Thanks for clearing that up and posting. Eberlestock is priced and promoted as too good of a manufacturer for them not to be 100% accurate in their descriptions. Most people know it can be buyer beware off some sites and with some manufactures, but you shouldn’t have to question the reliability and credibility of Eberlestock info. Good find and research. Thanks again.
I whole heartedly agree with you Ellbee. For a company charging about 250.00 a pack they should absolutely have their info on the company website and their vendors correct.
Thank you for running this to ground. This is exactly the reason that I haven’t bought one and I too have a “light speed” that I already have but is just a bit small for my purposes.
Yeah I came to the same conclusion with the Litespeed which I ran for about 3 years. Ultimately, I found it too heavy for EDC, too small for an overnight bag and a bit cumbersome to get into the main compartment. I really wanted something with a full flat lay or at least something that would allow my full access to the interior something like the MR Urban Assault, the Khard 30, or the Switch blade which I ultimately went with primarily for the price and volume.
Thankyou for this vid. It is so surprising that this detail has been so messed up because by all pictures this pack looks alot bigger that the bandit, but Bandit is ~850 C/I so 1050c/i would make it a twin brother.
Was looking to get this pack and watches review and realized it looked very similarly sized to my mystery ranch 2dap so i starting looking into it same as you. Thants for saving me some time
It was much harder to get to the bottom of this and sort out the actual size of this pack than it should have been. Even when I called Eberlestock….two different company reps two different answers
Can confirm, this pack is functionally the same as all of its competitors in the 24 - 27 liter range. I bought the Eberlestock Switchblade, Mystery Ranch 2-Day Assault, 5.11 Rush 12, Vertx Gamut 3.0 and First Tactical Half Day + backpacks and they're all basically the same in capacity, mostly just trading blows in terms of pocket layout and features.
Youre not wrong in a way. I mean when it comes down to it a pack consists of a main cavity and a suspensiyon system - each brand and model will have differnt pocket configurations, access deaign, and feature details and this just comes down to personal prefence and Price vs. value. I went with the SB because after carrying various clamshell Style packs for years, i wanted somthing that had more of a lay flat design like the MR packs and as much as i Love everything MR, i couldnt justify the Price at the time.
This came up for me recently looking at the halftrac. Seemed things were very here and there off comparing dealers or what's on the EBS site. Some dealers didn't even have current generation. So having already loved my HPG HR chest rig I took a chance on the Aston house backcountry and never looked back.
Good video. I was wondering about this, myself. It definitely looks a lot bigger than "1050". I'm definitely an Eberlestock fan.....but they need to get stuff like this right. I'm sure they have lost potential buyers for this backpack, listing it at "1050"....
I own alot of eberlestock and their listed cubic inches on their site is always smaller then it actually is by quite alot. I think it's a money thing somehow, i haven't figured it out yet.
I just grabbed me one, website says its a 30L pack at (1780 ci) but there’s not way this is a 30l pack. Thanks for the video, I’ll be returning the bag soon :/
@@BlackFlagSummitClub I’ve emailed them 2 days ago but still not reply (weekend), I’m curious as to how they will respond. I was initially assuming I bought an older version of the pack but I was wrong
@@HenryHHHz14 yeah, when I called the EBS customer service (the number is in my video) I was getting some different answers as well. But I can confirm that it is indeed a 1500c/I pack and the F5 SB and the SB is the same pack with the exception of the MOLLE and Loop panel.
@@BlackFlagSummitClub if you’re curious, this is the response it got … “Actually, there was nothing changed to the pack. Our initial measuring of the pack was just off, and we went through a number of our EDC and Mission packs and re-measured the volumes to be a more accurate depiction.”
The premise of the EDC is that your would always have the pack on you or within arms reach and allow you to have quick and easy access to your CCW. Adding a lock would kind of defeat the purpose of this packs design not to mention, even if the zipper was locked to prevent theft, they could just take your whole bag.
Thanks for clearing that up and posting. Eberlestock is priced and promoted as too good of a manufacturer for them not to be 100% accurate in their descriptions. Most people know it can be buyer beware off some sites and with some manufactures, but you shouldn’t have to question the reliability and credibility of Eberlestock info. Good find and research. Thanks again.
Glad you found it useful. 🙂
I whole heartedly agree with you Ellbee. For a company charging about 250.00 a pack they should absolutely have their info on the company website and their vendors correct.
Thank you for running this to ground. This is exactly the reason that I haven’t bought one and I too have a “light speed” that I already have but is just a bit small for my purposes.
Yeah I came to the same conclusion with the Litespeed which I ran for about 3 years. Ultimately, I found it too heavy for EDC, too small for an overnight bag and a bit cumbersome to get into the main compartment. I really wanted something with a full flat lay or at least something that would allow my full access to the interior something like the MR Urban Assault, the Khard 30, or the Switch blade which I ultimately went with primarily for the price and volume.
