That’s his roundabout way of saying he thinks Zelda aren’t great as games without his chat losing it. At the end of the day he likes Mario party 1 better than super Metroid, and probably likes both more than Zelda. It’s his opinion, he is allowed to say whatever he wants about those games, I just wish he’d say it straight up instead of wiggling his way around it.
This is just more evidence to never take Coney's opinions seriously because good lord there were some nuclearly awful takes, but we all already know that and forgive his sins
@@Starmar it's not about his opinions, which are extremely one-dimentional, but most people's are, is the way he gives his reasoning for them which is complete and utter nonsense
I wonder if Coney would ever consider playing Strikers netplay because there is a competitive scene for it. It gets pretty technical as well. That being said, the online era for it during the Wii's lifespan was a lot of fun and a nice memory for nostalgia
I had looked up on whether Mario Strikers Charged worked over Wiimfii...and apparently as of this year it *still* does, so it would be well worth checking out if the online holds up
@@TheBoltMaster456 I moreso meant bad as in what Twitter would call bad. Like, the horny and/or cringe cutscenes. Like blushy-crushy, or one-eyed monster. Not saying if I agree with that or not! Just that's what I meant by my comment.
the whiplash from snaping back and forth from incredible, based takes and takes that would make even the devil on coney's shoulder go "now what is this mf on about now?" is crazy
Goldeneye may not have aged well. But it’s still a landmark in gaming and one of the most important games of all time. It reinvented the fps genre and made 4 player split screen more popular. without goldeneye there would be no perfect dark or cod or even probably halo. Goldeneye walked so that halo, battlefield, cod, medal of honor and perfect dark and timesplitters could run.
"If game 1 had not come out then game 3 would not have come out, 3 was supper important to me so game 1 moves on to the next round" This alternate time line talk always comes up when talking about ranking games and movies, the quality of the thing is waay different than the influence it has later on. Always infuriates me when people weigh legacy waaay too much cause that dose not mean it is a better game. A game should stand up on its own, not after you play it and do background homework to know the influence it has.
coney, about the N64 render style stuff, you gotta talk to ironpineapple. I know you guys probably don't have much overlap, but he's got a guy for that. if you haven't seen his n64 style dark souls posters, they're amazing
Coney is the face of the whole ARMS community and I’m here for it. Even if there’s only like 12 other people (myself included). i don’t think the game is as bad as some of the nintendo specific content creators make it out to be
i swear to god i’ve never been more tilted than when coney put kirby’s adventure over xenoblade chronicles because of some out of context cutscenes from the SECOND GAME
@@ShallBePurified I find it funny that you could easily just replace Xenoblade's and Fire Emblem's characters with Mario characters, and Coney would be all over it and love it, saying how "creative and novel" it is. This is coming from someone who doesn't like Xenoblade or FE either, but I find it funny how Coney is so biased against anything that has a serious story and an anime art style.
As one of the many women viewers of Coney... I cringed at the thought of him choosing Animal Crossing over Mario Kart DS... being in the same age group I think he forgot the easily playable fact of share download and play without owning games the DS had so you could be in a group during free time in school and a chunk of the classroom is racing against one another.
Every time I think I've developed immunity to coney baiting me I get proven wrong. How dare he say theres a reason we don't have a golden sun 2 when we have both a 2 and a fucking 3 and 2 is one of the best rpgs of all time. Oooh my bloods boiling and I'm giving him engagement just like he wanted. You win this round coney.
Yup. The hilarious part is some of the games he immediately counts out like Xenoblade and Fire Emblem would be at the top for him if they simply used the Mario IP instead. lmao
I'm a fan of Banjo Tooie, but I understand why people will prefer the first game over it for many reasons. That said, the seeding difference being THAT MUCH is wild. Like, come on it's not THAT bad lmao
He regularly does tho, it's crazy how when Mario gets recognition people just assume it's basic or they haven't played other games to know, when Mario games are still recognised as being some of the most well designed games out there
@@Daft0Cean968 The thing is he gives some objectively bad or okay Mario games the pass over other objectively better games (Like Mario Party 1 over Super Metroid).
