Kindly respond thanks
Depends on the services you require. I think i would suggest you to call us at 0315-5111119
Sir if there is not a contract on stamp paper how can contractor be made accountable?
Only a contractor can be morally made accountable. Court is no solution here as you tend to loose more
Ye apny faiday k liyay ye agreement stamp paperki bat omit kr rhy 😂😂 wah kya baat hy
Aap zaroor stamp paper par kigie ga agreement :). Please don't backout :)
Sir ap kya koi lawyer hain kya?
اگر میٹیریل کی سپلائی ہم خود رکھیں تو کیا نقصان کم ہو سکتا ہے، کہ جب ہم اچھا کنٹریکٹر ڈھونڈ لئے ہوں۔
Agar acha contractor dhoondh lain tu woh aap se material definitely behtar le lai ga. Aap ka experience nahin of course aur ache contractor ka experience ho ga
@@GharPlansPakistan I will contact you when i come back to pak.
Excellent Excellent Excellent
Many many thanks
on the other hand the owner can also file an FIR of fraud against the builder, pay 1 ,2 lac to the SHO and do his chitrol, contractor cannot take stay from court in such case this was just a bluff from the contractor.
Isi stamp paper ko client bhi use kar k court me ja sakta tha k ye contractor falaan quality ka kaam nahi karraha hai. Laiken wo client contractor ki dhmaki ko dekhte hue pressure me agaya. Ye stamp paper client ka mazboot point tha court mein na k weakness
Mashwara mujh se maangta to me mashwara deta k contractor k sath ab kiya karna chahye
میٹریل والی دوکان سے خریدے گئے مال پہ ان لوگوں نے منافع طے کیا ہوتا ہے جتنا زیادہ مال خریدا جائے گا اتنا ہی اس کا منافع اضافہ ہوتا ہے .
ایسے ہی پینٹ کرنے والے بهی دوکاندار سے خریدے گئے ہر مال پہ اپنا حصہ طے کرتے ہیں پهر زیادہ مال لے کر کچهہ تو چوری کر کے دوبارہ بیچ دیتے ہیں اس طرح وہ دوکاندار سے ڈبل منافع لے لیتے ہیں.
G bilkul sahi kaha. Hr level p beimani hoti h. Bnda kis kis p nazar rkhe.
Ji kuch cases main aisa bhi hota hai
Very good sir
Thanks and welcome
Bohat alla
Stay blessed
buhat buhat shukariya
ye to bata dia k stamp paper par contract na karain, lekin ye nahi bataeya k phir contract kese karain?
Contractor acha dhoondhain aur contract ki sari shikain normal paper par tehreer kar lain
Contractor ki pad pe
@@GharPlansPakistan Agar normal paper per agreement hota hai , aur is may signatures ho aur thumps ho tu bhi Court may accept ho jata hai case , App ka yah pata hona chaia , baad may court stamps duty lay layti hai.
Sir 10% minimum rebate milti hai contractor ko market sy
Not all the times. There are few products jin par milte hai. Secondly, aap khud se bhi negotiate kar laite hain so the differential is not 10%
@@GharPlansPakistan Go to any material selling showroom or any small seller for that matter. Find me one supplier who doesn’t deal in rebates!!!!
Thanks Sir
V nice sir
Thanks and welcome
This is a nightmare that all clients face, having to worry if the builder will scam you, and then if you catch him, he will try and walk away, and then you are stuck without a house, and to find someone to complete the job always costs more. To take them to court takes time and money too, and in the meanwhile you still have no house which a court case can drag on for more than a year. How can this be avoided?
You are totally right sir. When i do videos on these topics some people get offended but the objective is that all the people are not like this but you have to see and find the right person. Some people have commented that go to court but i think that is not an option. People going in courts are still waiting for their decision and if the decision comes after 10 years you tend to loose much more than what you get even if you win the case
جس ملک میں انصاف وقت پہ نا ملے ، وہاں یہی ہوتا ہے
can u refer some honest contractor in Lahore?
Well we are in construction in Lahore and Islamabad. You can check with others too and check with us
Kindly expand ur functions and assemble a team in karachi too.
sir aap video seo complete kr lia karain zyada reach ho gi
Sir aata hi nahin kiya karain :)
@@GharPlansPakistan sir aap k liay to Jan b hazir 5 mint dain dikha dn ga
@@WaqasAnwar Thank you so much. Aap ki itne mohabbat hai. You can call us anytime at 0315-5111119 or share your no. and one of our directors will call you
@@GharPlansPakistan 03042914302
Asal nuqsan ap ny krwaya ghr bnany walay ka.