Thank you good man, I've spent months trying to figure this out and decide if I can use this backpack should I order it. Now it's clear.
Glad I could help! 🙂
I've been trying to figure this out for the past 2 days. Thanks. I was hoping it was what you said
Glad you found this video helpful in some way.
Super interesting as I’m standardizing on Eberlestock at the moment - subbed and following!
Thanks a bunch! I hope it was somewhat helpful :)
Thankyou for this vid. It is so surprising that this detail has been so messed up because by all pictures this pack looks alot bigger that the bandit, but Bandit is ~850 C/I so 1050c/i would make it a twin brother.
I’ve been looking at yeah man your spot on, I have a Tom Bihn and I’m like there is no way it’s that small lol… Appreciate you doing this video!
God bless you for making this video :)
Well done! Thanks for making this video
Thank you so much! I hope it was helpful in some way
Awesome info as this is one I am leaning towards for a new day pack for an upcoming trip.
Hope you found the info you were needing - I do a full review on the pack itself incase you wanted to check it out. Thank you for your support! 🙂
Quite the run around but at least it looks like your getting what you wanted all along. Looking forward to the loadout.
Nate
Yes im extremely Happy with the Switchblade! Its exactly what I was hoping for. 🙂
Was looking to get this pack and watches review and realized it looked very similarly sized to my mystery ranch 2dap so i starting looking into it same as you. Thants for saving me some time
It was much harder to get to the bottom of this and sort out the actual size of this pack than it should have been. Even when I called Eberlestock….two different company reps two different answers
Can confirm, this pack is functionally the same as all of its competitors in the 24 - 27 liter range. I bought the Eberlestock Switchblade, Mystery Ranch 2-Day Assault, 5.11 Rush 12, Vertx Gamut 3.0 and First Tactical Half Day + backpacks and they're all basically the same in capacity, mostly just trading blows in terms of pocket layout and features.
Youre not wrong in a way. I mean when it comes down to it a pack consists of a main cavity and a suspensiyon system - each brand and model will have differnt pocket configurations, access deaign, and feature details and this just comes down to personal prefence and Price vs. value. I went with the SB because after carrying various clamshell Style packs for years, i wanted somthing that had more of a lay flat design like the MR packs and as much as i Love everything MR, i couldnt justify the Price at the time.
This came up for me recently looking at the halftrac. Seemed things were very here and there off comparing dealers or what's on the EBS site. Some dealers didn't even have current generation. So having already loved my HPG HR chest rig I took a chance on the Aston house backcountry and never looked back.
Never go wrong with HPG!
Nate
Good video. I was wondering about this, myself. It definitely looks a lot bigger than "1050". I'm definitely an Eberlestock fan.....but they need to get stuff like this right. I'm sure they have lost potential buyers for this backpack, listing it at "1050"....
Dumb question, but what's the bottle in the thumbnail?
Google “Platatac Decor’ Flask”
I own alot of eberlestock and their listed cubic inches on their site is always smaller then it actually is by quite alot. I think it's a money thing somehow, i haven't figured it out yet.
This is my first EBS product and i found this descrepancy so wierd.
I just grabbed me one, website says its a 30L pack at (1780 ci) but there’s not way this is a 30l pack. Thanks for the video, I’ll be returning the bag soon :/
The retailer had it listed at 1500ci 24L which is also confusing
Right on! Yeah the discrepancies are worrisome - I called them and pointed this out to them but I guess it’s still not corrected?
@@BlackFlagSummitClub I’ve emailed them 2 days ago but still not reply (weekend), I’m curious as to how they will respond. I was initially assuming I bought an older version of the pack but I was wrong
@@HenryHHHz14 yeah, when I called the EBS customer service (the number is in my video) I was getting some different answers as well. But I can confirm that it is indeed a 1500c/I pack and the F5 SB and the SB is the same pack with the exception of the MOLLE and Loop panel.
@@BlackFlagSummitClub if you’re curious, this is the response it got … “Actually, there was nothing changed to the pack. Our initial measuring of the pack was just off, and we went through a number of our EDC and Mission packs and re-measured the volumes to be a more accurate depiction.”
Share a link to that tumbler please
Google “Platatac Decor’ Flask”
The Multicam cup but thanks on the bottles name too
@@MDR008 shoot! Sorry I missed that lol - it’s just a Yeti Hydro-dipped in MC
now they list it as 1,785 c.i!
The confusion continues…sigh* 🤦♂️
So, they made a bag that can carry firearms, but don’t make zippers that are lockable. Makes no sense.
The premise of the EDC is that your would always have the pack on you or within arms reach and allow you to have quick and easy access to your CCW. Adding a lock would kind of defeat the purpose of this packs design not to mention, even if the zipper was locked to prevent theft, they could just take your whole bag.
@@BlackFlagSummitClub having lockable doesn’t hurt at all as it does give options for the consumer