I don’t have an issue with the logic he uses from game to game. I’m lmao because of the inconsistency. He talks about novelty and “inventing a genre” and then says that arms beats Wii sports because it is an evolution of boxing. Like, that’s just the opposite of what you said earlier 😂
No Sin & Punishment? No Punch-Out? No Kid Icarus No Custom Robo? No 1080? And what happened to Wave Race? And why did Star Fox only get Star Fox 1? Update: Saw the livestream. Mario bias is all I'm saying (still missing half of what I said). Should've cut down on them or should've done 256.
So sad that nobody has really played the Oracles Zelda games. I didn't play Oracle of Seasons until a while after Breath of the Wild came out, but it immediately became my favorite Zelda game (in contention with Skyward Sword for sentimental reasons)
Banjo tooie survives solely on it naming convention, it’s cute and memorable and incites predictions for the third game. If it was known as banjo 2: adventures of the whatver, it would likely be looked back on as a failed sequel
Him bonking Ocarina of Time out in the first round is hilarious. There’s bad takes, and then there’s OoT tying for 95th place in “best Nintendo games” lololol
Coney hit really close to home with the final round. I have a lot of good memories about that game and others. You can always play a single player game and have a great time, but multiplayer games like that make memories with people you can never replicate.
It comes down to Donkey Kong Country and Mario strikers charged, two games basically no one would ever objectively say are the best games in the world. That's how you know it's Coney's list. Also dude gets time out for agreeing with Coney about strikers, I just imagine that being IRL friends with Coney just occasionally gets you kicked out of his house because you were on a doubles team with Coney in ultimate and you won, but your pop off was better than his.
20:28 Here's the thing. Mario 64 revolutionized gaming and spawned a new genre back in the 90's, when gaming was still in its early days. BoTW revolutionized gaming and spawned a whole new genre of games in THE LATE 2010'S, WHEN GAMING WAS BASICALLY AT ITS PEAK!! Yeah, I rest my case.
8:35 I honestly have no idea how people can live without experiencing Xenoblade Chronicles. like I honestly believe it is the best video game to exist. literally the PEAK of gaming. I believe that everyone should experience it. life changing video game.
I just watched two videos in a row and I think they are maybe the only two videos Coney has ever talked about teaching old people wii sports. But the fact I just watched them back to back makes me feel like Coney just won't shut up about this wii sports thing.
lmao we got Golden Sun 2 and 3. 2 is widely considered the best one (I haven't played any aside the first few hours of the first (it's boring, and I'm an RPG guy)) but it's funny that you said that
I actually really liked CONEY's last take for his "best" game. It's a bit different from mine, that being it was my first and I will always cherish it for setting me on this path but the idea of representing a time that will never be recovered is bitter sweet in the best way possible.
Ocarina of Time has over Super Mario Bros only a good literary excellently paced story, fleshed out cutscenes, a relatively decent large open world filled with fun puzzles, fun themed dungeon designs, and the most iconic soundtrack in all of video game history. But yeah its only a "good" game. Definitely not considered the GOAT or #1 in any video game list at all. Oh Wait, that's MOST of them. But sure put Mario through without any second thought.
Coney dismissing legacy for Zelda then immediately choosing Mario Party 1 over Super Metroid minutes later is a certified Coney move.
That’s his roundabout way of saying he thinks Zelda aren’t great as games without his chat losing it. At the end of the day he likes Mario party 1 better than super Metroid, and probably likes both more than Zelda. It’s his opinion, he is allowed to say whatever he wants about those games, I just wish he’d say it straight up instead of wiggling his way around it.
@@3DOM_Coney's gonna Coney.
Coney values legacy until he sees Arms and I respect that.
