Inactive Fuel Gauge Fix Astro/Safari

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • Fuel gauge is not functioning on a 1997 GMC Safari. In this video I troubleshoot the major causes. I test the fuel level sender, the connection to the instrument cluster, and show how a fuel level sender works. 4.3 Vortec. Helpful diagnostic procedures

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  • @OldSchoolNoe
    @OldSchoolNoe  2 роки тому +8

    5:43 The Fuel Sender Gauge Module of this type is only used on the 96 to 98 model. The wiring diagram changes for the later models.

    • @ClappaGlappa
      @ClappaGlappa 2 роки тому

      Do you happen to have the values needed for a '99? Sent our Astro to a local shop and they think it's the PCM but admitted they have no clue and won't diagnose past the PCM. All they've reported to us is that the PCM is receiving a signal. No tests past it to the fuel gauge or anything. Am considering bringing it home to self test. I have a multimeter and would be confident at least trying out this method or something similar.
      I guess our model year van goes from the sender to the PCM and then from the PCM to the Instrument panel/fuel gauge.
      Edit: I believe your other comment actually helps me if the '99 and '03 are the same.

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  2 роки тому +1

      @@ClappaGlappa For the '99, the fuel sender operates in the same scale (40 to 250 ohms). When the VCM receives the signal, the signal is modified to between (0 and 90 ohms). I have uploaded the wiring diagram of your model year to www.astrosafari.com/threads/inactive-fuel-gauge-overactive-oil-pressure-gauge.148021/#post-1598734
      Should be the latest post. The test shown in this video to check your fuel sender should be the same for the '99.

    • @ClappaGlappa
      @ClappaGlappa 2 роки тому +1

      @@OldSchoolNoe I super appreciate it. I'll have a peek at it when we bring it home and see how it tests.
      Edit: If I can't figure it out do I think I could just bypass the wiring with an aftermarket 30-250 ohm direct wire fuel gauge and avoid the PCM/VCM?

  • @dward4979
    @dward4979 2 місяці тому

    Absolutely amazing video and is literally taking a huge load off my shoulders of not knowing what is going on. I love how you explained all the electrical diagnosis procedures before pointing to the last possible issue. Thank you dearly my brother

  • @UncagetheSoul
    @UncagetheSoul Рік тому +1

    oh my god I'm so excited to go to a junkyard and pull one of these! I looked all over online and I can't find a new replacement. Thanks Noe!

  • @kat7rm
    @kat7rm Рік тому +1

    Great video... I've got the same symptoms on my 1997 Chevy Astro. Also i don't hear the pump when ignition key is turned to accessories position...
    I cleaned the connections at the module... Gas gauge works now. I may have burned out the fuel pump or have a bad relay 🤷‍♂️.
    Thanks for this information 👍👍

  • @lilripper_therapper
    @lilripper_therapper Рік тому +1

    ThaNK YOU so much for producing this and sharing. So guiding... So informative!!!

  • @sheerluckohms6509
    @sheerluckohms6509 2 роки тому

    Thank you Noe and everyone else for the insight..I have not had any problems like this with my 05 (yet) but am remaining vigilant for any signs of a problem. BTW I dislike dropping tanks so all the info on the pinouts will really help out a newbee like me.

  • @joelcordova6237
    @joelcordova6237 2 роки тому +1

    thanks so much friend, I am from gusdalajara in mexico I solved the problem thanks to you.

  • @dopeMike_
    @dopeMike_ 2 місяці тому

    Good info homey 🤙

  • @gustapi30
    @gustapi30 2 роки тому

    Thanks primo I have to check the video again one more time to check where you connected the red and black connectors to the components. I have the same issue the gas cluster stays in empty. I switched the gas pump and still have same issue.but definitely will check the circuit board.

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  2 роки тому +1

      What year is the van? I would verify that the fuel sender is working by doing the first test. It the needle stays on E, that means it could have a bad ground. Have you inspected all ground connections?

  • @alexandergomez9138
    @alexandergomez9138 Рік тому +1

    Hi buddy,,big cuestión !!! The gmc safari 2000 it’s the same are is in another place the module??? Tks

  • @Emis_Dad
    @Emis_Dad 7 місяців тому

    Good job man!
    😎👍

  • @veggiepowered
    @veggiepowered 2 роки тому +1

    I'am Your Newest Subscriber Great Videos I just Got A 1999 Astro Van

  • @danlemons6716
    @danlemons6716 2 роки тому

    Great job

  • @ryanhaapala7076
    @ryanhaapala7076 20 днів тому

    Very oddly, my 2000 Passenger van lost both the fuel and temp gauges at the same time. Would greatly appreciate some tips and I'd be willing to pay you.