Faide ka tareeqa bhi bata daite aap tu bhala ho jata sab ka
Nys Sharing
Thanks 🤗
Good information
Use information
Thank you so much
It was a nice story..lakin ksi had tk I DNT agree with these thoughts ku k agr him contract nai krty or muu zuabani contractor hmy kahta hy main tiles Spanish use kru ga washroom fittings porta ki hon gi kitchen may fotile use kru ga etc etc AP paisy aus k mutabik dyty Hain or wo use krta hy master ki tile cannon ka kitchen hood n hob Faisal ki sanitary now imagine k AP ka contract b nai hy paisy apny imported cheezo k layhaaz sy dieay Hain or Laga wo local Raha hy to fight kaisy Kary gy aap...aaisy may wo apko Kahy ga k AP k pas to koi contract ho nai kaisy AP mjy dhmka nai skty main to local Saman use kru ga and so on...to bat ya hy k contract k Bina koi b kaam udhuura hy Bina paisay or cheezo ka contract kieay AP kaisy Kisi ko ghr start krwa skty Hain so is ka solution ya hy k contract Hona to must hy aus may clauses wo add hony chaheay Jo 100 percent favour may hon owner k ..wo JB chahay kam galat hota dykhy to contract khatm kr dy..so plz DNT tell people k wo contract na krain aaisy may wo or zyada phaans jaien gy.. plz acha contractor find krna or stamp paper py contract na krna two different things Hain
contract bilkul karna hai lakin stamp paper par nahin... This is what we are trying to say
Better u should emphasise on writing termination clauses properly instead recommending not to use stamp paper.
Well my suggestion always will be choosing a good contractor
House construction ma bht zda quality concern ma ni jna chayea.
100 mase 10% chances hote hn failure ke wo b bht rare. Agay dil ki or dimag ke tasele ha jtne mrzi krae jao
Yeh bhi eik perspective hai jise main bilkul challenge nahin karoun ga kyon ke yeh ghalat nahin hai
Are you fishing bro?
🌴"رب ذوالجلال"
آپکو تاحیات
تندرست، سلامت
اور شادوآباد رکهے.🌴
🌹آمين يارب العالمين🌹
Buhat buhat shukariya
You must expose such Fraud Ppls,
Sir we will try to do so
sir you are great
Thank you very much
saray contractor aisay he hoty hain, 1000 main sy 1 ko chor k.
Ye method he galat hy k contractor ki mehnat wo apni mrzi sy owner k maal main sy nikalay ga
1500rs/sq feet main grey bna rha hy tu kis hisab sy paisay apnay pass rakh rha hy, yani koi fixed chex nahi hy.
Hum shopp walay sy koi chez khareedty hain tu humain nazr ata hy kia khareed rhay hain, laikin contractor ki mehnat ka rate fix nahi wo apny paisay tu leta he hy maal kam laga k bhi loot ta hy.
I tend to disagree on that. Now you can find lots of good contractors. Masalah yeh hai ke at times clients bhi ziadti karte hain. I get lots of queries on daily basis ke hum nain ghar banana hai A to Z details bhaij dain. Of course it is not possible. Expectation level at client is too high and the contractor normally chosen is the one who quotes the lowest
@@GharPlansPakistan BUt my question is that how does a contractor earns? can u explain
Ager contract stamp paper kis aam paper py hai tu contractor phr kuch nhi kr skta hai
How to find good contractor ?
Soon a video will come
Clear contract hona chaya either on stamp paper or simple paper with granty check
I won't do it on stamp paper if i am building my house
Aisy tekadar ka elaj hamy ata he
That's good but shayed har eik ko nahin aata
Batana pasand karenge
Are you based in Lahore?
Yes we are
Incomplete contract made by owner. Dont discourage for stamp
Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for watching!
Salam, i am requesting you to take some legal action towards land grabbers. They are selling illegally plots and houses in scheme33, survey 2, 3 and 4. Sector 24A, 24B and 29 in deh songal naclass 1. Karachi. Many thx 🙏🙏🙏😔😔
Sir hum sab loug mil kar awaz utha sakte hain aur us ka asar sab se zaida hota hai
You are damn misleading people. By saying that not to sign contract on stamp paper, let me tell you, court would not accept any issue later. Now instead to saying that people should not sign contract on stamp paper, why do not you explain them how to make contract proper and risk free where client secures his risk. Any client can put a clause in the Contract such as, if the contractor deviates from the terms and conditions (this shall includes the material quality as well), then the client shall have the right to terminate the contract and the Contractor shall have not right for x.y.z....When there is not stamp paper involved in the Contract then how can a Client even secure himself or go to court against the contractor. That way, if the contractor terminates the contract, the client can just call or talk to various people but will not be able to go to court. So my saying is that you should read a proper contract like FIDIC 1992 or Red Book and learn for yourself first and then teach your clients how to secure their risk and make contracts with construction contractors.
I would still stay with my argument sir. Firstly, i was telling an actual story and this is what happened in actual day to day example. The home owner should not go to court in this situation. Secondly, i would never like my house to stop and then get a court decision in next few years are start it again. A much better approach will be to find a credible contractor. Lots of Government contracts got struck in court and of course they must have read the contracts and Acts much better than you and me. The costs of delays was much higher than any penalties. Also credible contractors have contract templates which they will amend but will never take dictation from clients.
Lastly, there are politer ways of saying things. Of course it would be much easier to use harsher words than yours but yeh hi zarf hota hai. I would request you to improve a bit on it. Just a suggestion sir