#ARMSNICE
Coney values legacy untill he see's Metroid
I like how Coney defends certain games and then proceeds to call them bad like two rounds later
Mario Party 8 moment...
@Chillarmyssb Coney really be having the most controversial takes....
@@Chillaccino1 That perfectly descibes 8 actually. Good and bad at the same time
In 8’s defense, the motion controls are implemented perfectly into the gameplay. You ever seen that one video?
Coney doesn't have genuine opinions, he has content opinions.
7:07 13:25
I love how every time Coney gets cocky and smug, the karma bracket seeding rips out his heart
Literal Tom and Jerry moments
12:30
Coney never fails to have bad takes.
Fact nigga is crazy for saying og Zelda is better than Splatoon 3🤬
like what lol
When he said "there is a reason there was no Golden sun 2" i knew it was over 💀💀💀
@@rondoudoushiney3868worst take ever made 💀
@@omegalite8788 it's not even a bad take, it's straight up ignorance.
Golden Sun 3 is 10+ years old 😭
"Senile Old Man makes worst bracket ever" should be the title
Very articulate and well thought out Zachary, the community once again thanks you for your valuable input
19:18 I can't keep defending you brother this is WILD
This is just more evidence to never take Coney's opinions seriously because good lord there were some nuclearly awful takes, but we all already know that and forgive his sins
People like different things
@@Starmarand some people are wrong
@@sealbe1885based
@@Starmar it's not about his opinions, which are extremely one-dimentional, but most people's are, is the way he gives his reasoning for them which is complete and utter nonsense
Yeah I had to stop watching for a bit when he put ARMS over Wii Sports
Coney we didn't just get a Golden Sun 2, we got 3.
Coney will never stop hating jrpgs (he doesn’t have the attention span to read through more than 2 dialogue boxes)
This is my roommate to a tee
@@6dm978 LULW true
Wait didn't we get a third golden sun on the ds?
Coney is a variety gamer trapped with a Nintendo-centric audience and it’s always funny how pissed Nintendo fans get at his takes
Agreed. everyone’s so pressed and it’s hilarious. Even if I don’t agree with some of his opinions, I respect them enough not to throw a fit lmao
honestly i feel like the deeper you get into games (at least online) the less fun you're likely to have due to the toxicity of people online.
I’m not even a big Nintendo fan and some of these picks made me want to throw my phone. Good video
I feel that shit, I was furious when he put Pokémon Blue over Golden Sun.
I wonder if Coney would ever consider playing Strikers netplay because there is a competitive scene for it. It gets pretty technical as well. That being said, the online era for it during the Wii's lifespan was a lot of fun and a nice memory for nostalgia
I hope he finds a way to play it, it'd be really fun to see him play it
@@felipegodoy5342Akshon esports did a little exposé on it a while back, that'd probably be the easiest way for him to start
I had looked up on whether Mario Strikers Charged worked over Wiimfii...and apparently as of this year it *still* does, so it would be well worth checking out if the online holds up
Most of my personal memories from Strikers were actually from the CPUs. Those things were cracked and still fun as hell to play against.
@@co5micwaffle742 Story mode is hard af
"hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby" was perfect for that 😂
Coney consistently provides the most infuriating content and I am the addict who will watch it anyways
Mood!
The way this man refuses to pick a side between personal opinion and legacy/cultural relevance destroys my brain.
I laughed a lot at this one and talked to my monitor like a schizophrenic. Thanks for the laughs, Coney.
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who actively talks to the screen
This video just exemplifies how old Coney is LMAO
Wow I liked this video so much that I threw my phone across the room and it shattered
I loved this stream so much
Hearing coneys old man stories, what he values in a game, and what these games mean to him was genuinely really touching
“DK64 is super-mutant banjo kazooie” is my new favorite coney analogy
Kirby over Xenoblade is a CRIME!
9:16 I like how he literally shows us that he’s the person in the tweet
Playing Strikers Charged, with surround sound speakers set up:
Feeling actual *ripples* echo through your body is an unmatched experience.