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  20 днів тому

      have you had any work done recently?
      I would look at grounds G105, then G106, possibly G110. If you need to know the locations of these grounds check out this video
      ua-cam.com/video/BN4wL70HTHI/v-deo.html
      Look at scan tool data to see if the computer is reading engine temperature as it warms up. If it is, there could be an wiring issue between the computer and instrument cluster, or even the instrument cluster itself is defective.

    • @ryanhaapala7076
      @ryanhaapala7076 20 днів тому

      @@OldSchoolNoe I actually watched your grounds video and checked them. They are okay. A weird thing that happened is I blew a bunch of brake fuses, kept replacing them, and each time it blew, this would happen, but now it won’t blow anymore but the gauges don’t work. I’m sure I fried something lol

  • @jamalymall
    @jamalymall Рік тому

    Sweet

  • @hardtrooth1776
    @hardtrooth1776 10 місяців тому

    Hello Oldschool my oil cooling line popped out of the radiator and oil sprayed all over and my van stalled and won't start and the fuel gauge indicator pegs out to the 3 o'clock position , I'm sure oil has caused this my pump is a new Delphi I installed about two months ago and has run really great before the oil bath sprayed everywhere my fuse relay didn't get oil on or under the pins. What do you suggest?

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  10 місяців тому

      this sounds like a crank but no start situation.
      Go through the usual diagnosis.
      1. make sure no fuses are open
      2. verify that you have spark
      3. verify that you have adequate fuel pressure
      if those check out, that rules out a bad CKP sensor, bad CMP sensor, ignition & fuel system.
      I would check those 3 first, you'll need a spark tester tool, and a fuel pressure gauge.
      If oil sprayed under the hood, its possible that something shorted out.

    • @hardtrooth1776
      @hardtrooth1776 10 місяців тому

      @@OldSchoolNoe thank you so much for that advice , I have a fuel pressure tester I'm going to get the spark tester at harbor freight

    • @hardtrooth1776
      @hardtrooth1776 10 місяців тому

      @@OldSchoolNoe I will let you know how it goes after I do these tests

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  10 місяців тому

      @@hardtrooth1776 but did you take a look at the fuses? I would do that first before buying anything, make sure none are blown.

    • @hardtrooth1776
      @hardtrooth1776 10 місяців тому

      @@OldSchoolNoe I will check them in the morning

  • @ivancoley11
    @ivancoley11 2 роки тому

    6:37 gas gauge hesitation from the engine starter

  • @johnnypena1083
    @johnnypena1083 2 роки тому

    Where is the module on a 2003 ? Thanks

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  2 роки тому +1

      The wiring diagram that I found for the 2003 does not show a module. It shows that the fuel pump/sender assembly sends a signal directly to the PCM, then the PCM sends the fuel level signal to the instrument cluster.

    • @johnnypena1083
      @johnnypena1083 2 роки тому

      @@OldSchoolNoe I must have a problem between the two then. My pump and gauge work fine but sometimes it shoots down to empty or in between. I’m running off the odometer for now till I can figure it out. Thanks again.

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  2 роки тому +1

      @@johnnypena1083 The fuel gauge stays at 0 IF:
      "The PCM detects a malfunction in the fuel level sensor circuit."
      "The Instrument Cluster detects a loss of class 2 communications with the PCM."

    • @johnnypena1083
      @johnnypena1083 2 роки тому

      @@OldSchoolNoe what color wires should I test then. Thanks again.

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  2 роки тому

      @@johnnypena1083 I've uploaded the diagram at www.astrosafari.com/threads/inactive-fuel-gauge-overactive-oil-pressure-gauge.148021/#post-1598611 , have you tried the multimeter test shown at 1:49 ?

  • @ivancoley11
    @ivancoley11 2 роки тому +1

    6:19 gas gauge hesitation

    • @OldSchoolNoe
      @OldSchoolNoe  2 роки тому +1

      Since then I replaced the module with one that I found at the junkyard. It doesn't go "crazy" anymore.