DUDE YES, I'M GLAD SOMEONE ELSE HAD A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE
I genuinely cannot think of a bad Xenoblade 1 cutscene, Coney getting it confused with Xenoblade 2 smh
Xenoblade 2 did irreparable damage to that series
I can't think of a bad Xenoblade 2 cutscene either. Like??????? Xenoblade 3 maybe, but 1 and 2 were bangers through and through.
@@TheBoltMaster456 I moreso meant bad as in what Twitter would call bad. Like, the horny and/or cringe cutscenes. Like blushy-crushy, or one-eyed monster.
Not saying if I agree with that or not! Just that's what I meant by my comment.
the whiplash from snaping back and forth from incredible, based takes and takes that would make even the devil on coney's shoulder go "now what is this mf on about now?" is crazy
I honestly love that Coney stuck to his heart with Mario Strikers.
That one guy that got banned literally called it 😂
20:03 imagine that lmfao typing your first message in chat and getting banned immediately
Goldeneye may not have aged well. But it’s still a landmark in gaming and one of the most important games of all time. It reinvented the fps genre and made 4 player split screen more popular. without goldeneye there would be no perfect dark or cod or even probably halo. Goldeneye walked so that halo, battlefield, cod, medal of honor and perfect dark and timesplitters could run.
I love watching Coney make up some reason for a game to win, just to contradict it in the next round.
Also Mario 64 vs Pikmin was an early final
Xenoblade disrespect will always make me depressed.
if you think jrpgs get any amount of respect in this channel i think you should change your mentality when watching coney
"If game 1 had not come out then game 3 would not have come out, 3 was supper important to me so game 1 moves on to the next round"
This alternate time line talk always comes up when talking about ranking games and movies, the quality of the thing is waay different than the influence it has later on. Always infuriates me when people weigh legacy waaay too much cause that dose not mean it is a better game. A game should stand up on its own, not after you play it and do background homework to know the influence it has.
Fr.
100% agree
“Mario party created a genre” as he moves the mouse away from super Metroid
2:16 As someone who was an "essential worker" during this time period, I had NO faith in things getting any better.
coney, about the N64 render style stuff, you gotta talk to ironpineapple. I know you guys probably don't have much overlap, but he's got a guy for that. if you haven't seen his n64 style dark souls posters, they're amazing
9:53 I do not tolerate Dark Moon slander.
Prime being old doesn’t matter it still holds up. Prime stands the test of time. And has aged exceptionally well.
Coney is the face of the whole ARMS community and I’m here for it. Even if there’s only like 12 other people (myself included). i don’t think the game is as bad as some of the nintendo specific content creators make it out to be
i swear to god i’ve never been more tilted than when coney put kirby’s adventure over xenoblade chronicles because of some out of context cutscenes from the SECOND GAME
You say that like the context of that scene improves it at all.
Kirby could eat Shulk, Rex, and the whole kerfuffle. Kirby sweep
XENOBLADE BAD GAME I GO TO SLEEP
I went into this video know Coney would immediately kill off Xenoblade and Fire Emblem. That man is BIASED lol.
@@ShallBePurified I find it funny that you could easily just replace Xenoblade's and Fire Emblem's characters with Mario characters, and Coney would be all over it and love it, saying how "creative and novel" it is. This is coming from someone who doesn't like Xenoblade or FE either, but I find it funny how Coney is so biased against anything that has a serious story and an anime art style.
I just watched a guy gather his whole family to watch this for movie night
Listen, I think ARMS is pretty good, but I GENUINELY ALMOST turned off my phone when he nearly put it above Ultimate
Man I can’t believe that coney has so much hate for rpgs that he even is shitting on Mario rpgs. It’s impressive.
Not that you check these comments but the Strikers v DKC introspective dialog was very touching and eloquent
As one of the many women viewers of Coney... I cringed at the thought of him choosing Animal Crossing over Mario Kart DS... being in the same age group I think he forgot the easily playable fact of share download and play without owning games the DS had so you could be in a group during free time in school and a chunk of the classroom is racing against one another.
Gotta say this ranking was way too affected by legacy and not the game itself
my thoughts exactly
Yeah, it's insane that BoTW didn't even make it more than 2 rounds.
Coney was a single decision away from melee vs ultimate, and I don’t know if he made the right or wrong one.
I can't be mad at Coney's opinions because I know if it were me making these choices, people would hate me more lmao
Every time I think I've developed immunity to coney baiting me I get proven wrong. How dare he say theres a reason we don't have a golden sun 2 when we have both a 2 and a fucking 3 and 2 is one of the best rpgs of all time. Oooh my bloods boiling and I'm giving him engagement just like he wanted. You win this round coney.
I love how whenever Coney ranks anything Nintendo, it usually just defaults to Mario
Yup. The hilarious part is some of the games he immediately counts out like Xenoblade and Fire Emblem would be at the top for him if they simply used the Mario IP instead. lmao
I'm a fan of Banjo Tooie, but I understand why people will prefer the first game over it for many reasons. That said, the seeding difference being THAT MUCH is wild. Like, come on it's not THAT bad lmao
This video genuinely hurt my very essence, my entire soul
Same but I can't stop watching because Coney takes is just content in and of itself
everyone talking about the bad takes, but i just love how beautifully he explains choosing his top game
to absolutely nobody’s surprise, coney likes mario👏👏👏
No way did bro say the Mario Party 8 boards are awful...
Coney should play some non-mario games
He regularly does tho, it's crazy how when Mario gets recognition people just assume it's basic or they haven't played other games to know, when Mario games are still recognised as being some of the most well designed games out there
@@Daft0Cean968 The thing is he gives some objectively bad or okay Mario games the pass over other objectively better games (Like Mario Party 1 over Super Metroid).
I don’t have an issue with the logic he uses from game to game. I’m lmao because of the inconsistency. He talks about novelty and “inventing a genre” and then says that arms beats Wii sports because it is an evolution of boxing. Like, that’s just the opposite of what you said earlier 😂
Happy to see sunshine getting some deserved love
its so great having a streamer i agree with almost 100 percent of the time
Absolutely livid over the wii sports vs arms decision
i have never met someone else with the same love for mario strikers as me, coney sees the vision and automatically that makes the list right
Bro never fails to disappoint 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Super Mario Bros. had no right making it that far
coney basicaly said strikers>mario>oot
2:37 W opinion, 8 was dope.
Edit: Bro he immediately followed that saying we never got Golden Sun 2 when there are 3 Golden Sun games smh
26:25
On the topic of the original DKC Vs. Super Mario 64, I pose a question:
Best water music?:
Aquatic Ambience or Jolly Roger Bay?
Funny thing is, we did get a golden sun 2.
No Sin & Punishment? No Punch-Out? No Kid Icarus No Custom Robo? No 1080? And what happened to Wave Race? And why did Star Fox only get Star Fox 1?
Update: Saw the livestream. Mario bias is all I'm saying (still missing half of what I said). Should've cut down on them or should've done 256.
The fact that there actually is a golden sun 2 and even a golden sun 3 and Coney was just utterly ignorant of that reality
Alright old man we get it.
So sad that nobody has really played the Oracles Zelda games. I didn't play Oracle of Seasons until a while after Breath of the Wild came out, but it immediately became my favorite Zelda game (in contention with Skyward Sword for sentimental reasons)
Uwufufu Aware...
Clearly nothing happened with this website before right.
Cant believe all of the pikmin games got eliminated
explain
Banjo tooie survives solely on it naming convention, it’s cute and memorable and incites predictions for the third game. If it was known as banjo 2: adventures of the whatver, it would likely be looked back on as a failed sequel
Uhhh what? Banjo-Tooie is fantastic. Please explain how the game is bad.
Him bonking Ocarina of Time out in the first round is hilarious. There’s bad takes, and then there’s OoT tying for 95th place in “best Nintendo games” lololol
Coney hit really close to home with the final round. I have a lot of good memories about that game and others. You can always play a single player game and have a great time, but multiplayer games like that make memories with people you can never replicate.
Coney if Pong was in this bracket (THE LEGACY!!!!!!!!!)
There really is *nothing* like Charged though.
It comes down to Donkey Kong Country and Mario strikers charged, two games basically no one would ever objectively say are the best games in the world. That's how you know it's Coney's list.
Also dude gets time out for agreeing with Coney about strikers, I just imagine that being IRL friends with Coney just occasionally gets you kicked out of his house because you were on a doubles team with Coney in ultimate and you won, but your pop off was better than his.
One of the greatest compilations of god awful takes i've ever seen.
Enjoyed it very much, thank you.
Watching him put Pokémon blue over golden sun made me realize I shouldn’t watch this video, for my health
Same bruh.
My lord, Coney in this video looking like he just escaped the attack of some sort of animal in a rainforest.
The uwufufu incident Aware
Explain.
explain
explain
@@BylethsBoba776 there was an incident on stream involving uwufufu on the night of May 17th, 2023. Please don’t free-scroll on uwufufu.
Not the ads! 😮
Seeing Bowser's Inside Story get outranked by Mario Party 8 made my eye involuntarily twitch
20:28 Here's the thing. Mario 64 revolutionized gaming and spawned a new genre back in the 90's, when gaming was still in its early days. BoTW revolutionized gaming and spawned a whole new genre of games in THE LATE 2010'S, WHEN GAMING WAS BASICALLY AT ITS PEAK!! Yeah, I rest my case.
Dude actually picked Mario Party 1 over Super Metroid.
It's happened. He's clinically insane.
Also where the hell was Mega Man X????
Why was that ending kinda beautiful? I've never even played Mario Strikers before and its got me emotional.
I'm glad Kirby's Adventure made it as far as it did even though it probably shouldn't have won against Galaxy
8:35 I honestly have no idea how people can live without experiencing Xenoblade Chronicles. like I honestly believe it is the best video game to exist. literally the PEAK of gaming. I believe that everyone should experience it. life changing video game.
I have chosen to believe that every Xenoblade detractor's opinion of the series is based solely on 2's cutscenes and one specific screenshot from 3.
21:32 Classic Coney the Capitalist valuing profits over a game's quality 💰 💰 💰
Coney values legacy until he doesn't
I can respect how personal this is for him
PLEASE coney make more videos similar to this
I just watched two videos in a row and I think they are maybe the only two videos Coney has ever talked about teaching old people wii sports. But the fact I just watched them back to back makes me feel like Coney just won't shut up about this wii sports thing.
lmao we got Golden Sun 2 and 3. 2 is widely considered the best one (I haven't played any aside the first few hours of the first (it's boring, and I'm an RPG guy)) but it's funny that you said that
Seeing him pick arms over wii sports physically hurt me
I actually really liked CONEY's last take for his "best" game. It's a bit different from mine, that being it was my first and I will always cherish it for setting me on this path but the idea of representing a time that will never be recovered is bitter sweet in the best way possible.
I'd love to see Coney do another one of these and pick which games he likes purely because he likes them NOW, regardless of legacy.
The fact he chose Strikers eliminated the greatest debate war in this whole video. We could have seen Melee vs Ultimate debate
Is this a legacy list or a coney list?
Ocarina of Time has over Super Mario Bros only a good literary excellently paced story, fleshed out cutscenes, a relatively decent large open world filled with fun puzzles, fun themed dungeon designs, and the most iconic soundtrack in all of video game history. But yeah its only a "good" game. Definitely not considered the GOAT or #1 in any video game list at all. Oh Wait, that's MOST of them. But sure put Mario through without any second thought.